Yeah Llorente would be a good signing. I want more than anything else a creative deep lying midfielder. People talk about the number ten but our attacks are so slow because we don't look to do anything before the half way line that doesn't involve a hopeful punt or random diagonal. Barry had the ability but not the youth. Arteta could do it in his sleep we need someone akin to that
One player? MataMata is actually a really good shout and could work out well for us, strong midfield man with a great passing range.
Add:
Sessegnon
Tierney
Lascelles
Doucoure
Rodriguez
Choudhury
Traore
So if we had one player who we could realistically sign in the summer who would you want?
For me I’d like to see us sign Llorente from Spurs, he’s to good to be sat on their bench and would work well with Siggy as they did at Swansea. With Rooney likely to be off to the USA that would open up the 10 role and allow the partnership to flourish
Mata is actually a really good shout and could work out well for us, strong midfield man with a great passing range.We get completely dominated, physically, in midfield. We need a play-playing tank like Dembele.
CB : ...I'm sure I said this last year about your team picks but pretty much spot on what we need .
LB : Tierney
CM : Carvalho (replaces schneiderlin)
CM : Paredes / Torres (replaces rooney)
LW : Ziyech
ST : Correa
A centre-mid who can pick the ball up off the defence, turn and carry it 40 yards forward.
Florian Thauvin.
I'd take anyone who sounds like a Game of Thrones character. I'll take any kind of light hearted amusement from Everton at the minute.
Lewis Cook
Say we're playing a 4-3-3 next season, I'd really like to see Gana as the deepest of those three midfielders, screening the fuck out of the defence, and laying the ball off to better players.Great shouts. Great balance. And attainable players.
Then in front of him someone who can pass the ball, both in terms of retaining it, and playing probing forward passes when needed, and a box to box monster with more quality on the ball than Gana.
Not necessarily these players but something like
Gana
Doucoure Lewis Cook
Working on the fonseca model of the 2 defensive midfielders, one is very defensive, holding player (gana and baningime)
The other player is a box to box, pick a pass, turn defence into attack type. I don't believe we possess anyone like that. (I think it's a position fred does for fonseca this season.)
Do you think Sig could play in that role?
Harry McGuire or Jamelle Lascelles / C.B.
Sessegnon or Luke Shaw / L.B.
Milinkovic Savic, Lazio / Centre Mid.
Milik, Napoli / C.F.
Add that to a returning Lookman and Sandro. Fuck Williams, Martina, Rooney, and Bolasie off. Bingo!
You've mixed some right shite with some world class players way out of our league, kudos
Harry McGuire or Jamelle Lascelles / C.B.
Sessegnon or Luke Shaw / L.B.
Milinkovic Savic, Lazio / Centre Mid.
Milik, Napoli / C.F.
Add that to a returning Lookman and Sandro. Fuck Williams, Martina, Rooney, and Bolasie off. Bingo!
How much would Vardy cost?
Scored in 11 out of 14 matches against the top 6 this season.
Ridiculous
I’m going to spend all summer moaning that we shouldn’t sign him because he’s too old and he’ll go and bloody do it again next year an all.
Is that the quickest ban ever??? or is he still here, hopefully not the realist :wanker:
Wish Moshiri was as ruthless as these mods :snigger:
To be fair most banned people get another chance if they come back on after a while but Realist has rejoined several times since and has been a bellend on every occasion. Today he just signed up to start an "I told you so" thread and deliberately try and get people's backs up. Anyone patting themselves on the back and trying to score points on the internet for being correct about the season we've just had can get fucked as far as I'm concerned. There's absolutely fuck all to be smug about.
To be fair most banned people get another chance if they come back on after a while but Realist has rejoined several times since and has been a bellend on every occasion. Today he just signed up to start an "I told you so" thread and deliberately try and get people's backs up. Anyone patting themselves on the back and trying to score points on the internet for being correct about the season we've just had can get fucked as far as I'm concerned. There's absolutely fuck all to be smug about.
To be fair most banned people get another chance if they come back on after a while but Realist has rejoined several times since and has been a bellend on every occasion. Today he just signed up to start an "I told you so" thread and deliberately try and get people's backs up. Anyone patting themselves on the back and trying to score points on the internet for being correct about the season we've just had can get fucked as far as I'm concerned. There's absolutely fuck all to be smug about.
What thread?
Doesn’t he owe me money. Was he the 1 who I bet 500 quid we’d finish top 8? Bring him back!!!
It was removed.
It was removed.
Who was it? Bogie?
No, Realist.
Oh he's back is he?
Banned again already 😂
Banned again already 😂
Ooh...who's been banned and where and what for??...most exciting everton related stuff I've heard for months
Apparently Realist re-signed up, posted an I told you so thread and got frogmarched quicker than the Flash
I think 3 signings is needed: I'd class all these as attainable.
1. Centre midfielder who can pass the ball and start attacks - Will Hughes, Max Meyer, Cyprien.
2. Athletic Left back - Luke Shaw, Ryan Bertrand (bit older now), Kennedy, Grimaldo.
3. Centre Back - Still not really convinced by any of or options apart from Jags, which is sad. I'd love us to go for Tah. Him and Holgate would be what I'd go for. alternatives would be: Mawson or Sarr.
Bring Lookman back in, give more minutes to Vlasic and the attack will take care of itself over time. I'd be tempted to try Walcott up top too.
