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Title: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Everton News on April 18, 2018, 03:09:28 AM
Who will be Everton boss next season?

It was all going so well. A new owner, talk of a stadium move and the kind of spending spree that Evertonians had been dreaming of for years.

Source: Who will be Everton boss next season? (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2018/04/who-will-be-everton-boss-next-season/)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on April 19, 2018, 02:12:43 AM
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Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: boothill on April 19, 2018, 04:09:07 AM
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cheers brownie. enjoyed reading that
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Post by: Toffee1 on April 19, 2018, 04:13:47 AM
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Another good article from Brownie, as @boothill (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=807) posted, a good read.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on April 19, 2018, 04:15:00 AM
Thank you chaps
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on April 19, 2018, 06:24:42 AM
Interesting opinion there. The thing that irks me about Silva is the amount of moves he's had. I don't feel the loyalty or long termness.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on April 19, 2018, 06:55:30 AM
Just watched a Troy Deeney interview and he was positive about Marco Silva as well. He said the issue was Silva's actions towards our interest when Koeman was sacked which created a difficult relationship with the higher-ups at Watford and also a ridiculous amount of injuries. To be fair to Silva though, Watford's owners have shown they don't know the meaning of the word loyalty with the way they've treated managers in the last few years so I don't blame him much.

I have liked how Silva got Hull and Watford playing his way of football very quickly. I think that might be where he's got an advantage over Fonseca who may struggle to have an instant impact.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on April 19, 2018, 06:56:20 AM
Interesting opinion there. The thing that irks me about Silva is the amount of moves he's had. I don't feel the loyalty or long termness.

Fair enough but he's only ever quit one club.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on April 19, 2018, 08:44:45 AM
Fair enough but he's only ever quit one club.

Which is even worse if he's been made to leave.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Polledreng on April 19, 2018, 11:56:48 AM
Interesting opinion there. The thing that irks me about Silva is the amount of moves he's had. I don't feel the loyalty or long termness.
The only Thing that makes me wonder if Silva and Fonseca are the ones to go after
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 19, 2018, 01:53:34 PM
Only problem with silva is how much time will he get if all doesn't go well straight away?
Relegated one season then sacked half way through the next means there are question marks above his head. and should the team have a start like they've had this season then people are going to very quickly point to that fact.
Fonseca however has had great success recently including besting city in champions league. I feel even if he has a cagey start he would be afforded more time by board and fans.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 19, 2018, 02:00:20 PM
"We need to respect everybody, but we need to play our football. We never go into a game thinking: 'Let's wait back for the opponent to play and close our box.'

I Like that..from silva
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: AllyBlue14 on April 19, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
"We need to respect everybody, but we need to play our football. We never go into a game thinking: 'Let's wait back for the opponent to play and close our box.'

I Like that..from silva

But when you're conceding at least 2 goals a game and hoping to outgun opponents with DCL up front, it's not really the approach we needed.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on April 19, 2018, 03:02:16 PM
Kinda want to see how Silva would do know, reading that article.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on April 19, 2018, 03:27:58 PM
I think if we got Silva or Fonseca we'd be entertained more, but we'd also take some big beatings against the teams who have a similar attacking philosophy but better players, like Ciry, Spurs and Liverpool, that is until we got players who were more adept at playing that style. Im relatively pragmatic about this appointment and our chances of winning something arent going to exponentially increase overnight by appointing either, but at least the fans would get something back with free flowing, attacking football, which would be a refreshing change
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ross on April 19, 2018, 03:34:53 PM
Think if itís not Silva considering how much we pursued him only 5 months ago itís raises more questions about the current owners judgement and long term strategy.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on April 19, 2018, 03:47:54 PM
Interesting opinion there. The thing that irks me about Silva is the amount of moves he's had. I don't feel the loyalty or long termness.

A lot of his moves have been forced on him though, in his defence.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 19, 2018, 03:51:41 PM
Silva is the obvious choice, his last couple of months at Watford should be ignored, his head was turned by us, he wanted to come here, could he handle the pressure though, that's the biggest question.

Fonseca has won everything with Shakhtar, but its a very poor league, reminds me of the Scottish Prem, one good team and the rest very average.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 19, 2018, 04:11:54 PM
Think if itís not Silva considering how much we pursued him only 5 months ago itís raises more questions about the current owners judgement and long term strategy.

Potentially.

It may also be that he was the best option sending signals he would be willing to come at the time.
Now (because it's the end of the season) better options have become available?

I think it's a little bit of both to be honest.
Koeman would likely have got similar results to Unsworth (and then Allardyce to be honest). So the board were definitely knee-jerk and casting about a bit back then.
But that doesn't mean that they haven't now taken a breath and decided on a better course of action.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: BlueMaquis on April 19, 2018, 04:12:41 PM
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Silva is known as an obsessive hands on coach who before games does walkthroughs of how he wants his players to position themselves during different phases of play. He had both Hull and Watford working meticulously on different elements of the games such as throw ins or corners in an effort to be fully prepared for each game. His training sessions are supposed to be very intense with a lot of work with some fearing he overworks the players to get things exactly how he wants them. There are stories of him using hotel conference rooms as mini pitches to work on the team shape with his players whilst on away trips

This is exactly what we've lacked with the last couple of managers. And Martinez just told the players to go out there and "express themselves".

Our squad would definitely benefit from this kind of guidance.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cassius on April 19, 2018, 05:04:33 PM
Silva is the obvious choice, his last couple of months at Watford should be ignored, his head was turned by us, he wanted to come here, could he handle the pressure though, that's the biggest question.

Fonseca has won everything with Shakhtar, but its a very poor league, reminds me of the Scottish Prem, one good team and the rest very average.



Fonseca has also produced results in the Champions League for Shakhtar, which gives him extra kudos. Plus, he's sexy as fuck, which is important in any manager.

My only concern is that he's moved about a bit - managed 9 teams in 11 years I think, although I believe some were short-term positions.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on April 19, 2018, 05:04:35 PM

Fonseca has won everything with Shakhtar, but its a very poor league, reminds me of the Scottish Prem, one good team and the rest very average.


Granted, but I think thats a little harsh on him. He also got out of a CL group that included Napoli, Man Ciry and Feyenord in it, beating City in the process and only lost out to Rome on away goals rule, I cant remember too many Scottish teams that have done that? He also won the cup with Braga and if goals scored are a sign of entertainment since 2012 his teams have played 252 games scoring 449 goals and he hasnt always managed the best club in a poor league.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 19, 2018, 05:06:57 PM
Fonseca has also produced results in the Champions League for Shakhtar, which gives him extra kudos. Plus, he's sexy as fuck, which is important in any manager.

My only concern is that he's moved about a bit - managed 9 teams in 11 years I think, although I believe some were short-term positions.

He's an absolute dream boat, there will be plenty of slippy seats at Goodison if he gets the job.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 19, 2018, 05:11:52 PM
Granted, but I think thats a little harsh on him. He also got out of a CL group that included Napoli, Man Ciry and Feyenord in it, beating City in the process and only lost out to Rome on away goals rule, I cant remember too many Scottish teams that have done that? He also won the cup with Braga and if goals scored are a sign of entertainment since 2012 his teams have played 252 games scoring 449 goals and he hasnt always managed the best club in a poor league.

This doesn't matter though, I think we've now established that the only thing that matters is that he's sexy, he rocked the fuck out of that Zoro outfit as well.

Ticks all the boxes for me.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on April 19, 2018, 05:28:21 PM
A lot of his moves have been forced on him though, in his defence.

Not sure that's a defence to be honest.

He'd certainly be an upgrade on what we have though. And to be fair, we've nearly had as many managers the past couple of years as he's moved around since becoming a manager himself.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 19, 2018, 05:37:04 PM
I'm completely fine with him as a fallback to Fonseca.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 19, 2018, 05:56:43 PM
Click bait from the echo again

https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC/status/986891936295473154
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ross on April 19, 2018, 05:57:09 PM
Potentially.

It may also be that he was the best option sending signals he would be willing to come at the time.
Now (because it's the end of the season) better options have become available?

I think it's a little bit of both to be honest.
Koeman would likely have got similar results to Unsworth (and then Allardyce to be honest). So the board were definitely knee-jerk and casting about a bit back then.
But that doesn't mean that they haven't now taken a breath and decided on a better course of action.

I donít see how you can go from sacking Koeman and saying the next manager coming in is the one you want to be here for the next five years at least, then going all out very publicly for Silva, offering numerous record breaking compensation packages to Watford and top tier managerial wages to Silva, to him getting the boot 10 games later and us arriving here 5 months down the line and itís all changed though really if Allardyce gets the bullet.

Weíve shown our intent with the massive money we tried to tempt him and Watford with, he was the man Moshiri clearly wanted to lead us forward. Throwing your 5 year strategy out that was based around a new manager five months down the line would be the essence of knee jerking, again.

I just canít see how it cant be Silva all of a sudden to be honest Mick. Itís not like Guardiola or Mourinho will be coming in, a surefire hit manager. Whoever it is will be a punt and if Silva was worthy of gambling £15m compensation on in November howís that suddenly change now, especially as heís unemployed and has no attachments now.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 19, 2018, 06:43:53 PM
I donít see how you can go from sacking Koeman and saying the next manager coming in is the one you want to be here for the next five years at least, then going all out very publicly for Silva, offering numerous record breaking compensation packages to Watford and top tier managerial wages to Silva, to him getting the boot 10 games later and us arriving here 5 months down the line and itís all changed though really if Allardyce gets the bullet.

Weíve shown our intent with the massive money we tried to tempt him and Watford with, he was the man Moshiri clearly wanted to lead us forward. Throwing your 5 year strategy out that was based around a new manager five months down the line would be the essence of knee jerking, again.

I just canít see how it cant be Silva all of a sudden to be honest Mick. Itís not like Guardiola or Mourinho will be coming in, a surefire hit manager. Whoever it is will be a punt and if Silva was worthy of gambling £15m compensation on in November howís that suddenly change now, especially as heís unemployed and has no attachments now.

You can't see it because you have developed a bit of a blind spot when it comes to Moshiri.

Maybe Moshiri didn't want a short-term appointment and the only manager with the credentials to take us forward *that seemed to be available at that time* was Silva.
As that didn't pan out and no other manager on our list was available we went for a proper plan B - an 18 month contract for someone who, 100%, wouldn't see us dragged into a real relegation fight.

Now its the summer and when we have gone back to our list to see if Silva is still the only available manager it has come to our attention that there are better names *that were not open to overtures mid-season* are now batting their eyelids at Moshiris wallet.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ross on April 19, 2018, 07:05:22 PM
You can't see it because you have developed a bit of a blind spot when it comes to Moshiri.

Maybe Moshiri didn't want a short-term appointment and the only manager with the credentials to take us forward *that seemed to be available at that time* was Silva.
As that didn't pan out and no other manager on our list was available we went for a proper plan B - an 18 month contract for someone who, 100%, wouldn't see us dragged into a real relegation fight.

Now its the summer and when we have gone back to our list to see if Silva is still the only available manager it has come to our attention that there are better names *that were not open to overtures mid-season* are now batting their eyelids at Moshiris wallet.

If Moshiri was doing things right instead of having a touch of the Tony Fernandez about him theyíd be no need to criticise him.

Thereís nothing wrong with having a plan and sticking to it, if it was deemed a good enough plan to sack Koeman and commit our future to 5 months ago it should be a good enough plan now. Circumstances havenít changed for the worse theyíve only got better since then. But chopping and changing on a whim like we have done since he took the reigns will only see us in more trouble.


 
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 19, 2018, 07:08:49 PM
If Moshiri was doing things right instead of having a touch of the Tony Fernandez about him theyíd be no need to criticise him.

Thereís nothing wrong with having a plan and sticking to it, if it was deemed a good enough plan to sack Koeman and commit our future to 5 months ago it should be a good enough plan now. Circumstances havenít changed for the worse theyíve only got better since then. But chopping and changing on a whim like we have done since he took the reigns will only see us in more trouble.


I'm not saying not to criticise Moshiri. Let's take him off the table for a bit and drill down to what i am, and others, are saying:

Fonseca was not available last Autumn. Silva indicated he was. We went after Silva
Fonseca has now indicated he is available and is a better option than Silva.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 19, 2018, 07:09:05 PM
If Moshiri was doing things right instead of having a touch of the Tony Fernandez about him theyíd be no need to criticise him.

Thereís nothing wrong with having a plan and sticking to it, if it was deemed a good enough plan to sack Koeman and commit our future to 5 months ago it should be a good enough plan now. Circumstances havenít changed for the worse theyíve only got better since then. But chopping and changing on a whim like we have done since he took the reigns will only see us in more trouble.


 

*sigh*
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 19, 2018, 07:32:29 PM
Also had no idea this was Brownie the first article I read on this side (the PSV/Brands one), damned good insight and writing ability.  Really fortunate to have him educating young brains!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on April 19, 2018, 07:37:47 PM
Unai Emery linked with the Real Sociedad job today.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 19, 2018, 10:11:45 PM
So looking on newsnow. Odds slashed on fonseca becoming our manager whilst a link below that quoting fonseca as in negotiations to renew his contract with shaktar
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on April 19, 2018, 10:56:16 PM
Also had no idea this was Brownie the first article I read on this side (the PSV/Brands one), damned good insight and writing ability.  Really fortunate to have him educating young brains!

As much as I'd love to take credit for that it was not mine.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 20, 2018, 04:01:48 AM
Few reports now over fonsecas quotes appearing on their club website. Basically  he says there's no set time or date set but talks are underway on a new contract.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on April 20, 2018, 03:46:30 PM
Few reports now over fonsecas quotes appearing on their club website. Basically  he says there's no set time or date set but talks are underway on a new contract.

I've heard that Fonseca, Silva, Eddie Howe and Arteta are on our list.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on April 20, 2018, 04:05:02 PM
I've heard that Fonseca, Silva, Eddie Howe and Arteta are on our list.

Probably add Wenger to that now hes said hes leaving Arsenal
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on April 20, 2018, 04:06:21 PM
Fonseca to Arsenal then?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 20, 2018, 04:06:49 PM
Probably add Wenger to that now hes said hes leaving Arsenal

I worry that it may be a bit more likely that Fonseca is on Arsenals list.

Hopefully they go all out for Simeone.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on April 20, 2018, 04:09:32 PM
Funnily enough, Wenger was another name I had been told about.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 20, 2018, 04:11:41 PM
Wenger can fuck raaaaaaar off
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 20, 2018, 04:12:14 PM
Ancelotti to Arsenal
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on April 20, 2018, 04:20:00 PM
Wenger ainít leaving Arsenal.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on April 20, 2018, 04:22:07 PM
Wenger ain’t leaving Arsenal.

He announced it this morning.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ross on April 20, 2018, 04:22:42 PM
Wenger ainít leaving Arsenal.

Somebody should tell the Guardian.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Gary1878 on April 20, 2018, 04:23:51 PM
I would like to see Eddie Howe given a go. What he has done at Bournemouth is pretty remarkable and is young (only 40!), hungry for success, plays good football and comes across as very level headed. Not to mention he is an Everton fan.

We need to now build on the future, and this is someone who we can all really get behind.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 20, 2018, 04:24:41 PM
Allardyce 40/1 to be next Arsenal manager
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on April 20, 2018, 04:26:28 PM
Well fuck me.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on April 20, 2018, 04:26:43 PM
Allardyce 40/1 to be next Arsenal manager

Arsenal Fan TV would be an even funnier watch if that happened.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on April 20, 2018, 04:27:13 PM
Allardyce 40/1 to be next Arsenal manager
Lol your killing me🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 20, 2018, 04:29:32 PM
He's been told he's gonna be replaced, that's why he's announced he's stepping down, so it looks like it was his decision, when in reality he wasn't intending to step down at all, stubborn old fart he is.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on April 20, 2018, 04:31:46 PM
I would like to see Eddie Howe given a go. What he has done at Bournemouth is pretty remarkable and is young (only 40!), hungry for success, plays good football and comes across as very level headed. Not to mention he is an Everton fan.

We need to now build on the future, and this is someone who we can all really get behind.

Flopped big time at Burnley though.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: everton1952 on April 20, 2018, 08:44:32 PM
Ranieri. Eddie Howe would be destroyed by the unrealistic expectations held by many fans at Everton. We might have reached the level of a crap club but Bournemouth we are not.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 20, 2018, 08:48:29 PM
Ranieri. Eddie Howe would be destroyed by the unrealistic expectations held by many fans at Everton. We might have reached the level of a crap club but Bournemouth we are not.

So we're going full Leicester?

Someone get on the blower to Wes Morgan
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 20, 2018, 09:35:18 PM
I don't mind some teething problems next year. Whoever's next will need patience from board and fans. We can't keep sacking managers every year. As long as there's progress shown. Bit of passion and desire brought back along with more pass and move footie. More shots on target to excite the crowd then I'm all up for a more realistic top 8 or 9 finish.
There's a host of players right the way back to moyes days. When you have so much manager turnaround your gonna end up with a disjointed bunch.
Patience will be required no doubt about it. But if anyone is expecting a new manager to have us right up in amongst the top 6 next year they are delusional.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 20, 2018, 09:53:39 PM
I don't mind some teething problems next year. Whoever's next will need patience from board and fans. We can't keep sacking managers every year. As long as there's progress shown. Bit of passion and desire brought back along with more pass and move footie. More shots on target to excite the crowd then I'm all up for a more realistic top 8 or 9 finish.
There's a host of players right the way back to moyes days. When you have so much manager turnaround your gonna end up with a disjointed bunch.
Patience will be required no doubt about it. But if anyone is expecting a new manager to have us right up in amongst the top 6 next year they are delusional.

but is that not the war cry in here get any new manager in and we will be top 6 with this squad ?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 20, 2018, 10:13:57 PM
but is that not the war cry in here get any new manager in and we will be top 6 with this squad ?

 ::)

No, it's get rid of the current manager who is only capable of managing a team to 40 odd points and avoiding relegation and getting someone new in who is willing to try a more positive outlook without putting their own reputation and ego before the club
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 20, 2018, 10:49:51 PM
Someone who sees us as a project and what's to hang around long enough to lead his team out in the new stadium challenging the top six in a few years time. Someone who shows steady progress in our play, that is enough for fans to give him time.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Silas on April 20, 2018, 11:05:24 PM
I want Martinez but a good Martinez
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: gizzblue on April 20, 2018, 11:35:38 PM
Id take Ron Manager over this idiot in charge ....as long as we change it will signify the club actually wants better than forty odd points next year .

1)Fonseca

2)Eddie Howe

3)Silva
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 20, 2018, 11:36:27 PM
I remember us passing arsenal off the park that one day under Martinez. Shame he had some fatal flaws in his methods and personality
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: kramer0 on April 21, 2018, 12:58:18 AM
I'm surprised Gasperini's name hasn't come up at all. He's done a great job with Atalanta, even after losing some key players in the summer.

Plus, you figure the board should know who he is after his team stomped us twice in the Europa League.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Polledreng on April 21, 2018, 01:19:36 AM
I remember us passing arsenal off the park that one day under Martinez. Shame he had some fatal flaws in his methods and personality
our performance away to Wolfsburg was with in the words of my son ďthe Best Everton team and performanceĒ he had seen live.. He has been following us since the late 90 ties. Have to agree with him. We lost Macarthy that Night and the in a couple of weeks the team was Hard to regonize
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on April 26, 2018, 07:39:41 PM
I'm not sure what I think of the possibility of Van Gall coming here. It would appear that he's had a very good offer from a club recently. Arsenal and Everton, could well be in the frame.




https://twitter.com/FullTimeDEVILS/status/989454180531269632
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 26, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
I'm not sure what I think of the possibility of Van Gall coming here. It would appear that he's had a very good offer from a club recently. Arsenal and Everton, could well be in the frame.




https://twitter.com/FullTimeDEVILS/status/989454180531269632


Would be a nightmare.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 07:58:32 PM
Would be a nightmare.

yes but 90% of the member on here will be happy (anyone but Big Sam was that not the war cry)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 26, 2018, 08:03:57 PM
I'm not sure what I think of the possibility of Van Gall coming here. It would appear that he's had a very good offer from a club recently. Arsenal and Everton, could well be in the frame.




https://twitter.com/FullTimeDEVILS/status/989454180531269632



A quality manager who has won trophies at nearly every club he's managed, amazing record.

He's absolutely batshit crazy though
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 08:07:15 PM

A quality manager who has won trophies at nearly every club he's managed, amazing record.

He's absolutely batshit crazy though

yeah ok sure (anyone but Big Sam lol )
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 08:09:50 PM
I just hope Allardyce the crook fucks off. The most anti-Everton manager thatís ever walked the earth.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 26, 2018, 08:11:03 PM
yeah ok sure (anyone but Big Sam lol )

Did I say I want him here? No I didn't

But yes, he would be a huge improvement on Allardyce that's for sure, his record speaks for itself
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 08:12:31 PM
Has Allardyce ever won anything apart from the 2nd half against City?

He canít be compared to LVG lolol
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 08:18:13 PM
let me get this right

all the talk is we want a manager that plays attacking football will train young players up to the 1st team , but we are happy with  Louis Van Gaal the man that could not get Man u playing good football , nothing but the best yeah
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 08:18:53 PM
let me get this right

all the talk is we want a manager that plays attacking football will train young players up to the 1st team , but we are happy with  Louis Van Gaal the man that could not get Man u playing good football , nothing but the best yeah

Nobody actually wants him. You dopey prick.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 08:20:24 PM
Nobody actually wants him. You dopey prick.

Anyone but Big Sam was what you were saying you wanker
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: boothill on April 26, 2018, 08:21:51 PM
Has Allardyce ever won anything apart from the 2nd half against City?

He can't be compared to LVG lolol
And would have knocked the rs out of europe, dont forget that 1
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 08:34:05 PM
Anyone but Big Sam was what you were saying you wanker

Pretty sure I said I just hope he fucks off. You dopey prick.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 08:36:32 PM
Pretty sure I said I just hope he fucks off. You dopey prick.

yeah its going to be some great football now cant wait you wanker
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 08:37:35 PM
yeah its going to be some great football now cant wait you wanker

What the fuck is this dopey prick going on about lolol
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 08:38:16 PM
What the fuck is this dopey prick going on about lolol

what the fuck is this wanker going on about
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dangermouse on April 26, 2018, 08:40:11 PM
Has he been sacked yet?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 08:40:39 PM
This is going well.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 08:41:25 PM
This is going well.

cry for help
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 08:42:27 PM
Am I winning the second half?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 08:44:29 PM
Am I winning the second half?

the bell is ringing get back to class now your boring me
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 08:45:48 PM
the bell is ringing get back to class now your boring me

Iíll pass on my notes to you for spelling and grammar after class. Dopey prick.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 08:46:22 PM
I’ll pass on my notes to you for spelling and grammar after class. Dopey prick.

your boring me now fuck off
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 08:47:48 PM
your boring me now fuck off

Yur*
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 26, 2018, 08:48:22 PM
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Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 26, 2018, 08:48:33 PM
Fucking hell.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 08:48:44 PM
Yur*

Boring
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on April 26, 2018, 08:53:37 PM
The point of posting the info in the tweet, is to have a debate on whether he's good enough, or not good enough, for us. You lads carry on by all means. But if it degenerates, one of the mods is bound to close the thread. I didn't realise he'd not managed for 2 years though. I'm not sure if that makes him any less of a manager to go after though? :)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 26, 2018, 08:57:04 PM
Is van gaal a better manager than Allardyce?
Of course he is.

Do I want him here? No, I'd prefer a young, proactive manager.

If it was a straight choice between Allardyce and van gaal who would I pick?
Van gaal has won trophies all over Europe, Allardyce won league Two once I think

Van gaal all day long
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 09:00:24 PM
The point of posting the info in the tweet, is to have a debate on whether he's good enough, or not good enough, for us. You lads carry on by all means. But if it degenerates, one of the mods is bound to close the thread. I didn't realise he'd not managed for 2 years though. I'm not sure if that makes him any less of a manager to go after though? :)

sorry about that just a bit sick of that jackass

I really can't see the point in having LVG over Sam and for the money you would be talking about paying him

I was just getting the Point out there about anyone but Sam calls being a joke
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 26, 2018, 09:02:22 PM
Is van gaal a better manager than Allardyce?
Of course he is.

Do I want him here? No, I'd prefer a young, proactive manager.

If it was a straight choice between Allardyce and van gaal who would I pick?
Van gaal has won trophies all over Europe, Allardyce won league Two once I think

Van gaal all day long

Exactly
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 09:09:20 PM
Is van gaal a better manager than Allardyce?
Of course he is.

Do I want him here? No, I'd prefer a young, proactive manager.

If it was a straight choice between Allardyce and van gaal who would I pick?
Van gaal has won trophies all over Europe, Allardyce won league Two once I think

Van gaal all day long

jimmy you are one of the anyone but Sam camp so you can't now go back on it can you

with LVG all we would be doing is paying more for a manager to take us nowhere

and I don't really care about what he has done at the top teams in the country were it is a 2 horse race

all the shit that would come with him is not what we need

yes I will get shot down for it but I will stick with Sam over this clown all week long
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 26, 2018, 09:13:12 PM
jimmy you are one of the anyone but Sam camp so you can't now go back on it can you

with LVG all we would be doing is paying more for a manager to take us nowhere

and I don't really care about what he has done at the top teams in the country were it is a 2 horse race

all the shit that would come with him is not what we need

yes I will get shot down for it but I will stick with Sam over this clown all week long


Flawed argument there, especially as we're currently paying Allardyce 6 million quid to take us nowhere.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on April 26, 2018, 09:17:31 PM
jimmy you are one of the anyone but Sam camp so you can't now go back on it can you

with LVG all we would be doing is paying more for a manager to take us nowhere

and I don't really care about what he has done at the top teams in the country were it is a 2 horse race

all the shit that would come with him is not what we need

yes I will get shot down for it but I will stick with Sam over this clown all week long

What has Allardyce done in his career for you to think he'd be a better manager for us than someone like LVG?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 26, 2018, 09:57:07 PM
Bonkers mate.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 26, 2018, 09:58:52 PM
LVG, an upgrade over The Gravy Boat, for sure.

NOT the random Scouse alleycat.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 10:03:04 PM

Flawed argument there, especially as we're currently paying Allardyce 6 million quid to take us nowhere.


let not get to big for are boots just yet the money was to keep us up no matter what you think about it
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 10:06:58 PM
What has Allardyce done in his career for you to think he'd be a better manager for us than someone like LVG?

sorry read that wrong
were have all the calls for a young manager gone he is 66 years young and would be wanting more than are last manager was on
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on April 26, 2018, 10:09:59 PM
I don't but is this your promised land LV fucking G

were have all the calls for a young manager gone he is 66 years young and would be wanting more than are last manager was on

Not one person has said the want him as Everton manager.

I don't want him myself, but it's him over Allardyce all day.

Let's hope it doesn't come down to that.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 26, 2018, 10:10:53 PM
I don't but is this your promised land LV fucking G

were have all the calls for a young manager gone he is 66 years young and would be wanting more than are last manager was on

What the fuck is wrong with you? People are saying they will have him over Allerdyce, thats all. No one is clambering for Gaal, people still want a young progressive manager. Fucking read what people are saying.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 10:12:06 PM
Not one person has said the want him as Everton manager.

I don't want him myself, but it's him over Allardyce all day.

Let's hope it doesn't come down to that.

I think you will find it falls under the anyone but Sam category
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 26, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
let not get to big for are boots just yet the money was to keep us up no matter what you think about it

We were never in danger of going down, no matter what you think about it
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 10:14:47 PM
What the fuck is wrong with you? People are saying they will have him over Allerdyce, thats all. No one is clambering for Gaal, people still want a young progressive manager. Fucking read what people are saying.

and the same ones saying they don't want LVG are the same ones saying anyone but Sam a few weeks ago well that was clearly the bullshit I called it to be then
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 10:16:09 PM
We were never in danger of going down, no matter what you think about it

yeah we were to good to go down shipping avg of 2.8 a game
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 26, 2018, 10:22:55 PM
yeah we were to good to go down shipping avg of 2.8 a game

Yes we were.

Oh and I'm firmly in the anyone but Sam gang, by anyone I mean a manager with ambition, not one who takes all the glory and thrives on just winning at home. Not one who blames players and staff when we lose, not one who slags fans off whenever possible, not one who is so arrogant, he gives himself 11 out of 10 on the survey, not one who claims finishing above West brom and Southampton is some sort of achievement, not one who compares our fan base to Newcastle and West Ham.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: milky71 on April 26, 2018, 10:23:11 PM
Roy Hodgson has ahd a good Season maybe worth a shout












Sits back rubbing hands with glee :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on April 26, 2018, 10:28:13 PM
Yes we were.

Oh and I'm firmly in the anyone but Sam gang, by anyone I mean a manager with ambition, not one who takes all the glory and thrives on just winning at home. Not one who blames players and staff when we lose, not one who slags fans off whenever possible, not one who is so arrogant, he gives himself 11 out of 10 on the survey, not one who claims finishing above West brom and Southampton is some sort of achievement, not one who compares our fan base to Newcastle and West Ham.

is that an oxymoron
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 26, 2018, 11:48:04 PM
I have a hunch we're gonna go for Silva. He's got prem experience and is ready to go. I also think the SA contract was 18 months but he was always looking at 6 with a larger pay off. I don't think he'd have agreed to just 6 being the money loving cunt he is... He knows he's off but is just playing the deal out. I might be wrong like
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Danny on April 27, 2018, 01:02:56 AM
I'll stick my neck out and say i'd be happy with LVG being appointed.

