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Title: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Ravardo on March 06, 2018, 04:45:45 AM
Just found this,, theres a few comments on the link 

Everton's long-time chairman and even longer-time board member, Bill Kenwright, will leave his role as steward of the club later this month according to an Internet rumour.
The EvertonThat website claims that they have heard from "a reputable club source" that Kenwright will end his Chairmanship before the end of March.

The rumour also states that CEO Robert Elstone and director Jon Woods could follow suit, with the implication being that both will also leave the board and, in Elstone's case, be replaced as Chief Executive.

Thus far, the suggestions are uncorroborated but have spread quickly on social media.

https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/17-18/rumour-mill/36362.html
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Brownie20 on March 06, 2018, 04:54:17 AM
Just found this,, theres a few comments on the link 

Everton's long-time chairman and even longer-time board member, Bill Kenwright, will leave his role as steward of the club later this month according to an Internet rumour.
The EvertonThat website claims that they have heard from "a reputable club source" that Kenwright will end his Chairmanship before the end of March.

The rumour also states that CEO Robert Elstone and director Jon Woods could follow suit, with the implication being that both will also leave the board and, in Elstone's case, be replaced as Chief Executive.

Thus far, the suggestions are uncorroborated but have spread quickly on social media.

https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/17-18/rumour-mill/36362.html


Didn't someone say before that Bill would stay for two years after Moshiri came on board. That two years is now.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: pjk on March 06, 2018, 05:50:32 AM
If true? It's going to be really interesting to see if there will be any immediate shift in policy. Has Kenwright been holding us back? I think he's done quite well where Moshiri is concerned. The teething problems have been unreal recently though. :)
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Ramjam on March 06, 2018, 08:18:05 AM
Seats on the board possibly being made available for Usminov, he’d possibly even need a sofa.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: blue1948 on March 06, 2018, 10:06:53 AM
I have supported Bill in general ,mainly because he allegedly put his house on the line in buying the club ,a big undertaking .Having said that there is a time for everything and everyone ask Wenger !It gave me a thought reading this and the few comments ,after the way we have been in the last two years would we really like to have the man -who many on here think is already involved - putting even more into the club with the same gay abandon shown by Moshiri ? We could be even more of a laughing stock .This debacle has made me so wary ,they say money cannot bring you happiness .
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Escla on March 06, 2018, 12:05:55 PM
What would we do without “internet rumours”
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: dunkster on March 06, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
Was it also written that other board members would leave along with kenwright?
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Toddacelli on March 06, 2018, 01:40:32 PM
Some of the things we've heard about Kenwright, Moshiri and Usmanov manoeuvres have been mentioned in the same breath. If this is true - does it maybe give some credence to the rest of it?
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Cozzie on March 06, 2018, 01:51:28 PM
Didnt that fella on TEF who is really in the know and usually right say this would happen?
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Macca77 on March 06, 2018, 01:59:56 PM
Does this mean Moshiri is buying his remaining shares then?
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Waltzer on March 06, 2018, 02:00:12 PM

Some of the things we've heard about Kenwright, Moshiri and Usmanov manoeuvres have been mentioned in the same breath. If this is true - does it maybe give some credence to the rest of it?

Think the Usmanov talk is wishful thinking. If this was the long term objective why would we be borrowing money from the council and struggling to get our bit for the stadium, doesn’t make sense to me anyway.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: dunkster on March 06, 2018, 02:32:58 PM
Yeah I agree that is wishful thinking and there's gonna be a host of rumours pop up about that happening. Usmanov mayhem
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: dunkster on March 06, 2018, 02:48:25 PM
Would have seen to be make more sense him stepping down in couple of months at close of season??
I'm more interested in why the other two are leaving/being pushed at the same time?
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 06, 2018, 03:30:20 PM
Think the Usmanov talk is wishful thinking. If this was the long term objective why would we be borrowing money from the council and struggling to get our bit for the stadium, doesn’t make sense to me anyway.

Neither of those things about the stadium are anywhere near true.