Patrick Van Aanholt, has been looking really good recently. Should also be an attainable target. Unfortunately Bainesy is done at this level.
Apparently Realist re-signed up, posted an I told you so thread and got frogmarched quicker than the Flash
I think Loftus-Cheek has the potential to be a very good player. I know Chelsea sell high but he’s the type we should be looking at to build a new team with, ones who are at the right stage of their development curve who would kick on under the right guidance and management.
I think Loftus-Cheek has the potential to be a very good player. I know Chelsea sell high but he's the type we should be looking at to build a new team with, ones who are at the right stage of their development curve who would kick on under the right guidance and management.
The transfer window opens on Thursday...are we in danger of being left behind, this summer?Probably, no manager and no DOF to make the decisions on recruitment assuming the reports are right regarding you know who and you know who
The transfer window opens on Thursday...are we in danger of being left behind, this summer?
Leon Osman endorsing the signing of 35 year old Yaya Toure. Is he for real? The guy is finished at this level just like Rooney and Jags
Leon Osman endorsing the signing of 35 year old Yaya Toure. Is he for real? The guy is finished at this level just like Rooney and Jags
Leon Osman endorsing the signing of 35 year old Yaya Toure. Is he for real? The guy is finished at this level just like Rooney and JagsWorryingly I think the club would see the signing as a big positive, and it's anything but.
Loftus-Cheek would be a great signing for us.With a stable Director of Football players like this would be on our radar as the top clubs will be looking for a bigger profile and we're the best of the rest. Although he'd probably go to West Ham.
Anyone know how the young lad we signed from QPR is progressing (Bowler) will he be a possible first team squad player next season?
One thing I was thinking last night - for the first time in quite a while we don’t really have any saleable assets that we could quickly move on to a big club for a profit. (Maybe Lookman, Gueye).
Think we should definitely try and pick up young, CL potential players that we can move on in a year or two ala Red Bull.
Moshiri must have a finite amount of money, so especially considering how inefficient the market is I.e you get a lot less for your money (hence why scouting with data is more important to identify undervalued talents) we do need less investment in sigurdssons and more Lookmans.
We don't need to go mad this summer, just be sensible and find the right players.Agree with that, probably 4 in and lookman returning would be adequate, the outs should be about 6,
Agree with that, probably 4 in and lookman returning would be adequate, the outs should be about 6,
Williams
Schniderlin
Bolasie
Rooney
Klaassen
Sandro
Depending on the new guy and the system he sees, it could well be that Klaassen & Schneiderlin both have rules to playOr maybe even roles
Or maybe even roles (https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji12.png)
we saw what happens when you bring in too many players last season and don't have a balance to the squad, so no point doing the same , we need a LB for the future
of the main squad i would be happy to sell Williams, Martina, Besic, Schneiderlin. Sandro. so on that point we then need replacements for them, an other CB ,LB, DCM,( box to box type) and a striker.
a proper balance and not having your wingers or wide men on the toes of the fullbacks would help and hopefully see the best of Lookman, walcott, Bolassie Vlassic.
we saw what happens when you bring in too many players last season and don't have a balance to the squad, so no point doing the same , we need a LB for the future
of the main squad i would be happy to sell Williams, Martina, Besic, Schneiderlin. Sandro. so on that point we then need replacements for them, an other CB ,LB, DCM,( box to box type) and a striker.
a proper balance and not having your wingers or wide men on the toes of the fullbacks would help and hopefully see the best of Lookman, walcott, Bolassie Vlassic.
Wont be happy if Keane and Jagielka are our centre backs come august,I definitely want 2 new centre halfs, maybe Holgate can be a regular but I'm not sure about himYep, Keane is fuckin awful and jags has had his day, Holgate still a bit raw and lightweight so we could do with a couple of beasts in there one of them that can bring it out from the back like Alderwield at Spurs who incidentally is looking for a move.
Agree with that, probably 4 in and lookman returning would be adequate, the outs should be about 6,
Williams
Schniderlin
Bolasie
Rooney
Klaassen
Sandro
Loftus-Cheek for me.
Gana to sweep in front of the back four, a 6'3" physical presence next to him who is comfortable on the ball, can stride forward and turn our play into attack and is at the right age to improve. Then Sig to provide the goal scoring threat up top. Looks a good balance of age and ability to complement each other. I like the look of tall physical midfielders in the centre of the park, Matic looks a beast when he's stood in there.
Loftus-Cheek for me.
Gana to sweep in front of the back four, a 6'3" physical presence next to him who is comfortable on the ball, can stride forward and turn our play into attack and is at the right age to improve. Then Sig to provide the goal scoring threat up top. Looks a good balance of age and ability to complement each other. I like the look of tall physical midfielders in the centre of the park, Matic looks a beast when he's stood in there.
I agree with you when it comes to how many you can change but still Lookman, Walcott, Bolasie and Vlasic VS Sallah, Mane, Firminho, Can, Wijnaldum or VS Hazard, Willian, Giroud, Morata, Fabreagas, Pedro or VS Alli, Lamela, Eriksen, Kane - not to mention the Manchester teams - we are in a different league...The only way to manage competing with them without buying a lot of players would be to get three top of the shelf attackers. We need to start with beeing a threat up-front that in itself will make it easier to play as a defender and would be the only way forward.
RLC has played out wide all season.
Which is bonkers. Hes not built for it and its not his best position.