None of you know if Fonseca is any good, Silva lost the dressing room the second he said he wanted to come to us and couldn't recover it.

Van Gaal has always brought through youth players through so that's a huge plus considering the talent we have, likes a passing game and has won trophies basically everywhere he's been.

Failing at Man United shouldn't be an issue considering some of you want Dyche who was sacked by a championship club.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on April 27, 2018, 01:26:22 AM
No way LVG Iíd rather have Wenger if weíre looking at old school managers
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 27, 2018, 02:10:46 AM
Lvg is very uninspiring and makes no sense for moshiri who seemed hell vent in attracting a new younger manager just a few short months ago
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on April 27, 2018, 05:09:45 AM
Our next manager has to be younger than Wenger and LVG with fresh ideas as the game has progressed, those two have been fantastic in their day but now we need the next Pep or Potch to ignite the new generation over four or five years. Time to move on, off with the old, on with the new.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 27, 2018, 05:23:09 AM
Quite agree. The game has changed. Tactics from the 80's and 90's like fat face uses have had there day. The Guardiolas, kloppe's  and pochettino's of the world can easily overcome old school methods. Get with the program.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Confucius on April 27, 2018, 12:46:11 PM
A few things. I am in the anyone but Sam camp. He is a corrupt fraud of a man. Should have a criminal record and for that alone he should be nowhere near our club.

Also he is useless. I would have Literally anyone but him in charge.

We pay our managers super high wages already. Top 10 worldwide apparently. So talk of the money we would spend on Van Gaal is stupid. We already spend that on Allardyce. Sam fucking Allardyce is one of the highest paid managers in the world because of us. Let that sink in.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 27, 2018, 02:45:37 PM
Gotta say. I've very underwhelmed by growing rumours of LVG. That guys football is nearly as bad as allardyce's. What happened to moshiri wanting a new fresh approach?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 27, 2018, 03:08:36 PM
Highly doubt weíd appoint LVG

Unless itís a 100% Brands call? LVG loves bringing youth through, at least from my memory he does, has an actual track record and would bring the dressing room in line. Can see the logic but hugely uninspiring move. Surely thereís young progressive managers out there wanting a slice of what weíre selling?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on April 28, 2018, 01:32:12 AM
I would rather us take a punt on someone like arteta than van gaal or any other old manager for that matter
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 28, 2018, 01:47:02 PM
Are we actually delusional to suggest Unai Emery? Would he be tempted by the wedge?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on April 28, 2018, 01:50:34 PM
Are we actually delusional to suggest Unai Emery? Would he be tempted by the wedge?

Depends if he gets the bullet at PSG.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 28, 2018, 02:25:31 PM
Depends if he gets the bullet at PSG.

He announced hes leaving PSG at the end of the season, he'll go back to Spain
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on April 29, 2018, 02:07:58 AM
Vincenzo Montella sacked by Sevilla  , after being sacked earlier this season by AC Milan. Guess the Sandro loan didn't help.
Wrong thread .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plowman2 on April 29, 2018, 02:33:07 AM
He announced hes leaving PSG at the end of the season, he'll go back to Spain
would imagine he wouldn't mind going back to Sevilla and it looks a bit coincidental that they sack Montella the same day he announces he's leaving PSG. Sending quite a strong message!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 30, 2018, 06:00:24 AM
Have we had a poll on this?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: oztoffee on April 30, 2018, 06:25:19 AM
We were never in danger of going down, no matter what you think about it
Why in God's name do you think that? We were in deep shit and going nowhere but down. It's that 'head in the sand' attitude that many on here blame the board for having. Get real FFS, were were shit and getting shitter by the week.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 30, 2018, 02:01:42 PM
Why in God's name do you think that? We were in deep shit and going nowhere but down. It's that 'head in the sand' attitude that many on here blame the board for having. Get real FFS, were were shit and getting shitter by the week.

Because its the truth, we were in 13th with a run of very winnable fixtures ahead, no head in the sand attitude at all.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on April 30, 2018, 02:33:19 PM
Not that I want LVG, but the last time he worked with Marcel Brands, the club they were employed by won their respective league competition.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 02:41:50 PM
LVG brand of football was horrible at United. Just another old, outdated tactician. Football has evolved.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 02:46:27 PM
How long after the last game has been played, would you expect moshiri to get rid of allardyce, IF that is indeed his plan?

How many days will go by before you think he is in fact staying?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on April 30, 2018, 02:50:10 PM
How long after the last game has been played, would you expect moshiri to get rid of allardyce, IF that is indeed his plan?

How many days will go by before you think he is in fact staying?

Good question. I'd be worried if there was no announcement or leak to the press by the day of the last game.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 02:51:57 PM
Anymore than a week and I'd fear the worst
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Thornton_19 on April 30, 2018, 02:53:36 PM
Anymore than a week and I'd fear the worst
I hope its at half time during the West Ham game. Alladyce goes in at HT and out emerges Fonseca.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on April 30, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
How long after the last game has been played, would you expect moshiri to get rid of allardyce, IF that is indeed his plan?

How many days will go by before you think he is in fact staying?

Not sure how it works re: months and stuff, but I expect it to drag on a very long, close to unbearable time, during which time we will sign wilshere, PVA and Chris Smalling on incredibly high wages.

After this time, we will then bafflingly sign a number of players for exorbitant fees who also play in those positions. Some of whom will be 29 years old or older, also on massive wages.

We will then sell players like Lookman, and maybe even Gana, without looking for replacements, (instead, signing Luke Shaw on massive, eye watering wages at the last minute, who is paraded on the pitch looking like he’s just come from the Toby Carvery - he does not play a game until Christmas, at which time PVA has been drastically injured, Baines out since early November. Luke plays two games to mixed reviews, before he is dropped for Cuco Martina.)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 02:58:33 PM
Not sure how it works re: months and stuff, but I expect it to drag on a very long, close to unbearable time, during which time we will sign wilshere, PVA and Chris Smalling on incredibly high wages.

After this time, we will then bafflingly sign a number of players for exorbitant fees who also play in those positions. Some of whom will be 29 years old or older, also on massive wages.

We will then sell players like Lookman, and maybe even Gana, without looking for replacements, (instead, signing Luke Shaw on massive, eye watering wages at the last minute, who is paraded on the pitch looking like heís just come from the Tony Carvery - he does not play a game until Christmas, at which time PVA has been drastically injured, Baines out since early November. Luke plays two games to mixed reviews, before he is dropped for Cuco Martina.)

Do you believe that Brands will sanction all that? Or are you not hopeful he will be here anytime soon?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on April 30, 2018, 03:18:19 PM
Do you believe that Brands will sanction all that? Or are you not hopeful he will be here anytime soon?

Not particularly hopeful tbh, but in general Iím just playing. That looks like an allardyce/walsh summer to me ^
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 03:42:15 PM
Oh I agree that if Walsh and allardyce are still in charge I'm burying my head under a pillow for the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on April 30, 2018, 03:45:29 PM
How long after the last game has been played, would you expect moshiri to get rid of allardyce, IF that is indeed his plan?

How many days will go by before you think he is in fact staying?

In a World Cup year and with the reduced transfer window anything more than 24 hours is unacceptable.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 30, 2018, 03:49:24 PM
https://twitter.com/stevie1919/status/990700601595097091

Who is this guy?...ITK ?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 30, 2018, 03:49:57 PM
One would hope that a decision has already been made, so any announcement needed would be made as soon as the season is over.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 03:56:44 PM
I'll  jizz my pants if fonseca comes in.
I'm well aware that a select few will sharpen their pencils to quiz me why exactly a young manager with no premier league experience warrants such delirium, but I couldn't give a fuck.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on April 30, 2018, 04:01:21 PM
I'll  jizz my pants if fonseca comes in.
I'm well aware that a select few will sharpen their pencils to quiz me why exactly a young manager with no premier league experience warrants such delirium, but I couldn't give a fuck.

The only way a manager like Fonseca, will get Premier League experience is if he gets to manage here and why not us? Would be a breath of fresh air and hopefully, with Brands, will lead to better football and more enjoyment for us the fans.

Besides many of the managers with Premier League experience, do a pretty bad job.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 04:02:56 PM
In my opinion....

This guy is about to win his second league title in a row and I know I don't know the true quality with the Ukraine top flight. But motivating and guiding a team when the expectations are there is a trait within itself.
Secondly he did far more than was expected in the champions league in a very tough group. This included beating Manchester city.
I believe that will be enough to encourage more expensive/better signings to come here than we can hope to get under silva or houwe.
Thirdly he plays a system not totally unlike what we have been playing (from what I've read on that tactical analysis report) so hopefully it won't be too alien to the current squad.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 04:04:47 PM
The only way a manager like Fonseca, will get Premier League experience is if he gets to manage here and why not us? Would be a breath of fresh air and hopefully, with Brands, will lead to better football and more enjoyment for us the fans.

Besides many of the managers with Premier League experience, do a pretty bad job.

Said it a few days back. Fonseca going to Chelsea or arsenal would come with expectations of instant success. Here at Everton with an overwhelming desire by fans for him to take charge, he will be given time.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on April 30, 2018, 04:06:06 PM
https://twitter.com/stevie1919/status/990700601595097091

Who is this guy?...ITK ?

Iíve literally never seen him be correct.

Like, heís been saying stuff about kenwright being ďgoneĒ and Usmanov in for aboouuut 6 months.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 30, 2018, 04:08:27 PM
I’ve literally never seen him be correct.

Like, he’s been saying stuff about kenwright being “gone” and Usmanov in for aboouuut 6 months.
Thought as much, wishful thinking on my part.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on April 30, 2018, 04:10:09 PM
Fonseca is big pals with Guardiola isn't he and tries to play a hybrid style of Klopp's high pressing and Guardiola's possession-based flexibility. Not that all that means anything at all but straight from the off it sounds a hell of a lot sexier than Sam's seven at the back and one shot per game. 

As with Brands, there's too much chatter about him to not think there's an offer on the table should he want it.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on April 30, 2018, 04:11:14 PM
Said it a few days back. Fonseca going to Chelsea or arsenal would come with expectations of instant success. Here at Everton with an overwhelming desire by fans for him to take charge, he will be given time.

But you don't turn down Arsenal or Chelsea for Everton if both offers are on the table though.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 30, 2018, 04:13:29 PM
But you don't turn down Arsenal or Chelsea for Everton if both offers are on the table though.
I believe both Arsenal and Chelsea would be looking at a higher profile manager than Fonseca, don't think he has even been mentioned as a replacement for either has he?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on April 30, 2018, 04:15:14 PM
I believe both Arsenal and Chelsea would be looking at a higher profile manager than Fonseca, don't think he has even been mentioned as a replacement for either has he?

I agree entirely. I was just making the point that if a bigger club with higher expectations want him he's not going to turn them down for us just because it might mean more pressure.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 30, 2018, 04:24:09 PM
Allardyce . Moshiri will be happy with 7th and save himself any more compensation payments .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on April 30, 2018, 04:29:10 PM
Allardyce . Moshiri will be happy with 7th and save himself any more compensation payments .

He's been sanctioning £50m transfers, he's not going to let £6m prevent him from fulfilling his plan.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 04:31:37 PM
Bloke was willing to pay 12-15 million to but silva
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 04:33:03 PM
I agree entirely. I was just making the point that if a bigger club with higher expectations want him he's not going to turn them down for us just because it might mean more pressure.

No I never claim he would turn them down just that we are a better fit in my opinion.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 30, 2018, 04:43:29 PM
I won't believe any of the Fonseca rumours until he starts following Everton on his twitter and instagram
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 04:47:01 PM
I refuse to believe anything to be honest. All these itk claimed lvg was coming couple days ago.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on April 30, 2018, 04:49:20 PM
I'd just like a manager who wants to be here for a start. Or at least pretends to want to be here. The last two didn't give a shit and it's been obvious to everyone.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 04:59:44 PM
I'd just like a manager who wants to be here for a start. Or at least pretends to want to be here. The last two didn't give a shit and it's been obvious to everyone.

Not sure it works like that. There's little to no loyalty in the game. If a top manager comes here it will be down to wages and money to spend. And if they succeed they'll be targeted by a champions league club and gone in a flash.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on April 30, 2018, 05:06:08 PM
Not sure it works like that. There's little to no loyalty in the game. If a top manager comes here it will be down to wages and money to spend. And if they succeed they'll be targeted by a champions league club and gone in a flash.

Of course it does. Granted there are mercenaries in every profession but there is still professional pride. The gurning tramp across the park loves the project they are building there, he's not just there for the money. They give him the freedom to build the club around his vision.

We are an attractive proposition for an aspiring manager who wants the chance to mould a team around his own image, to implement his ideas and see if they work with money to back him. There's a plan in place to transition a historic club and move it into a state of the art stadium. It'd be an exciting time to manage here for the right person with the right motivation.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 30, 2018, 05:18:38 PM
He's been sanctioning £50m transfers, he's not going to let £6m prevent him from fulfilling his plan.

I would love to think that will be the case .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: oztoffee on April 30, 2018, 06:00:18 PM
Am I missing something here, or is Silva now out of the reckoning? We wanted him so badly that we approached him and basically got him fired. For what? So we can get another flavour of the month all excited?
I don't think we did ourselves any favours then and even fewer if the rest of the footballing world sees that we're now not interested. I'm not saying whether we are or we aren't, it's just that there is little if anything being touted on here on his behalf.

We seem to want both youth and experience but in my mind that's a fundamental dichotomy. Add that we want someone who's already been successful and then blend with the fact that we are probably not in the top echelons of the game (whatever you might think or hope) and the list of potential managers is pitifully short. This whole progression thing is not going to happen overnight, it'll take years, especially having to blend in new players -who we need badly - too.

Next season will, I think be a watershed. We can't have another flurry of managers and players coming in as previously. At some time, common sense must prevail and we go with what we've got at the time and build on it. Instant success is a dream, and if we have to put up with a couple of seasons of unexciting football, that's the price we have to pay. I mean which teams outside the top 5/6 play attractive football? None - they've all got their noses to the grindstone trying to survive, so we have to have a medium term plan to get out of the also-rans.
 A 3/4 year plan, well organised and funded will get results, but are the faithful prepared to wait? I hope so, otherwise we're lost and back with the strugglers from 7th down.
COYB
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on April 30, 2018, 06:09:19 PM
Silva has been rumoured to be taking the Benfica job for a few months now, but nothing has ever been announced.

Does seem weird we haven't attempted to get Silva in, but I think this is endemic of the issues we have at the club; no long-term plan in place barring a few key words and phrases.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on April 30, 2018, 06:09:40 PM
I think Silva is nailed on for the job and it's only been legal matters which have prevented us from signing him sooner

Expect the sexy bastid to be unveiled on the 1st June at 11.08 am
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
The problem with silva as he went to get fired shortly afterwards. Relegated with one team, fired from the next.
It's a gamble
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on April 30, 2018, 06:16:37 PM
Silva has been rumoured to be taking the Benfica job for a few months now, but nothing has ever been announced.

Does seem weird we haven't attempted to get Silva in, but I think this is endemic of the issues we have at the club; no long-term plan in place barring a few key words and phrases.

Itís not weird if a) other better options are now available b) we were put off a bit by the massive slump (if we just ignored that it would be a bit daft too).

Iíd assume heís still an option but if heís 5th choice say, then thatís not surprising either.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on April 30, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
The problem with silva as he went to get fired shortly afterwards. Relegated with one team, fired from the next.
It's a gamble

And his record is s**t too
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 30, 2018, 09:13:39 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/990948081679167488
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on April 30, 2018, 09:21:28 PM
refuse to believe it.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 30, 2018, 09:28:37 PM
Balague has little to no credibility
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on April 30, 2018, 09:28:47 PM
refuse to believe it.
...........didn't Ballague say this last week already ?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 30, 2018, 09:37:29 PM
Heís been linked with Arsenal since the Wenger announcement.

Iíd imagine Wengerís successor is already in place. A team of that size wouldnít head into the summer and go Ďletís see whoís available and if they might fancy ití. They got their man, hence letting Wenger go.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 30, 2018, 09:45:53 PM
:'(
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 30, 2018, 09:47:37 PM
Balague has little to no credibility

Correct
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on April 30, 2018, 09:47:45 PM
Interested for months only to be beaten to the punch at the last minute?

I could easily see this happening.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on April 30, 2018, 09:55:34 PM
Remember Ballague on sky sports news on deadline day just before Torres signed for Chelsea, he claimed that he had spoken to Torres earlier in the day and was told that there was no chance he would be leaving the shite, no matter how much Chelsea offered, shite fans need not worry, he was 100% certain that Torres would stay.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on April 30, 2018, 10:00:09 PM
...........didn't Ballague say this last week already ?

Oh My disbelief isnít based on like facts or rumours or anything susbstantial just pure hope.

it does sound very likely his agent used us to get some attention to his contract situation and to bring interest out of the woodwork.

But, as I say, refuse to believe it 😬
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: BlueMaquis on April 30, 2018, 10:06:57 PM
He's not just going to reject us just because he's on a bigger team's shortlist. Why wouldn't he wait until they decide on a new manager, and then go to us if it's not him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Free Agent on April 30, 2018, 10:10:32 PM
Ballague is about as reliable as The Esk
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on April 30, 2018, 10:43:15 PM
Oh well, (this is everton).....next
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 01, 2018, 12:22:25 AM
Guillem Ballague? Is that shameless self-publicist still trying desperately to sound relevant? Bellend.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 01, 2018, 12:43:54 AM
Balague's in the business of trying to getting subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions)rs to his lamentably bad youtube channel. Last week he was saying that Luis Enrique was getting the Arsenal job. If you look at the betting and what the Arsenal board said, the candidates for that job are much more established and high profile than Fonseca.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue1948 on May 01, 2018, 01:00:15 AM
The saddest thing is the reaction "why would a team as big as Arsenal go into the summer not knowing" -we should be that team ,granted we are not as big as them but we should be in that situation knowing what and who ,not this shambles if the press are to be believed .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 01, 2018, 01:14:33 AM
Balague's in the business of trying to getting subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions)rs to his lamentably bad youtube channel. Last week he was saying that Luis Enrique was getting the Arsenal job. If you look at the betting and what the Arsenal board said, the candidates for that job are much more established and high profile than Fonseca.

Yep, Enrique, Simeone, Alegri, Low and Ancelotti all head the betting, last time i looked Fonseca was 30/1.

Edit, hes into 16/1 now
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eugene on May 01, 2018, 01:28:24 AM
Not sure it works like that. There's little to no loyalty in the game. If a top manager comes here it will be down to wages and money to spend. And if they succeed they'll be targeted by a champions league club and gone in a flash.
Unless he brings the champions league to us, because I think we have the nucleus of a good team just no direction and thatís where he comes in
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 01, 2018, 02:45:35 AM
Unless he brings the champions league to us, because I think we have the nucleus of a good team just no direction and thatís where he comes in

That's true but I believe we are maybe 3 seasons away from challenging the top 4 if the manager does great things. If he was doing great things he's probably be poached before we get there.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on May 01, 2018, 02:54:56 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/990948081679167488

then little Ballbag should lump on at 16/1, Sky Bet has 15 managers ahead of Fonseca
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 01, 2018, 04:01:43 AM
Guillem Ballague? Is that shameless self-publicist still trying desperately to sound relevant? Bellend.

Ballague and Tim Vickery, are much the same for me - pass themselves off as experts and have made a good living from it, when most of the time they know as much as we do.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bogie on May 01, 2018, 04:29:46 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/990948081679167488

and its took him all weekend to come up with that
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2018, 02:02:13 PM
Porto coach Sergio Conceicao, 43, has been identified by Everton as a replacement for Allardyce if the 63-year-old leaves Goodison Park this summer (Times subscription required)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 09, 2018, 02:11:47 PM
Porto coach Sergio Conceicao, 43, has been identified by Everton as a replacement for Allardyce if the 63-year-old leaves Goodison Park this summer (Times subscription required)
Sergio has 23 years on him so thatís a positive to start with
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 09, 2018, 02:12:35 PM
Porto coach Sergio Conceicao, 43, has been identified by Everton as a replacement for Allardyce if the 63-year-old leaves Goodison Park this summer (Times subscription required)

Other reports today are that we will offer 8 million a year wages for Arsene Wenger.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2018/05/09/arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-offered-big-everton-deal/
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on May 09, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/993882392271220737
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on May 09, 2018, 02:14:57 PM
Other reports today are that we will offer 8 million a year wages for Arsene Wenger.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2018/05/09/arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-offered-big-everton-deal/

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/701334/Arsenal-news-Arsene-Wenger-drops-huge-claim-over-next-job-Koscielny-Everton
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 09, 2018, 02:14:57 PM
Other reports today are that we will offer 8 million a year wages for Arsene Wenger.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2018/05/09/arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-offered-big-everton-deal/
So thatís Walcott for sale to start with, didnít want him at Arsenal so why would he want him here?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2018, 02:18:57 PM
Goal
The daily star
Caught offside.

Come on lads. Let's talk about what's getting reported in the times.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 09, 2018, 02:51:18 PM
Goal
The daily star
Caught offside.


Come on lads. Let's talk about what's getting reported in the times.

Apparently Wenger story originated from the sun
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2018, 03:26:05 PM
Wenger who has openly admitted that he won't manage another premier league club
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 09, 2018, 03:35:08 PM
Wenger who has openly admitted that he won't manage another premier league club
Thank fuck for that now letís move on
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on May 10, 2018, 04:02:53 PM
Players expecting Silva.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 10, 2018, 04:12:35 PM
Players expecting Silva.

Where have you seen this?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on May 10, 2018, 04:15:22 PM
Where have you seen this?

BBC Gossip page
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 10, 2018, 04:20:14 PM
Players expecting Silva.
I think so myself, heís just been sitting patiently in the shadows waiting for the season to end. He hasnít accepted a new job offer which Iím sure there would have been since the Watford separation. I would think that a deal with Moshiri has been in place to accommodate Everton, Silva and BFS with the least amount of fuss after a season full of turmoil. Silva will have been watching and assessing the squad deciding who he wants to keep and who he wants sold. Fonseca has just been a smoke screen to deflect speculation and avoid a Watford legal challenge.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on May 10, 2018, 07:15:48 PM
Silva will have been watching and assessing the squad deciding who he wants to keep and who he wants sold.

That probably won't have taken long.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 10, 2018, 08:33:02 PM


Silva will have been watching and assessing the squad deciding who he wants to keep and who he wants sold.

And he still wants to come ??????
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 10, 2018, 08:34:16 PM

And he still wants to come ??????

Money talks
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 10, 2018, 08:41:47 PM
Money talks

True
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 10, 2018, 08:44:42 PM
I haven't watched as much footie as I would have liked the  the past couple of seasons. I certainly try and watch everton when I can.
For those who watch a lot , what kind of manager is silva? What can we expect from his system and tactics and his type of philosophy? If that is possible to answer.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 10, 2018, 08:52:48 PM
I haven't watched as much footie as I would have liked the  the past couple of seasons. I certainly try and watch everton when I can.
For those who watch a lot , what kind of manager is silva? What can we expect from his system and tactics and his type of philosophy? If that is possible to answer.

10 games of open attacking football with limited emphasise on defence, before he's distracted by talk of a job at a club in Europe, the football goes to shit, and we bin him off before Christmas
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: gizzblue on May 10, 2018, 09:04:28 PM
I haven't watched as much footie as I would have liked the  the past couple of seasons. I certainly try and watch everton when I can.
For those who watch a lot , what kind of manager is silva? What can we expect from his system and tactics and his type of philosophy? If that is possible to answer.
polar opposite to Allardyces shithouse defend defend defend .....Silva has set up and attacked every team in the prem as manager ,and it worked wuite a few times too .
No defence though but "hey after this season I would give my left nut to see us attack for a season ".
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 10, 2018, 09:09:03 PM
The million dollar question is - unlike RM - can he learn that he needs to find some balance with his system to defend ENOUGH that he doesn't get overrun?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 10, 2018, 09:13:11 PM
I haven't watched as much footie as I would have liked the  the past couple of seasons. I certainly try and watch everton when I can.
For those who watch a lot , what kind of manager is silva? What can we expect from his system and tactics and his type of philosophy? If that is possible to answer.

It's pre-Watford, but makes for interesting reading and debunks the whole 'he's Portuguese, and Portugal might as well be Spain to us English, so he probably doesn't give a fuck about defending like Martinez didn't' narrative.

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/02/16/tactical-philosophy-marco-silva/
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluenose 91 on May 10, 2018, 09:16:23 PM
It's pre-Watford, but makes for interesting reading and debunks the whole 'he's Portuguese, and Portugal might as well be Spain to us English, so he probably doesn't give a fuck about defending like Martinez didn't' narrative.

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/02/16/tactical-philosophy-marco-silva/

To be fair I think most people have those fears due to the nature of some of Watfords defeats.

Blew a 2 goal lead in to a 3-2 defeat about three times under him didn't they?

The game at Goodison being the most obvious example was almost a carbon copy of many of our performances under Martinez in 15/16.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 10, 2018, 09:23:01 PM
To be fair I think most people have those fears due to the nature of some of Watfords defeats.

Blew a 2 goal lead in to a 3-2 defeat about three times under him didn't they?

The game at Goodison being the most obvious example was almost a carbon copy of many of our performances under Martinez in 15/16.

Yeah, it's a fair point. I think it's a legitimate concern. I still think he's been working with limited squads and resources overall, and would like to see him with some money and the opportunity to mould a squad properly. It seems like when he was with a better squad (Olympiakos) relative to the opposition he built on sound foundations. Even at Estoril his team only conceded 20 goals in 30 games, when they got promotion.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Sixx1402 on May 10, 2018, 09:38:31 PM
Would be very happy with Silva

I think any kind of attacking manager can be accused of not being good in defence but that's part and parcel of playing that way.

The main difference between him and Martinez was that Silva has a massive impetus on pressing and winning the ball back where as Martinez didn't for some bizarre reason.

Plus get your attacking right and glory could follow, see man city and those cocks across the park who are about to outscore Madrid and become European champions. Wankers

The shite can't defend well at all and look where they are

Get him in and let's have some action!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 11, 2018, 12:33:26 AM
Perfect time for Moyes to return.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: American Evertonian on May 11, 2018, 01:37:17 AM
Perfect time for Moyes to return.

To Preston North End
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 11, 2018, 03:11:44 AM
A lot of clamour on twitter for Arsene Wenger today.

Yes he's won three trophies in his last four season but look at where they are in the league and all the mistakes he carries on making.

If he can't get a team with Ozil, Lacazette and Aubameyang even into a fight for a top four place then what chance has he got here?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 11, 2018, 03:21:54 AM
A lot of clamour on twitter for Arsene Wenger today.

Yes he's won three trophies in his last four season but look at where they are in the league and all the mistakes he carries on making.

If he can't get a team with Ozil, Lacazette and Aubameyang even into a fight for a top four place then what chance has he got here?

Think heíd be a dreadful appointment. Was a great manager but looks like he refuses to learn any lessons now. Being a shit arsenal doesnít sound like a good thing
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: D15TIN on May 11, 2018, 03:59:44 AM
Don't want Wenger personally, tactics are dated, away record is poor this year - people forget he's the most frustrating manager to have in a transfer window too, he dithers then ends up panicking on the final day of the window. Too old etc to start at Everton now. Get a young, hungry manager who can build something for the next 5 years or so
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 11, 2018, 04:02:29 AM
Think heíd be a dreadful appointment. Was a great manager but looks like he refuses to learn any lessons now. Being a shit arsenal doesnít sound like a good thing

The only thing I would say is a shit Arsenal would be at least better to watch than what allardyce has us churning out
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on May 11, 2018, 04:06:58 AM
Silva's head probably wasn't in the right place after our approach, couldn't carry on after that, resigned and took some time out. Probably some agreement in place to sign for Everton in the summer and no compensation to pay out for the incoming manager.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Juanito on May 11, 2018, 04:14:59 AM
So thatís Walcott for sale to start with, didnít want him at Arsenal so why would he want him here?

Because we have Bolasie and Calvert Lewin as options on the wing and he had Welbeck, Sanchez, Oxlade Chamberlin, Iwobi...
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 11, 2018, 04:22:02 AM
The only thing I would say is a shit Arsenal would be at least better to watch than what allardyce has us churning out

Of course. Iím not sure weíd be any more successful though.

We canít attract great so itís either has beens, not good enoughs or backing ourselves to find people on their way up. Weíve got to try and get someone who could become great. Wenger or LVG would be the bottom of my list
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 11, 2018, 10:29:10 AM
To Preston North End
He might not be as an inspiring a recruit as the amazing Silva, but he knows how to polish a turd and he'll have several of them to work with, and as they are mostly unsellable, just can't see past him at the moment, depressing as it may be unless Moshiri is prepared to spend the bomb Moyes could be a safe pair of hands to work a mostly poor squad and make the most of their limits.
He worked wonders for years with no money he could be very good for us with some to spend..
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 11, 2018, 11:39:13 AM
He might not be as an inspiring a recruit as the amazing Silva, but he knows how to polish a turd and he'll have several of them to work with, and as they are mostly unsellable, just can't see past him at the moment, depressing as it may be unless Moshiri is prepared to spend the bomb Moyes could be a safe pair of hands to work a mostly poor squad and make the most of their limits.
He worked wonders for years with no money he could be very good for us with some to spend..
Hell no
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Gash on May 11, 2018, 01:33:25 PM
Come on lads, let's stop this Moyes nonsense every time we need a manager. There's more managers in the world than him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 11, 2018, 01:44:19 PM
He might not be as an inspiring a recruit as the amazing Silva, but he knows how to polish a turd and he'll have several of them to work with, and as they are mostly unsellable, just can't see past him at the moment, depressing as it may be unless Moshiri is prepared to spend the bomb Moyes could be a safe pair of hands to work a mostly poor squad and make the most of their limits.
He worked wonders for years with no money he could be very good for us with some to spend..

