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Title: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: chang on February 23, 2018, 04:31:42 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43138926
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: Martip on February 25, 2018, 03:40:19 AM
Better work on his media stuff as hecwas crap again today.....really feels like we are trying to accommodate a big name.
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Post by: TheRam on February 25, 2018, 03:40:46 AM
I think his legs have gone.

Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: Martip on February 25, 2018, 03:43:02 AM
I think his legs have gone.
No think about it, utd fans were saying it 2 years ago....
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Post by: eyesalwaysblue on February 25, 2018, 01:17:16 PM
No think about it, utd fans were saying it 2 years ago....
They were, it's why he was fucked off,but we fell for it hook line and sinker.  In this dire team though he's one of a very few that can provide the odd moment of quality and the lack of pace dosen't stand out as it's more or less throughout the team. Even when we buy proper pace with Walcott the manager goes and shackles him with shithouse tactics last night...
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Post by: Ross on February 25, 2018, 02:43:25 PM
“Daddy...Dad...why did you keep passing the ball to Watford players?.....DAD???”
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Post by: BlueForYou on February 25, 2018, 08:26:43 PM
Rooney all the way for me -

2018-19: player/club captain/coach

2019: (player)Manager

Assistant: Arteta
Head Coach: Unsworth
Assistant Coach: Ebbrell
Traffic (Cone)Controller: Ferguson

Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: Shogun on February 25, 2018, 10:29:31 PM
I think he’s done pretty well overall, a lot better than I thought he would do.
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Post by: gizzblue on February 25, 2018, 10:42:26 PM
Had a mare yesterday couldn't do the simple passing stuff ...a wayward pass cost us the attack for the goal .
Midfield is his best position cos his legs have gone but there are plenty better than him in that position .
Bit gutted tbh. ..the west ham game was false hope.
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Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 25, 2018, 10:43:22 PM
Hate to think where we'd be without his goals this season.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: blargins on February 25, 2018, 11:18:37 PM
Rooney all the way for me -

2018-19: player/club captain/coach

2019: (player)Manager

Assistant: Arteta
Head Coach: Unsworth
Assistant Coach: Ebbrell
Traffic (Cone)Controller: Ferguson



Which team is this for?
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 25, 2018, 11:52:02 PM
Which team is this for?

I agree with Shogun that he's been better overall than I expected, but we've still overused him (and now you see the fatigue setting in which leads to more mistakes) and the kind of madness you see linked above is why I always wanted Everton to stay far, far away from him.  The hero/idol worship aspect just blinds people.  Who in their right mind would think his football intelligence would readily translate into ability to manage, without learning the ropes first?  The kind of people who think this wholly ordinary man (but very gifted footballer) is some kind of Football Jesus.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: BlueForYou on February 26, 2018, 01:08:38 AM
Which team? There's no answer to that!

No football Jesus: Jesus wasn't who he said he was, ie, no Son of God, God doesn't exist - created fake news

Rooney is who he says he is, ie, an Evertonian, once a blue always a blue with the pyjamas to prove it, the prodigal son - evolutionary evidence

Abraham, Moses, Jesus? Get a grip

Catterick, Kendall, Rooney - the wait is almost over......................... .......

Keep the faith, believers

Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: blargins on February 26, 2018, 01:32:14 AM
And yet we see world class players flop as managers. Can't remember the last world class player who successfully went on and became a world class or even successful manager.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 26, 2018, 01:37:16 AM
And yet we see world class players flop as managers. Can't remember the last world class player who successfully went on and became a world class or even successful manager.

The theory is it's much easier/more common for the mediocre player to succeed, because they had to work harder, think things through/find angles more.  Whereas the superstar naturally had so many gifts, it's hard to translate what came so naturally to them to players who aren't similarly transcendent.

Also, just numerically, the average Joe anonymous midfielder isn't going to be handed jobs or even interviews, will have to constantly prove himself and fight his way up the ladder (manager-wise).  Cream rising to the top, etc.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: gizzblue on February 26, 2018, 02:20:49 AM
And yet we see world class players flop as managers. Can't remember the last world class player who successfully went on and became a world class or even successful manager.
Zidane says hi 😅.

But define world class a bit more ....
Jurgen Klinsmen got America playing actual football (soccer)
Laurent Blanc. ..maybe ..
De boer won it all in Holland shite here.
Koeman good in Holland shite here .
Luis Enrique did well at Barca .

Sure there are a few more ,not that I think Rooney will ever manage us tbh.
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Post by: BlueForYou on February 26, 2018, 10:49:29 PM
World class player and manager?