Loftus-Cheek for me.Agree with all of that
Gana to sweep in front of the back four, a 6'3" physical presence next to him who is comfortable on the ball, can stride forward and turn our play into attack and is at the right age to improve. Then Sig to provide the goal scoring threat up top. Looks a good balance of age and ability to complement each other. I like the look of tall physical midfielders in the centre of the park, Matic looks a beast when he's stood in there.
We are realistically not going to compete with the top 6 next season and I think people need to accept that.
Yes we’ve had a good couple of days and can look forward to next season but as we discovered this year you can’t throw 8 new players into a team and expect it to work. Nor are we in a place to compete with just 3 or 4 signings.
We don’t want to be that self entitled club we’re being made out in the media this week with BigSam being booted out do we? It’s going to take a while to be at that level, this is the start of a new project not a miricle invitation to the top 6.
Let’s look to solidify that 7th place and get some cup runs in and maintain a squad that’s both big enough and good enough for Europe year in and year out.
(Justin Kluivert)
He's one of Mino Raiola's clients isn't he? Wonder if the Brands connection could get him here?
We are realistically not going to compete with the top 6 next season and I think people need to accept that.
Yes we’ve had a good couple of days and can look forward to next season but as we discovered this year you can’t throw 8 new players into a team and expect it to work. Nor are we in a place to compete with just 3 or 4 signings.
We don’t want to be that self entitled club we’re being made out in the media this week with BigSam being booted out do we? It’s going to take a while to be at that level, this is the start of a new project not a miricle invitation to the top 6.
Let’s look to solidify that 7th place and get some cup runs in and maintain a squad that’s both big enough and good enough for Europe year in and year out.
I'm expecting Arsenal to implode next season so do think an opportunity could be there to break the top 6, but no meltdown if we don't.Same at Chelsea, Hazard wants out and apparently a lot of unrest amongst the squad as Conte is extremely unpopular
As long as we see a progression I'll be happy.
Same at Chelsea, Hazard wants out and apparently a lot of unrest amongst the squad as Conte is extremely unpopular
Surely Mourinho is due an implosion..
Arsenal- Think they'll struggle next season. We've seen with ourselves and United how teams struggle replacing a long standing manager.
Chelsea- Massively tightened the purse strings. Finished 5th and we all know how the players like throwing new managers under the bus.
Spurs- If Levy doesn't pay the wages there's going to be a mass exodus there. Starting with the manager and Kane.
United- Jose's third season and we all know what happens there. I'm putting good money on him to be the first manager to go.
Liverpool- 4th season under Klopp. At Dortmund he burnt everybody out by this point.
For me the top 6 isn't cut and dry as everybody thinks. We get the summer right and there's places up for grabs IMO.
I'm expecting Arsenal to implode next season so do think an opportunity could be there to break the top 6, but no meltdown if we don't.
As long as we see a progression I'll be happy.
Think i'm going to put a tenner on them to get relegated, just for jokes.
If Silva does get the job, which players out there will thrive under his style of play. Were there any standouts from Watford or Hull, who really benefitted from his management style?
If Silva does get the job, which players out there will thrive under his style of play. Were there any standouts from Watford or Hull, who really benefitted from his management style?
I really doubt Watford would allow us to sign any of there players.
Not too sure there's many players that would be an upgrade anyway.
Like the sound of this Max guy, the left back.Yes, so did I, German international, Fast with a great left peg and at£25m seems to be ok for a 25year old
I’d be extremely disappointed if we were looking at buying Watford players. Dropping possibly 40m quid on “proven” decent premier league players is just gonna see us run out of money before we make a competive team. We’ve got to hire the right staff to find the next 1s cheap
Yeah you'd like to think with Silva's experience of European football and Brands knowledge of European and South American players, that we won't have to hear the dreaded phrase 'proven Premier league' too often this season.
Brands has already talked about the inflated market in England and the importance of value for money, after the announcement of the move, which I took as 'don't worry, I'll be looking beyond the Prem'.
Get 8 bottles of Peroni instead and sit in the sun. You'll have more fun.
He's a South American specialist isn't he?
Any Sporting Lisbon players worth a look at, most of them have already said they want to leave after getting battered by their own fans last week?
Bas Dost maybe? 61 goals in 61 games for them
Didn't he get a really bad head injury recently
Is Manny Fernandes still playing? :whistle:In the portugese wc squad
Is Manny Fernandes still playing? :whistle:
In the portugese wc squad
Is Manny Fernandes still playing? :whistle:
https://twitter.com/mexicoworldcup/status/998678404017750017?s=20
I expected a Spurs implosion this season to be honest.
coming soon, i expect this season, i dont think Levy will break the wage structure and that will mean Poch and the players will abandon ship.
dont know why tho.. 140k or even 100k a week is more than fucking enough,
Poch is 100% staying for next season. I think the oppposite. I think they'll be stronger next season back in their own stadium (which looks incredible).The stadium does look boss but that alone won’t guarantee anything.
The stadium does look boss but that alone won’t guarantee anything.