He's literally done a poor job everywhere he's been since he left us.

It's baffling how he still gets mentioned to this day.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 11, 2018, 02:12:00 PM
He's literally done a poor job everywhere he's been since he left us.

It's baffling how he still gets mentioned to this day.
He had no chance at UTD or Sunderland, Spain didn't look a fit from the start, think he's done well at West Ham considering how hostile it's been from his first match, just think with the way he used to raise average players to doing a good job for us unless we can afford a massive clear out and rebuild he wouldn't be the worst choice that's all.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 11, 2018, 02:28:09 PM
Think I can get on board with silva, it is a bit of a risk and thereís a chance we are looking at someone to do a rescue job come Jan, but as long as we give him some firepower and a midfield to work with then I think weíll be flying.

Donít want docoure tho, whoever at the time said nah not into him, playing above himself - I have to agree with them, changed my opinion on him a lot last few months.

Richarlison, yep no problem.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 11, 2018, 02:36:44 PM
The only issue with silva is how much time will he be allowed if things aren't going right? There's that hanging concern from a lot of people about how he went down with hull and then got sacked after half a season at Watford.
As soon as results go a bit south, a lot of people will soon bring that up. He's gonna have to hit the ground running and show that his brand of football is where we need to be, straight from the off.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on May 11, 2018, 02:44:38 PM
Some of our fans really need to take their heads out of the gutter and at least try and aim upwards.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 11, 2018, 03:15:17 PM
I thing Silva will be a good fit providing heís been having a look at our players since his Watford exit and has a plan in place to get things happening immediately after the WHU game is out of the way. In order for him to succeed from the off Moshiri needs to back him in the transfer market once the window opens and give him the reigns to have a proper go next season.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 11, 2018, 04:04:07 PM
It's pre-Watford, but makes for interesting reading and debunks the whole 'he's Portuguese, and Portugal might as well be Spain to us English, so he probably doesn't give a fuck about defending like Martinez didn't' narrative.

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/02/16/tactical-philosophy-marco-silva/

Great write up, very psyched for this.

Tellingly : clean sheet first and foremost.

Sounds a bit like a modern Hodgson, very big on positional sense in each phase of play, cutting off passing lanes and looking to play with a quick tempo when with the ball. Would be a great direction to go and Bolasie, Walcott and even Schneiderlin would fit like gloves in his system imo.

If Tierney is available would be absolutely perfect. Pay whatever it takes.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 11, 2018, 04:06:30 PM
He might not be as an inspiring a recruit as the amazing Silva, but he knows how to polish a turd and he'll have several of them to work with, and as they are mostly unsellable, just can't see past him at the moment, depressing as it may be unless Moshiri is prepared to spend the bomb Moyes could be a safe pair of hands to work a mostly poor squad and make the most of their limits.
He worked wonders for years with no money he could be very good for us with some to spend..

Get a grip man. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 11, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Get a grip man. Stop embarrassing yourself.
So sorry if i'd have known a football genius like you disagreed i'd never had typed, even keeping Allardyce would be better than Silva, i know he's a cutie and all that be a nice poster for you i suppose.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 11, 2018, 04:31:36 PM
So sorry if i'd have known a football genius like you disagreed i'd never had typed, even keeping Allardyce would be better than Silva, i know he's a cutie and all that be a nice poster for you i suppose.

Heís super cute to be fair. Moyes looks shot. We are meant to be looking upwards. Surely a manager whoíd stayed here too long the first time and then failed in 3 jobs before doing okay in a 4th really isnít the answer
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 11, 2018, 04:38:08 PM
Friend of a friend played for Sunderland when he took them down.

Said Moyes Ďwasnít the same maní.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 11, 2018, 04:46:18 PM
Heís super cute to be fair. Moyes looks shot. We are meant to be looking upwards. Surely a manager whoíd stayed here too long the first time and then failed in 3 jobs before doing okay in a 4th really isnít the answer
I know what you mean but is Silva upwards really? we are a very poor squad apart from a few, Silvas short record is shite and would be too bigger risk in our state, my main point on Moyes is the way he can put average players to a job, we all know it's not what we want, the same way we all hated having to bring Allardyce in, keeping the bulk of this squad and adding the odd player can only bring similar results as this year at best, we won't be spending anywhere near enough to to improve up the table mostly because of what we are stuck with, our transfer dealings have tied us to this for a while yet, going back dosen't work usually but i'd have a Moyes before risking a Silva anytime in our situation.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 11, 2018, 04:58:24 PM
I know what you mean but is Silva upwards really? we are a very poor squad apart from a few, Silvas short record is shite and would be too bigger risk in our state, my main point on Moyes is the way he can put average players to a job, we all know it's not what we want, the same way we all hated having to bring Allardyce in, keeping the bulk of this squad and adding the odd player can only bring similar results as this year at best, we won't be spending anywhere near enough to to improve up the table mostly because of what we are stuck with, our transfer dealings have tied us to this for a while yet, going back dosen't work usually but i'd have a Moyes before risking a Silva anytime in our situation.

Have you read the link Bluedylan posted yesterday about Silva by any chance?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 11, 2018, 05:03:47 PM
I know what you mean but is Silva upwards really? we are a very poor squad apart from a few, Silvas short record is shite and would be too bigger risk in our state, my main point on Moyes is the way he can put average players to a job, we all know it's not what we want, the same way we all hated having to bring Allardyce in, keeping the bulk of this squad and adding the odd player can only bring similar results as this year at best, we won't be spending anywhere near enough to to improve up the table mostly because of what we are stuck with, our transfer dealings have tied us to this for a while yet, going back dosen't work usually but i'd have a Moyes before risking a Silva anytime in our situation.
.........................Silva is an example of the type of  young progressive manager that we want . Silva is not necessarily the exact fit but he's pretty close ,knows the PL and wants to come here ( or he did last I heard ) .
 I don't agree our squad is poor ,it's just playing poorly and needs direction and a few additions.
Silva is no more of a risk than any of the other candidates. I'm being very polite when I say Moyes is a very uninspiring choice . Three failures since leaving us and unpopular at WHU need I say more ? I'd take an aged Wenger over him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 11, 2018, 05:06:15 PM
I know what you mean but is Silva upwards really? we are a very poor squad apart from a few, Silvas short record is shite and would be too bigger risk in our state, my main point on Moyes is the way he can put average players to a job, we all know it's not what we want, the same way we all hated having to bring Allardyce in, keeping the bulk of this squad and adding the odd player can only bring similar results as this year at best, we won't be spending anywhere near enough to to improve up the table mostly because of what we are stuck with, our transfer dealings have tied us to this for a while yet, going back dosen't work usually but i'd have a Moyes before risking a Silva anytime in our situation.

Yeah, none of that makes any logical sense, and it's almost all based on inaccurate premises. But crack on, chief.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 11, 2018, 05:06:54 PM
So sorry if i'd have known a football genius like you disagreed i'd never had typed, even keeping Allardyce would be better than Silva, i know he's a cutie and all that be a nice poster for you i suppose.

Proper dinosaur, you.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 11, 2018, 05:10:47 PM
I'd tolerate the Moyes shouts if he hadn't been a disaster since he left us for United.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 11, 2018, 05:14:20 PM
Could Walter Smith do an interim job for the next couple of seasons, just to navigate this tricky time? Safe pair of hands. Jonjo Kenny would be playing left midfield before you know it.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: AllyBlue14 on May 11, 2018, 05:34:08 PM
We needed a safe pair of hands this year, given the situation we were in when we turned to Allardyce. I don't believe the players are as good as they're made out to be either - if we're looking at really breaking through the glass ceiling, we'd realistically need to upgrade in 5 or 6 positions.

However, the summer is the perfect time to start. New manager, new philosophy, new players. Personally, I'm not sold on Silva and I'm unsure on Fonseca but we need to head in that kind of direction. We need to inject new life into the place and get away from the the merry-go-round of Moyes, Pardew, Allardyce, Hughes, Hodgson and Lambert and start looking forward.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 11, 2018, 05:34:50 PM
Could Walter Smith do an interim job for the next couple of seasons, just to navigate this tricky time? Safe pair of hands. Jonjo Kenny would be playing left midfield before you know it.
Never liked that cunt i'd rather have Koenenez
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 11, 2018, 05:38:45 PM
We needed a safe pair of hands this year, given the situation we were in when we turned to Allardyce. I don't believe the players are as good as they're made out to be either - if we're looking at really breaking through the glass ceiling, we'd realistically need to upgrade in 5 or 6 positions.

However, the summer is the perfect time to start. New manager, new philosophy, new players. Personally, I'm not sold on Silva and I'm unsure on Fonseca but we need to head in that kind of direction. We need to inject new life into the place and get away from the the merry-go-round of Moyes, Pardew, Allardyce, Hughes, Hodgson and Lambert and start looking forward.
................if the 6 names were the short list I'd give Hodgson the  nod
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 11, 2018, 05:40:57 PM
We could have got moyes instead of allardyce at the time i think. The fact we didn't says it all really.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 11, 2018, 05:42:52 PM
Anyone still think we can land fonseca? I know that Spanish guy said he's turned us down as he thinks he's on shortlist for the arsenal job but I just can't see him getting it.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 11, 2018, 05:43:58 PM
So sorry if i'd have known a football genius like you disagreed i'd never had typed, even keeping Allardyce would be better than Silva, i know he's a cutie and all that be a nice poster for you i suppose.

Well yeah I recon I know more about footie than you do. Sorry if that tears you apart, me being a girl and all....
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 11, 2018, 05:45:22 PM
................if the 6 names were the short list I'd give Hodgson the  nod

If that was any clubs shortlist they need immediately kicking out of the league and the owners locked away in a tiny dungeon forever to think about their crimes
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 11, 2018, 05:47:17 PM
Iím starting to think Silva might not be the answer. Not based on his ability but I can well see a large chunk of our fans, if he started badly, drawing on his time at Hull and Watford and using that as a stick to beat him with and say I told you so.

Weíve turned into a pretty intolerant fan base over the past few years. I think weíve been burnt badly since Martinezís first season and itís left us pretty bitter and we take it out on players and managers alike.

A completely fresh dynamic approach is likely to be the way forward with someone with no baggage of English football so we can all get behind him regardless of how well he starts.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 11, 2018, 05:47:51 PM
We needed a safe pair of hands this year, given the situation we were in when we turned to Allardyce. I don't believe the players are as good as they're made out to be either - if we're looking at really breaking through the glass ceiling, we'd realistically need to upgrade in 5 or 6 positions.

However, the summer is the perfect time to start. New manager, new philosophy, new players. Personally, I'm not sold on Silva and I'm unsure on Fonseca but we need to head in that kind of direction. We need to inject new life into the place and get away from the the merry-go-round of Moyes, Pardew, Allardyce, Hughes, Hodgson and Lambert and start looking forward.
Let's see if Moshiri is really ambitious and willing to go all in and after his first wad has been squandered by others, a proper manager and real quality players were we lack and doing it short term will be an eye wateringly expensive, it's what we thought we were going to get when he took over, the reality has been very different, personally although he's improved us being here financially, little else has progressed and even got worse on the pitch, so big balls time or same old same old beckons.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 11, 2018, 05:49:06 PM
We could have got moyes instead of allardyce at the time i think. The fact we didn't says it all really.

Moyes has already taken the West Ham job before Koeman got the boot I think. Otherwise I think he would have been nailed on to come here till the end of the season.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: AllyBlue14 on May 11, 2018, 05:49:58 PM
If that was any clubs shortlist they need immediately kicking out of the league and the owners locked away in a tiny dungeon forever to think about their crimes

I was about to say, if that was the shortlist we might as well never watch football again!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 11, 2018, 05:53:30 PM
Well yeah I recon I know more about footie than you do. Sorry if that tears you apart, me being a girl and all....
Being a girl is irrelevant, being a poster who just jumps on people who are expressing a view that might not go with the flow and chuck school child insults about to play to a very small crowd is however as annoying as fuck, your'e like the anti-tinkerbell.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 11, 2018, 05:58:05 PM
Moyes has already taken the West Ham job before Koeman got the boot I think. Otherwise I think he would have been nailed on to come here till the end of the season.

Moyes took over at West Ham on 7 Nov. Ron got the boot on 23 Oct.

I think we were still thinking we could get someone good at the time and finally relented to Fat Sam on 30 Nov.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 11, 2018, 06:01:14 PM
Being a girl is irrelevant, being a poster who just jumps on people who are expressing a view that might not go with the flow and chuck school child insults about to play to a very small crowd is however as annoying as fuck, your'e like the anti-tinkerbell.

Anti tinker bell Hahha amazing. I strive to be that. Cheers
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 11, 2018, 06:11:29 PM
Anti tinker bell Hahha amazing. I strive to be that. Cheers
If everyone thought the same way about football, who should be playing, how it should be played, who is the right manager it would be boring as fuck and we'd be better off with snooker, i'm used to abuse on here though i got loads when i said Koeman was a tosser and shouldn't be manager at the start, and i was wrong he was great.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 11, 2018, 06:27:48 PM
Moyes took over at West Ham on 7 Nov. Ron got the boot on 23 Oct.

I think we were still thinking we could get someone good at the time and finally relented to Fat Sam on 30 Nov.

Ah right, I knew it was around about the same time. I remember still digesting the Koeman exit and seeing Moyes pop up there and thinking I wonder If heíd been touch with Kenwright offering his services behind the scenes.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 11, 2018, 06:30:05 PM
Ah right, I knew it was around about the same time. I remember still digesting the Koeman exit and seeing Moyes pop up there and thinking I wonder If heíd been touch with Kenwright offering his services behind the scenes.

A choice between the two and I would have preferred Moyes and I think his name was on the bookies shortlist. I had to go back and look at the dates to see the exact timeline, but when Moyes was appointed I think we still thought we were going to get someone decent.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Hawkandro on May 11, 2018, 06:47:25 PM
Enough of this Brexit nonsense. No need for a fancy European manager when Ian Holloway is free and available.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 11, 2018, 06:52:51 PM
Ah right, I knew it was around about the same time. I remember still digesting the Koeman exit and seeing Moyes pop up there and thinking I wonder If heíd been touch with Kenwright offering his services behind the scenes.

He pretty much did. Sure I saw him doing the after match analysis of 1 of our games saying weíd have to be quick because he had other offers
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 11, 2018, 10:55:34 PM
I think the list is Fonseca, then Silva.  End of.  Unless maybe a wild card in case Fulham doesn't win the playoffs.

I can live with that.

We go forward, not back.  I no longer have any bitterness toward Moyes, and look forward to the day we can bring him to the opening of the new stadium and cheer him as a guest of honour.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Morta75 on May 12, 2018, 12:42:28 AM
So we can just get use to it that Big Sam will be in charge next season also... Not by fare my first choice, but I am pretty sure this is how it will be...  :headbang:
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bluenuck on May 12, 2018, 01:59:49 PM
The fat Italian waiter anyone?

🏃
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 12, 2018, 02:03:22 PM
The fat Italian waiter anyone?

🏃

Heís spanish or am I thinking of a different waiter
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bluenuck on May 12, 2018, 02:04:20 PM
Heís spanish or am I thinking of a different waiter

Lmao. To many crown royals

Spanish Italian. What's the diff.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: BlueForYou on May 12, 2018, 02:07:18 PM
Latin
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 12, 2018, 02:50:41 PM
Lmao. To many crown royals

Spanish Italian. What's the diff.

Like Canadians and Americans 😉
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 12, 2018, 02:53:12 PM
Fat ITALIAN waiter...pmsl
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 12, 2018, 02:54:20 PM
Glad I'm hearing fonseca name mooted again. He's personally my choice. I'm hoping his recent successes will help bring in quality signings.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 12, 2018, 05:18:02 PM
Im not sure about Silva, he didn't seem to handle the pressure when things went sour at Watford, the pressure here is a thousand times worse, just hope hes given time
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 12, 2018, 05:24:51 PM
Benitez and Rodgers are both good managers, who we might've considered under different circumstances, but the fanbase would slaughter them the moment anything went against us, so it's pointless considering them.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 12, 2018, 06:20:51 PM
Benitez and Rodgers are both good managers, who we might've considered under different circumstances, but the fanbase would slaughter them the moment anything went against us, so it's pointless considering them.

Iíd welcome Rodgers but more readily than Benitez. Heís more cringeworthy than anything. Benitez was a bit of a cunt about us
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2018, 06:38:25 PM
Benitez and Rodgers are both good managers, who we might've considered under different circumstances, but the fanbase would slaughter them the moment anything went against us, so it's pointless considering them.

Rodgers could have went to a club like us (but obviously not us) after he left Liverpool. His stock is down after he went for the easy life in Glasgow, especially considering his performances in Europe with them.

Our next manager has to play good football so that takes Benitez out of the equation.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Silas on May 12, 2018, 06:47:58 PM
Silva is a risk but I do like the idea of how he approaches games
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2018, 06:51:00 PM
Silva is a risk but I do like the idea of how he approaches games

Theyíre all risks for one reason or another.

Koeman was probably the safest option at the time and look at how that turned out.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 12, 2018, 07:03:28 PM
Rodgers could have went to a club like us (but obviously not us) after he left Liverpool. His stock is down after he went for the easy life in Glasgow, especially considering his performances in Europe with them.

Our next manager has to play good football so that takes Benitez out of the equation.

I don't think his stock has gone down, personally.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2018, 07:05:40 PM
I don't think his stock has gone down, personally.

Fair enough, I disagree.

Be surprised if his next job isnít a West Ham/Southampton sort of job.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on May 12, 2018, 07:14:46 PM
Rodgers could have went to a club like us (but obviously not us) after he left Liverpool. His stock is down after he went for the easy life in Glasgow, especially considering his performances in Europe with them.

Our next manager has to play good football so that takes Benitez out of the equation.

There's only so much you can achieve at Celtic; and although others have done about as much as him he's been more impressive in his approach than most. I think if he leaves soon he will get a decent job.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 12, 2018, 07:15:50 PM
Fair enough, I disagree.

Be surprised if his next job isn’t a West Ham/Southampton sort of job.
......................I could see him being considered for Leicester
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 12, 2018, 07:21:51 PM
Fair enough, I disagree.

Be surprised if his next job isnít a West Ham/Southampton sort of job.

I think heís kind of stuck more than his stocks gone down. Probably needs to do something better than Celtic to interest any of the other 5 good sides in England after being sacked. Then thereís us. Then really clubs like West Ham and Southampton probably come next anyway

Thereís really nowhere in England for him to go without taking on a West Ham, Newcastle Southampton level club first
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 12, 2018, 08:02:47 PM
Might fancy a European job, and maybe sack his Mrs off for one of the fit little secretaries at Porto or somewhere like that.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 12, 2018, 08:08:22 PM
It was a good move going to Celtic. Opportunity to enhance a reputation as a winning manager and win some silverware, albeit in a one team league, but clubs will much more readily take a punt on a manager that has relative success on his CV and hope it translates to a higher level again than mediocrity and failure like the route Moyes took after Man U.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 13, 2018, 06:24:44 AM
https://twitter.com/5livesport/status/969671825629134848
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bluenuck on May 13, 2018, 06:26:24 AM
don't know why, but I'm not a fan of Silva. Never have been.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 13, 2018, 06:31:08 AM
https://twitter.com/5livesport/status/969671825629134848

He's the man for us.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 13, 2018, 06:39:45 AM
He's the man for us.



Yeah I'm on board. Kinda think we might regret it if we don't go for him, and someone else does, watching him achieve elsewhere.

Attention to detail. Tick. He's not Martinez or Koeman.
Doesn't care about other team's reputations. Tick. He's not Moyes or Allardyce.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 13, 2018, 07:31:18 AM
Fair enough, I disagree.

Be surprised if his next job isnít a West Ham/Southampton sort of job.

Yeah not convinced a bigger club would touch him. Southampton a really good shout.

Benitez is a weird one, because of his CV you could just as easily see him at Leicester as you could Inter.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Free Agent on May 13, 2018, 09:11:17 AM
Rags reporting Arsenal are seriously looking at Arteta as an alternative to Allegri.
I would love to have Mikky back at our club
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Juanito on May 13, 2018, 11:21:50 AM
https://twitter.com/5livesport/status/969671825629134848

Great endorsement from a former player. I can see Silva in the dugout with his Everton trackie on.  Also think he is the sort of manager that could get us playing with three forwards and not needing a target man. Bring Richarlson with him, would like to see something like Lookman, Walcott and Richarlson up top. 
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 13, 2018, 12:54:13 PM
Great endorsement from a former player. I can see Silva in the dugout with his Everton trackie on.  Also think he is the sort of manager that could get us playing with three forwards and not needing a target man. Bring Richarlson with him, would like to see something like Lookman, Walcott and Richarlson up top. 

Most of his teams here have played with a ST havenít they?

Donít know whether that was because of who was there or volition.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on May 13, 2018, 12:55:12 PM
Great endorsement from a former player. I can see Silva in the dugout with his Everton trackie on.  Also think he is the sort of manager that could get us playing with three forwards and not needing a target man. Bring Richarlson with him, would like to see something like Lookman, Walcott and Richarlson up top. 

Not having that, it will be his sexy Everton suit and designer stuble
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 13, 2018, 01:03:27 PM
He's the man for us.



Yeah, I think he's the one I want just from reading about him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eugene on May 13, 2018, 01:14:06 PM
Could Walter Smith do an interim job for the next couple of seasons, just to navigate this tricky time? Safe pair of hands. Jonjo Kenny would be playing left midfield before you know it.
What back to miming bagpipe players ffs
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Silas on May 13, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
I think there's so much potential with Silva but although I know he's not Martinez in any way I am wary that it could all go tits up. I did fucking love the first twelve months of Martinez though and if we can get back to something like that it would be great
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 13, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
Was thinking about what type of manager fits where we are as a club.

When we had no money, then having a tactical pragmatist was essential as we couldnít afford, literally, to make errors too often that would cost us league placings.

Conversely that financial restraint, through enabling longer term thinking and less ability to make frequent managerial changes, lead to a more exiting, if not immediate, transfer strategy as we tended to go for players who were young enough to develop while they were here.

Now that we have more money and more expectation that puts more pressure on a manager to be immediate.

Therefore if you appoint pragmatists, their natural inclination will be to buy players who are theoretically ready to go, and tactics are likely to reflect that too.

When things donít go right itís difficult to keep patience with pragmatism when there are things in place to provide more.

Therefore a more idealistic manager should buy more players who are in line with that approach.

One of RMís most bizarre failings was that he didnít do this (bar Barry, who of his signings could really pass the ball?) and was probably his undoing as he didnít have the players with base skills in sync with how he wanted to play to carry a basic level of performance when confidence dropped.

Koeman played younger players sometimes but pragmatic tactics in big away games laid an underlying impression that came out when it started to collapse this year.

But also signings wise, we did sign some players to develop but it was the here and now players who didnít provide enough that formed the idea of wasted money.

So I think someone like Silva would be a decent fit in theory.

But we shouldnít be worried about it not being a massive success (eg potential defensive failings) as long as the base tenants of synergy between approach and signings are in place.
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Post by: brap2 on May 13, 2018, 05:40:01 PM
Most of his teams here have played with a ST havenít they?

Donít know whether that was because of who was there or volition.

Yeah I think so, wonder how heíd take to Tosun?

Iím sure DCL could do a job for him in that niasse style stretch the play role but Tosun isnít particularly fast over the ground and is more of a burier isnít he.

Would still love Richarlison at LW like, very high ceiling I think.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 13, 2018, 05:43:42 PM
Not having that, it will be his sexy Everton suit and designer stuble

He wears some proper poor suits. Like off the peg from Burton without trying it on first. Iíd want him to up his game in that regard if he came to us. 
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 13, 2018, 06:59:18 PM
Yeah I think so, wonder how heíd take to Tosun?

Iím sure DCL could do a job for him in that niasse style stretch the play role but Tosun isnít particularly fast over the ground and is more of a burier isnít he.

Would still love Richarlison at LW like, very high ceiling I think.

Would have thought heíd work with Tosun. Bar constant channel running I think heís pretty flexible re a managerís tactics.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 14, 2018, 01:32:16 PM
Silva being linked with West Ham this morning
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 14, 2018, 01:55:29 PM
Silva being linked with West Ham this morning
I thought Moyes had another season there to get it right, he showed his worth to them yesterday against us. But in saying that Accy Stanley would hav got it right against us
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Juanito on May 14, 2018, 06:12:05 PM
Most of his teams here have played with a ST havenít they?

Donít know whether that was because of who was there or volition.

Think so but I imagine he could do it and offer us something different, so we have an alternative to Tosun that is not another target man with limited pace.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Juanito on May 14, 2018, 06:13:30 PM
Yeah I think so, wonder how heíd take to Tosun?

Iím sure DCL could do a job for him in that niasse style stretch the play role but Tosun isnít particularly fast over the ground and is more of a burier isnít he.

Would still love Richarlison at LW like, very high ceiling I think.


Yeah, I have a feeling Richarlison will come over with Silva and be very good. Although I wouldnít want him to take Lookmanís place.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 14, 2018, 06:33:06 PM

Yeah, I have a feeling Richarlison will come over with Silva and be very good. Although I wouldnít want him to take Lookmanís place.

Nah, him and ade can share bolasieís speck.

Actually canít see lookman coming back tbh. Think him and Gueye might go.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 14, 2018, 06:54:14 PM
Think so but I imagine he could do it and offer us something different, so we have an alternative to Tosun that is not another target man with limited pace.

Yeah heís had decent runs there at Arsenal but theyíve never stuck with it.

I presume he lacks with his back to goal play to be selected there consistently.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 14, 2018, 07:13:59 PM
I'm giving Moshiri the benefit of the doubt here and expecting an announcement on Wednesday that Allardyce has gone, and shortly after have a new management structure spearheaded by Brands and Silva announced
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 14, 2018, 07:31:14 PM
Just get in done asap, the longer it takes, the more anxious we all become.

Announce whoever is taking over straight after, give us all something positive going into the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 14, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
every managerial pick is a risk, however like @kramer0 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4360)    said in the lookman thread  we really did miss the boat on Lucien Favre someome how has a well drilled defence but likes to play  dynamic, quick and attacking-minded football.

just need it sorted  before the end of May
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 14, 2018, 10:30:15 PM
Fuck the Silva shouts off please . The next big mistake .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 14, 2018, 10:42:20 PM
Fuck the Silva shouts off please . The next big mistake .

What makes you think that?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on May 14, 2018, 11:34:53 PM
Moyes is likely to be available and looking for a top 8 club 🤣
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: gizzblue on May 14, 2018, 11:36:02 PM
Fuck the Silva shouts off please . The next big mistake .
So fuck off a guy with great potential who took over a hull team who were already down pretty much then had Watford playing attacking football above and beyond the players he had until we got involved ,who's ex players say his organisation of every facet of the game is amazing ...
For what ??....another year of full on defending under Sam or LVG maybe?....I know what id prefer thanks .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 14, 2018, 11:39:21 PM
So fuck off a guy with great potential who took over a hull team who were already down pretty much then had Watford playing attacking football above and beyond the players he had until we got involved ,who's ex players say his organisation of every facet of the game is amazing ...
For what ??....another year of full on defending under Sam or LVG maybe?....I know what id prefer thanks .

There are more managers in the world than Silva, Sam and LvG.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: gizzblue on May 14, 2018, 11:42:31 PM
There are more managers in the world than Silva, Sam and LvG.
Aside Fonseca maybe non being linked strongly with us im afraid .. also if Silva is such a big gamble why on earth would you want to gamble on other managers who don't know the league whatsoever ?.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 14, 2018, 11:44:25 PM
What makes you think that?

@Rodenplav64 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3475)   vill probably answer himself, but what makes people think Silva is a good shout?

 His CV is hit and miss, experience in the prem not very impressive to put it politely. Got Hull relegated, was a flavour of the month at Watford, then lost his head completely when a bigger club had expressed interest in him and got sacked. Generally wasnít better or worse than Mazzarri or Flores. His defensive record in the prem is atrocious.

What else? He is not Allardyce, is young, has a fancy Portuguese name and is ďprogressiveĒ whatever that means. Oh, and there was some article in some paper about his philosophy so thatís probably enough to hire him.

And Iím not buying the arguments that Hull were shit and Watford defenders woeful, so itís not his fault. There a lots of managers who have done a better job in the lesser prem clubs than Everton (Dyche, Howe), in the Championship or Swiss or Bulgarian league but that doesnít mean we should offer them a job.
Iím not saying we should waste our time chasing unrealistic targets, but surely we can get something better than another ďPorto guyĒ?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 14, 2018, 11:47:01 PM
Aside Fonseca maybe non being linked strongly with us im afraid .. also if Silva is such a big gamble why on earth would you want to gamble on other managers who don't know the league whatsoever ?.