Clue: Top of the Premier League

Answers on a postcard, please!
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Post by: Polledreng on February 26, 2018, 11:02:25 PM
Colin Todd Great fullback when he played for us. Did a great job at Randers FC . Not sure if that answer the question
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: BlueForYou on February 27, 2018, 12:42:10 AM
Great all round defender, Toddy

Man of the match every game at right back for us in 1978-79 - class
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 27, 2018, 01:46:16 AM
And yet we see world class players flop as managers. Can't remember the last world class player who successfully went on and became a world class or even successful manager.

The baldy feller who headbutted the Italian in the guts and got sent off did alright as did Brian Clough.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: blargins on February 27, 2018, 01:51:51 AM
The baldy feller who headbutted the Italian in the guts and got sent off did alright as did Brian Clough.

Yeah, he didn't do bad, doesn't happen often. WasBrian Clough world class?
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on February 27, 2018, 01:53:34 AM
Yeah, he didn't do bad, doesn't happen often. WasBrian Clough world class?
W'ed have him
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on February 27, 2018, 02:39:09 AM
World class player and manager?

Clue: Top of the Premier League

Answers on a postcard, please!
Pep world class player?
Best manager ever?
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 27, 2018, 03:32:47 AM
Yeah, he didn't do bad, doesn't happen often. WasBrian Clough world class?

Til his knee got clobbered. Would have scored hundreds for club and country. Best manager England didn't want.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: BlueForYou on February 27, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Clough would have been in England's 1966 World Cup squad if he hadn't suffered such a nasty injury, finished him - third best behind Greaves and Charlton

Pep, world class player? Member of Barcelona "dream team" under Cruyff, captained them for four years, nearly fifty caps for Spain and captained them to Olympic gold medal in 1992. Most of the Spanish midfielders since 2000 cite him as their playing idol

Best manager ever? He will be


Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: benny on February 27, 2018, 10:50:25 PM
Pep world class player?
Best manager ever?
             with all the money behind him
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 28, 2018, 08:54:03 AM
Clough would have been in England's 1966 World Cup squad if he hadn't suffered such a nasty injury, finished him - third best behind Greaves and Charlton

Pep, world class player? Member of Barcelona "dream team" under Cruyff, captained them for four years, nearly fifty caps for Spain and captained them to Olympic gold medal in 1992. Most of the Spanish midfielders since 2000 cite him as their playing idol

Best manager ever? He will be




Hurst wasn't bad either.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: BlueForYou on February 28, 2018, 10:16:56 PM
Hurst was, indeed, not bad - the history boy!

Drops Roger Hunt to 5th - kop that!
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: Toddacelli on March 01, 2018, 10:31:59 PM
We'll just have to see if The Strac eventually turns his hand to management...
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: BlueForYou on March 01, 2018, 11:02:45 PM
Simeone, world class player and manager
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: blue1948 on March 02, 2018, 12:41:49 AM
And yet we see world class players flop as managers. Can't remember the last world class player who successfully went on and became a world class or even successful manager.
I suppose Zidane wasn't world class or successful then
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: blargins on March 02, 2018, 12:46:57 AM
I suppose Zidane wasn't world class or successful then

Ok. That's one. Any more?

The trend tends to be world class players do not translate well into world class managers.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 02, 2018, 12:54:44 AM
I suppose Zidane wasn't world class or successful then
Wouldn't say Zidane is a great manager
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: Confucius on March 02, 2018, 02:42:46 AM
Beckenbaur. Dalglish, Kendall,
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: schleffera on March 03, 2018, 06:06:44 AM
Cruyff, Ancelotti, del bosque....
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: Optimistic Blue on March 03, 2018, 07:31:31 AM
Gianfranco Zola
Glenn Hoddle
Alan Shearer
Ronald Koeman
Paul Merson
Tony Adams
Diego Maradonna
Paul Gascoigne
Ole Gunner Solskjaer
Marco Van Basten
Roy Keane
Lother Mattus
Bobby Charlton
Bryan Robson
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney BBC this Saturday lunchtime.
Post by: gizzblue on March 03, 2018, 10:55:24 AM
Gianfranco Zola
Glenn Hoddle
Alan Shearer
Ronald Koeman
Paul Merson
Tony Adams
Diego Maradonna
Paul Gascoigne
Ole Gunner Solskjaer
Marco Van Basten
Roy Keane
Lother Mattus
Bobby Charlton
Bryan Robson
Quite a few world class players but mostly shit managers there tbh.