Course not, but I think it'll galvanise them. One of the big things this season was how much Spurs were gonna struggle at Wembley. They dealt with it fine and had an excellent season.They did after a slow start (apart from playing us) but I just get the feeling that a wee bit of anxiety is running through the club as they’ve still won fuck all with a quality team who are now getting frustrated and about change home ground again as well as talk of high profile players talking more and more about bigger money elsewhere
They did after a slow start (apart from playing us) but I just get the feeling that a wee bit of anxiety is running through the club as theyve still won fuck all with a quality team who are now getting frustrated and about change home ground again as well as talk of high profile players talking more and more about bigger money elsewhere
I think you're projecting your wishes on the situation. There is no evidence whatsoever that backs up your view.
That's a West Ham site. Trust me, nobody at Spurs is remotely threatened by anything West Ham have ever done. They perceive them as an irrelevance.They are irrelevant but they are throwing a lot of money at a manager, in fact double what Pochettino is on, that’s what I mean when I say the Spurs squad and manager will soon start to ask the hard questions of Levy
They are irrelevant but they are throwing a lot of money at a manager, in fact double what Pochettino is on, thats what I mean when I say the Spurs squad and manager will soon start to ask the hard questions of Levy
I expected a Spurs implosion this season to be honest.
Still a hell of a lot of work to do to get anywhere close to Arsenal let alone beyond.
Eh? Spurs are comfortably better than Arsenal.
Sorry, two different thoughts in that.
Thought one was I expected Spurs to struggle more last season.
Thought two was that we have a long way to go to get close to Arsenal.
If we were ever going to get close to Arsenal then last season was it. Some might say this season too but when I see a front three of Ozil, Mkhitaryan and Aubameyang then we've got some way to go to match that, especially if they sign some quality at the back and midfield.
Sorry, two different thoughts in that.
Thought one was I expected Spurs to struggle more last season.
Thought two was that we have a long way to go to get close to Arsenal.
Didn't he get a really bad head injury recentlyYeah done by fans apparently
Rondon anyone?? 16.5 million pound release clause. 28 years old. Showed he was a class act after the McCarthy injury. Powerful player. Worth a punt at that money surely and could he play with Tosun or too similar?
Rondon anyone?? 16.5 million pound release clause. 28 years old. Showed he was a class act after the McCarthy injury. Powerful player. Worth a punt at that money surely and could he play with Tosun or too similar?
Does silva tend to play the same 4-2-3-1 formation we are used to?
It's amazing that people want us to push on to challenge the top 6 and then in the same breath say Rondon would a) be a good addition and b) be decent value at £16.5 million!
Scored about 8 goals across two seasons.
Missed about 8 chances in one game against us at their place. If DCL gets dogs abuse for his finishing then this guy wouldn't stand a chance.
Scored about 8 goals across two seasons.He’s more prolific than I thought.
If we want to be more than a mid-table side, we shouldn't be signing older players from the bottom of the table.
Especially attackers.
Scored about 8 goals across two seasons.Slight over reaction
Evans at 4m seems like an exception? That would be too cheap to turn down
Spurs are the model still. Young, powerful, technically gifted players that can be moulded and developed into a unit. Swerve your Rondons la.
Defensible but taking into account wages, a decline that could start any year, and the fact that two of our first team CBs are already over 30, I wouldnt do it.
Llorente? (Sorry, just playing Devil's Advocate)
Llorente? (Sorry, just playing Devil's Advocate)
Walcott is potentially that but we need a left sided threat as well. Bolasie just won't cut it.
A bold signature move for someone like lozano or rashford would be good.
Lozano on one side and Lookman on the other.
And a nippy little playmaking forward in the middle who’s comfortable dropping deep, pressing high or running channels.
Walcott? Minus the playmaking.
I wish we could get Mata. Even aging he would be perfectHe would certainly stabilise the midfield and add a level of steel and composure to the squad.
Playmaker? Whats wrong with Sigurdsson?
Pace? Walcott on the right, Lookman on the left? With a fast, goal scoring PROPER class striker through the middle is what we need. Add a midfield general and invest in our ageing centre back situation too. Sorting a decent pacey attack keeps opposition teams from venturing forward and risking supported attacks, so it would help with our defence. I really think we need to push the boat out and sign a Lukaku type again and have a manager with the balls to play with 2 hard working wingers.
Would love Rashford or Martial if either are genuinely available
Sigurdsson really isn’t a playmaker. We need someone who goes past players and with better creativity. He’s a good player. Should be in the team but he’s not a playmaker
Sigurdsson is like a kicker in the NFL. If we could put him in at every deadball and then change him again it would be perfect. As Steve Walsh and Koeman should know that is actually not allowed and hence we should never have used 40-50 million pounds for him. Dreadfull signing.
He didn't actually do that much from dead balls last season, but he's still a decent player and worth a spot in the squad. His outlay will be beaten again this summer so it won't "feel" as bad. The 30 mill we paid for Bolasie feels worse to me, even before his injury.
Can’t see us spending £45m+ on a player any time soon.
Well we need to lol
Can’t see us spending £45m+ on a player any time soon.
Think we need to buy the right player and not be to concerned about spending “big” really. We’ve wasted an awful lot recently on “premier league proven” players who ultimately aren’t that much better than what we have and have no scope for developing, wrong age and wrong time for premium prices.
I reckon we need to look for younger, hungrier players with potential to develope and grow here, and they aren’t the ones you’d need to break the bank for most of the time.
45m would be the going rate for a half decent player now. Transfer fee inflation isn’t stopping anytime soon
I'd prefer that model too, but a big name here or there wouldn't go amiss. We need to be finding the next Salah and that type of player ideally.