I would rather take gamble on someone unproven than someone proven to be a bit shit.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 14, 2018, 11:54:43 PM
The way atalanta cut through us like piss through snow,  I think we should get their manager in
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Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 14, 2018, 11:58:31 PM
Sorry to be a miserable fucker but I predict the new man wonít last the season.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 14, 2018, 11:59:21 PM
Emery is officially out of work now - would he get a job at the bigger teams now or would rebuilding Everton be attractive? He works well with a director of football as well.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Confucius on May 15, 2018, 12:04:13 AM
Emery is officially out of work now - would he get a job at the bigger teams now or would rebuilding Everton be attractive? He works well with a director of football as well.

Arsenal and Chelsea would be interested.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mac934 on May 15, 2018, 12:51:31 AM
And so the manager merry go round starts. As one door closes, Tuchel, another opens, M***s. Don't go there Mr Moshiri, just don't!!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: gizzblue on May 15, 2018, 12:54:20 AM
I would rather take gamble on someone unproven than someone proven to be a bit shit.
When's he been a bit shit ....hull were already relagated aside the shouting.. and Watford were doing well till we stuck the oar in.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 15, 2018, 01:01:36 AM
Sam on Sky NOW
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 15, 2018, 01:03:29 AM
When's he been a bit shit ....hull were already relagated aside the shouting.. and Watford were doing well till we stuck the oar in.


Yes, were doing well til got crap.
Darren Moore almost saved already relegated West Brom, Carvalhal did the same with Swansea. Fancy them?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: gizzblue on May 15, 2018, 01:10:51 AM
Yes, were doing well til got crap.
Darren Moore almost saved already relegated West Brom, Carvalhal did the same with Swansea. Fancy them?
We're doing well till "we" turned his head ...what part of that is so hard to grasp ...Darren Moore is a west brom stalwart has the players full backing hence the upward turn the other fella is complete shite had a slight new manager bounce....but we can argue the toss on this all day unroll the heavy swigger is gone and the board get their finger out ....
Also have Darren Moore or the other fella wrote a book for Moshiri yet?.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 15, 2018, 01:31:52 AM
When he signs for us, who will turn his head after a month or two?

As for a book, I think a long article about their philosophy on a website would do for starters.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Juanito on May 15, 2018, 02:25:06 AM
Nah, him and ade can share bolasieís speck.

Actually canít see lookman coming back tbh. Think him and Gueye might go.

Donít say that! Lookman and Gueye will both be excited to work with our new, young inspirational manager.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 15, 2018, 02:53:37 AM
Don’t say that! Lookman and Gueye will both be excited to work with our new, young inspirational manager.

Please welcome to Everton football club, mister Brendan Rodgers.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Trowel on May 15, 2018, 03:25:48 AM
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/everton/story/3498347/sam-allardyce-expected-to-part-ways-with-everton-next-week-sources

Sam Allardyce is expected to leave his role as Everton manager later this week, sources have told ESPN FC.

Allardyce's future at Everton has been the subject of conjecture for several weeks now with the club linked with a number of possible replacements for the former England boss.

The 63-year-old is due to meet Everton majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri for talks this week, and sources said both parties are expected to agree to a parting of ways.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 15, 2018, 03:49:02 AM
Well with Fonseca interviewing for the West Ham job today Iíd be a bit gutted if weíve not got an interview lined up too.
Weíve had 6 months to sound out interested parties and he looks one of the best around at a level which is attainable.

Iím sure itís all in hand and heís booked in at 2pm at Moshiriís London office after we bin Sam at 9am.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on May 15, 2018, 03:58:27 AM
Do you really talk to West Ham if Everton have also shown an interest in your services? Am I being too precious like?

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 15, 2018, 04:02:49 AM
@Rodenplav64 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3475)   vill probably answer himself, but what makes people think Silva is a good shout?

 His CV is hit and miss, experience in the prem not very impressive to put it politely. Got Hull relegated, was a flavour of the month at Watford, then lost his head completely when a bigger club had expressed interest in him and got sacked. Generally wasn’t better or worse than Mazzarri or Flores. His defensive record in the prem is atrocious.

What else? He is not Allardyce, is young, has a fancy Portuguese name and is “progressive” whatever that means. Oh, and there was some article in some paper about his philosophy so that’s probably enough to hire him.

And I’m not buying the arguments that Hull were shit and Watford defenders woeful, so it’s not his fault. There a lots of managers who have done a better job in the lesser prem clubs than Everton (Dyche, Howe), in the Championship or Swiss or Bulgarian league but that doesn’t mean we should offer them a job.
I’m not saying we should waste our time chasing unrealistic targets, but surely we can get something better than another “Porto guy”?


Nah that just about sums it up .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 15, 2018, 04:37:14 AM
Do you really talk to West Ham if Everton have also shown an interest in your services? Am I being too precious like?



To someone not overly familiar with the league thereís only a few places between them and one plays in London the other up north.

I know we like think weíre a cut above them but outside of our fan base thereís not much in it probably.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 15, 2018, 04:53:03 AM
To someone not overly familiar with the league thereís only a few places between them and one plays in London the other up north.

I know we like think weíre a cut above them but outside of our fan base thereís not much in it probably.

Are west ham likely to offer big funds for transfers?
I expect moshiri will still back a new manager with serioýs money,  albeit there needs to be a lot of sales as well.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 15, 2018, 04:55:41 AM
There's absolutely nothing West Ham can offer that we can't.

If we wanted fonseca we would've got him.

We obviously want Silva and I'm glad we've at least shown some coherent thought.

I'm just a bit worried that he's not going to be in straight away. Maybe I'm just being a bit of a stress head though.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 15, 2018, 04:57:06 AM
Yeah some talk of legal action if we try to get him. That needs ironing out first
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 15, 2018, 05:02:12 AM
I'll get behind  whoever it is.  The proof will be in the football we see. If it looks progressive with a return of  passion and desire mixed in with some nice crisp pass and move footie. Hopefully plenty of shots and goals to celebrate. That's what we want. Doesn't matter if we finish 7th if there appears a clear improvement that can be worked on further.
This is not a quick fix. There's players from moyes era still here.
Just hope we finally get the right guy and stop the circus that we have been this year
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 15, 2018, 05:03:10 AM
Just to point out saying Silva got Hull relegated is like saying Darren Moore got West Brom relegated this season.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Tinga on May 15, 2018, 05:07:27 AM
"we played some phenomenal football going forwards under him, but defensively we were the worst since we have been promoted. The amount of set piece goals we conceded was frankly ridiculous. I think we conceded 1 in 4 corners and free kicks with him at the helm."

Sounds like a certain bobby brown shoes that..
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 15, 2018, 05:18:30 AM
More interested in what former players like Ryan Mason and Troy Deeney have to say about him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 15, 2018, 05:40:08 AM
"we played some phenomenal football going forwards under him, but defensively we were the worst since we have been promoted. The amount of set piece goals we conceded was frankly ridiculous. I think we conceded 1 in 4 corners and free kicks with him at the helm."

Sounds like a certain bobby brown shoes that..

Whoís that from?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 15, 2018, 05:45:50 AM
Thing is, he was sacked from Watford too soon.
They havenít been better under Gracia and Dyche probably went on a worse run with Burnley this season yet got them back on track.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Tinga on May 15, 2018, 06:15:27 AM
Whoís that from?

Just some random Watford fan, could be bollocks but I'm wary and broken after how our last few managers turned out.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2018, 06:23:59 AM
Just to point out saying Silva got Hull relegated is like saying Darren Moore got West Brom relegated this season.


The season Hull got relegated, they had an 11% win ratio before Silva arrived, and a 37% win ratio for the rest of the season, under him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 15, 2018, 06:27:55 AM
The season Hull got relegated, they had an 11% win ratio before Silva arrived, and a 37% win ratio for the rest of the season, under him.

The improvement was obvious and had we have signed him after that spell then it would be universally seen as a positive one.

Itís only because he ultimately failed at Watford that his time at Hull is being misremembered.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2018, 06:34:31 AM
Couldn't see Andy Hunter's article from tonight posted anywhere:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/14/everton-likely-marco-silva-sam-allardyce-rooney
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 15, 2018, 06:56:33 AM
Couldn't see Andy Hunter's article from tonight posted anywhere:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/14/everton-likely-marco-silva-sam-allardyce-rooney
Go on Silva, take them to the cleaners
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: American Evertonian on May 15, 2018, 07:04:10 AM
Before we hire a manager we should honestly consider hiring a Director of Football. Think that is important if we want to build something with continuity
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 15, 2018, 12:19:17 PM
Before we hire a manager we should honestly consider hiring a Director of Football. Think that is important if we want to build something with continuity

I agree itís important but not as important as the right managerial appointment.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Makis on May 15, 2018, 12:21:48 PM
https://countertacticsblog.wordpress.com/2017/01/27/who-is-marco-silva/
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Morta75 on May 15, 2018, 01:20:45 PM
I have to be honest and say that this Silva guy is not in my opinion the correct man. Don't think he will get us better og higher in the premier leauge. But I said the same about Martinez when he arrived and he proved me totally wrong that season. If he comes in I will offcource support him  8)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: School of Science on May 15, 2018, 01:37:14 PM
I have to be honest and say that this Silva guy is not in my opinion the correct man. Don't think he will get us better og higher in the premier leauge. But I said the same about Martinez when he arrived and he proved me totally wrong that season. If he comes in I will offcource support him  8)

After so much despair and division amongst our fans, that for me is the only way forward, to get behind the manager and give him a fair chance, no matter who it is, Silva or Fonseca. Both have similar records, where as Fonseca has a better CL record, Silva has experienced our league. Don't think we have to worry about CL just yet does anyone else. If it is Silva he will definitely be getting my full support. Let's face it we all want Sam and his entourage out the door pronto.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 15, 2018, 03:24:16 PM
Laugh my bollocks off he came and signed Cleverley and Deeney straight off .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 15, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
If he can give us the attack of Martinez and keep us tighter at the back, I'll be okay with it.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on May 15, 2018, 03:43:33 PM
I agree itís important but not as important as the right managerial appointment.

If they're not compatible both roles become compromised at best and redundant at worst.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 15, 2018, 04:43:59 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/996301741468651520
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Tinga on May 15, 2018, 05:00:24 PM
Obviously theres something preventing a quick resolution to this.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 15, 2018, 05:06:50 PM
Why would Everton have to pay those cunts anything, we did nothing but enquire about his availability, they put a price on his head, we refused to pay it and moved onto our next target and appointed BFS. End of story, their form dipped but thatís fuck all to do with us
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 15, 2018, 06:14:53 PM
Hmmn...just read that Benfica have joined the race to sign Silva
Title: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on May 15, 2018, 06:31:30 PM
If it's Silva I'll get behind him. Questionable defensively but really good going forward.

Strange though, that again we seem unwilling or incapable of thinking outside the box. We just seem to be settling for what's in front of us rather than scouting and head hunting for the next big thing.

Martinez
Koeman
Allardyce
Silva
Walsh

Bolasie
Rooney
Schneiderlin
Walcott
Keane
Williams
Gueye
Sigurdson
Pickford
Martina

Sigurdson and Pickford aside, none have set the club alight. Just seems lazy to me, MOTD2 highlights scouts.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bluestevie on May 15, 2018, 06:48:32 PM
What is wrong with Watford? They sacked him but want us to pay the compo they owe him? They should have taken the money when we offered it back in November
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 15, 2018, 06:48:51 PM
Having a bit of eye candy in charge is a good thing, am I right girls... girls?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 15, 2018, 06:53:31 PM
https://twitter.com/IndyFootball/status/996345196311871489
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 15, 2018, 07:01:52 PM
@Rodenplav64 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3475)   vill probably answer himself, but what makes people think Silva is a good shout?

 His CV is hit and miss, experience in the prem not very impressive to put it politely. Got Hull relegated, was a flavour of the month at Watford, then lost his head completely when a bigger club had expressed interest in him and got sacked. Generally wasnít better or worse than Mazzarri or Flores. His defensive record in the prem is atrocious.

What else? He is not Allardyce, is young, has a fancy Portuguese name and is ďprogressiveĒ whatever that means. Oh, and there was some article in some paper about his philosophy so thatís probably enough to hire him.

And Iím not buying the arguments that Hull were shit and Watford defenders woeful, so itís not his fault. There a lots of managers who have done a better job in the lesser prem clubs than Everton (Dyche, Howe), in the Championship or Swiss or Bulgarian league but that doesnít mean we should offer them a job.
Iím not saying we should waste our time chasing unrealistic targets, but surely we can get something better than another ďPorto guyĒ?


First of all, can we please stop saying he got Hull relegated. He didn't. They were already in a very precarious position when he took-over and he made them a much better team.

They went down because the chairman refused to spend any money on players and trying to keep them in the premier league was a thankless task.

He was doing a great job at Watford before he had his head turned. Granted, it could be worrying at how things capitulated, but when you're managing a team with a history of sacking managers every 12 months, it's understandable that he pushed for the job here.

Then look at his work outside the premier league, in portugal and greece.

He took Estoril from 10th in the second division, to 4th in the premier league.

He then moved onto Lisbon where he won the cup, and was only sacked for not wearing the club suit.

He then moved on to Olympiacos where he broke a European record for consecutive wins, getting a very impressive result at the emirates in the process and left with an 80% win ratio.

From what I can see he's improved every team he's managed and instilled a mentality and way of playing suited to a team like Everton.

Fair enough if people don't rate him, but I do think it's important to do a little bit of research into a managers background before forming an opinion on them.

Some of the stuff about him is pretty lazy, especially the comparisons to Martinez and the relegating hull parts.

He's ideal for us in my opinion, and everything I want in a new manager.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 15, 2018, 07:24:14 PM
First of all, can we please stop saying he got Hull relegated. He didn't. They were already in a very precarious position when he took-over and he made them a much better team.

They went down because the chairman refused to spend any money on players and trying to keep them in the premier league was a thankless task.

He was doing a great job at Watford before he had his head turned. Granted, it could be worrying at how things capitulated, but when you're managing a team with a history of sacking managers every 12 months, it's understandable that he pushed for the job here.

Then look at his work outside the premier league, in portugal and greece.

He took Estoril from 10th in the second division, to 4th in the premier league.

He then moved onto Lisbon where he won the cup, and was only sacked for not wearing the club suit.

He then moved on to Olympiacos where he broke a European record for consecutive wins, getting a very impressive result at the emirates in the process and left with an 80% win ratio.

From what I can see he's improved every team he's managed and instilled a mentality and way of playing suited to a team like Everton.

Fair enough if people don't rate him, but I do think it's important to do a little bit of research into a managers background before forming an opinion on them.

Some of the stuff about him is pretty lazy, especially the comparisons to Martinez and the relegating hull parts.

He's ideal for us in my opinion, and everything I want in a new manager.



That my boy, is a great post
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 15, 2018, 07:32:10 PM
First of all, can we please stop saying he got Hull relegated. He didn't. They were already in a very precarious position when he took-over and he made them a much better team.

They went down because the chairman refused to spend any money on players and trying to keep them in the premier league was a thankless task.

He was doing a great job at Watford before he had his head turned. Granted, it could be worrying at how things capitulated, but when you're managing a team with a history of sacking managers every 12 months, it's understandable that he pushed for the job here.

Then look at his work outside the premier league, in portugal and greece.

He took Estoril from 10th in the second division, to 4th in the premier league.

He then moved onto Lisbon where he won the cup, and was only sacked for not wearing the club suit.

He then moved on to Olympiacos where he broke a European record for consecutive wins, getting a very impressive result at the emirates in the process and left with an 80% win ratio.

From what I can see he's improved every team he's managed and instilled a mentality and way of playing suited to a team like Everton.

Fair enough if people don't rate him, but I do think it's important to do a little bit of research into a managers background before forming an opinion on them.

Some of the stuff about him is pretty lazy, especially the comparisons to Martinez and the relegating hull parts.

He's ideal for us in my opinion, and everything I want in a new manager.



You had me at "First"

Everyone should find the Ryan Mason quotes about Silva, he is a proper stickler for detail, studies football 24/7, analyses opponents, even their throw ins. It's an excellent read.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 15, 2018, 07:34:28 PM
Iím not against silva but his work in England hasnít been overly great. Relegated and sacked in 2 6 month jobs
No he ďdidnít get Hull relegatedĒ but many a manager has saved a team in a shitty position
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2018, 07:38:19 PM
Still cautious about Silva, but if it's him, I'll give him my backing like I did for Sam (which lasted a few weeks I admit). Every manager deserves a chance.

Can't say it will be the most inspiring or exciting appointment, but it was years since we did make an exciting managerial appointment.

Can't see what the delay in hiring would be though. Watford sacked him. They didn't have to.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2018, 07:41:54 PM
First of all, can we please stop saying he got Hull relegated. He didn't. They were already in a very precarious position when he took-over and he made them a much better team.

They went down because the chairman refused to spend any money on players and trying to keep them in the premier league was a thankless task.

He was doing a great job at Watford before he had his head turned. Granted, it could be worrying at how things capitulated, but when you're managing a team with a history of sacking managers every 12 months, it's understandable that he pushed for the job here.

Then look at his work outside the premier league, in portugal and greece.

He took Estoril from 10th in the second division, to 4th in the premier league.

He then moved onto Lisbon where he won the cup, and was only sacked for not wearing the club suit.

He then moved on to Olympiacos where he broke a European record for consecutive wins, getting a very impressive result at the emirates in the process and left with an 80% win ratio.

From what I can see he's improved every team he's managed and instilled a mentality and way of playing suited to a team like Everton.

Fair enough if people don't rate him, but I do think it's important to do a little bit of research into a managers background before forming an opinion on them.

Some of the stuff about him is pretty lazy, especially the comparisons to Martinez and the relegating hull parts.

He's ideal for us in my opinion, and everything I want in a new manager.



He is my 2nd choice, and you make a compelling argument as to why he should be #1.  Will be quite excited if it comes to pass.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 15, 2018, 07:44:07 PM
I wouldn't expect an appointment soon like, reports are suggesting that although Silva is the "preferred choice", he isn't the only choice.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 15, 2018, 07:51:45 PM
First of all, can we please stop saying he got Hull relegated. He didn't. They were already in a very precarious position when he took-over and he made them a much better team.

They went down because the chairman refused to spend any money on players and trying to keep them in the premier league was a thankless task.

He was doing a great job at Watford before he had his head turned. Granted, it could be worrying at how things capitulated, but when you're managing a team with a history of sacking managers every 12 months, it's understandable that he pushed for the job here.

Then look at his work outside the premier league, in portugal and greece.

He took Estoril from 10th in the second division, to 4th in the premier league.

He then moved onto Lisbon where he won the cup, and was only sacked for not wearing the club suit.

He then moved on to Olympiacos where he broke a European record for consecutive wins, getting a very impressive result at the emirates in the process and left with an 80% win ratio.

From what I can see he's improved every team he's managed and instilled a mentality and way of playing suited to a team like Everton.

Fair enough if people don't rate him, but I do think it's important to do a little bit of research into a managers background before forming an opinion on them.

Some of the stuff about him is pretty lazy, especially the comparisons to Martinez and the relegating hull parts.

He's ideal for us in my opinion, and everything I want in a new manager.



Repeating that he didn't got Hull relegated is as much "lazy" as  comparisons to Martinez. No one is saying it's his fault, at least not me, I'm just saying it's not enough and we as a club should show some ambition for a change.  We are not fucking Hull.
We are going round in circles, but Darren Moore took over West Brom when they there already relegated and improved them massively, Carvalhal did the same at Swansea and did a great job at Sheffield Wednesday. Why are we not considering them as serious candidates? Right, because improving Hull, Swansea and Sheffield Wednesday is not enough.

And sorry for not getting excited about his achievements in the Portugal second division and Greece one team league, but it's quite annoying to read that people who don't rate him should do "a little bit of research". I did, thank you, and have committed to memory all the stories about him not wearing a suit, etc.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2018, 07:56:33 PM
Repeating that he didn't got Hull relegated is as much "lazy" as  comparisons to Martinez. No one is saying it's his fault, at least not me, I'm just saying it's not enough and we as a club should show some ambition for a change.  We are not fucking Hull.
We are going round in circles, but Darren Moore took over West Brom when they there already relegated and improved them massively, Carvalhal did the same at Swansea and did a great job at Sheffield Wednesday. Why are we not considering them as serious candidates? Right, because improving Hull, Swansea and Sheffield Wednesday is not enough.

And sorry for not getting excited about his achievements in the Portugal second division and Greece one team league, but it's quite annoying to read that people who don't rate him should do "a little bit of research". I did, thank you, and have committed to memory all the stories about him not wearing a suit, etc.

If he is appointed, are you willing to genuinely get behind him and give him a chance? Can't be arsed having rehashes of the Martinez stuff every time we lose a game or concede a goal.

Best thing about Silva for me, apart from attention to detail, is that he doesn't care about other's reputations. He'll prepare like fuck (unlike Martinez), but he thinks he can get results against richer/better teams. That's an absolute must for the next Everton manager, if we are going to achieve something more.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 15, 2018, 08:10:56 PM
Repeating that he didn't got Hull relegated is as much "lazy" as  comparisons to Martinez. No one is saying it's his fault, at least not me, I'm just saying it's not enough and we as a club should show some ambition for a change.  We are not fucking Hull.
We are going round in circles, but Darren Moore took over West Brom when they there already relegated and improved them massively, Carvalhal did the same at Swansea and did a great job at Sheffield Wednesday. Why are we not considering them as serious candidates? Right, because improving Hull, Swansea and Sheffield Wednesday is not enough.

And sorry for not getting excited about his achievements in the Portugal second division and Greece one team league, but it's quite annoying to read that people who don't rate him should do "a little bit of research". I did, thank you, and have committed to memory all the stories about him not wearing a suit, etc.

How are we going round in circles?

I've just responded to your post asking what makes people excited about silva and listed his achievements as manager.

I personally find your counter arguments very weak here.

The Moore and carvahal points don't bear any relevance to the discussion, and your dismissiveness of his achievements abroad is quite ignorant.

I'm not saying anyone who doesn't rate him should do their research. I'm saying people should read into him a bit more before they form an opinion based on hull getting relegated.

I agree that maybe we should be aiming higher, silva wasn't my first choice. But I don't want another circus where names clearly out of our reach are being mentioned.

Moshiri is obviously hot on Silva and taking into account his carrer thus far I think he's a very good fit.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on May 15, 2018, 08:11:25 PM
couldn't get a bet on Silva at Paddypower for months, I see they've opened the book today online and installed him at 4/11 fav, the cunts
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 15, 2018, 08:12:12 PM
If he is appointed, are you willing to genuinely get behind him and give him a chance? Can't be arsed having rehashes of the Martinez stuff every time we lose a game or concede a goal.


I've never compared him to Martinez (mentioned once, indirectly, to be precise) and are not going to do it in the future.
As for getting behind the manager, I'm not quite sure what it is really. I don't think that my (or any other random bloke's) rants in the message board can help the manager or ruin his career.
But no, I will not bombard the forum with "I told you so" posts after a few poor results. At least I'll try :)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 15, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
I've never compared him to Martinez (mentioned once, indirectly, to be precise) and are not going to do it in the future.
As for getting behind the manager, I'm not quite sure what it is really. I don't think that my (or any other random bloke's) rants in the message board can help the manager or ruin his career.
But no, I will not bombard the forum with "I told you so" posts after a few poor results. At least I'll try :)


Those last two statements arenít true, are they 😁
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2018, 08:18:23 PM
I've never compared him to Martinez (mentioned once, indirectly, to be precise) and are not going to do it in the future.
As for getting behind the manager, I'm not quite sure what it is really. I don't think that my (or any other random bloke's) rants in the message board can help the manager or ruin his career.
But no, I will not bombard the forum with "I told you so" posts after a few poor results. At least I'll try :)


At the risk of sounding like a Jewish-American comedian from the 70s, always with the defensiveness.

Relax. I'm not having a pop at you. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not suggesting you'll have any impact on anyone's career. But would you agree that perhaps we need to unite as a fanbase a bit more, and maybe be patient with the next fella (whoever it is, assuming it's not a massively divisive appointment), as long as we can see a clear plan for the future and some evidence of implementation of that plan as time passes.

I'm sure we're all fed up of new manager threads every summer.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Trowel on May 15, 2018, 08:18:25 PM
Everyone should find the Ryan Mason quotes about Silva, he is a proper stickler for detail, studies football 24/7, analyses opponents, even their throw ins. It's an excellent read.
Good shout, thanks:

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/ryan-mason-backing-marco-silva-to-move-hull-forward-35366487.html

Hull midfielder Ryan Mason believes the Premier League strugglers will improve under new head coach Marco Silva.

Club record summer signing Mason has been restored to the starting line-up in his preferred central midfield role in Silva's first two matches and revealed the Portuguese has already made big changes a week after replacing the sacked Mike Phelan.

"Yeah, a lot has changed, a hell of a lot actually," Mason told a press conference before Saturday's home league game against Bournemouth.

"I think he'll raise the standards. Personally, I think under this manager you can't cut any corners.

"In training he's there and on it and that's how he wants to go about it on the training pitch and in matches and that can only be good for us as a football team and as a club as well.

"I'm sure when we go into games everyone will know what they're doing and (be) very organised. "

Mason, who arrived from Tottenham for a reported £13million last summer, feels there are similarities between his former boss Mauricio Pochettino and the man appointed to keep Hull in the Premier League.

"Yes in a way. They've both got different styles, but at the same time there are some similarities," Mason said.

"They both want to play a high tempo game and I'm sure in the coming weeks, the longer the gaffer has with us the more you'll see of that."

Silva guided unfashionable Estoril to the top flight in Portugal and won the Portuguese Cup with Sporting Lisbon before steering Olympiacos to the Greek title last season with six games to spare.

"It's been very intense," Mason said. "He's out there, he's hands-on. It's sort of stop-start in training and explaining how he wants us to play in and out of possession.

"You can see he's young, he's passionate and he's excited and relishing this opportunity. He really wants to get his style and his philosophy across to us as soon as possible."
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 15, 2018, 08:26:03 PM
I think having the confidence to take on the top 6 instead of whimping out and parking the bus for 90 minutes is crucial.
There's no way you can go 90 minutes sat back against man city and co. They are too good.
Saying "fuck it, it was always going to be too hard to win against this team" for 12 games in the season is just not acceptable.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2018, 08:28:24 PM
100% agree that we need someone progressive, and it needs to be a slow build with a real foundation laid.  No rush jobs, and the fans need to provide the patient support required.

Don't hold the shite of the past few seasons (culminating the trainwreck of 2017-18) put the new on defense from Day 1.  Rather, appreciate the fresh approach to project building.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on May 15, 2018, 08:43:03 PM
I know a fair few, if not most, seem to be falling into the wanting Silva camp. I would be cautiously happy with Silva from my own personal point of view too. But, Unai Emery becoming available, is something the Mosh should be looking at pretty closely. Three Europa league wins on the trot is pretty special, and as far as I can gather, Arsenal haven't made much noise about signing him up. He could be a top appointment if we really want to make waves next season :)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 15, 2018, 08:46:11 PM
Lots of "I don't rate Silva" or "he's not what we need" but no alternatives being suggested by these people.

So if Silva won't do for you, who does?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2018, 08:46:24 PM
I know a fair few, if not most, seem to be falling into the wanting Silva camp. I would be cautiously happy with Silva from my own personal point of view too. But, Unai Emery becoming available, is something the Mosh should be looking at pretty closely. Three Europa league wins on the trot is pretty special, and as far as I can gather, Arsenal haven't made much noise about signing him up. He could be a top appointment if we really want to make waves next season :)

Aye. Although his record outside of Spain (and away from Monchi) gives me a bit of concern. Not saying that should rule him out at all. He clearly has pedigree.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluenose 91 on May 15, 2018, 08:49:16 PM
Definitely slagged him off in the past and compared him to Martinez many a time but like the big fickle hypocrite I am I've done a full 180 and am now fully in for Big Marco.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on May 15, 2018, 08:59:31 PM
Aye. Although his record outside of Spain (and away from Monchi) gives me a bit of concern. Not saying that should rule him out at all. He clearly has pedigree.



It would be spot on to win a cup and get into the top six next year. It's certainly not beyond managers of Emery's experience. But as you point out, there are always risks. I feel, Silva is a bigger risk than Emery, just by looking at their statistical successes up to now. Emery's been in with the big boys though, and did pretty well. Obviously, there's mileage in what you're saying about his time away from Monchi. The only way of finding out is by giving the guy the job. I would go, Emery, Fonseca, Silva. As a post script, maybe we should have a look at Juan Carlos Osorio. He's interested in coming to the premier. The problem with Osorio is, he has heavy duty world cup commitments closed season.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: American Evertonian on May 15, 2018, 09:06:43 PM
I agree itís important but not as important as the right managerial appointment.

Of course, but I think the DoF needs to be in place first so he can help interview the candidates and figure out who he can work with.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: American Evertonian on May 15, 2018, 09:10:27 PM
Lots of "I don't rate Silva" or "he's not what we need" but no alternatives being suggested by these people.

So if Silva won't do for you, who does?

Emery, Fonseca, Nagelsmann, or Tedesco.