We are neither "borrowing" from the council, nor do we have "our bit" to find?
Have you woke up in 2002 and think we're talking about the Kings Dock?
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: 74Blue on March 06, 2018, 06:48:45 PM
Think the Usmanov talk is wishful thinking. If this was the long term objective why would we be borrowing money from the council and struggling to get our bit for the stadium, doesn’t make sense to me anyway.
There's a reason why multi-billionaires are multi-billionaires. They very rarely chuck their own money around.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 06, 2018, 06:52:29 PM
Be careful what you wish for .
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 06:55:18 PM
I have supported Bill in general ,mainly because he allegedly put his house on the line in buying the club ,a big undertaking .Having said that there is a time for everything and everyone ask Wenger !It gave me a thought reading this and the few comments ,after the way we have been in the last two years would we really like to have the man -who many on here think is already involved - putting even more into the club with the same gay abandon shown by Moshiri ? We could be even more of a laughing stock .This debacle has made me so wary ,they say money cannot bring you happiness .


lol the first line gave me giggles.. you supported him cos he ALLEGEDLY put his house on the line when he bought Everton.

some good history here,

https://toffeeweb.com/club/business/chairmen/kenwright.php


i respected him for making us stable. but he is dodgy as fuck, he should have left a long time ago.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Waltzer on March 06, 2018, 07:35:20 PM
Neither of those things about the stadium are anywhere near true.

We are neither "borrowing" from the council, nor do we have "our bit" to find?
Have you woke up in 2002 and think we're talking about the Kings Dock?

This is taken from the echo:

'There is a blinkered perception amongst some that Liverpool City Council is paying for Everton’s proposed new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.
They’re not.
They’re borrowing money from a Central Government pot, which Everton will pay £6m-£7m interest on every year for 25 years, interest which goes back to the council.'
Mr Moshiri and Everton will be responsible for finding the rest of the money for the stadium which could cost up to £500m.

I didnt make it up im only reading what has already been said, from my understanding it reads that we are borrowing money from the Council or they're borrowing from a Central Government Pot' and were utilising that (280 million to be precise), either way without them as guarantor we dont get the funds.

Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 06, 2018, 07:42:00 PM
You're jumping to massive conclusions there.

The phrase "without them as a guarantor we don't get the funds" is based on zero evidence. This is the best financial vehicle available to us. That is not the same as this being the only financial vehicle available to us.

The central pot the council draws from is interest free and they charge us £6/7m a year for them facilitating it.

So. We are not borrowing from the council. They have facilitated a central government loan.
Nowhere has it ever been suggested that we are struggling to find the additional funds needed.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 06, 2018, 08:13:07 PM
Be careful what you wish for .

lolol
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Waltzer on March 06, 2018, 08:26:24 PM
You're jumping to massive conclusions there.

The phrase "without them as a guarantor we don't get the funds" is based on zero evidence. This is the best financial vehicle available to us. That is not the same as this being the only financial vehicle available to us.

The central pot the council draws from is interest free and they charge us £6/7m a year for them facilitating it.

So. We are not borrowing from the council. They have facilitated a central government loan.
Nowhere has it ever been suggested that we are struggling to find the additional funds needed.


Its semantics though, we are borrowing money to help fund the stadium, we are paying interest back on this loan. The point I was making is if Usmanov is behind all this why would we need to borrow any money from anyone, he could easily afford to pay for it outright, or set up a loan himself, similar to what Moshiri has done where we pay him back over x amount of years. And surely paying back a 0% loan over 25 years is better than paying back circa 130 million to the council over the same period?

And I did jump to conclusions about us struggling to afford it but Elstone did say:

Robert Elstone, the club’s chief executive, confirmed the funding target “has escalated significantly and has occupied much of our efforts of the past 12 months. The premium for the waterfront site, an ambitious capacity that we will test with more rigour, a design we can all be proud of and the simple but painful impact of inflation, have all contributed to an increased overall cost and a funding target which continues to grow.”

Why would it have occupied their minds for the last 12 months if we had one of the richest blokes on planet earth pulling the strings? It wouldn't, we'd just get it done, but thats my opinion anyway.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 06, 2018, 08:30:03 PM
Well, for s start, i don't buy into Usmanov having anything to do with the club.

Secondly, even the richest people on the earth tend not to just have half a billion dollars on the hip, just sloshing around a current account.
It's all assets and leveraging.

Every last penny used to make this stadium will be through finance and not just some blokes piggy bank. The same as all stadiums built in this country as far as i'm aware.
The finance model we have chosen is the one with the least amount of interest.