And a few Walcott type bargains are always good too. I think if we'd have got Sig for 30 and Walcott for 30, we wouldn't be so concerned about Sig's price and yet the two together are still a 60 million outlay.
To be honest I’ve been underwhelmed by both and expect there’s much better for a lot less.
Maybe it’s all been down to the tactics of the managers but neither have impressed or excited since they came I’d say and considering the respective ages I don’t see them getting much better next season regardless of who’s in charge.
Can’t see us spending £45m+ on a player any time soon.
I reckon we will, spend big again this summer
I'd rather pay less, build a squad of hard workers and young hungry talents than splash a load for the sake of it
spend the money on quality... not quantity! If we have a chance to bring in that splash the cash.
When people mention Rondon I start to wonder what they aim at... 16-10 on tabell...
Martial we should go all inn on in my opinion... offer him £150.000 a week and pay what they demand.
Said last season we needed 2-3 key top class signings. Will be the same this time.
And I think thats where our historic recruitment policy has fallen over. We havent got the stature, at present, to recruit top class players, which leads us to paying loads for 'very good' players. Moshiri tried to run before he could walk and its set us back, i think we'll be a bit more pragmatic and get players we actually need, rather than looking for a big name/big signing just to make a statement.
45m would be the going rate for a half decent player now. Transfer fee inflation isnt stopping anytime soon
Only if you have Usmanov's personal phone number.
I've got Bale's nephew on hand. He's only 6 though so I don't know if he's got much sway
Unsworth talking about how we identify youth talents in the echo.
Absolutely nothing about stats, data or identifying profiles. Not that I would expect him to go into that or even be into it, but it really, really should be a massive part of our process now....just look at Liverpool.
Overnight they’ve just sorted themselves a CL level midfield. What are we doing? Watching YouTube clips maybe...
Bale for £200m, anyone?
Appointing a new DoF to put an entirely new structure into place that will take time to manifest?
Yeah 100% my hope - my arse is just going here it’s not even June and I’ve completely flapped it
Yeah 100% my hope - my arse is just going here it’s not even June and I’ve completely flapped it
They won't win the league anytime soon. 25 points behind City, and City will get better. Ok, they will probably challenge for cups, but even then, Saturday was a massive, massive chance for that club. They might not make it back to a CL final for 15 years. They were lucky to get a good draw (City aside) in a year that was generally weak for the elite clubs.
They've missed the boat massively.
I love you
He’s been doing my mental state the world of good for about 3 months.
Stepped up a gear this year BD. An eye on Glewis / Rhys poster of the year spot imo
Unsworth talking about how we identify youth talents in the echo.How exactly do you expect Unsworth and his team to do that though?
Absolutely nothing about stats, data or identifying profiles. Not that I would expect him to go into that or even be into it, but it really, really should be a massive part of our process now....just look at Liverpool.
Overnight they’ve just sorted themselves a CL level midfield. What are we doing? Watching YouTube clips maybe...
How exactly do you expect Unsworth and his team to do that though?
You can't really do that with players who've barely played a first team game, can you.
You’re right. I’m sure that sort of data does exist for youth leagues but no idea how representative it would even be.Agree on the general principle, like. Although I'm not sure I'd really credit Liverpool as a triumph of analytics, more of joined up thinking.
Like I say, just flapping.
Agree on the general principle, like. Although I'm not sure I'd really credit Liverpool as a triumph of analytics, more of joined up thinking.
They've obviously done really well. I just don't think it takes much in the way of analytics to have identified Salah (20+ G+A in his last two seasons at Roma), Mane (15+ G+A in his two seasons at Southampton) or Firmino (17+ G+A in his last two seasons at Hoffenheim). Every man and their dog who Virgil Van Dijk and Oxlade-Chamberlain were and they had competition from big clubs. Even their signings for next season, Keita and Fabinho, were consistently knocking in 10+ G+A from deeper positions in competitive leagues.
I think it's the age profile more than anything. They've bought players at an age where there is plenty of opportunity for them to grow, both in ability and in value. Makes for sustainable squad planning and future proofs the coming years.Definitely. Their recent signings all have the attributes that are needed to play in a Klopp side. The defensive players are able to contribute on the ball and play a high line, while those in midfield are all able to run quickly for days.
Definitely. Their recent signings all have the attributes that are needed to play in a Klopp side. The defensive players are able to contribute on the ball and play a high line, while those in midfield are all able to run quickly for days.
There's just a lot of coherent thought going on there and it really doesn't take long to turn things around. It's why I've got a fair bit of hope for the future now we've got Brands in.
I just hope he shares a similar view as the majority of fans and identifies high energy and pace as requisites.Must admit I'm less of an aesthete. I'll take any style that wins football matches personally. :)
Our youth talents trump all over Liverpool’s so I don’t see an issue.
Does it? We haven’t produced a top quality player since rooney and I wouldn’t even hazard a guess on the 1 before him. We seem to produce a lot of decent players but nowt that could play for a top 4 side.
Does it? We haven’t produced a top quality player since rooney and I wouldn’t even hazard a guess on the 1 before him. We seem to produce a lot of decent players but nowt that could play for a top 4 side.
Barkley and Rodwell were both bought by the top sides just hasn’t/ isn’t working out.
But we should be aiming for a consistent level of player. You should be able to sell the club to young players that there’s a very good chance of a pro career if you sign up with us as that’s what most players end up as.