I just hope we don't pull the trigger without a thorough interview process. Some good managers out there.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 15, 2018, 09:32:07 PM
If they're not compatible both roles become compromised at best and redundant at worst.
Of course.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: D15TIN on May 15, 2018, 09:53:23 PM
Emery, Fonseca, Nagelsmann, or Tedesco.

I just hope we don't pull the trigger without a thorough interview process. Some good managers out there.
Silvas past achievements are arguably as good as/if not better than Fonsecas, think he's getting a tough time from some of our fans already - he did well at Hull, he had Watford as high as 4th (they where 17th last season) before we got involved with him. I think he could be very good -GIVEN TIME
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: American Evertonian on May 15, 2018, 09:56:31 PM
Silvas past achievements are arguably as good as/if not better than Fonsecas, think he's getting a tough time from some of our fans already - he did well at Hull, he had Watford as high as 4th (they where 17th last season) before we got involved with him. I think he could be very good -GIVEN TIME

Im not sayinf he would be a bad hire. I am just saying we need to dp our due diligence in the search and interview multiple candidates. Not just hire the first manager we interview. How do we know he is the best fit for us if we donít speak to anyone else?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 15, 2018, 09:59:12 PM
Im not sayinf he would be a bad hire. I am just saying we need to dp our due diligence in the search and interview multiple candidates. Not just hire the first manager we interview. How do we know he is the best fit for us if we donít speak to anyone else?
In the same way we knew Koeman was a great fit to work with Walsh. Moshiri gambled and failed, on both accounts.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 15, 2018, 10:04:20 PM
Don't think an interview process is really necessary
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 15, 2018, 10:18:22 PM
Don't think an interview process is really necessary

No I wouldnít have thought it was how itís done at the top end. These managers are as good as headhunted. You canít then ask them to interview for the job. Least I wouldnít think itís how it works
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 15, 2018, 10:20:43 PM
At the risk of sounding like a Jewish-American comedian from the 70s, always with the defensiveness.

Relax. I'm not having a pop at you. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not suggesting you'll have any impact on anyone's career. But would you agree that perhaps we need to unite as a fanbase a bit more, and maybe be patient with the next fella (whoever it is, assuming it's not a massively divisive appointment), as long as we can see a clear plan for the future and some evidence of implementation of that plan as time passes.

I'm sure we're all fed up of new manager threads every summer.

I'm perfectly calm and never thought you were having a pop at me.  It's strange you are suggesting that. Maybe it's my bad English?

Back on topic, I'm all for patience and fans' reunion, I just can't see the logic of this decision. It's another dull, unimaginative and unambitious choice. Another guy who "did the job" at a mediocre (not even mediocre to be fair) prem club. Martinez and Sam were famous for that. Koeman looks like a big statement in comparison. Will we ever look beyond Premier league?

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 15, 2018, 10:21:44 PM
Silvas past achievements are arguably as good as/if not better than Fonsecas

What?
Fonseca reached Champions League round of 16, beating Manchester City and Napoli, when Silva was struggling at Watford.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: D15TIN on May 15, 2018, 10:30:12 PM
What?
Fonseca reached Champions League round of 16, beating Manchester City and Napoli, when Silva was struggling at Watford.
Beat citys reserves **

Silva managed Olympiakos in the CL and beat arsenal, got their highest pts total and holds the European record for successive victories. Took Estoril to the top division and won manager of the year
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: School of Science on May 15, 2018, 10:36:58 PM
What?
Fonseca reached Champions League round of 16, beating Manchester City and Napoli, when Silva was struggling at Watford.

Luckily we don't have to worry about the Champions league do we. Not much difference between Silva and Fonseca imo, but both far better than big Sam.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: duncandisorderly on May 15, 2018, 10:37:19 PM
Not sure about Silva at all but would love Emery in. Maybe Arteta if not, ex blue & knows the league, would definitely be a gamble but it could pay off.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 15, 2018, 10:42:52 PM
I actually think silva is exactly the type we should be appointing id just maybe like someone with a little less risk attached


You have to question his record in Greece in much the same way as youíd question Rodgers record in Scotland and his record in this country is poor all be it with huge amounts of mitigation and plenty of good work if not good final outcomes

I think heís an exciting appointment but 1 with an awful lot of risk. He could very well be the next big thing or he could be a bit useless and very disloyal

Iíd rather silva than Wenger or LVG. Theres really potential with him. Realistically he might be the best of his type we can get
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 15, 2018, 11:14:51 PM
No manager is without risk. Whoever it is needs to be able to work with the current squad. They will need to work with whoever the technical director will be, will have to work with the board.
Some managers have premiership experience, others do not.
It's stating the obvious but it's not all black and white
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 15, 2018, 11:17:02 PM
No manager is without risk. Whoever it is needs to be able to work with the current squad. They will need to work with whoever the technical director will be, will have to work with the board.
Some managers have premiership experience, others do not.
It's stating the obvious but it's not all black and white

I think if we are looking for someone who can work with the current squad we are looking for a miracle worker. Itís painfully limited
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 15, 2018, 11:21:44 PM
I think if we are looking for someone who can work with the current squad we are looking for a miracle worker. Itís painfully limited

Can't argue there. But there's no way a new manager will be able to buy 8 or 9 new players. 2 to 4 quality players maybe.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 16, 2018, 12:04:13 AM
I think the new manager should have the experience of rebuilding a defence and midfield, on his CV. Hopefully Brands will effectively oversee the rebuilding process, too.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 12:28:42 AM
Hey, getting out of bed in the morning is a fucking gamble.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Everton Mint on May 16, 2018, 12:40:11 AM
We need an enthusiastic manager with a proven record in the PL or other top league.

Silva isnt that.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 16, 2018, 12:41:25 AM
First of all, can we please stop saying he got Hull relegated. He didn't. They were already in a very precarious position when he took-over and he made them a much better team.

They went down because the chairman refused to spend any money on players and trying to keep them in the premier league was a thankless task.

He was doing a great job at Watford before he had his head turned. Granted, it could be worrying at how things capitulated, but when you're managing a team with a history of sacking managers every 12 months, it's understandable that he pushed for the job here.

Then look at his work outside the premier league, in portugal and greece.

He took Estoril from 10th in the second division, to 4th in the premier league.

He then moved onto Lisbon where he won the cup, and was only sacked for not wearing the club suit.

He then moved on to Olympiacos where he broke a European record for consecutive wins, getting a very impressive result at the emirates in the process and left with an 80% win ratio.

From what I can see he's improved every team he's managed and instilled a mentality and way of playing suited to a team like Everton.

Fair enough if people don't rate him, but I do think it's important to do a little bit of research into a managers background before forming an opinion on them.

Some of the stuff about him is pretty lazy, especially the comparisons to Martinez and the relegating hull parts.

He's ideal for us in my opinion, and everything I want in a new manager.



Before he went to Hull he wasn't on anyones fucking radar . We are giving him the job based on Hull and Watford and nothing else . If anything its Moshiri who is the lazy one for not looking further than the end of his nose Koeman , Allardyce and now Silva ( if he signs ) . Portugal and Greece are piss poor leagues and a result at the Emirates is on Shaun Dyches CV as well I think . It isn't the worse signing out there but it just smacks of a lack of any real ambition given the shit Moshiri has come out with . He is certainly on a different planet to Simeone . Everton all over for me but hey ho we will see how many 2nd rate Brazilian/Portuguese half season wonders he can sign . Hopefully not Richarlason as he is no better than Bolasie .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: boothill on May 16, 2018, 12:44:59 AM
Pellegrini for me, cool arl codger he is
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 16, 2018, 12:46:06 AM
We need an enthusiastic manager with a proven record in the PL or other top league.

Silva isnt that.

Who would you suggest? Proven prem managers are currently employed with proven teams mate. Not being shitty just realistic.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: boothill on May 16, 2018, 12:52:26 AM
The more i look at it, the more i lean to pellegrini, i feel he will get more respect from the squad, and gives that been there done that type of confidence, failing that,unai emery, then fonseca and then silva, but thats just my opinion
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 16, 2018, 12:56:35 AM
Before he went to Hull he wasn't on anyones fucking radar . We are giving him the job based on Hull and Watford and nothing else . If anything its Moshiri who is the lazy one for not looking further than the end of his nose Koeman , Allardyce and now Silva ( if he signs ) . Portugal and Greece are piss poor leagues and a result at the Emirates is on Shaun Dyches CV as well I think . It isn't the worse signing out there but it just smacks of a lack of any real ambition given the shit Moshiri has come out with . He is certainly on a different planet to Simeone . Everton all over for me but hey ho we will see how many 2nd rate Brazilian/Portuguese half season wonders he can sign . Hopefully not Richarlason as he is no better than Bolasie .

Personally think you're being extremely dismissive towards his career and what he has achieved so far.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 01:11:26 AM
I think a lot of the criticism comes down to "prove it at a level which would mean you have no incentive to take the Everton job."
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Robber Rodwell on May 16, 2018, 01:21:14 AM
http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/02/16/tactical-philosophy-marco-silva/

Great article about Silva.  Sign him up, the he can bring Carvalho and Sam Clucas with him lol
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bluestevie on May 16, 2018, 01:33:04 AM
Before he went to Hull he wasn't on anyones fucking radar . We are giving him the job based on Hull and Watford and nothing else . If anything its Moshiri who is the lazy one for not looking further than the end of his nose Koeman , Allardyce and now Silva ( if he signs ) . Portugal and Greece are piss poor leagues and a result at the Emirates is on Shaun Dyches CV as well I think . It isn't the worse signing out there but it just smacks of a lack of any real ambition given the shit Moshiri has come out with . He is certainly on a different planet to Simeone . Everton all over for me but hey ho we will see how many 2nd rate Brazilian/Portuguese half season wonders he can sign . Hopefully not Richarlason as he is no better than Bolasie .

If Portugal and Greece are piss poor then what does that make the Ukrainian League?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 16, 2018, 01:35:14 AM
Got a feeling this guy will win us a cup yno.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Tofifee on May 16, 2018, 01:38:59 AM
Latest reports saying he will snub us for Leicester

Yes blues, thats where we are now

I would like to have seen us move for Hughton, but of what is out there, Eddie Howe for me.
Has a smack of Moyes II off him

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 16, 2018, 01:40:38 AM
Latest reports saying he will snub us for Leicester

Yes blues, thats where we are now

I would like to have seen us move for Hughton, but of what is out there, Eddie Howe for me.
Has a smack of Moyes II off him



Daily Star. Bollocks
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bluestevie on May 16, 2018, 01:41:12 AM
Latest reports saying he will snub us for Leicester

Yes blues, thats where we are now

I would like to have seen us move for Hughton, but of what is out there, Eddie Howe for me.
Has a smack of Moyes II off him



Whatever you've been taking, stop it right now
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2018, 01:44:06 AM
Just read that since 1995, Oldham athletic are the only team other than us to have never  won anything.... Be it a cup, league or promotion

Surely that can't be true.... Can it?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 16, 2018, 01:44:14 AM
Latest reports saying he will snub us for Leicester

Yes blues, thats where we are now

I would like to have seen us move for Hughton, but of what is out there, Eddie Howe for me.
Has a smack of Moyes II off him



What reports?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mac934 on May 16, 2018, 01:46:07 AM
Howe has done a great job at Bournemouth. Not so sure he's what we need at this time. Seems too 'nice'. Need a hard taskmaster type who tells it as it should be and demanding of his players.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2018, 01:47:21 AM
I think the new manager should have the experience of rebuilding a defence and midfield, on his CV. Hopefully Brands will effectively oversee the rebuilding process, too.

Both player and manager tenures are too short these days for the long term rebuilding projects.

Managers have to come in, buy one maybe two players for that area and then make use of the players currently there.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mac934 on May 16, 2018, 01:50:46 AM
Just read that since 1995, Oldham athletic are the only team other than us to have never  won anything.... Be it a cup, league or promotion

Surely that can't be true.... Can it?
No I can't believe that either. Who's the stato's amongst us with the good info then?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 16, 2018, 01:51:42 AM
What reports?

The gospel that is this shiterag

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/702890/Marco-Silva-Leicester-Everton-news-gossip
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 01:55:29 AM
Iím not that arsed if he did go to Leicester thereís plenty of good managers around Europe who we could hopefully tempt
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 16, 2018, 01:57:14 AM
Iím not that arsed if he did go to Leicester thereís plenty of good managers around Europe who we could hopefully tempt

Could your heart cope with a three month search again?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2018, 01:58:38 AM
Just read that since 1995, Oldham athletic are the only team other than us to have never  won anything.... Be it a cup, league or promotion

Surely that can't be true.... Can it?

Promotion isnít any different than a prem team qualifying for Europe (in that thereís no promotion in the prem).
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2018, 02:02:26 AM
Promotion isn't any different than a prem team qualifying for Europe (in that there's no promotion in the prem).
Yeah true that
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 02:02:44 AM
Could your heart cope with a three month search again?

No not really but itís what I expect from us
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on May 16, 2018, 02:03:15 AM
The Star is quoting bookies and their odds. That's hardly ITK from anyone of any stature where exclusives are concerned.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 02:08:52 AM
Current odds on bet victor 1/4 silva, 5/1 Fonseca and 8/1 LVG, then loads in at 25/1 like arteta, viera and Wenger
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 16, 2018, 02:13:12 AM
Current odds on bet victor 1/4 silva, 5/1 Fonseca and 8/1 LVG, then loads in at 25/1 like arteta, viera and Wenger

LVG would be about as bad as it possibly could be
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 02:14:06 AM
LVG would be about as bad as it possibly could be

Totally agree
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 16, 2018, 02:14:10 AM
Nagelsmann.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2018, 02:15:27 AM
Nagelsmann.

Think the club stated he was staying today.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 16, 2018, 02:18:26 AM
LVG would be about as bad as it possibly could be

Smashed it when he worked with Brands though.

Wouldn't be the worst shout.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 16, 2018, 02:19:23 AM
Think the club stated he was staying today.

Deffo off then.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2018, 02:20:09 AM
Smashed it when he worked with Brands though.

Wouldn't be the worst shout.

I think itís more the lack of dynamism in his approach.

We know from large parts of RMís last two years that slow possession doesnít go down well.

We need fast transitions.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 16, 2018, 02:20:20 AM
Personally think you're being extremely dismissive towards his career and what he has achieved so far.
Iím respectful of what heís achieved but the Estoril job aside, heís not put a side together. Heís just inherited teams and whilst he has generally improved them, he hasnít stuck around long enough to develop players or oversee a squad overhaul.

I know weíre all keen to usher in a new, attack minded manager but letís not forget we had one of the worst defences in the league last season. Has he got experience of constructing a defensive unit (one that will/should have at least 2 players that arenít even at the club yet)?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2018, 02:29:38 AM
Fonseca been wellied in todsy like
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 16, 2018, 02:33:14 AM
Iím respectful of what heís achieved but the Estoril job aside, heís not put a side together. Heís just inherited teams and whilst he has generally improved them, he hasnít stuck around long enough to develop players or oversee a squad overhaul.

I know weíre all keen to usher in a new, attack minded manager but letís not forget we had one of the worst defences in the league last season. Has he got experience of constructing a defensive unit (one that will/should have at least 2 players that arenít even at the club yet)?

That's where fonseca probably has the edge.

He's built a very good team at shaktar, whereas Silva doesn't seem to have that on his CV.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2018, 02:35:46 AM
That's where fonseca probably has the edge.

He's built a very good team at shaktar, whereas Silva doesn't seem to have that on his CV.

Werenít they decent under Lucescu?

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2018, 02:36:52 AM
Fonseca been wellied in todsy like

Our manager market is pretty small though to be fair.

Thatís why people like Neil Lennon always end up as a front runner, as someone lashes 50p on him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 02:46:06 AM
Fonseca has won his second league in a row and won the domestic cup beating kiev. Great run in champions league this year as well...silva got the sack.
These are things that happened SINCE we enquired about silva earlier.
It must have brought one or two red flags for silva's  appointment.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 02:48:24 AM
If you were a very decent footballer. (Probably not a demand-champions-league level)
But certainly with decent clubs interested in you, would you be more tempted to play for silva or fonseca you think?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Juanito on May 16, 2018, 02:49:44 AM
That's where fonseca probably has the edge.

He's built a very good team at shaktar, whereas Silva doesn't seem to have that on his CV.

Shakhtar are the team in the Ukraine though and have the biggest budget and best players. He is working with Taison, Bernard, Fred. Silva has made average players better. Or talent players play with purpose a la Richarlson, who has looked lost without him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 02:52:12 AM
Werenít they decent under Lucescu?



Think theyíve won there league 11 times in last 18 years or so, so they obviously dominate their league
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 02:52:38 AM
Isn't Bernard on a free now? If he followed fonseca it would be a no brainer decision
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 03:04:50 AM
If Portugal and Greece are piss poor then what does that make the Ukrainian League?

Ukraine not weak!!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 03:05:46 AM
Well who else other than Shakhtar are good teams
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 03:09:57 AM
'twas just a Seinfeld reference
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 03:11:59 AM
Sorry bud 😆
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: NomadskiEFC on May 16, 2018, 03:18:00 AM
Iíd take Fonseca over Silva. My gut feeling is Silva would be an extremely short term manager for us. We might even end up with Sam back!

:O
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Makis on May 16, 2018, 03:20:31 AM
Fonseca did inherit a good team. It was a big task to follow Lucescu and he has succeeded, but it's very different from the situation Everton is at.

I don't think there's that much between these two to choose from. Fonseca is not necessarily the better choice. Both seem like managers their players like, both are tactically good and both work hard. And while some look at Silva's many clubs, same can be said about Fonseca, his two years at Shaktar is his longest stint at one club.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 03:23:35 AM
Fonseca did inherit a good team. It was a big task to follow Lucescu and he has succeeded, but it's very different from the situation Everton is at.

I don't think there's that much between these two to choose from. Fonseca is not necessarily the better choice. Both seem like managers their players like, both are tactically good and both work hard. And while some look at Silva's many clubs, same can be said about Fonseca, his two years at Shaktar is his longest stint at one club.

I think we need to forget about the longevity factor when appointing a new manager itís just part of the modern game, managers and players come and go far more frequently
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: stirlingblue on May 16, 2018, 03:28:16 AM
Just read the top comments on the BBC article about us, the attitude from other fans seems to be that 8th is about all weíre good for and Allardyce did a good job.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44121983

Are we being naive?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 03:29:18 AM
It is all weíre good for with allardyce the table doesnít lie
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 16, 2018, 03:36:17 AM
I think we need to forget about the longevity factor when appointing a new manager it's just part of the modern game, managers and players come and go far more frequently
But likewise, Silva canít come in and say ĎIíll just stick with Baines and Jags - they know what theyíre doing, I can trust them, Iíll probably be off next seasoní.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 03:38:04 AM
Just read the top comments on the BBC article about us, the attitude from other fans seems to be that 8th is about all weíre good for and Allardyce did a good job.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44121983

Are we being naive?

No, they're being arseholes.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2018, 03:51:07 AM
Just read the top comments on the BBC article about us, the attitude from other fans seems to be that 8th is about all we're good for and Allardyce did a good job.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44121983

Are we being naive?
No we are not
We should be better than Burnley
Are arsenal so far away from us?
Did Allardyce do a good job? Did he show us a way, a path forward? No he never so all them fans who see us once a week on motd for 3 mins can get to fuck
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 03:59:37 AM
No we are not
We should be better than Burnley
Are arsenal so far away from us?
Did Allardyce do a good job? Did he show us a way, a path forward? No he never so all them fans who see us once a week on motd for 3 mins can get to fuck

The simplest impartial way to answer - shoe on the other foot/market.  Any of these "tsk-tsk" folks willing to have Allardyce coach THEIR beloved side?  Will there be a line of offers in Everton's weight class or better queueing up to throw themselves at Sam's feet?

Everybody knows the answer to that is "fuck no" so you know they are being disingenuous.  Tell them to stick it up their fuckhole (should you meet one in person).
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 04:23:52 AM
Just read the top comments on the BBC article about us, the attitude from other fans seems to be that 8th is about all weíre good for and Allardyce did a good job.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44121983

Are we being naive?

Not one of those who commented would have Allardyce at their team, fuckwits
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 04:27:16 AM
Dunno why you guys take so much notice of all of these opinions
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2018, 04:43:51 AM
Talk of points deduction over silva

https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/996504568715530240?s=19
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 16, 2018, 04:44:15 AM
Telegraph running with a point deduction story if we appoint Silva and are in discussions with Watford to try and avoid. Got to be bullshit
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 04:46:01 AM
Why would we get a points deduction thatís got to be bollocks
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 16, 2018, 04:51:27 AM
We really should be ready to appoint someone soon as Allardyce is sacked.

Looks like yet another circus is approaching.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 16, 2018, 04:55:35 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/15/everton-will-hold-talks-watford-avoid-possible-points-deduction/

What an utter farce.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 04:59:00 AM
FFS, why us eh, nothing ever goes smoothly for us does it
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 16, 2018, 05:00:27 AM
Remember when the Shite tapped up VVD? They just had to apologise didn't they?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 05:13:16 AM
Quite right with the 'only us' comment.
Never easy is it?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 05:13:50 AM
Just get fonseca in. He's free
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 05:24:42 AM
Remember when the Shite tapped up VVD? They just had to apologise didn't they?

There's "rules for United and the Shite" and then everyone else.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Tony Clifton on May 16, 2018, 05:25:46 AM
Go home Marco lad, nothing to see here.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 16, 2018, 05:41:53 AM
Just read that since 1995, Oldham athletic are the only team other than us to have never  won anything.... Be it a cup, league or promotion

Surely that can't be true.... Can it?

With our derby record as well I would think weíve probably had the fewest Ďgreat daysí out of anyone also.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 16, 2018, 05:43:08 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/15/everton-will-hold-talks-watford-avoid-possible-points-deduction/

What an utter farce.

Points deduction?? 😂

Oh my god what is wrong with us
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 05:47:23 AM
Fair to say Watford believe there were illegal tapping up motions involving silva and us. Presumably why they won't pay him compensation (breached his contract)
That's why he's involved the authorities to claim money owed to him.
Obviously a very sore subject for Watford.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: bluestevie on May 16, 2018, 05:49:56 AM
Points deduction?? 😂

Oh my god what is wrong with us

Wrong with us? What is wrong with Watford ffs, we did everything by the book, we made offers and they rejected and priced out Silva so we walked away then they sacked him anyway blaming us not so subtly for their loss of form. Funny how that didn't happen to us when United came calling for Moyes in 2013 isn't it?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 05:52:49 AM
Given half a chance Watford will be happy to drag this out for weeks if not months. Makes no odds to them.
Think mosh is gonna have to pull out the cheque book if he wants silva in
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on May 16, 2018, 05:54:44 AM
That 12 million compensation mentioned in the article was only to compensate them losing their manager at the time. They sacked him. It's hardly Evertons fault. Everything Watford are saying, is "what if"? This is aimed at getting themselves a payoff. Hindsight is their problem. I'm sure Moshiri's legal representatives are top level silks, and I can't see us getting fleeced for 12 mill, as this article has suggested.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 05:57:33 AM
Fucking disgraceful if we get a points deduction considering all the stuff The Shite have got away with over the years; indeed, when they caused Heysel every other English club suffered as well.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 16, 2018, 05:59:18 AM
This isn't that big a deal. There won't be any points deduction. That's just included in the article to make it sound sexier and more newsworthy. It even says that's a major extreme and it'd only be a fine, if anything at all.

We should just appoint him, fight our corner legally after that and take the minimum fine if we absolutely have to. Honestly think this isn't much of a big deal, and the club will have been aware of this situation for ages.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: themilkycoffees on May 16, 2018, 06:02:39 AM
Give this Championship club exactly what they deserve. Fuck all. That song they walk out to sounds familiar too.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Gash on May 16, 2018, 06:06:38 AM
Some proper stress heads on here.

They sacked him so he can go to whoever he wants to, they can't stop him earning a living especially as it appears they haven't even given him a pay off, any issues with compensation etc (it's unlikely there are any) can be sorted at a later date. Watford's owner changes managers like most people change their underwear, they're the last people who should take the moral high ground.

They turned down the money when they could have had it so they can't come wanting £12m compensation now when we offered about £15m at the time. We're not getting any points deducted and it's unlikely we'll need to pay anything other than minimal costs to get him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 06:42:56 AM
I donít believe we will get a points deduction, itís the very fact the press talk about it being a possibility so readily and predictably, whereas you know they wouldnít push that agenda if it was about the RS.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2018, 07:01:24 AM
I skipped 109 posts and now weíre getting points docked and a huge fine? Lol what the hell for? We didnít do anything wrong.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 16, 2018, 07:56:40 AM
People's heads falling off here. There won't be a points deduction FFS.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2018, 08:42:51 AM
If thereís any punishment to be handed out, I think weíve already served our time. 6 months of Allardyce is punishment enough.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2018, 12:44:05 PM
Everyone knows that players/ managers are tapped up before official approaches are made these days.

Id imagine itís usually something extreme if an issue is made about it, or more likely the general conduct involved breaching ďetiquetteĒ or whatever.

In this case we offered what was relatively massive compensation for a manager with less than two years left of a seemingly low paid (comparative to the compensation) contract (think it was £1.5m per year).

Absolutely no way this is anything other than a ticking off and weíll just appoint him if they continue to be a pain and sort things out behind closed doors.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 16, 2018, 12:48:49 PM
How boss will it be having a manager who doesnít fear the magnificent 7
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 16, 2018, 12:51:16 PM
Wrong with us? What is wrong with Watford ffs, we did everything by the book, we made offers and they rejected and priced out Silva so we walked away then they sacked him anyway blaming us not so subtly for their loss of form. Funny how that didn't happen to us when United came calling for Moyes in 2013 isn't it?

I mean more in a witches curse kinda way
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 01:07:11 PM
Watford first game of the season please
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 16, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
Watford first game of the season please
And then again last game as well, them needing 3 points at Goodison to stay up
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 01:09:56 PM
And then again last game as well, them needing 3 points at Goodison to stay up

Ooh that's naughty
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 16, 2018, 01:10:23 PM
Ooh that's naughty
But nice
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 01:11:29 PM
Make zcars our trademark, then ban them from using it, that'll teach them
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on May 16, 2018, 01:14:53 PM
And then again last game as well, them needing 3 points at Goodison to stay up

With Deeney scoring a last minute OG to give us the winner and relegate them.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 16, 2018, 01:21:09 PM
People's heads falling off here. There won't be a points deduction FFS.

I'm more concerned about this dragging on and becoming a bit of a circus.

Maybe Iam being a stress head, but having seen how we've conducted business under Moshiri my concerns are valid.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 16, 2018, 01:22:43 PM
With Deeney scoring a last minute OG to give us the winner and relegate them.
Then he misses an injury time penalty, superbly saved by the worlds most expensive goalie.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 01:54:36 PM
I'm more concerned about this dragging on and becoming a bit of a circus.

Maybe Iam being a stress head, but having seen how we've conducted business under Moshiri my concerns are valid.

Yep, sort is asap, if we can't sort then we walk away
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 16, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
I want fonz tbh but I can get on board with silva.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 02:04:57 PM
Fonseca was 10/1 yesterday, he's 13/8 now
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 16, 2018, 02:20:16 PM
After seeing this I hope it's Fonseca. Don't like the idea of giving Watford £12m compensation.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/15/everton-will-hold-talks-watford-avoid-possible-points-deduction/
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: fubarruk on May 16, 2018, 02:40:33 PM
After seeing this I hope it's Fonseca. Don't like the idea of giving Watford £12m compensation.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/15/everton-will-hold-talks-watford-avoid-possible-points-deduction/
There's no way we'll have to pay anything close to that sum.

Watford sacked him and have paid him nothing since, they're in no position to dictate who he can and can't talk to, or request compensation for someone who's no longer in their employment.

It'll be a slap on the wrists, Watford are takin the piss.

Tell them we want an extra 5 million for Cleverley as he had a couple of better games than expected... that's as ridiculous as they're being.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on May 16, 2018, 02:57:39 PM
I find the whole thing a little boring tbh, name me any club in the world that hasnt tapped up there current manager or future managers! Moyes even let his contract run down has he'd been tapped up, it happens all the time, its how you work out whether its worth pursuing.
I do think Watford will get compensation and thatll be the end of it, we had to pay Crystal Palace 2 million to have Sam so id expect it to be between 6 and 10 million and then we move on.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 16, 2018, 03:16:12 PM
Personally think you're being extremely dismissive towards his career and what he has achieved so far.



Not at all but I think he has in reality achieved very little . Look over Olympiakos 20 year stats/Managers and you have a Celtic managers CV /. If anything you are overblowing his achievements ( so far admittedly ) . Like I said , not the worse but meh .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 16, 2018, 03:21:19 PM
Hahah  lolol

They sacked him, they've got no real rights at all....

Why don't we claim 50m from them cos they lost to Burnley twice and cost us European football??
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 16, 2018, 03:21:58 PM
If Portugal and Greece are piss poor then what does that make the Ukrainian League?

That makes the 2 Portuguese candidates the same and neither my choice . I like Jokanovic and winning 50-60 Championship games with a very average squad of younger players is worth more than a Greek or Ukrainian title/cup any day . But he is a big risk as well so the only way to stop the argument between fans is for the Board to a bit more realistic in the short term and not create another farcical season for us .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 16, 2018, 03:30:09 PM
That makes the 2 Portuguese candidates the same and neither my choice . I like Jokanovic and winning 50-60 Championship games with a very average squad of younger players is worth more than a Greek or Ukrainian title/cup any day . But he is a big risk as well so the only way to stop the argument between fans is for the Board to a bit more realistic in the short term and not create another farcical season for us .