Damn right the escalating costs of the most expensive thing this club has ever bought (or will ever buy) should be occupying our CEO's mind 24/7.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 06, 2018, 08:53:11 PM
lolol

Pfft .
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Escla on March 06, 2018, 09:50:55 PM
Its semantics though, we are borrowing money to help fund the stadium, we are paying interest back on this loan. The point I was making is if Usmanov is behind all this why would we need to borrow any money from anyone, he could easily afford to pay for it outright, or set up a loan himself, similar to what Moshiri has done where we pay him back over x amount of years. And surely paying back a 0% loan over 25 years is better than paying back circa 130 million to the council over the same period?

And I did jump to conclusions about us struggling to afford it but Elstone did say:

Robert Elstone, the club’s chief executive, confirmed the funding target “has escalated significantly and has occupied much of our efforts of the past 12 months. The premium for the waterfront site, an ambitious capacity that we will test with more rigour, a design we can all be proud of and the simple but painful impact of inflation, have all contributed to an increased overall cost and a funding target which continues to grow.”

Why would it have occupied their minds for the last 12 months if we had one of the richest blokes on planet earth pulling the strings? It wouldn't, we'd just get it done, but thats my opinion anyway.

Forget about Usmanov, even if the wealthiest man in the world were behind this stadium he wouldn’t pay cash as you suggest Usmanov were able to do, name who you like, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, Amancio Ortega etc. They would raise the finance then let the company pay the interest.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Alanvideo on March 06, 2018, 10:14:21 PM
Forget about Usmanov, even if the wealthiest man in the world were behind this stadium he wouldn’t pay cash as you suggest Usmanov were able to do, name who you like, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, Amancio Ortega etc. They would raise the finance then let the company pay the interest.
........................yes that's how it works. Rich people and companies don't use their cash reserves. Always use someone else's money is the rule .
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: 74Blue on March 06, 2018, 11:36:05 PM
Its semantics though, we are borrowing money to help fund the stadium, we are paying interest back on this loan. The point I was making is if Usmanov is behind all this why would we need to borrow any money from anyone, he could easily afford to pay for it outright, or set up a loan himself, similar to what Moshiri has done where we pay him back over x amount of years. And surely paying back a 0% loan over 25 years is better than paying back circa 130 million to the council over the same period?

And I did jump to conclusions about us struggling to afford it but Elstone did say:

Robert Elstone, the club’s chief executive, confirmed the funding target “has escalated significantly and has occupied much of our efforts of the past 12 months. The premium for the waterfront site, an ambitious capacity that we will test with more rigour, a design we can all be proud of and the simple but painful impact of inflation, have all contributed to an increased overall cost and a funding target which continues to grow.”

Why would it have occupied their minds for the last 12 months if we had one of the richest blokes on planet earth pulling the strings? It wouldn't, we'd just get it done, but thats my opinion anyway.
In the unlikely event that a multi-billionaire like Usmanov decided to provide Everton with the funding to build a shiny new stadium, do you really believe that it would be interest free?
Whilst Usmanov may well be seriously wedged to the hilt, it wouldn't just be a case of him wandering into his local high street branch and withdrawing half a billion quid. Chances are, despite his enormous wealth, he hasn't actually got half a billion quid sat in the bank. His money will be either largely tied up in assets, or invested and earning a very healthy profit. Why would he just loan it to Everton interest free, whilst it is earning him a healthy profit invested?
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 07, 2018, 12:02:16 AM
the last page of this thread reminds me why i hate capitalism so much.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on March 07, 2018, 12:07:47 AM
Me perfect mix would be Kenwright with the Russians money
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Shogun on March 07, 2018, 12:11:41 AM
Be careful what you wish for .

This.

Imagine we go 20 years without a trophy or something.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: sam of the south on March 07, 2018, 12:11:56 AM
Me perfect mix would be Kenwright with the Russians money

Nah, he’d just plough it into an awful musical ;)
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on March 07, 2018, 12:30:12 AM
Nah, he’d just plough it into an awful musical ;)
Would be a better deal than most of the players we've bought lately...
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Simon Paul on March 07, 2018, 12:41:53 AM
Thought this was meant to be last month?
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Heisenberg on March 07, 2018, 12:42:32 AM
Seems like a good man but theres no room for sentiment in football. Been a terrible chairman and if it had not been for getting lucky with Moyes doing the business for us (wasn't we after gary megson at the time?) god knows where we'd be now. Been at the helm for our longest trophyless run as a club. Time to move on now
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Cereal Killer on March 07, 2018, 01:21:06 AM
Thought this was meant to be last month?