Your world class players are mainly luck.
And who have Liverpool produced?
Alexander-Arnold who is riding a wave and could well fall by the way side and bought Dominic Solanke who has been woeful.
Surely that depends on what they demand. We actually did this last season. From a position of power we still paid top whack for Pickford Keane and sigurdsson. We need to find value not pay what they demand regardlessDon't agree with you on that one. Pickford and Sigurdsson we paid lot's of money for and I would say they have been by fare the best players this season. They had also showed the season before and so one that they are premier leauge proven quality.
Don't agree with you on that one. Pickford and Sigurdsson we paid lot's of money for and I would say they have been by fare the best players this season. They had also showed the season before and so one that they are premier leauge proven quality.
Keane had one good season, thats it.
I agree that we have to find good money for value, but then we need to sign young players for the future. In my opinion we have many allready in the youth system that will be first team regulars in the coming years given the chance.
Whereas in the meantime Liverpool are regularly selling garbage like Kevin Stewart for £8m.
It’s no good us having big talents like ledson or Walsh or what looks like probably Pennington, Galloway, Browning - look like big talents and end up having a career somewhere, after we’ve released them for free or for pennies.
That’s mainly because of who they are.
Utd creamed millions for years off very average players who had made 1/2 league cup appearances because people assume they must be good.
Rather than the quality of player we produce, we need to be better (probably more ruthless too) at shifting people before it’s realised that they’re not that good.
I think that we hold on to players though as if they develop later we don’t want to miss out.
Yep, hell people were talking about how we missed out by not keeping Shane Duffy!
One player? Mata
Add:
Sessegnon
Tierney
Lascelles
Doucoure
Rodriguez
Choudhury
Traore
Great list, although which Rodriguez?Hamez
What about an offer for Victor Wanyama? I think he could do a job for us in the DM position
Mildly concerned about our Gana.
I bloody love him, but what sort of midfield can he function in? Sounds like we want a holder/destroyer/distributor with the Carvalho/Torreira links (bang up for either or both, maybe torreira over Carvalho - he’s like a good Besic)...but if we’re being honest, Schneiderlin is that sort of player an all, and throughout his career in the Prem has actually been one of the best at it in the league.
Either way they need a replacement for Rooney - a player who wants on the ball CONSTANTLY and wants to dribble up the pitch or make killer balls.
I dunno, can’t really guess what midfield we’re going to have, and Gana with Carvalho or Torreira sounds like it might have similar problems as we had this year, especially if we have Gylfi in the 10.
Whereve we been linked to Torreira?
I think Gana is more of the player Silva wants than Schneiderlin.
Seen a few bits and bobs - articles and twitter chat mostly like.
Apparently has a release clause.
He’s a world class destroyer, but I’m not sure he can sit on his own, and we know he can’t go forward.
I love him but I just can’t work out what sort of 3 man midfield we will have. The only one that worked this year was I think
Rooney (distributor)
Gana (press/forward) Davies (same)
So maybe :
Carvalho/Torreira
Gana Ozyakup
And then what’s ganas job? Cause I don’t really want him legging forward anymore.
overthinking it I think, and I don’t really know what I’m talking about re: cm roles, the basic message here is : I’m worried about how it’s going to fit together in the middle, but I know it’s very important that it does..
Maybe have Gana deeper as the destroyer, and tell him to just lay 5/10 balls to team-mates when he wins it, and have the playmaker type as one of the players in front of Gana?
Seen a few bits and bobs - articles and twitter chat mostly like.
Apparently has a release clause.
I've only seen him linked to Napoli. Would take him like.
Yeah will probably be jorginhos replacement I assume?
Meh, would be well into him but can’t see it.
Would like to test zenit for Paredes.
Not sure i've seen anything of Paredes?
Not sure i've seen anything of Paredes?
I'd assume in a more structured team then Gueye wouldn't seem as bad with the ball.
I think he should be fine to be instructed to carry the ball from our half up towards the other team's area and then as long as there's a plan for who/ where he will pass it then that would be ok.
When he's left to use his own ingenuity then he looks lost.
Tenuous Arnautovic link in tomorrow's shite rag.Linked with man u for 50m yday
Linked with man u for 50m yday
Swerve
£50m for Arnautovic?
Fuck, if that's a yardstick of the prices it's going to be a barren summer for most.
All a bit Steve Walsh with the players were getting linked with at the moment.
Think it’s all lazy stuff.
I’m sure we’ll start seeing us linked with a better profile of player soon.
Seen loads of twitter chat about Vardy and Wilshere - fuck that.
Torreira
Diop
Maddison
Lozano
Ziyech
Batsuayi
Is Batshuayi still possibly available? Had thought that availability window closed. Be fully buzzing if we got him. A front line with him, Lookman, and eventually Onyekuru? Could be special.
Is Batshuayi still possibly available? Had thought that availability window closed. Be fully buzzing if we got him. A front line with him, Lookman, and eventually Onyekuru? Could be special.
Isn’t he injured? Did well at Dortmund but thought he got himself a quite serious injury that ended his season and World Cup hopes
When you say "better profile" do you mean a well known established player?
I’m sure we’ll start seeing us linked with a better profile of player soon.
When you say "better profile" do you mean a well known established player?
Is Brands not more of a bargin hunter than going for a big named player.
For eg: Jose Angelino, a left back from Man City. Currently linked with PSV for €10m.