Jokanovic - 6 clubs in 5 years, barely stays anywhere for very long, no experience of any top leagues anywhere

Fairly easy to pick holes in everyone linked.....

I'm not going to be overly fussed and will support whoever gets given the job without the general hysterics and slating anyone with a different opinion
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 16, 2018, 03:37:53 PM
Hahah  lolol

They sacked him, they've got no real rights at all....

Why don't we claim 50m from them cos they lost to Burnley twice and cost us European football??
.....................you may laugh but Watford have taken this to the PL.  Regrettably ,Everton will need to pay compensation to shut them up or risk a points deduction. Unlikely it would happen but it would be so Everton.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dazfrancis on May 16, 2018, 03:38:21 PM
How the fuck can Watford sack Silva then expect compo when he moves to his next job.

I would have thought that by sacking him they waived any rights they had to compensation.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 16, 2018, 03:44:16 PM
Itís absolute nonsense.  Judge Judy style nonsense.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 03:51:24 PM
Itís absolute nonsense.  Judge Judy style nonsense.

It is, but as Ram says itís an extra circus we donít need, having just deflated Allardyceís big top, and with the madness of the World Cup and a shorter than usual transfer window to also navigate.
 
The talk of points deductions just add to the distracting farce, and the media love it, especially the RS-loving rags and stations.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 16, 2018, 04:18:29 PM
It is, but as Ram says itís an extra circus we donít need, having just deflated Allardyceís big top, and with the madness of the World Cup and a shorter than usual transfer window to also navigate.
 
The talk of points deductions just add to the distracting farce, and the media love it, especially the RS-loving rags and stations.
...................it needs sorting asap and Everton are taking it quite seriously by talking to Watford. It's going to cost the club a few quid to make it go away.
Anyway @sam of the south (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1686) at least you can relax now Sam's gone. I told you not to worry  8)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 04:22:39 PM
...................it needs sorting asap and Everton are taking it quite seriously by talking to Watford. It's going to cost the club a few quid to make it go away.
Anyway @sam of the south (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1686) at least you can relax now Sam's gone. I told you not to worry  8)

You told me, mate 👍🏼
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 16, 2018, 04:23:27 PM
Watford aren't just being mentalists here.

They thought we tapped him up over and above the normal "do you fancy it if we clear it with your bosses"
They were angry enough to turn away an eye-watering package (the size of which, to be honest, does testify to our guilt)
At that point Silva seemed to throw the towel in and there was dressing room rumours that he was just swinging the lead
They fired him BECAUSE he had his head turned and things had gone to shit

Word coming from them now indicates we had given assurances we would not be turning to him in the summer, which (they felt) would have further proven their point that we orchastrated all of this.

Now we have and they're still angry that we turned the head of their manager, had him turn to shit on purpose to engineer a move away, he then had the audacity to ask for payment for something he/we had engineered.

They may be acting differently to us (when we found out about United & Moyes), but that doesn't mean they are technically or morally wrong here.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 16, 2018, 04:27:28 PM
Jokanovic - 6 clubs in 5 years, barely stays anywhere for very long, no experience of any top leagues anywhere

Fairly easy to pick holes in everyone linked.....

I'm not going to be overly fussed and will support whoever gets given the job without the general hysterics and slating anyone with a different opinion

Yes he was sacked after getting Watford promoted . I agree you can pick holes in all the candidates . Jokanovic probably wouldn't fit with our set up as he is more hands on and wants a direct say in transfers . I will get behind Silva and his appointment won't eek the life out of me like Allardyces . I just think with a bit more effort we could do better . However if the changes carry on and remove most of those who have failed consistently it might make the new mans job a lot easier .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 04:28:02 PM
Tony Cottee being wheeled out as the token Sky Sports Evertonian.

He has said:

1. Koemanís Ďtotal footballí wasnít enough to appease Everton supporters  :shock:

2. Silva got Hull relegated and was sacked by Watford.

3. Didnít know a single other Manager linked to Everton, and asked the presenter who was high on the betting.

4. Sam was hard done by and Everton were getting relegated without him.

Well, with Ďfriendsí like that bellend who needs RS enemies.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 16, 2018, 04:29:27 PM
So this all indicates that heís joining Everton otherwise weíd just say heís not one of our targets to replace BFS so fuck off
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
Tony Cottee being wheeled out as the token Sky Sports Evertonian.

He has said:

1. Koemanís Ďtotal footballí wasnít enough to appease Everton supporters  :shock:

2. Silva got Hull relegated and was sacked by Watford.

3. Didnít know a single other Manager linked to Everton, and asked the presenter who was high on the betting.

4. Sam was hard done by and Everton were getting relegated without him.

Well, with Ďfriendsí like that bellend who needs RS enemies.

No surprise there really, Cottee has always been a little cunt, he was very vocal about getting Allardyce out of his beloved West Ham
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2018, 04:32:19 PM
Sounds like a new manager might be a month or so away given the Prof saying a new manager will be appointed this summer. Given summer doesnít start til 21st June it could be a frustrating time again.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 16, 2018, 04:46:21 PM
Tony Cottee being wheeled out as the token Sky Sports Evertonian.

He has said:

1. Koemanís Ďtotal footballí wasnít enough to appease Everton supporters  :shock:

2. Silva got Hull relegated and was sacked by Watford.

3. Didnít know a single other Manager linked to Everton, and asked the presenter who was high on the betting.

4. Sam was hard done by and Everton were getting relegated without him.

Well, with Ďfriendsí like that bellend who needs RS enemies.

Koeman total football?

What a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 16, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
I got through the season ticket waiting list last week and got an adult for me and 1 child to split between my 2 kids.
I did it with a heavy heart at the time.
Fucking made up now like.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 16, 2018, 04:51:45 PM
Looks like Silva is as keen on us as we are on him. It'd just be nice to have a manager that at least appears to genuinely want to be here, after Allardyce and Koeman. It's not a requisite but it's helpful.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 16, 2018, 04:54:54 PM
Heads falling off everywhere.

WATFORD

SACKED

SILVA

say it or read itís slowly and let it sink in.

WE

WONT

NEED

TO

PAY

COMPENSATION

OR

HAVE

POINTS

DEDUCTED

say it or read it slowly and let it sink in.

Pick your head up off the floor and chill the fuck out.

Fat Sam has left the building.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TrevorSteven on May 16, 2018, 05:03:27 PM
These days most rumours has something to it so to answer the topic title it probably be Marco Silva.

But I would hope we went for one of these candidates:

Arsene Wenger - Bit of a gamble as Arsenal never managed to get back to where they once were but maybe that is because of money and clubs like Man C, Man U and Chelsea more than because his football was outdated? He still made Jack Wilshere and Aaron Ramsey look like worldbeaters at times and always made the best out of young talents. If we would like entertaining football, flair, skills and players good on the ball he would for me be a perfect choice. His training methods and approach to the game would for certain make us look like a real entertaining football team and I would like that more than the Mourinho-kind-of-approach to the game. I would love to see Everton with the lacking flair and creativity it has had since the days of Trevor Steven and the 80s.

Julian Nagelsman - an exciting choice but also a gamble with regards to his age. Probably not a problem in Germany where you got much more disciplined players than the tattoo-marked brats of Premier League. Would he get the more experienced and older players respect? Anyway - probably one of the best choices we could make but may want to go to a much bigger club and Hoffenheim has already announced that he is gonna stay put.

Maurizio Sarri - Done a fantastic job at Napol, playing fantastic offensive football and manage to challenge Juve until the last days of the season. Plays a 4-3-3 with all top3 playing narrow to make space to wing backs (would suit Baines and Coleman) one holding CM and two attaccking ones. When loosing possession they press high and change formation to 4-4-2 and when on the backfoot defends narrow just allowing space in wide areas. This man is gold but why go from Napoli to Everton?

Simone Inzaghi - Could be possible to lure to Everton. Maybe a bit untested and lack experience but made wonders this season with Lazio and is a rising star. And who wouldnt love to see this kind of celebration?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on May 16, 2018, 05:13:01 PM
Heads falling off everywhere.

WATFORD

SACKED

SILVA

say it or read itís slowly and let it sink in.

WE

WONT

NEED

TO

PAY

COMPENSATION

OR

HAVE

POINTS

DEDUCTED

say it or read it slowly and let it sink in.

Pick your head up off the floor and chill the fuck out.

Fat Sam has left the building.

Sam wasnt working at Crystal Palace and had the England spell in between yet we still had to pay them compensation? There will be clauses galore within his contract, similar to what Sam had which stated he couldnt work for another Premiership club within a certain amount of time if leaving or being dismissed. Its their way of ensuring they get money back for terminating his contract and having to pay him compensation
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 16, 2018, 05:13:46 PM
I'm more concerned about this dragging on and becoming a bit of a circus.

Maybe Iam being a stress head, but having seen how we've conducted business under Moshiri my concerns are valid.

Nah, that's a fair concern I think
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 16, 2018, 05:17:07 PM
I mean more in a witches curse kinda way

Guardian football fan? ;)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 05:29:46 PM
Poking fun at fellow Evertonians for being worried, or showing passion, or admitting their vulnerability isnít necessary
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Goughie on May 16, 2018, 05:40:15 PM
Its Rafa for me! *runs and hides*

He has PL experience, experience of the transfer market, has been successful previously and could be tempted with a new project (with money). Has strong ties to the city, albeit the Red half; and his family still live there!

*please dont ban me!!*
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 16, 2018, 05:42:09 PM
I got through the season ticket waiting list last week and got an adult for me and 1 child to split between my 2 kids.
I did it with a heavy heart at the time.
Fucking made up now like.

Fortune favours the brave mate - hopefully, you, all the other fans and your kids will have loads to cheer about when attending the game.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 16, 2018, 05:45:09 PM
Its Rafa for me! *runs and hides*

He has PL experience, experience of the transfer market, has been successful previously and could be tempted with a new project (with money). Has strong ties to the city, albeit the Red half; and his family still live there!

*please dont ban me!!*

Kenwright won't have Rafa anywhere near the club, even if Rafa wanted the job (which he did, not that long ago).
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 16, 2018, 05:48:27 PM
Sam wasnt working at Crystal Palace and had the England spell in between yet we still had to pay them compensation? There will be clauses galore within his contract, similar to what Sam had which stated he couldnt work for another Premiership club within a certain amount of time if leaving or being dismissed. Its their way of ensuring they get money back for terminating his contract and having to pay him compensation

They absolutely canít claim compensation of his next club now theyíve sacked him. Only Watford and silva signed contracts. How can a third party possibly owe them money for hiring him now heís unemployed

Their only hope is proving we tapped him up and even then what compensation would they be due given it didnít actually work and he stayed there
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 16, 2018, 05:58:27 PM
Guardian football fan? ;)

Lol, I actually am and I listened to that one yesterday as Iíve been away a while and unable to access it.

Must have been in my subconscious
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on May 16, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
I got through the season ticket waiting list last week and got an adult for me and 1 child to split between my 2 kids.
I did it with a heavy heart at the time.
Fucking made up now like.



Top stuff. :woohoo:
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 06:04:10 PM
Reset the poll?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 16, 2018, 06:12:57 PM
These days most rumours has something to it so to answer the topic title it probably be Marco Silva.

But I would hope we went for one of these candidates:

Arsene Wenger - Bit of a gamble as Arsenal never managed to get back to where they once were but maybe that is because of money and clubs like Man C, Man U and Chelsea more than because his football was outdated? He still made Jack Wilshere and Aaron Ramsey look like worldbeaters at times and always made the best out of young talents. If we would like entertaining football, flair, skills and players good on the ball he would for me be a perfect choice. His training methods and approach to the game would for certain make us look like a real entertaining football team and I would like that more than the Mourinho-kind-of-approach to the game. I would love to see Everton with the lacking flair and creativity it has had since the days of Trevor Steven and the 80s.

Julian Nagelsman - an exciting choice but also a gamble with regards to his age. Probably not a problem in Germany where you got much more disciplined players than the tattoo-marked brats of Premier League. Would he get the more experienced and older players respect? Anyway - probably one of the best choices we could make but may want to go to a much bigger club and Hoffenheim has already announced that he is gonna stay put.

Maurizio Sarri - Done a fantastic job at Napol, playing fantastic offensive football and manage to challenge Juve until the last days of the season. Plays a 4-3-3 with all top3 playing narrow to make space to wing backs (would suit Baines and Coleman) one holding CM and two attaccking ones. When loosing possession they press high and change formation to 4-4-2 and when on the backfoot defends narrow just allowing space in wide areas. This man is gold but why go from Napoli to Everton?

Simone Inzaghi - Could be possible to lure to Everton. Maybe a bit untested and lack experience but made wonders this season with Lazio and is a rising star. And who wouldnt love to see this kind of celebration?


This is part of my issue with appointing Silva . He is nowhere near a top Manager and doesn't seem too highly regarded by anyone outside of Watford and Everton . There are any number of Managers out there who are on nowhere near what we paid Koeman and Allardyce . If you want to be a high profile club then you need a high profile Manager who can bring in high profile players . Otherwise its untried and untested and hope for the best .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: gr8nty on May 16, 2018, 06:13:14 PM
Raffa to be announced within the week . You heard it here first  :woohoo:
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 16, 2018, 06:15:21 PM
Raffa to be announced within the week . You heard it here first  :woohoo:
STOP playing with my delirium
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ravardo on May 16, 2018, 06:17:21 PM
Its Rafa for me! *runs and hides*

He has PL experience, experience of the transfer market, has been successful previously and could be tempted with a new project (with money). Has strong ties to the city, albeit the Red half; and his family still live there!

*please dont ban me!!*

Gather you also work for talksport!!!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Gary1878 on May 16, 2018, 06:19:44 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/16/wretched-football-sam-allardyce-everton-sack

Good article
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 16, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
Lol, I actually am and I listened to that one yesterday as Iíve been away a while and unable to access it.

Must have been in my subconscious


Belter of an 'argument' it was hahaha.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TrevorSteven on May 16, 2018, 06:28:32 PM
This is part of my issue with appointing Silva . He is nowhere near a top Manager and doesn't seem too highly regarded by anyone outside of Watford and Everton . There are any number of Managers out there who are on nowhere near what we paid Koeman and Allardyce . If you want to be a high profile club then you need a high profile Manager who can bring in high profile players . Otherwise its untried and untested and hope for the best .

My issue with Silva is the same. After 8 matches with impressive football - remember how they were outplaying Liverpool in the season opener but didnt get more than a draw I think - but that is not enough to say that he is special...

I understand your asking of a big name but for me managers like Ancelotti i.e dont think long-term. They know that without success they are gone and they know that the only way to get success is by managing a club that has all the infrastructure, money and squad to actually have a chance. Ancelotti is not a club builder and what we need is a club builder - that in a way exclude the biggest names. Only names of the most famous managers around today that actually develops a club would be Klopp and Simeone. I remember Ancelotti saying when they signed Martin Odegaard that he couldnt care less as he would never be a first-team player before he was somewhere else himself.

As we are not ready for fighting against the biggest team we need a manager that can build us into a position where we can have a crack with modern tactical approach, interest in developing players, has an eye for getting the best out of the qualities of the players he has available and with a great desire about becoming the best. With the exception of Wenger I think that my list has three good names that could fit that bill. Problem is - this kind of manager will always be a gamble - but could potentially be what Pochettino became for Tottenham.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 16, 2018, 06:32:36 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/16/wretched-football-sam-allardyce-everton-sack

Good article
Spot on the lot of it
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ross on May 16, 2018, 06:55:41 PM
.......incoming Moyes shout in 5,4,3..
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 07:08:39 PM
I'm more concerned about this dragging on and becoming a bit of a circus.

Maybe Iam being a stress head, but having seen how we've conducted business under Moshiri my concerns are valid.

After seeing how the Mason Holgate business went, I'm not ruling anything rotten out.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on May 16, 2018, 07:12:19 PM
One of the major positives for me if Silva does get the job is I think we'll see how good the likes of Lookman, Vlasic and even Klassen really are. Could see Lookman especially playing a key role in our attacking play, if nothing else im looking forward to seeing some decent attacking football.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 16, 2018, 07:13:35 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/16/wretched-football-sam-allardyce-everton-sack

Good article

Andy Hunter's boss. I think I love him a little bit.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on May 16, 2018, 07:21:16 PM
I'm happy he's gone. I know if we had kept him on he would have brought in some proper signings but... there's no doubt it would have been a first; if his footballing philosophies had shown anything other than limited scope. He wasn't liked by the fans in terms of personality and it would have only gone from bad to worse. It's the right decision in my book. BTW. I was one of the 13. But, that was purely for the poll and a bit of this. :evil:
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: MarcusFenix on May 16, 2018, 07:33:52 PM
Just put Talkshite on, damn my masochistic tendencies
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Koeman total football?

What a fucking idiot.

KTF is gonna rock you!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dchans on May 16, 2018, 07:53:35 PM
Wife reckons we should have Moyes now he's free.....

Tin hat at the ready!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: School of Science on May 16, 2018, 07:57:16 PM
Wife reckons we should have Moyes now he's free.....

Tin hat at the ready!

It's not what she told me !
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: kramer0 on May 16, 2018, 08:01:49 PM
Koeman total football?

What a fucking idiot.

Fascinating the way people project his playing career onto his management style.

I've said it many times before and I'm sure I'll say it again but Koeman isn't far off Moyes/Allardyce.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 16, 2018, 08:14:13 PM
I'd put Moyes above Allardyce and Koeman as a manager. I just think he needs a long time to build something, but if you give him it, and let him mould the club, he's a good manager. The way he had us playing at the end of his reign shouldn't be forgotten.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2018, 08:21:58 PM
I'd put Moyes above Allardyce and Koeman as a manager. I just think he needs a long time to build something, but if you give him it, and let him mould the club, he's a good manager. The way he had us playing at the end of his reign shouldn't be forgotten.

This is very true, though I'm not quite sure he has it in him anymore.  His fastball might be gone for good.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on May 16, 2018, 08:22:09 PM
Looks like Fonseca is staying at Shakhtar?

But, according to Portugese outlet O Jogo (via SportWitness ), Fonseca has rejected an offer from the Hammers to take over at the London Stadium.

The report claims that the Portugese manager has instead elected to stay at Shakhtar for two more years, with an announcement over a new deal expected in the coming days.

That could be a blow to Everton if confirmed, although there are believed to be multiple names on the club's shortlist.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 16, 2018, 08:22:50 PM
Fascinating the way people project his playing career onto his management style.

I've said it many times before and I'm sure I'll say it again but Koeman isn't far off Moyes/Allardyce.

I think heís the worst of the 3. Least you could maybe trust the other 2 with money for players.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 08:26:50 PM
Moyes lashed straight into the betting at 3/1
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: kramer0 on May 16, 2018, 08:28:30 PM
Moyes is absolutely the best of the three from a squad-building and staffing point of view.

I should have thrown the word "tactically" onto the end of my last post.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 16, 2018, 08:28:49 PM
Probably rubbish.

https://twitter.com/stevie1919/status/996719613827338241?s=20
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 08:29:41 PM
Looks like Fonseca is staying at Shakhtar?

But, according to Portugese outlet O Jogo (via SportWitness ), Fonseca has rejected an offer from the Hammers to take over at the London Stadium.

The report claims that the Portugese manager has instead elected to stay at Shakhtar for two more years, with an announcement over a new deal expected in the coming days.

That could be a blow to Everton if confirmed, although there are believed to be multiple names on the club's shortlist.

If that is true donít be surprised to see West Ham quickly appoint Silva and us to end up with Moyes ;)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 16, 2018, 08:32:30 PM
Looks like Fonseca is staying at Shakhtar?

But, according to Portugese outlet O Jogo (via SportWitness ), Fonseca has rejected an offer from the Hammers to take over at the London Stadium.

The report claims that the Portugese manager has instead elected to stay at Shakhtar for two more years, with an announcement over a new deal expected in the coming days.

That could be a blow to Everton if confirmed, although there are believed to be multiple names on the club's shortlist.

Fellas on the Echo podcast said we weren't that interested in Fonseca anymore. Not surprised he's not interested in the West Ham job.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 16, 2018, 08:33:28 PM
Every manager has a ceiling and Moyes' final few years with us were it. They were a good few years and it was the culmination of many years of an astute transfer policy but that was his pinnacle. His head was understandably turned but his limit was still far below United's acceptable level and he's been a bit lost since. No-one's fault, it's just what happens when you peak, there's only one way to go from there.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 08:50:26 PM
Here are a few quotes from the self-centred cockney bellend, who used to keep a detailed diary and scrapbook about every goal that he scored, from kids football all the way through to the end of his pro career


http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11374639/everton-should-not-replace-sam-allardyce-with-marco-silva-says-tony-cottee
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 16, 2018, 08:50:43 PM
Found this on another Clubís forum. If these stats are right you have to wonder if silva is the right choice

My impression of Silva is good, but I've been taking a look at a few stats and I've become a little more cautious.

Paul Clement and Marco Silva took over their respective clubs after 20 matches with Swansea on 15, Hull on 13 in 16/17. Swansea finished on 41 and survived, Hull went down with 34. A 2 point gap became 7. Now I would say that Swansea had a stronger squad but I'd have a hard time saying that Silva did the better job of the 2.


Swansea again from this season and Carvalhal took over on 13 points from 20, exactly the same as Silva did at Hull. Ended up on 33 instead of Silva's 34. A similar job.

At Watford:
Mazzari = 40 points from 38 = 1.05 points per game
Silva = 26 from 24, 1.08
Gracia = 15 from 14, 1.07

I don't think Everton would be interested in any of Clement, Carvalhal, Mazzari or Gracia. Silva hasn't definitively proved that he's better than any of them are in English football at least so it's more risky than I possibly first thought.

We can say he's better than Mike Phelan though!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 16, 2018, 08:58:24 PM
Found this on another Clubís forum. If these stats are right you have to wonder if silva is the right choice

My impression of Silva is good, but I've been taking a look at a few stats and I've become a little more cautious.

Paul Clement and Marco Silva took over their respective clubs after 20 matches with Swansea on 15, Hull on 13 in 16/17. Swansea finished on 41 and survived, Hull went down with 34. A 2 point gap became 7. Now I would say that Swansea had a stronger squad but I'd have a hard time saying that Silva did the better job of the 2.


Swansea again from this season and Carvalhal took over on 13 points from 20, exactly the same as Silva did at Hull. Ended up on 33 instead of Silva's 34. A similar job.

At Watford:
Mazzari = 40 points from 38 = 1.05 points per game
Silva = 26 from 24, 1.08
Gracia = 15 from 14, 1.07

I don't think Everton would be interested in any of Clement, Carvalhal, Mazzari or Gracia. Silva hasn't definitively proved that he's better than any of them are in English football at least so it's more risky than I possibly first thought.

We can say he's better than Mike Phelan though!


He took over a team with an 11% win record in Hull, and during his time it was a 37% win record, which would've been enough to keep them up comfortably. His only competent striker was Oumar Niasse. Have a look at the state of that Hull squad from 16/17. He resigned the job. They wanted to keep him in the Championship.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 09:03:03 PM
The biggest issue with silva is exactly what's being discussed here. How few bad results will it take before all this is thrown up in his face?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 16, 2018, 09:07:02 PM
The biggest issue with silva is exactly what's being discussed here. How few bad results will it take before all this is thrown up in his face?

Whoever it is will have to hit the ground running, it feels like. We're a dissatisfied bunch (with some justification in some ways, and probably a bit OTT in other ways).

It could really do with Professor Barrett-Baxendale or Moshiri coming out with a long, detailed statement when we appoint the new manager, talking about the plan, the direction, having some patience to build it etc.

Again, communication is vital and we don't do it very well. Fans will buy in and get on board with temporary setbacks, if they understand the bigger picture and understand the thinking going into that bigger picture.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on May 16, 2018, 09:18:38 PM
Silva still 4/11 with Paddypower

who's gonna lash 11K on to win 4K

go on the lads
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 09:19:45 PM
Whoever it is will have to hit the ground running, it feels like. We're a dissatisfied bunch (with some justification in some ways, and probably a bit OTT in other ways).

It could really do with Professor Barrett-Baxendale or Moshiri coming out with a long, detailed statement when we appoint the new manager, talking about the plan, the direction, having some patience to build it etc.

Again, communication is vital and we don't do it very well. Fans will buy in and get on board with temporary setbacks, if they understand the bigger picture and understand the thinking going into that bigger picture.

Drop your CV in, my son 👌🏼;)

Everton Head Of Communications:
B Muthafuckiní D 💥
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 16, 2018, 09:21:08 PM
Drop your CV in, my son 👌🏼;)

Everton Head Of Communications:
B Muthafuckiní D 💥

I'd be fired within a couple of hours for using the word 'fuckwit' in official club communications, mate. Thanks for the vote of confidence though.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 16, 2018, 09:23:16 PM
I'd be fired within a couple of hours for using the word 'fuckwit' in official club communications, mate. Thanks for the vote of confidence though.

That sort of flagrancy hasnít hampered the rise of the orange man
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 16, 2018, 09:35:42 PM
Silva still 4/11 with Paddypower

who's gonna lash 11K on to win 4K

go on the lads

If you tried they'd give you 11 quid at 4to11 and the rest at 1to20
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Tofifee on May 16, 2018, 09:38:54 PM
One from left field but..............Frank Rijkard anyone...?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 09:42:51 PM
So Brands apparently gonna be the guy who chooses our new manager.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 09:56:26 PM
Excellent

https://twitter.com/GregOK/status/996765579448119300
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lazarou on May 16, 2018, 09:58:39 PM
Excellent

https://twitter.com/GregOK/status/996765579448119300

Will Pep really want to leave City?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Gash on May 16, 2018, 10:07:45 PM
One from left field but..............Frank Rijkard anyone...?

No.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KingdingalingNL on May 16, 2018, 10:19:59 PM
One from left field but..............Frank Rijkard anyone...?

Did well at Barcelona with a team anybody would do well with, other than that he has done nothing. He is a big name based on his playing days as a manager not impressed at all.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
Did well at Barcelona with a team anybody would do well with, other than that he has done nothing. He is a big name based on his playing days as a manager not impressed at all.

Plus I think he played centrally, not on the left...
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blueToffee on May 16, 2018, 11:13:26 PM
Excellent

https://twitter.com/GregOK/status/996765579448119300

Very pleased with that news, at we're trying to do things in the right order. Hopefully Brands has been working on this (narrowing down a shortlist) behind the scenes as he was contemplating this move so we're set up to act swiftly.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 11:17:46 PM
We are Putting a lot of faith in this guy for pretty much everything. I hope he delivers and isn't bang average like a lot of what comes out of holland.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 16, 2018, 11:19:49 PM
You have to think maybe silva isnít a big a certainty as has been suggested. Seems like we havenít decided so 4to11 seems very short
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2018, 11:20:25 PM
Phillip Cocu is 25/1. Seems highly thought of
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 16, 2018, 11:21:06 PM
You have to think maybe silva isnít a big a certainty as has been suggested. Seems like we havenít decided so 4to11 seems very short

Maybe not. And although I'd been putting some pro-Silva stuff on the site, if we can get a better candidate, sound.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 16, 2018, 11:21:12 PM
Be interesting to see how soon fonseca puts pen to paper on a new contract. If he still hasn't in a week, could be interesting.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 16, 2018, 11:41:28 PM
https://twitter.com/born1878/status/996518855869648896
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 16, 2018, 11:59:13 PM
The RB Leipzig coach has quit today. Contender?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 12:03:48 AM
The RB Leipzig coach has quit today. Contender?

That's cos he was promised by the board they could get Lookman for £50, but they've been told that offer isn't there now cos allardyce been sacked.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Normm on May 17, 2018, 12:04:05 AM
Marco Silva started well but finished badly in his last two appointments. No excuses. Once other teams exposed the weaknesses in his teams, he found no answer to stem the tide of bad results. It would be incredibly nieve to think "third time lucky", should it happen again with Everton. Frankly, he shows promise, but needs to prove that he has the courage to adapt well under stress. So, regardless of past interest, Everton needs to look elsewhere IMO.

Whoever comes in should be able to look first at the quality of young talent presently on the books and be the kind of manager who can develop and help them to fulfil their potential to become class players in the Everton squad.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 17, 2018, 12:08:29 AM
Read an article somewhere that at Watford, Silva wanted to buy two defenders and was told no by the board. One was from Shakter (Ismail?). He likes to sort his defence first so if he is appointed expect a defender or two as his first signings
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Silas on May 17, 2018, 12:09:34 AM
Very pleased with how we seem to be finally dealing with this. Allardyce out quickly, Brands in and Baxendale making big noises on appointment. If we can get whoever sorted as Manager I am going all in for them.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 17, 2018, 12:13:13 AM
Glad to see Moshiri isn't picking the next manager. Leaving it to a man with experience of the game and who he thinks would be the right fit in working with him.