It'll be every month until it actually happens, and which point people can claim they're itk and I told you so
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: blue1948 on March 07, 2018, 01:35:58 AM
In the unlikely event that a multi-billionaire like Usmanov decided to provide Everton with the funding to build a shiny new stadium, do you really believe that it would be interest free?
Whilst Usmanov may well be seriously wedged to the hilt, it wouldn't just be a case of him wandering into his local high street branch and withdrawing half a billion quid. Chances are, despite his enormous wealth, he hasn't actually got half a billion quid sat in the bank. His money will be either largely tied up in assets, or invested and earning a very healthy profit. Why would he just loan it to Everton interest free, whilst it is earning him a healthy profit invested?
Didn't Chelsea get there money interest free and then he just wrote it off as a bad debt!
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: brap2 on March 07, 2018, 01:37:31 AM
Me perfect mix would be Kenwright with the Russians money

And someone to make business decisions for him like
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: benny on March 07, 2018, 01:40:17 AM
Be careful what you wish for .
               this ++++++++++
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on March 07, 2018, 01:41:16 AM
And someone to make business decisions for him like
Probably move Sam upstairs,he's shrewd as fuck..
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 07, 2018, 02:18:18 AM
Didn't Chelsea get there money interest free and then he just wrote it off as a bad debt!

We've just received £150m under a very similar looking deal.

But bricks and mortar is different.
Chelsea's egg slicer will be leveraged against the club.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Simon Paul on March 07, 2018, 02:25:25 AM
Didn't Chelsea get there money interest free and then he just wrote it off as a bad debt!
No. Most of it via a private share issue

He will get his money back when he sells the club.

Edit : as was City's
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: phillyt on March 07, 2018, 03:16:49 AM
I see the happy clapping “be careful what you wish for” brigade are poking heads above the parapet here.

The man has overseen the least successful period in our clubs history. He has taken the club to a point we’re we had to sell a fringe player to relay the pitch. He got into a position where phil green basically controlled our club. He let his ego fuck up the chance to have a stadium in the kings dock which we would have been in almost ten years with all that lovely extra revenue. He tried desperately to rip this club from the city of Liverpool.

He has basically bought a company in a readonable position, ran it to a point were extinction was a real fear then (and fair play to him for this) sold it for a ridiculous profit. He got lucky because of the TV deals not his own corporate ability. Our fans have let this buffoon get away with murder, actively supported him even, yet call moshiri a fraud because he hasn’t built the stadium yet.
The day he goes I will be happy and excited for the future.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Heisenberg on March 07, 2018, 03:35:05 AM
I see the happy clapping “be careful what you wish for” brigade are poking heads above the parapet here.

The man has overseen the least successful period in our clubs history. He has taken the club to a point we’re we had to sell a fringe player to relay the pitch. He got into a position where phil green basically controlled our club. He let his ego fuck up the chance to have a stadium in the kings dock which we would have been in almost ten years with all that lovely extra revenue. He tried desperately to rip this club from the city of Liverpool.

He has basically bought a company in a readonable position, ran it to a point were extinction was a real fear then (and fair play to him for this) sold it for a ridiculous profit. He got lucky because of the TV deals not his own corporate ability. Our fans have let this buffoon get away with murder, actively supported him even, yet call moshiri a fraud because he hasn’t built the stadium yet.
The day he goes I will be happy and excited for the future.

I always forget about kirby. That would have been the death of everton that
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 07, 2018, 08:40:56 PM
This.

Imagine we go 20 years without a trophy or something.

I wish I had more confidence in our current set up . For all peoples hopes that we are going to spend our way back to the big time we are not far off a fucking disaster if it goes wrong .
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Toddacelli on March 07, 2018, 10:24:57 PM
Probably shove Sam down some stairs if he's shrewd as fuck..