I'm assuming one of Brands last recommendations.
Watford say they will not entertain bids under £40m for winger Richarlison, 21, and will not sell the Brazilian to Everton for any price. (Mirror)Just bring Deulofeu back then.
So let's put that to bed nice and early. We can get better for that money I reckon.
Just bring Deulofeu back then.
lololSo why can’t we do the same?
50m for Arnautovic and 40m for Richarlison?
This is one reason why we got Brands in, buying from other Premiership teams is almost pointless, they don't need the money so can slap ridiculously price tags on players they want to keep, and go off laughing if anyone is daft enough to pay it. Far better value around the world, especially South America
So why can’t we do the same?
Do what? We stuck a massive fee on Lukaku, tried to with Barkley.Suppose you have a point there and probably would have got double our money for Barkley if he hadn’t run his contract down
It's not like we're overflowing with players other teams want tho
Who was the last player we had other than Lukaku that we received a decent fee for?
Stones.Ah, forget about him
We've normally always got good money for our best players. Fellaini before Stones.Suppose that makes up for Dan Gozling
I think we even got good money for Barkley. Chelsea fans feel mugged there lol
Ah, forget about him
We've normally always got good money for our best players. Fellaini before Stones..................................Jack Rodwell says hi
I think we even got good money for Barkley. Chelsea fans feel mugged there lol
Who was the last player we had other than Lukaku that we received a decent fee for?We got a fair bit for Lukaku, but I still think they got the better end of the deal in terms of transfer fee
.................................Jack Rodwell says hidaylight robery
Brands over at Anfield watching Brazil v Croatia
Possibly there watching Marcelo Brozovic who's a creative midfielder which in my eyes is the first position we need to fill now that wazza's doing the off and lalso losing barkley
Brands over at Anfield watching Brazil v Croatia
Probably just took the opportunity to watch a bit of footy five minutes away.
Random tweet:
https://twitter.com/stevie1919/status/1001785411801374720
Random tweet:
https://twitter.com/stevie1919/status/1001785411801374720
Isn't he injured? Did well at Dortmund but thought he got himself a quite serious injury that ended his season and World Cup hopesHes just tweeted hes going the world cup. Must be like Lazarus.
Hes just tweeted hes going the world cup. Must be like Lazarus.
God only knows. He definitely got injured and I’m sure the story at the time was he’d miss it. Maybe I’ve dreamt it
God only knows. He definitely got injured and I’m sure the story at the time was he’d miss it. Maybe I’ve dreamt it
Bainesy' having his haircut prior to Cardiff City move?
Is the barber's next to Specsavers? 🤔
Well I thought he looked like himHe absolutely does
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/1003627295687479299?s=20
We could sign no-one this summer and still finish 7th next season, which is why I'd like to see only 3 maybe 4 signings tops with about a dozen going out the other way. The next 12 months will be about regaining some momentum, developing a style of play and bringing some enjoyment back to a match day. Anything else is a bonus.
Anybody who is giving you information that includes a budget/warchest/finite amount of currency can summarily be dismissed as talking utter tosh.Anyone who gives those sorts of figures is definitely talking rubbish.
Spending does not work like that and has not done for decades.
There is no feasible upper limit of what we will spend.
Anything we do spend is spread over the length of the contract the player signs.
Any fee's quoted in the press is pure and utter guess work and will include the most random of things (inc wages sometimes).
We will have already made enquiries into dozens of players. Dozens.
Anyone who gives those sorts of figures is definitely talking rubbish.
Exaggeration or not though, there are surely upper limits to what we can spend - they're just determined by a combination of amortisation, funds brought in from outgoings and the wage bill rather than the simplistic use of transfer fees.
Brands himself said upwards of £100m didn’t he?
No, in an interview with de telegraaf they said he had a £100m budget and then fed into his response about there being no financial shackles.I think we will be handling transfers very differently from here on in, quietly and out of the glare of media attention
Even if that was a specific figure, he'd be daft to announce to everybody what he was allowed to spend.
Creative journalism
I think we will be handling transfers very differently from here on in, quietly and out of the glare of media attention
4 players tops
Centre half
Left back
Midfielder
Striker
Random tweet:I think this fella has learning difficulties
https://twitter.com/stevie1919/status/1001785411801374720
I think this fella has learning difficulties
I think we will be handling transfers very differently from here on in, quietly and out of the glare of media attention
I probably should be, but im not excited about any of the players we've been linked with so far. Need an unrealistic hope to get the juices flowing
I'd be looking at the likes of Werner, Bonucci and Koke as examples of statement signings for this club to excel to that next level and challenge the top 6 and beyond.You are best steering clear of Everton this summer then
I probably should be, but im not excited about any of the players we've been linked with so far. Need an unrealistic hope to get the juices flowing
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-try-offload-12-players-12652729I think he’s going about business the correct way and I believe the he will achieve what he sets out to do. Seems very level headed and methodical
I'd be looking at the likes of Werner, Bonucci and Koke as examples of statement signings for this club to excel to that next level and challenge the top 6 and beyond.
Doesn’t sound too positive from Brands that..
Yay, a new poster with a negative outlook. Come on down.
What's the issue with what's been said? What negative connotations have you derived from such insight offered by 2 tweets?
No danger of any fucking positivity at the moment it seems.
Koke? You're having a laugh.Werner was funnier.