Give Moshiri his due, he flew out the traps and made big decisions, realised the error of his ways and has now delegated to his team. He's also not spoken to Jim White in a while too. He's getting there slowly.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 17, 2018, 12:51:08 AM
Added a poll of the obvious options
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 17, 2018, 12:55:34 AM
Added a poll of the obvious options

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Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 17, 2018, 12:57:17 AM
I voted other because I think Unai Emery is an option.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 17, 2018, 01:02:11 AM
My first choice would be Mr Emery.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Silas on May 17, 2018, 01:03:34 AM
I've gone for Fonseca but I would be happy with Silva and even Howe although I think Howe is quite limited.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Trowel on May 17, 2018, 01:05:02 AM
My first choice would be Mr Emery.
Another good board appointment.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: BlueForYou on May 17, 2018, 01:14:02 AM
U 'n' I both

Emery on board
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lazarou on May 17, 2018, 01:18:39 AM
Very pleased with how we seem to be finally dealing with this. Allardyce out quickly, Brands in and Baxendale making big noises on appointment. If we can get whoever sorted as Manager I am going all in for them.
I'm prepared to have my heart broken again, but a great day in our recent history. We mean business.

It would also suggest a sizable transfer budget yet again.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on May 17, 2018, 01:27:36 AM
Does the appointment of Brands increase the possibility of an 'out of left field' appointment as manager?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2018, 01:34:54 AM
I'm all aboard the big Unai express for another summer.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KingdingalingNL on May 17, 2018, 01:41:59 AM
Here in Holland they are saying Brands has acted fast and is close to signing Marco Silva, Silva is in talks as we speak and they are quoting O jogo from Portugal! Anybody know if they talk sense?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: D15TIN on May 17, 2018, 01:46:12 AM
Does the appointment of Brands increase the possibility of an 'out of left field' appointment as manager?
I thought this.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 17, 2018, 01:59:16 AM
Added a poll of the obvious options

Alan Myers said ConceiÁ„o is one of the three being considered.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 17, 2018, 02:02:41 AM
Alan Myers said ConceiÁ„o is one of the three being considered.

Yeah but Iíve never heard of him and itís my poll.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 17, 2018, 02:29:02 AM
ConceiÁ„o:
One season at Olhanense, finished a point clear of relegation.
One season at Acadťmica, finished 8th (of 16), negative goal differential.
One season at Braga, finished a distant 4th, cup finalist, and Europa group qualification. League expanded from 16 to 18 teams.
One season at Vitůria de Guimar„es, finished 10th.
Half season in France at Nantes, took over a side second bottom and finished 7th, one spot behind Europa places.
One season at Porto, league champions, 2nd in their Champions League group, lost 5-0 to Liverpool in the knockout rounds.

Nothing too indicative of potential for long-term success, to me.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on May 17, 2018, 02:35:01 AM
Does the appointment of Brands increase the possibility of an 'out of left field' appointment as manager?

I had this thought also, especially with the CEO saying

ďChief among my priorities is to structure and resource our Club to enable us to fully achieve our ambitions. We will work alongside Marcel on the recruitment of a new manager, which is now our biggest focus.Ē

Like he's taking the lead in it, surely an appointment of or very quick would render that part of her statement pointless?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Silas on May 17, 2018, 02:38:58 AM
I had this thought also, especially with the CEO saying

ďChief among my priorities is to structure and resource our Club to enable us to fully achieve our ambitions. We will work alongside Marcel on the recruitment of a new manager, which is now our biggest focus.Ē

Like he's taking the lead in it, surely an appointment of or very quick would render that part of her statement pointless?

Possibly or it might be a way of ensuring Silva etc is getting an endorsement from the new guy with the big reputation.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on May 17, 2018, 02:40:53 AM
Possibly or it might be a way of ensuring Silva etc is getting an endorsement from the new guy with the big reputation.

gah, had my hopes up and everything then
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Confucius on May 17, 2018, 02:47:13 AM
Has to be Arteta for me.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 17, 2018, 02:50:16 AM
Has to be Arteta for me.

Iíd like us to take the risk on arteta to
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: BlueForYou on May 17, 2018, 02:55:06 AM
Give him a go, the fans will get behind him
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 17, 2018, 02:56:44 AM
They really donít rate Silva on Toffeeweb, although that site does make us look like Optimists Anonymous on here.

This was an interesting insight, though..

ďMartinez? Heís far more of a Mourinho! The Olympiacos fans joked that the team would give the ball away on purpose just so they could counter attack them.
His attacking brand of football is very direct. Itís not possession based. They get forward at speed. However, Watford didnít find the right balance and got caught out a couple of times.Ē
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 02:57:44 AM
Pretty sure arteta is nailed on arsenal
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 17, 2018, 02:58:47 AM
Arteta's first job as a boss here would do..
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 17, 2018, 03:03:35 AM
Amazed Arsenal are taking a chance on Arteta, with the calibre of manger they could attract. Madness, in my eyes.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 03:04:40 AM
It's fonseca for me
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Tony Clifton on May 17, 2018, 03:17:25 AM
Feeling good tonight - got my appetite back and demolished a massive roast dinner.  Me and my mate toasted the memory of SA with raised gravy boats, and now we're on the Brandy.  To Marcel  :cheers:  Now, go and get us the big Paulo lad.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 17, 2018, 03:26:58 AM
Fonseca for me, but I believe heíd have a tougher job on his hands - high pressing teams need very athletic players, we do not have. Also, he has a wealth of creative players at his disposal also, again, players we do not have.

Silva - I am on board like, but I can understand reservations. Would like to see some deeper analysis on him over his career - specifically of the sort statsbomb have done in the past, looking at attacking efficiency vs defensive efficiency. Chances created vs chances allowed.

You can use this not just to see how a team, which is going to be about 80% impacted by the squad, fared but how much of an impact the manager and his tactics actually have on performance of a side e.g if mark Hughes takes over your squad of worldies, youíre going to make chances through talent of players, but his tactics are likely to put a cap on HOW many you can create :
https://statsbomb.com/2013/10/introducing-manager-fingerprints/

I do think his tactics are like Iíve said - modern hodgson, positionally tight and close down passing lanes then break quickly. Mourinho shout not a million miles away. Wouldnít mind seeing hull and Watfordís possession & passing stats also.

Think silva could hit the ground running. Schneiderlin is actually a very good passer in terms of playing into space for attackers, but we could definitely do with a very good progressive passer and dribbler in the middle for turning that defence into attack.

Emery - Iím slightly turned off by the fact he is regarded to have failed at PSG. I also donít really know how he plays. Iím sure I could be convinced.

Whatever happens, I have to say Iím quite happy with the news that brands is now heading up recruitment.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 17, 2018, 03:29:46 AM
I think as Marcel has obviously been going to come here for some time the three being touted has having interviews itís got to be one of them surely
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 17, 2018, 03:31:34 AM
Amazed Arsenal are taking a chance on Arteta, with the calibre of manger they could attract. Madness, in my eyes.

Makes you wonder if they are looking to do it on the cheap again and the big names wonít come if the budgets not there
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: starblood on May 17, 2018, 03:42:29 AM
Arteta's first job as a boss here would do..

With Cahill as his No. 2?

Makes me a little excited that thought!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 17, 2018, 03:46:24 AM
Makes you wonder if they are looking to do it on the cheap again and the big names won’t come if the budgets not there

The report I read said they are after a coaching manager, who is happy to just sort the team out and not get involved in other stuff.

Sounds to me like they want a yes man with very little power.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 17, 2018, 03:49:01 AM
The report I read said they are after a coaching manager, who is happy to just sort the team out and not get involved in other stuff.

Sounds to me like they want a yes man with very little power.

Nah sounds to me like a continental set up. A coach with a football heriarchy above that - less risk in the coach choice and more easily changed down the line.

E.g in Holland they donít even say manager, they say trainer.

Arteta is rated by the worlds best manager. As far as Iím concerned thatís a good enough cv.

Plus, he knows the culture of the club etc. Nice easy transition.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluebridge on May 17, 2018, 03:49:40 AM
I want to take a punt on Arteta.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 17, 2018, 03:51:49 AM
Nah sounds to me like a continental set up. A coach with a football heriarchy above that - less risk in the coach choice and more easily changed down the line.

E.g in Holland they don’t even say manager, they say trainer.

Arteta is rated by the worlds best manager. As far as I’m concerned that’s a good enough cv.

Plus, he knows the culture of the club etc. Nice easy transition.

Points taken on the setup. I was being a bit tongue in cheek. But re: Guardiola's endorsement, what else is he gonna say? Until you're the man in charge, making 100 decisions a day, you don't know how you'll cope, no matter how good a coach you are.

Massive, unnecessary risk in my view. Pleased to see it as well, because they could crash and burn with this appointment.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 03:53:53 AM
I'd find it extremely uncomfortable if we had arteta and it was going tits up.
Definately one of my favourite everton players.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 17, 2018, 04:00:07 AM
Points taken on the setup. I was being a bit tongue in cheek. But re: Guardiola's endorsement, what else is he gonna say? Until you're the man in charge, making 100 decisions a day, you don't know how you'll cope, no matter how good a coach you are.

Massive, unnecessary risk in my view. Pleased to see it as well, because they could crash and burn with this appointment.

Yeah deffo the biggest period of uncertainty for them, similar to united after fergie.

Have a soft spot for Arsenal (and arteta!) but would happily see them struggle if it meant Marcos mighty blues slipped into the top 6..
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on May 17, 2018, 04:04:10 AM
Fonseca for me, but I believe heíd have a tougher job on his hands - high pressing teams need very athletic players, we do not have. Also, he has a wealth of creative players at his disposal also, again, players we do not have.

Silva - I am on board like, but I can understand reservations. Would like to see some deeper analysis on him over his career - specifically of the sort statsbomb have done in the past, looking at attacking efficiency vs defensive efficiency. Chances created vs chances allowed.

You can use this not just to see how a team, which is going to be about 80% impacted by the squad, fared but how much of an impact the manager and his tactics actually have on performance of a side e.g if mark Hughes takes over your squad of worldies, youíre going to make chances through talent of players, but his tactics are likely to put a cap on HOW many you can create :
https://statsbomb.com/2013/10/introducing-manager-fingerprints/

I do think his tactics are like Iíve said - modern hodgson, positionally tight and close down passing lanes then break quickly. Mourinho shout not a million miles away. Wouldnít mind seeing hull and Watfordís possession & passing stats also.

Think silva could hit the ground running. Schneiderlin is actually a very good passer in terms of playing into space for attackers, but we could definitely do with a very good progressive passer and dribbler in the middle for turning that defence into attack.

Emery - Iím slightly turned off by the fact he is regarded to have failed at PSG. I also donít really know how he plays. Iím sure I could be convinced.

Whatever happens, I have to say Iím quite happy with the news that brands is now heading up recruitment.

not sure if its failing as such, but his problem seemed to be with dealing with the absolute bell ends they've got in the squad there, Neymar & Alves being the biggest culprits

That Euro League podcast Julians Laurant semed to suggest, that PSG's director of football were actually looking at 3/4 other managers (one being Fonseca) before their president informed them he'd decided he was appointing Tuchel
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: toshyboy on May 17, 2018, 04:06:22 AM
Arteta deffo growing on me, particularly in a head coach rather than manager role.  Watched that special on sky with pep last night who gave all the credit to arteta for the improvement in sane and sterling this year
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 17, 2018, 04:21:23 AM
Nah sounds to me like a continental set up. A coach with a football heriarchy above that - less risk in the coach choice and more easily changed down the line.

E.g in Holland they donít even say manager, they say trainer.

Arteta is rated by the worlds best manager. As far as Iím concerned thatís a good enough cv.

Plus, he knows the culture of the club etc. Nice easy transition.

David Moyes was rated by the then worldís best manager and look how that turned out
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Gash on May 17, 2018, 04:30:14 AM
If Arteta hadn't played for us people wouldn't be giving it a second thought, in fact we'd probably all be pissing ourselves at Arsenal for going on the cheap and apparently taking a punt on such a young, inexperienced manager.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 17, 2018, 04:32:04 AM
If Arteta hadn't played for us people wouldn't be giving it a second thought, in fact we'd probably all be pissing ourselves at Arsenal for going on the cheap and apparently taking a punt on such a young, inexperienced manager.

Swap Arteta for Viera and see how people feel. Because they're both on the exact same level: potential future managers after they have proved themselves at a level lower than us.

Fair play to Arsenal if they want to roll dice blind though.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2018, 04:33:50 AM
The big uni express is taking a detour through Arteta town here lads.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Confucius on May 17, 2018, 04:49:24 AM
I would look at Viera too. he didn't get experience as Pep's no.2 though.

Some people just scream great manager in their playing days. Arteta is one of those people.

We don't need proven. We need up and coming with new ideas but talent.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 17, 2018, 04:57:14 AM
I would look at Viera too. he didn't get experience as Pep's no.2 though.

Some people just scream great manager in their playing days. Arteta is one of those people.

We don't need proven. We need up and coming with new ideas but talent.

In what way did artetas playing days scream great manager? Sorry but thatís just nonsense.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 05:15:46 AM
Tomorrow's mirror reckons we're in advanced talks with Silva
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ravardo on May 17, 2018, 05:17:21 AM
The only arteta i wanna see is a arteta clone in our midfield because like the england squad with have no one of that ability
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on May 17, 2018, 05:21:40 AM
Tomorrow's mirror reckons we're in advanced talks with Silva

With all the happenings of the last twenty-four hours that news seems a little old hat and is not making me feel as excited as maybe it should.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Confucius on May 17, 2018, 05:30:13 AM
In what way did artetas playing days scream great manager? Sorry but thatís just nonsense.

Cerebral, read the game, seem to lead and get on well with other players.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 17, 2018, 05:48:30 AM
Simon Jordan's comments on Silva are amusing
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 17, 2018, 05:52:49 AM
Points taken on the setup. I was being a bit tongue in cheek. But re: Guardiola's endorsement, what else is he gonna say? Until you're the man in charge, making 100 decisions a day, you don't know how you'll cope, no matter how good a coach you are.

Massive, unnecessary risk in my view. Pleased to see it as well, because they could crash and burn with this appointment.

Re this : Brands has apparently made comments tonight in Holland about everton trying to move away from the ďtraditional English model where the control and supervision is with the manager.Ē

Music!

I donít want to get too carried away but for me so far this is going very well (6 hours in).

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: kramer0 on May 17, 2018, 05:58:39 AM
Re this : Brands has apparently made comments tonight in Holland about everton trying to move away from the "traditional English model where the control and supervision is with the manager.Ē

Promising if heís really said that.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ravardo on May 17, 2018, 05:59:08 AM
Simon Jordan's comments on Silva are amusing

Whats he saying?? good or bad
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 17, 2018, 06:09:13 AM
Whats he saying?? good or bad


https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/960826/Everton-Marco-Silva-next-manager-Simon-Jordan
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 17, 2018, 06:38:22 AM
Nuno Santo guys, heís the man I would sign. Heís turned Wolves into a quality footballing side in one of the most difficult leagues in world football. He seems to be very loyal to Wolves but Go on Brands make him an offer he canít refuse anyway.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 17, 2018, 07:02:30 AM
Nuno Santo guys, heís the man I would sign. Heís turned Wolves into a quality footballing side in one of the most difficult leagues in world football. He seems to be very loyal to Wolves but Go on Brands make him an offer he canít refuse anyway.

He's not leaving Wolves, they could be on the cusp of something great.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 17, 2018, 07:03:28 AM
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/960826/Everton-Marco-Silva-next-manager-Simon-Jordan

nonce
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 17, 2018, 07:56:03 AM
nonce
Silva or Jordan? Or both?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 17, 2018, 08:09:51 AM
Amazed Arsenal are taking a chance on Arteta, with the calibre of manger they could attract. Madness, in my eyes.
Think the fact that Guardiola thinks so much of him goes a long way, don't think he's just making up the numbers in that set up, don't think he would come to be honest, but got the feeling he's going to do well when he does manage.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 17, 2018, 08:41:58 AM
Silva or Jordan? Or both?

Jordan
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 17, 2018, 08:45:16 AM
My son who has just text me to say that all betting on Emery to Everton has been suspended
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: American Evertonian on May 17, 2018, 10:24:40 AM
My son who has just text me to say that all betting on Emery to Everton has been suspended

I'd be okay with that hire. To me would be a home run of a hire
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Goaljira on May 17, 2018, 01:08:00 PM
One massive plus on Emery is his experience working with a DoF before.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Lxxx on May 17, 2018, 01:48:08 PM
I'm liking this whole direction we're heading in. Brands seemingly implements a consistent transfer policy and makes sure the squad is well balanced with, if his history at PSV is anything to go by, players with high energy who are hungry to progress and increase in value. Hopefully signals the end of signings like Williams, Bolasie or Sigurdsson (I like Sig but the transfer itself was bonkers).

Means we'll never have to suffer appointments like Koeman or Allardyce again. Which shows Moshiri has listened to someone in the know. However this appointment is key as they will be presiding over a huge amount of change. It might actually be a great job for whoever gets the position next time around. 
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Makis on May 17, 2018, 01:51:31 PM
Emery would be great but I wouldn't exactly take note of the betting markets. They don't know any more than we do, they just react to what people put money in. The market for the next Everton manager is small so it doesn't take much to change the odds.

I think his style would suit the fans, quick, deadly counter-attacking system. A big part of the reason he was sacked from PSG was he wasn't allowed to play like that, instead had to change to a possession-based style. He is also very pragmatic and can get the best out of teams. At Valencia he actually followed Koeman to a real mess. They were near a total disaster but he got them sixth on the first season and then third. Valencia, as well as Sevilla later had to sell their best players every year, yet Emery managed to keep them competitive.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 17, 2018, 03:19:10 PM
Hope we bin Silva , Simon Jordan is spot on .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 17, 2018, 03:32:58 PM
Hope we bin Silva , Simon Jordan is spot on .
Like that old Tory bird said, "He has something of the night about him"  This time it has to be the right bloke and he's way too big a risk, be happy with just about anybody else mentioned, but not him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 17, 2018, 03:33:33 PM
Hope we bin Silva , Simon Jordan is spot on .

Might I say, it's most unlike you to take a contrary view and in doing so, align yourself with a massive self-aggrandising bellend.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 17, 2018, 04:32:43 PM
My son who has just text me to say that all betting on Emery to Everton has been suspended
.................don't know why that would be. I just put a few quid on at 25/1 with Paddy Power .Bit of a long shot  really.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 17, 2018, 04:34:21 PM
.................don't know why that would be. I just put a few quid on at 25/1 with Paddy Power .Bit of a long shot  really.
Are you in the uk?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 04:50:29 PM
How can bet365 only have the options for next manager for arsenal and west Brom????
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 04:52:27 PM
How can bet365 only have the options for next manager for arsenal and west Brom????

Because Stoke are shit
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 04:58:08 PM
Should be everton and west ham in there
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 17, 2018, 05:03:27 PM
My son who has just text me to say that all betting on Emery to Everton has been suspended
16s
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 17, 2018, 05:07:33 PM
Canít believe Moyes and Hughes is on that list
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 17, 2018, 05:11:48 PM
Nuno Santo guys, heís the man I would sign. Heís turned Wolves into a quality footballing side in one of the most difficult leagues in world football. He seems to be very loyal to Wolves but Go on Brands make him an offer he canít refuse anyway.

Iím always confused as to why people think the championship is 1 of the most difficult leagues. Anyone can win it because they are all a bit shite. Itís obly difficult and competitive if your team is a bit shite too
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: formerKHL on May 17, 2018, 05:20:20 PM
for me...hopefully..

Cocu
Emery
Benitez....would take any 1 of these...
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 17, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
I'm always confused as to why people think the championship is 1 of the most difficult leagues. Anyone can win it because they are all a bit shite. It's obly difficult and competitive if your team is a bit shite too
Every player in every team trying their hardest to prove a point whilst wanting that move up into a prem team, if they succeed their next contract will set them up for life thatís why itís such a good league also remember they play more league games which is a challenge on itís own
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 17, 2018, 05:26:02 PM
Might I say, it's most unlike you to take a contrary view and in doing so, align yourself with a massive self-aggrandising bellend.

Never been a sheep or afraid to say what I think . Had to be anti Martinez , had to be pro Koeman , had to give Sam a chance , got to be behind Silva .................... Unlike you to be contrary to me and unlike Audrey to like it . Wheres Jamokachi ?

Careful what you wish for ( yet again ) .

Edit . I would be behind Emery or anyone else who hasn't made himself look a bit of twat .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: formerKHL on May 17, 2018, 05:30:09 PM
Every player in every team trying their hardest to prove a point whilst wanting that move up into a prem team, if they succeed their next contract will set them up for life thatís why itís such a good league also remember they play more league games which is a challenge on itís own

Just to add onto this footballing wise....you dont get as much time on the ball....you need to think, react quicker, and most teams play a more high tempo pressing game..than what you find in the prem....the skill level isn't as high so it becomes techniclly difficult...for those players that are technically better..they get bought by prem teams...
If you look at the teams who get promoted then relegated the following season it's mainly for the reasons above and they dont adapt quickly enough....there are of course always exceptions......but look how long they stay in the league and keep fighting relegation or finish near the relegation zone...
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on May 17, 2018, 06:12:25 PM
I'm surprised Fonseca has such a clear lead in this poll, thought it would be much closer between him and Silva

I think it means if Silva has a bad start he'll be a cunt before Xmas

If Fonseca has a bad start he'll get a bit more time and won't be a cunt until the following season

And of course the players will get away largely unscathed like what's happening at the moment
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheBlackWatchFanzine on May 17, 2018, 06:16:58 PM
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Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue1948 on May 17, 2018, 06:20:02 PM
May be the news on TEF about Usmanov will change things!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 06:23:05 PM
May be the news on TEF about Usmanov will change things!

What news??
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 17, 2018, 06:34:53 PM
Plenty of money going on Silva , Ladbrokes and Coral quoting 1/5 .Fonseca drifting out.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on May 17, 2018, 06:36:23 PM
With the new DoF in place Iím a lot more relaxed over which manager comes in next. Iím confident that weíre going in the right direction now, whether he chooses to bring in Silva, Fonseca, Emery or a more unknown manager. Repeated success shows that Brands knows what heís doing.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Escla on May 17, 2018, 06:46:53 PM
Do you reckon the new manager will be told to ďbring in as many of his backroom staff as you want but Duncan Ferguson has to stay, heís as useful as a chocolate tea pot but the fans love him and theyíll riot if we sack himĒ or words to that effect !
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: kramer0 on May 17, 2018, 07:17:12 PM
Do you reckon the new manager will be told to ďbring in as many of his backroom staff as you want but Duncan Ferguson has to stay, heís as useful as a chocolate tea pot but the fans love him and theyíll riot if we sack himĒ or words to that effect !

Sam's friends had to go immediately but it would be wise to overhaul the rest of the staff slowly, giving everyone a chance to prove their value. Some semblance of continuity and a positive atmosphere at Finch Farm are essential if we want to perform well in this upcoming season.

Saying that, I would hope that Brands has the authority to make whatever changes are necessary for the club to succeed long-term, even if it involves replacing the likes of Ferguson, Unsworth, or other former players we employ. I like that Everton looks out for its players but we don't owe them important footballing jobs if other candidates are more qualified.

I'll add that I would expect things like this to change, sooner rather than later:

http://trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised (http://trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised)

If we're moving away from hiring long-ball managers like Moyes, Koeman, and Allardyce -- and I really hope we are -- then there's no reason our U18s should be playing that way.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on May 17, 2018, 07:51:02 PM
Never been a sheep or afraid to say what I think . Had to be anti Martinez , had to be pro Koeman , had to give Sam a chance , got to be behind Silva .................... Unlike you to be contrary to me and unlike Audrey to like it . Wheres Jamokachi ?

Careful what you wish for ( yet again ) .

Edit . I would be behind Emery or anyone else who hasn't made himself look a bit of twat .
I'm also very worried about Silva, I think this has the potential to go spectacularly bad! It's a risk we don't need to take.

I voted other, would be very happy with Fonzy and would wet my pants for Conte or Ancellotti. Realistically I think Emery is the safest option, yet is still a bit sexy!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 07:54:20 PM
I hear a lot of comments about sexy looking managers. Personally I couldn't give a fuck if he looked like a rat.
I see nearly half the votes are for fonseca.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on May 17, 2018, 08:02:25 PM
I voted for Fonseca, but id rather have Howe over Silva. Think hes done remarkably well with Bournemouth, hes also an Evertonian
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue1948 on May 17, 2018, 08:05:29 PM
What news??

http://www.theevertonforum.co.uk/newspaper-report-usmanov-will-join-moshiri-at-everton/
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shropshire Blue on May 17, 2018, 08:26:37 PM
I hear a lot of comments about sexy looking managers. Personally I couldn't give a fuck if he looked like a rat.
I see nearly half the votes are for fonseca.
So Sammy Lee is a possibility then?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 17, 2018, 08:38:39 PM
So Sammy Lee is a possibility then?

It's great we get back to legitimately hating his guts again.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 08:41:18 PM
So Sammy Lee is a possibility then?

He's made up now, he can drink his own piss again while cheering the RS on next saturday
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 17, 2018, 08:56:54 PM
It's great we get back to legitimately hating his guts again.

Anyone who ever stopped, even a little, needs to have a word with themselves.  :D
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on May 17, 2018, 08:59:56 PM
I hear a lot of comments about sexy looking managers. Personally I couldn't give a fuck if he looked like a rat.
I see nearly half the votes are for fonseca.
I didn't mean "sexy" as in I'd like to bum him, maybe "exciting" is the word I should have used!!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 17, 2018, 09:02:11 PM
Anyone who ever stopped, even a little, needs to have a word with themselves.  :D

Well, he was supposedly "one of us" briefly.

I like to think of this past 6 months as a tumor that grew and Mosh cut it out. Just took a bit longer as it was on the NHS. If it was private, it would have been out well before Christmas.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 17, 2018, 09:15:40 PM
I didn't mean "sexy" as in I'd like to bum him, maybe "exciting" is the word I should have used!!

Good bum is number 1 on my list for a new manager. Hoping for brad Pitt
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 17, 2018, 09:23:51 PM
Good bum is number 1 on my list for a new manager. Hoping for brad Pitt

I dunno, heís looking jaded these days, not prime cock like he once was.

Iím more on the McConaughey or Gosling (not Dan) train currently.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 17, 2018, 09:48:49 PM
Well, he was supposedly "one of us" briefly.

I like to think of this past 6 months as a tumor that grew and Mosh cut it out. Just took a bit longer as it was on the NHS. If it was private, it would have been out well before Christmas.

Moshiri cutting out his own tumors and expensively so .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 17, 2018, 10:42:07 PM
I dunno, heís looking jaded these days, not prime cock like he once was.

Iím more on the McConaughey or Gosling (not Dan) train currently.

Definitely not Dan. He shat on his chips (metaphorically speaking) no bum for that disloyal bastard
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 17, 2018, 11:00:30 PM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/997131113431695366
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 17, 2018, 11:14:28 PM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/997131113431695366

I'm happy about that actually. I would have hated West Ham to have got him while we got Silva.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 17, 2018, 11:27:07 PM
I'm happy about that actually. I would have hated West Ham to have got him while we got Silva.

In the comments section Myers is asked who is on the list and he says that he knows of two, Silva and the guy from Porto. Me personally, I would have liked Fonseca but I would like us to at least sound out Emery.

I am more comfortable with Brands being involved with this process, than what has happened before.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Major Clanger on May 17, 2018, 11:32:37 PM
In the comments section Myers is asked who is on the list and he says that he knows of two, Silva and the guy from Porto. Me personally, I would have liked Fonseca but I would like us to at least sound out Emery.

I am more comfortable with Brands being involved with this process, than what has happened before.

Is this the same Porto Guy we were wanking over a few years ago or has he regenerated like the Doctor?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 17, 2018, 11:34:30 PM
Is this the same Porto Guy we were wanking over a few years ago or has he regenerated like the Doctor?

Sťrgio ConceiÁ„o, who has only been there since last summer.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 11:36:14 PM
Or maybe Fonseca is fed up waiting around so had told his agent to release some info so any potential teams who want him pull their fingers out and get the ball rolling?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on May 17, 2018, 11:40:17 PM
Is this the same Porto Guy we were wanking over a few years ago or has he regenerated like the Doctor?



I think he's only been there a season, but won the league this year. All here MC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9rgio_Concei%C3%A7%C3%A3o
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Major Clanger on May 17, 2018, 11:42:39 PM
Sťrgio ConceiÁ„o, who has only been there since last summer.

That's a shame, I hoped it'd be a woman this time around. :)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 17, 2018, 11:45:41 PM
Is this the same Porto Guy we were wanking over a few years ago or has he regenerated like the Doctor?
.........no that was Vitor Pereira in 2013 .since when he's had about 4 jobs. Now in China.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 17, 2018, 11:47:30 PM
That's a shame, I hoped it'd be a woman this time around. :)

Cherie Lunghi, stopped managing teams in 1990, so she's another one to scratch off the list.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 17, 2018, 11:57:29 PM
Never been a sheep or afraid to say what I think . Had to be anti Martinez , had to be pro Koeman , had to give Sam a chance , got to be behind Silva .................... Unlike you to be contrary to me and unlike Audrey to like it . Wheres Jamokachi ?

Careful what you wish for ( yet again ) .

Edit . I would be behind Emery or anyone else who hasn't made himself look a bit of twat .