Fixed
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on March 08, 2018, 01:18:37 AM
Fixed
If only Evertons problems stopped at Sam..
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: gizzblue on March 08, 2018, 01:24:41 AM
If only Evertons problems stopped at Sam..
If the invisible wall that stops us attacking goes with him it would be a start .
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on March 08, 2018, 02:05:43 AM
If the invisible wall that stops us attacking goes with him it would be a start .
I hate the fact we were that desperate as to call him in but the last wanker made it a given, can't stand the cunt but he didn't blow the shit load of cash on shite either.  It all depends on what happens after him, will Moshiri go the whole hog and clear the shit out that is stinking the place out?   that is Manager,coaching,scouting and playing, or just pay Sam off and take another stool on...we'll see.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Macca77 on March 13, 2018, 05:45:39 PM
Few reports on other forums now saying Elstone will be leaving to take up the role of CEO of the Rugby Super League
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Brownie20 on March 13, 2018, 05:55:06 PM
Few reports on other forums now saying Elstone will be leaving to take up the role of CEO of the Rugby Super League

That's been touted for a while
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Bally on March 13, 2018, 05:57:41 PM
Few reports on other forums now saying Elstone will be leaving to take up the role of CEO of the Rugby Super League
He's the keynote speaker at a North Liverpool regeneration meeting on Friday I think if anything is happening it will be after that.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Macca77 on March 13, 2018, 05:59:31 PM
He's the keynote speaker at a North Liverpool regeneration meeting on Friday I think if anything is happening it will be after that.

Yeah, he'll probably do a mic drop just after his speech, jump in a delta and fuck off
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Trowel on March 13, 2018, 06:15:48 PM
Here's the Elstone story:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/13/everton-ceo-robert-elstone-super-league-rugby
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Hawkandro on March 13, 2018, 06:46:58 PM
I look forward to Elstone trumpeting an underwhelming TV deal with Sky for the Super League in the next year or so then.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Cereal Killer on March 13, 2018, 08:16:59 PM
I'm sure Steve Walsh knows an ideal replacement.....  :Sick:
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Alanvideo on March 13, 2018, 10:57:30 PM
Here's the Elstone story:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/13/everton-ceo-robert-elstone-super-league-rugby
..............as I understand it ,his potential employers are the 12 breakaway clubs that comprise Super League. And he could double up as CEO of the entire Rugby league ? Couldn't that be a conflict of interest on occasions ,like the PL and the FA ?
Either way it's a step down from Everton ,maybe he's being eased out .
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on March 13, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
I look forward to Elstone trumpeting an underwhelming TV deal with Sky for the Super League in the next year or so then.

would still be better than the current deal
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Macca77 on March 14, 2018, 10:44:25 PM
https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC/status/973948784106442754
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 14, 2018, 11:13:17 PM
https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC/status/973948784106442754
Fighting to the death
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Ramjam on March 15, 2018, 05:50:27 AM
Fighting to the death
Pity the players won’t do the same
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 15, 2018, 05:06:30 PM
Google newsfeed has put up a story/expose from the sun saying we have taken 3 "payday style loans" since the £150m investment from Moshiri.
Not clicked on it to see what they're talking about, because, well, who would want the Sun in their browsers history?

But, if true, it's good that we have Kenwright around to sort this stuff. Seeing as how he has years of experience doing it for us.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Waltzer on March 15, 2018, 05:44:49 PM
https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC/status/973948784106442754

Am i missing something here or is this the Liverpool echo discrediting their own story?
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Alanvideo on March 15, 2018, 06:00:26 PM
Google newsfeed has put up a story/expose from the sun saying we have taken 3 "payday style loans" since the £150m investment from Moshiri.
Not clicked on it to see what they're talking about, because, well, who would want the Sun in their browsers history?

But, if true, it's good that we have Kenwright around to sort this stuff. Seeing as how he has years of experience doing it for us.
.................it says we have borrowed against future payments for Stones and Lukaku to improve cash flow. I guess a lot of businesses do this type of thing. We've got an accountant in charge in the shape of Farhad Moahiri ,I think he knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: cantoffee on March 15, 2018, 06:23:38 PM
.................it says we have borrowed against future payments for Stones and Lukaku to improve cash flow. I guess a lot of businesses do this type of thing. We've got an accountant in charge in the shape of Farhad Moahiri ,I think he knows what he's doing.
All clubs do this so it's not exactly news.
Title: Re: Kenwright to step down this month
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2018, 06:45:21 PM
Google newsfeed has put up a story/expose from the sun saying we have taken 3 "payday style loans" since the £150m investment from Moshiri.
Not clicked on it to see what they're talking about, because, well, who would want the Sun in their browsers history?

But, if true, it's good that we have Kenwright around to sort this stuff. Seeing as how he has years of experience doing it for us.

Wow, exposure of a common business practice, The Sun really have excelled their usual gutter standards journalism standards here.