Glad you took it in the mischievous spirit intended, rather than anything malicious.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Faceatthefence on May 18, 2018, 12:00:39 AM
I voted for Fonseca, but id rather have Howe over Silva. Think hes done remarkably well with Bournemouth, hes also an Evertonian
Would take Howe all day over Silva.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 18, 2018, 12:05:19 AM
Emery
Leonardo Jardim
lucien favre

any of the above ,

looks like Favre is going to Dortmund-

but voted for Howe ,  think would get longer time   fonseca staying at SD

not getting PEP just singed a new contract
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2018, 12:19:12 AM
Come on lads, we know Sťrgio ConceiÁ„o. He was tearing it up on the right wing for Lazio, Inter and Portugal about 10-15 years ago.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 18, 2018, 01:05:03 AM
Would take Howe all day over Silva.
.................Howe is ok but he doesn't like it up North ,which is why he left Burnley I think ?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: velimski on May 18, 2018, 01:22:45 AM
Come on lads, we know Sťrgio ConceiÁ„o. He was tearing it up on the right wing for Lazio, Inter and Portugal about 10-15 years ago.



I pictured him as being bald but think I must have got him mixed up with Ivan de la Pena for some bizarre reason.

I remember who he is now.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2018, 01:35:37 AM
I pictured him as being bald but think I must have got him mixed up with Ivan de la Pena for some bizarre reason.

I remember who he is now.

Haha. Ivan De la Pena's a right shout from the European past. Wasn't he at SuperDepor when Diego Tristan and Valeron were tearing it up?

Edit: No he wasn't. Just googled him and don't know where I got that from. Must've been some other bald, Iberian dude in Depor's midfield.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Redartin on May 18, 2018, 01:39:57 AM
Was on a Watford forum earlier.
They hate Silva, or as some refer to him Slither, others call him snake, and there is an ongoing reference to a big watch he has. These comments are all after the Everton intervention but when you go back a bit in the forum to the Pre Everton time there were people questioning if he was all that.
The football was good when it was good but it appears he was prone to fuck ups, some of them major. He took on Man City at their own game and got his arse well smacked. Some of his substitutions were questionable. But one word keep appearing again and again, arrogant.
Some felt that only he had a couple of good players pulling him out of a hole week in week out, he would have been nothing special. Then Everton came in for him and he was a disloyal cunt.
The whole thing just reminded me of what Wigan fans once said about Bobby Brown Boots and we dismissed them as know fuck alls.

I know all teams will have some fans who you will never satisfy but sometimes so many people canít be wrong.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: velimski on May 18, 2018, 01:41:52 AM
Haha. Ivan De la Pena's a right shout from the European past. Wasn't he at SuperDepor when Diego Tristan and Valeron were tearing it up?

Edit: No he wasn't. Just googled him and don't know where I got that from. Must've been some other bald, Iberian dude in Depor's midfield.

I don't think he played for Depor. You must be confusing him with someone else.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 18, 2018, 02:01:13 AM
Who was the rangy bald black guy who played for depor for years? I think cm..

Edit : don’t think it was depor nvm
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 18, 2018, 02:14:45 AM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/inside-track-marco-silva-including-14668031
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 18, 2018, 02:15:06 AM
Who was the rangy bald black guy who played for depor for years? I think cm..

Edit : donít think it was depor nvm

Dabo at Lazio?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 18, 2018, 02:18:26 AM
Dabo at Lazio?

I remember dabo but the guy I’m thinking of played in Spain I think.

Similar character, bald, older, rangy.

It’ll come to me..

Edit: pretty sure he would score the occasional thunderbastard.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 18, 2018, 02:21:39 AM
Who was the rangy bald black guy who played for depor for years? I think cm..

Edit : donít think it was depor nvm

Are you thinking of FlŠvio Concecaio who played for Real Madrid?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 18, 2018, 02:22:42 AM
Are you thinking of FlŠvio Concecaio who played for Real Madrid?

I MIGHT be thinking of AssunÁ„o who played for depor and atletico- he seems to have hair tho!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 18, 2018, 02:28:23 AM
I remember dabo but the guy Iím thinking of played in Spain I think.

Similar character, bald, older, rangy.

Itíll come to me..

Edit: pretty sure he would score the occasional thunderbastard.

Spanish guy played for Villarreal?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 18, 2018, 02:29:21 AM
I MIGHT be thinking of AssunÁ„o who played for depor and atletico- he seems to have hair tho!
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I canít think of any bald black dudes other than Andrade who was a centre back, Emerson who played for Boro to but he had a proper soul glo thing going on lol
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 18, 2018, 02:30:19 AM
Was on a Watford forum earlier.
They hate Silva, or as some refer to him Slither, others call him snake, and there is an ongoing reference to a big watch he has. These comments are all after the Everton intervention but when you go back a bit in the forum to the Pre Everton time there were people questioning if he was all that.
The football was good when it was good but it appears he was prone to fuck ups, some of them major. He took on Man City at their own game and got his arse well smacked. Some of his substitutions were questionable. But one word keep appearing again and again, arrogant.
Some felt that only he had a couple of good players pulling him out of a hole week in week out, he would have been nothing special. Then Everton came in for him and he was a disloyal cunt.
The whole thing just reminded me of what Wigan fans once said about Bobby Brown Boots and we dismissed them as know fuck alls.

I know all teams will have some fans who you will never satisfy but sometimes so many people canít be wrong.

They know fuck all, man, just like most of us.

He had Hull playing good stuff, and had that Watford shower in 4th.

I feel he will be a good coach for whoever he goes to, particularly if itís to a club where heís wanted and with a good structure behind him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 18, 2018, 02:30:27 AM
Spanish guy played for Villarreal?

Marcos Senna that was
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 18, 2018, 02:30:46 AM
He was actually Brazilian
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 18, 2018, 02:32:15 AM
Haha. Ivan De la Pena's a right shout from the European past. Wasn't he at SuperDepor when Diego Tristan and Valeron were tearing it up?

Edit: No he wasn't. Just googled him and don't know where I got that from. Must've been some other bald, Iberian dude in Depor's midfield.

Their right back was bald.

They had Valeron in midfield but he wasn’t bald.

Djalminha (sic) in the 10 role.

Mauro Silva played for them too.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 18, 2018, 02:33:50 AM
Deportivo had a good team in early 00ís with Diego Tristan and Roy Makaay up front with Valeron behind them
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 18, 2018, 02:33:52 AM
Some great names flying about here.

Did Diego Tristan score against us in his utterly forgettable loan spell at West Ham?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: velimski on May 18, 2018, 02:33:59 AM
Their right back was bald.

They had Valeron in midfield but he wasnít bald.

Djalminha (sic) in the 10 role.

Mauro Silva played for them too.

That guy had some outrageous skills.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Goaljira on May 18, 2018, 02:34:19 AM
I remember dabo but the guy Iím thinking of played in Spain I think.

Similar character, bald, older, rangy.

Itíll come to me..

Edit: pretty sure he would score the occasional thunderbastard.

Are you getting your Segundo Castillo fantasies mixed up with real life again?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 18, 2018, 02:35:16 AM
I MIGHT be thinking of AssunÁ„o who played for depor and atletico- he seems to have hair tho!

I think it might be big FlŠvio

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999%E2%80%932000_Deportivo_de_La_Coru%C3%B1a_season#Squad
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 18, 2018, 02:35:22 AM
Manuel Pablo was the right back. Think he was there for years.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 18, 2018, 02:37:46 AM
Betis had some great players back then too, denilson and finindi George
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2018, 02:38:14 AM
I remember dabo but the guy Iím thinking of played in Spain I think.

Similar character, bald, older, rangy.

Itíll come to me..

Edit: pretty sure he would score the occasional thunderbastard.

That description and way of phrasing it made me laugh an inordinate amount. Very dry.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 18, 2018, 02:39:23 AM
Assuncao actually played for Betis too 2002-2007
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Redartin on May 18, 2018, 02:39:43 AM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/inside-track-marco-silva-including-14668031
That pretty much echos (pardon the pun) what the fans in the forum said. There appears to be an arrogance there. I think when Everton made their approach it coincided with injuries to the one or two key players that made him look good. Or else their form went to pot at the thought of moving with him. If a deal has to be struck for any compo can we insist the Z cars music is exclusively ours.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2018, 02:41:58 AM
That pretty much echos (pardon the pun) what the fans in the forum said. There appears to be an arrogance there. I think when Everton made their approach it coincided with injuries to the one or two key players that made him look good. Or else their form went to pot at the thought of moving with him. If a deal has to be struck for any compo can we insist the Z cars music is exclusively ours.

Arrogance has never served Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Pochettino, Guardiola etc etc well. You're right. Look elsewhere.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 18, 2018, 02:43:27 AM
Spanish guy played for Villarreal?

Maybe!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Redartin on May 18, 2018, 02:49:18 AM
Arrogance has never served Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Pochettino, Guardiola etc etc well. You're right. Look elsewhere.
Nor your good self at times.

BTW where did I say we should look elsewhere? In fact I have said I think the deal is done.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on May 18, 2018, 02:50:42 AM
That pretty much echos (pardon the pun) what the fans in the forum said. There appears to be an arrogance there. I think when Everton made their approach it coincided with injuries to the one or two key players that made him look good. Or else their form went to pot at the thought of moving with him. If a deal has to be struck for any compo can we insist the Z cars music is exclusively ours.

Not having that avatar mate, ruined sexy Marco  :hmph:
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Toffee1 on May 18, 2018, 02:52:48 AM
I thought it was Phil Jupitus but on a closer look it is Marco after he has raided the toffee ladies stash of Everton mints.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on May 18, 2018, 02:55:10 AM
We can rule Fonseca out.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 18, 2018, 02:55:34 AM
Think an inherent proble for Silva in these discussions is that people have seen the good and bad.

Fonseca and even Emery havenít had that scrutiny as they havenít managed under everyoneís noses.

They will have downsides too (eg Sevilla finished 7th at least once when there isnít the same fixed top 6 in Spain), as everyone does, but they won't be seen until theyíre seen every week.

For me Silva is a managerial version of the type of player that most people agree we should be targeting.

Heís young with plus points, but areas to improve on.

He might not work out but his potential highest level is very promising.

You canít guarantee that anyone will work out but heís got the right profile which is the main consideration when picking anyone.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 18, 2018, 03:02:40 AM
Think an inherent proble for Silva in these discussions is that people have seen the good and bad.

Fonseca and even Emery havenít had that scrutiny as they havenít managed under everyoneís noses.

They will have downsides too (eg Sevilla finished 7th at least once when there isnít the same fixed top 6 in Spain), as everyone does, but they won't be seen until theyíre seen every week.

For me Silva is a managerial version of the type of player that most people agree we should be targeting.

Heís young with plus points, but areas to improve on.

He might not work out but his potential highest level is very promising.

You canít guarantee that anyone will work out but heís got the right profile which is the main consideration when picking anyone.

Emery did win European trophies with Sevilla. Silva was relegated with hull and got sacked from Watford

Thereís obviously a lot of potential there but I do also think we are dressing his record up an awful lot. Yes Watford were 4th (before they fell to bits) and yes he almost saved a terrible hulk (before they threw it away by losing to an even more terrible Sunderland)

If we can get emery (which we probably canít) then thereís no argument for silva
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 18, 2018, 03:05:42 AM
Emery did win European trophies with Sevilla. Silva was relegated with hull and got sacked from Watford

Thereís obviously a lot of potential there but I do also think we are dressing his record up an awful lot. Yes Watford were 4th (before they fell to bits) and yes he almost saved a terrible hulk (before they threw it away by losing to an even more terrible Sunderland)

If we can get emery (which we probably canít) then thereís no argument for silva

Yes I was just using Emery as an extreme point.

Although his record outside of Spain isnít as impressive.

But Fonseca (I know heís off the table now) has a very similar record to Silva before he came to England.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blue slug on May 18, 2018, 03:08:09 AM
Has Fonseca signed a new deal at Shakhtar
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pdentith on May 18, 2018, 03:20:25 AM
Has Fonseca signed a new deal at Shakhtar
Yes he has so thatís one off the list.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: D_murph0278 on May 18, 2018, 03:23:40 AM
Yes he has so thatís one off the list.

There's no list...... it's Marco Silva.....
Hellloooooo!!!!!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Shogun on May 18, 2018, 03:27:33 AM
Drink a shot every time someone says Silva was relegated at Hull
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 18, 2018, 03:29:00 AM
Drink a shot every time someone says Silva was relegated at Hull

Haha. Nice work.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 18, 2018, 03:36:25 AM
Drink a shot every time someone says Silva was relegated at Hull

They were literally the worst team in the league as well.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 18, 2018, 03:38:31 AM
Drink a shot every time someone says Silva was relegated at Hull

WHA DID YOOOU FACKIN SAY!

IíLL FIGHT THE *hic* FACKIN LOROVYAAAS! 👊🏼💥
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on May 18, 2018, 03:42:50 AM
WHA DID YOOOU FACKIN SAY!

IíLL FIGHT THE *hic* FACKIN LOROVYAAAS! 👊🏼💥

Fancy a shag like?  :hug:
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 18, 2018, 03:44:44 AM
Fancy a shag like?  :hug:

Haha, ever the opportunist @TheTone (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4357) 👌🏼
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 18, 2018, 04:21:34 AM
Every cloud has one. We've just found ours.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Confucius on May 18, 2018, 06:09:14 AM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44150823

Good enough for Wenger... Good enough for me.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Gash on May 18, 2018, 06:12:48 AM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44150823

Good enough for Wenger... Good enough for me.

Good, let Arsenal have him.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ross on May 18, 2018, 06:12:58 AM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44150823

Good enough for Wenger... Good enough for me.

Sounds a bit Dodgy that..





....ner ner ner ner ner...
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 18, 2018, 06:17:49 AM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44150823

Good enough for Wenger... Good enough for me.

Yeah but Arsene could have gone a bit funny in his old age
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ih8redshite on May 18, 2018, 01:02:02 PM
LVG for me
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 18, 2018, 02:21:44 PM
I know who it won't be, so tissues back in the box lads. Fonseca's not coming. It's nailed on Silva.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Redartin on May 18, 2018, 02:30:19 PM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44150823

Good enough for Wenger... Good enough for me.
It's like a repeat of the Ferguson /Moyes thing at United, and we all know how that went. If we get our act together I think a top 6 place could be feasible.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 18, 2018, 02:35:40 PM
It's like a repeat of the Ferguson /Moyes thing at United, and we all know how that went. If we get our act together I think a top 6 place could be feasible.

Let's hope so, but talking about the above has been done before too. We need to have realistic expectations next season but any improvement on this one will be progress.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Redartin on May 18, 2018, 02:36:11 PM
Someone was talking on the radio yesterday about Emery going to Arsenal and one of those many experts ruled it out completely stating that Emery really struggled with the lingo in France, and for that reason, he couldn't see him coming to any team in the Prem, he could only see him returning to Spain.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on May 18, 2018, 02:54:00 PM
Someone was talking on the radio yesterday about Emery going to Arsenal and one of those many experts ruled it out completely stating that Emery really struggled with the lingo in France, and for that reason, he couldn't see him coming to any team in the Prem, he could only see him returning to Spain.

I never believe stuff like this, its not like the PSG team is full of French players, there are Brazilians, Uruguayans, Italians, Germans, Belgians and Spanish to name a few, it was probably the same when he was with Sevilla. Who cares if he cant talk to the press, Pochetino seemed to do okay for years with a translator. What matters is communicating on the pitch and regardless of where you go you'll have massive diversity and language barriers.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Brownie on May 18, 2018, 03:11:28 PM
I never believe stuff like this, its not like the PSG team is full of French players, there are Brazilians, Uruguayans, Italians, Germans, Belgians and Spanish to name a few, it was probably the same when he was with Sevilla. Who cares if he cant talk to the press, Pochetino seemed to do okay for years with a translator. What matters is communicating on the pitch and regardless of where you go you'll have massive diversity and language barriers.

Yeah but he was fucked trying to order his morning croissant- kept getting a bagel with cream cheese instead.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on May 18, 2018, 03:25:03 PM
Yeah but he was fucked trying to order his morning croissant- kept getting a bagel with cream cheese instead.

Apologies, thats a whole different kettle of fish then, completely understandable :)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 18, 2018, 03:34:58 PM
Had this today
Probably bordering on definite bollocks but thought I'd share

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 18, 2018, 04:02:49 PM
Alec, Ben, Ben, Brynley, Gav, Mike and Shane

All very trustworthy names, not Deano though, he sounds like a proper wrongun hm
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Alanvideo on May 18, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
Had this today
Probably bordering on definite bollocks but thought I'd share


..................sounds like Rafa's going to Tranmere then  :snigger:
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 18, 2018, 04:20:36 PM
Betting

Sila - 1/3
Moyes - 8/1
LVG - 8/1
Emery - 20/1
Enrique - 20/1
Arteta - 20/1
Rafa - 22/1
Rogers - 22/1
25/1 bar
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: sam of the south on May 18, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
Alec, Ben, Ben, Brynley, Gav, Mike and Shane

All very trustworthy names, not Deano though, he sounds like a proper wrongun hm

Like a modern, Welsh Trumpton
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 18, 2018, 05:00:48 PM
Betting

Sila - 1/3
Moyes - 8/1
LVG - 8/1
Emery - 20/1
Enrique - 20/1
Arteta - 20/1
Rafa - 22/1
Rogers - 22/1
25/1 bar

Moyes and LVG second favourites? Sigh
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 18, 2018, 05:02:51 PM
Its a one horse race really, knowing our luck we'd still finish second!!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 18, 2018, 05:08:52 PM
Fuck that.

Boss manager but not interested in having him at everton at all.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 18, 2018, 05:08:57 PM
There's no way in hell second or third favorites will even be considered by us.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 18, 2018, 05:09:43 PM
Marcos Senna that was

Shit I think it was!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 18, 2018, 05:18:23 PM
Shit I think it was!
Him and riquelme at goodison were amazing
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 18, 2018, 05:32:03 PM
Its a one horse race really, knowing our luck we'd still finish second!!
Fuckin hope not Macca, look whoís second
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on May 18, 2018, 05:34:15 PM
If we can have Sammy Lee here, even if that was only for half a season, I don't see any real restrictions on anyone coming in to manage us. In fact, I would venture to say, that despite the betting odds on show, Moyes has less chance of getting the Job than Benitez. :)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 18, 2018, 05:44:38 PM
Because his football is horrible and attritional and I hate him as a person.

Will get Newcastle 7-9th next year but I really donít want him
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 18, 2018, 05:49:51 PM
Him and riquelme at goodison were amazing

What a team they had.

Sorin, Forlan up top as well.

We actually did really well to stay in the tie considering the biffs we had
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 18, 2018, 05:50:57 PM
Need to remove Fonseca from the options, as he's signed a new contract.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11376785/paulo-fonseca-signs-new-two-year-deal-with-shakhtar-donetsk
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: pjk on May 18, 2018, 05:59:21 PM
Because his football is horrible and attritional and I hate him as a person.

Will get Newcastle 7-9th next year but I really donít want him



That's fair enough. I'm thinking he's 4th in the queue from what I can see. But I can also understand, that you local blues have to put up with the full blown treatment from their fawning, aggrandizing full kit prodigies. It won't be easy putting up with Benitez in situ as well. :)
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: themilkycoffees on May 18, 2018, 06:04:28 PM
Be arsed with Benitez. Decent manager but there's plenty of others out there.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 18, 2018, 06:10:30 PM
Be arsed with Benitez. Decent manager but there's plenty of others out there.
BFS needs a Spanish waiter to keep his sangria glass topped up, might be a position there
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 18, 2018, 06:12:36 PM
Rafa called us a small club not so long ago, he can fuck right off, I wouldn't let him clean the shitters at Finch Farm
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 18, 2018, 06:20:12 PM
Rafa called us a small club not so long ago, he can fuck right off, I wouldn't let him clean the shitters at Finch Farm
And thereís plenty of them at FF atm
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: arteta4spain on May 18, 2018, 06:24:22 PM
Just read that sky article; Arteta: a gamble worth taking.
I want him in. I think heís gonna do well personally. Loved him here as a player and with what Stubbs said in the article and the tutelage under Pep, I can see him going far. Plus heís good in the looks stakes too. Got it all hasnít he? Lucky bastard!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Ramjam on May 18, 2018, 06:27:55 PM
Just read that sky article; Arteta: a gamble worth taking.
I want him in. I think he's gonna do well personally. Loved him here as a player and with what Stubbs said in the article and the tutelage under Pep, I can see him going far. Plus he's good in the looks stakes too. Got it all hasn't he? Lucky bastard!
Need to change your name to arteta4skin, the love is clearly there
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2018, 06:40:33 PM
Benitez is a good manager, and so is Rodgers, but we just can't appoint them. The fanbase would be immediately divided (which we need to get away from), and the moment they had a bad run or a couple of poor results they would be slaughtered. It's always the way.

My Spurs mate says that's exactly what happened when they had George Graham. It was doomed from the beginning.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 18, 2018, 06:41:23 PM
Said it before, I'll say it again... Kenwright won't have Benitez at the helm. Not in a million years.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 18, 2018, 06:53:45 PM
Benitez is a good manager, and so is Rodgers, but we just can't appoint them. The fanbase would be immediately divided (which we need to get away from), and the moment they had a bad run or a couple of poor results they would be slaughtered. It's always the way.

My Spurs mate says that's exactly what happened when they had George Graham. It was doomed from the beginning.

Plus Benitez is a more defensive manager too.

Just a non option.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Waltzer on May 18, 2018, 07:02:26 PM
Said it before, I'll say it again... Kenwright won't have Benitez at the helm. Not in a million years.

Weve stooped lower than a snakes belly with the last appointment, nothing would surprise me now and its clear Kenwright doesnt make any decisions at Everton!
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Jamokachi on May 18, 2018, 07:03:20 PM
Weve stooped lower than a snakes belly with the last appointment, nothing would surprise me now and its clear Kenwright doesnt make any decisions at Everton!

He does, and this won't happen.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2018, 07:05:21 PM
As others have said, it's Marco Silva. It's over. Andy Hunter said it a few days ago. It's clearly a matter of sorting this compo agreement out, and then appointing him. If you've put money on someone else, you've lost the money.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: plumber on May 18, 2018, 07:20:39 PM
Said it before, I'll say it again... Kenwright won't have Benitez at the helm. Not in a million years.

And thank God for that.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: .Matty on May 18, 2018, 07:26:31 PM
I think its probably been Silva since the day he left Watford.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on May 18, 2018, 07:30:42 PM
never liked Arteta , will hate that shower even more if he ends up their manager

The tight fuckers should go all out for Conte or Allegri

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: BlueMaquis on May 18, 2018, 07:39:54 PM
Arteta? Can't understand that shout at all. Unsworth has a shedload more managerial experience than Arteta and he got slaughtered on here. We should be looking way above the experience level of these apprentices.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 18, 2018, 07:46:41 PM
never liked Arteta , will hate that shower even more if he ends up their manager

The tight fuckers should go all out for Conte or Allegri



Whoa. You've never liked Arteta?
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: brap2 on May 18, 2018, 07:58:58 PM
Whoa. You've never liked Arteta?

He is a bit oddly unarsed about everton since he left which is a bit shit. Seems to love arsenal more.

Shouldnít bother me but definitely does.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: arteta4spain on May 18, 2018, 08:05:34 PM
He is a bit oddly unarsed about everton since he left which is a bit shit. Seems to love arsenal more.

Shouldn't bother me but definitely does.
Deffo get that despite him being one of my fave players.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 18, 2018, 08:06:52 PM
It is going to take more than Marco Silva to get me arsed about Everton again . I am hoping Marcel Brands gets the club moving in the direction Moshiri has been waffling about . I think it is obvious these days that Managers are a bit secondary to DOF's . Got to get use to a bit of short termism I think .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TSGun on May 18, 2018, 08:10:37 PM
I do wonder what the mandate for the incoming manager will be.

We do seem to need a person with the ability effortlessly carry a hard hat down a Parisian runway.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2018, 08:15:50 PM
It is going to take more than Marco Silva to get me arsed about Everton again . I am hoping Marcel Brands gets the club moving in the direction Moshiri has been waffling about . I think it is obvious these days that Managers are a bit secondary to DOF's . Got to get use to a bit of short termism I think .

You must be a bit more encouraged by the actions and the ruthlessness of the last few days though? I know I am.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 18, 2018, 08:33:49 PM
You must be a bit more encouraged by the actions and the ruthlessness of the last few days though? I know I am.

I am definitely but we arenít getting many football decisions right (apart from the sackings) by law of averages weíll get some right if we keep going. Not 100% confident it will be this time though. Just because we make shit decisions
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 18, 2018, 08:34:39 PM
You must be a bit more encouraged by the actions and the ruthlessness of the last few days though? I know I am.

I am but I am just a bit disappointed at the laughing stock season we have had .
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 18, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
I am definitely but we arenít getting many football decisions right (apart from the sackings) by law of averages weíll get some right if we keep going. Not 100% confident it will be this time though. Just because we make shit decisions

Look at it this way. We now know another way of not being able to run a football club properly.

Every failure comes new knowledge and as long as those failures aren't repeated, that's all we can do.

After last summer though, and the excitement it brought (in the early stages), it is wise to be cautious though.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: van der Meyde on May 18, 2018, 08:39:12 PM
Plus Benitez is a more defensive manager too.
Do you really think style of play is so important to the fans?

I would have thought more base emotions like being able to have hope/optimism were more important. Defensive managers don't necessarily preclude that.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheTone on May 18, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Whoa. You've never liked Arteta?

Ya i never took to him at all, and as @brap2 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666)  said there, he seemed to love all things Arsenal more than us, big dirty Arsenal head on him now the more I think of him, fuming here
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 18, 2018, 08:42:34 PM
Do you really think style of play is so important to the fans?

I would have thought more base emotions like being able to have hope/optimism were more important. Defensive managers don't necessarily preclude that.

People wouldn't care about style of play for the Atleti dude.  Rafa Benitez?  Not so much.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: GLewis on May 18, 2018, 08:45:26 PM
Do you really think style of play is so important to the fans?

I would have thought more base emotions like being able to have hope/optimism were more important. Defensive managers don't necessarily preclude that.

Not normally but I think thereís been a build up of frustration that we donít really go after games enough.

Add in to how a lot of teams are now playing, and I think a defensive manager would need to have some wins against the top teams to override what might be seen as ďboringĒ wins vs the dross.

A tough act in the current climate.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2018, 08:46:24 PM
I'm sure his Everton time is very dear to him. It might just be that he went to Arsenal when he was older, a bit more mature, a bit more receptive to the world around him, and ready to take on board other people's wisdom, and someone like Wenger's there. I don't think it reflects badly on him or his time at Everton.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Macca77 on May 18, 2018, 08:49:09 PM
Lets not forget Arteta scored for us while he was playing for Arsenal, the love he has for us is still strong
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: dunkster on May 18, 2018, 08:55:43 PM
He went to arsenal to try and win things that he was never gonna achieve here. Can't blame anyone for doing it really.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: TheRam on May 18, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
Not normally but I think thereís been a build up of frustration that we donít really go after games enough.

Add in to how a lot of teams are now playing, and I think a defensive manager would need to have some wins against the top teams to override what might be seen as ďboringĒ wins vs the dross.

A tough act in the current climate.

Plus winning football is more often than not good, entertaining football to watch.

Obviously there's exceptions to the rule, but on the whole it's true and always has been.

Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: AllyBlue14 on May 18, 2018, 09:20:41 PM
Is Simeone not an option? I mean, there's almost no chance of us getting him, but didn't he say in November that it was an interesting project but he'd reevaluate at the end of the season?

May have just fabricated that entirely.

Loved Arteta at Everton but I agree that he seems to see himself as more of an ex-Arsenal player than ex-Evertonian. There might be reasons behind it, but it pisses me off.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: blargins on May 18, 2018, 09:28:30 PM
Entertainment is very subjective.

Personally, I think it's the whole package. Playing great football is fantastic, but it's rare. It normally happens in patches during games. You might get the odd game where it's fantastic the full 90 minutes, but that's rare.

Entertainment for me comes in the fight, the passion, the excitement and the hope. Knowing each player is giving their all and fighting for the cause. That's entertainment.

One of the greatest matches I remember experiencing was when we beat Arsenal at home in the snow with a last minute AJ winner. That was entertaining. That's what brought tingles down the spine.

A couple of seasons we were incredible when we blew Wigan off the park in a 4-0 win. We played some fantastic football that day, and it was great to watch, but it came nowhere near close to the entertainment of that last minute Arsenal win.

And both matches were simple premier league games, so had little riding on them compared to say a cup game.

That's what I want us to get back to. To being able to care again and to get hyped up. Not what we experienced this last season where at one point I wasn't that bothered if we actually got relegated. I never want to feel that again, but the entire team deserved it at that point.
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 18, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
Is Simeone not an option? I mean, there's almost no chance of us getting him, but didn't he say in November that it was an interesting project but he'd reevaluate at the end of the season?

May have just fabricated that entirely.

Loved Arteta at Everton but I agree that he seems to see himself as more of an ex-Arsenal player than ex-Evertonian. There might be reasons behind it, but it pisses me off.

Zero chance/ heís at 1 of the top 5 or 6 teams in the world, they are miles ahead of us and if he fancied a move theyíd be others that are miles ahead of us interested. Absolutely impossible without a city style takeover
Title: Re: [News]Who will be Everton boss next season?
Post by: Normm on May 18, 2018, 11:14:14 PM
Fonseca is off the list, but this "other" guy could be great! - 72 votes, so far.