Superb news. Sounds like he has his head screwed on, his eyebrows must have hit the ceiling when he saw the ages, contract lengths and wages of some of these absolute scoundrels.
Hope rooney does the right thing and gets himself on that plane tomorrow morning.
Rooney
Schneiderlin
Williams
RFM
McCarthy if possible
Mirallas
Garbutt
Pennington
Browning
A wedge off the wages immediately that & barely touches the first team.
Werner was funnier.
I would add Besic, Martina and Tarashaj to that list. And send Kenny and Dowell on loan.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-try-offload-12-players-12652729That was a message to other clubs. Starting the negotiations already in the papers with the words "This time you cant fucking rinse us."
Asked if that meant Everton need to sell to buy, he added: “Yes, but it's not only a money thing. Of course money is also important, but it is also for a coach it is not workable to start with 38 players in your squad.
Asked if owner Farhad Moshiri will pump more of his own money into transfers, after spending upwards of £150m on a disjointed, confused spending policy last summer, he said: “No. (he won't).
Seems like a blow to big spending to me
He could have said "there will be some funding available but it's necessary to trim the squad first"..something like that.
Only a tiny percentage of fans read these threads on forums. The majority see news in the papers and they are all now reading 'cash strapped everton need to sell in order to buy'.
I mean, it's obvious to all, the squad needs to be reduced significantly.
But for the majority, who may have got a bit excited by the new brands/silva partnership, they may be left just a little deflated.
Not saying I believe there's no money available mind
Might be funny or laughable but they would need to be the benchmark for 6th and beyond unless ofcourse your happy with 7th at best.
That was a message to other clubs. Starting the negotiations already in the papers with the words "This time you cant fucking rinse us."
We pay what WE think a player is worth, not the other way around
Koke? You're having a laugh.
I made the same mistake of kind of panicking when I read the articles at first.
I think a clear out of around 12-15 off the books and four proper quality additions, Left Full, Centre Half, Central Mid and Striker (and maybe a winger if Bolasie goes) would be a good window for me.
He could have said "there will be some funding available but it's necessary to trim the squad first"..something like that.
Only a tiny percentage of fans read these threads on forums. The majority see news in the papers and they are all now reading 'cash strapped everton need to sell in order to buy'.
I mean, it's obvious to all, the squad needs to be reduced significantly.
But for the majority, who may have got a bit excited by the new brands/silva partnership, they may be left just a little deflated.
Not saying I believe there's no money available mind
We need a back up keeper too
I enjoyed Brands' 'some of the conversations will not be nice' comment, about letting some of the big earners go. That tells me he's more than ready to deal with that side of things, and will happily tell people they're not wanted here.
Out with the shite, in the with quality
Simple as that.
We're miles off that, and we're not just going to go out and sign top UCL talent out of nowhere are we? Why on earth would they come to Everton? Be honest with yourself.
Got to start somewhere to make that step up, will need statement signings at some point to break back into that top six unless we are content with 7th place for the next three seasons under Silva.
Forget about Werner honestly.
If we get Lozano it would be an unbelievable statement signing.
And besides - we’re past statement signings, it’s all about the suave and savvy business blues these days.
Hopefully, unlike Koeman, he will keep the outcome of those conversations private.
I’m sure he will, he seems brighter, more shrewd, and not an arsehole.
Why do you think the press conference was so full of public praise for Rooney? :D
Too much praise for Rooney. Was kinda cringe talking about him being a legend.
Personally I wouldn’t mind fellaini back on a free
Has anyone mentioned Daley Blind in this thread? Left sided full back, centre half and defensive midfielder. 28 years old, so not bad age wise. I think he could be a good aquasition for a few years, contract expiring at Man Utd. Worth a punt? I know it's another Man U reject, but I think he could do a job for us. Reasonable fee of course.
Personally I wouldn’t mind fellaini back on a free
Didnt realise Jonny Evans had a 3.5 million release clause, thats a bit of a bargain, although 30 again!
I'd love Mo Fro back but only for nostalgic reasons. So it's a no
I don’t even think Evans is any good.
Hegazi >>
I wonder if Silva and Brands would call him a club legend.
Twitter folk are saying Brands and Silva had a meeting yesterday and Silva said he wants Gelson Martin's and Bas Dost from Sporting
I just find it almost impossible to believe that information has been leaked out tbh. Sounds like bollocks to me.
Apart from Liverpool buying Southampton, has any team bought three first team players from the same team recently?Hmmm
Apart from Liverpool buying Southampton, has any team bought three first team players from the same team recently?
Apart from Liverpool buying Southampton, has any team bought three first team players from the same team recently?
Twitter linkage
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1004390824925388800
Bollocks? More than likely
Yes we did from Wigan, that worked out really well
5 years ago that now...
Time just flies by when we're shitThe last 30 have been a blurrr.
Bas Dost would be colossally bad. Age, likely wage, lack of involvement anywhere outside the penalty box.
No way we should entertain that idea.
Would have been fine for koeman.
Would be truly done disgusted if we sign him now.
Don't know martins really.
If Koeman had gotten him, he’d be another overpaid, one-dimensional player for us to get off the wage bill in the next couple of years.
I think Everton should consider looking into this Sander Berge from Norway. He's the next big thing. Very good to be this young and already in the Norway A-Team. Big, strong and good passer off the ball. Had approx. 90 % accuracy against Panama last night.
Not convinced by the 4-3-3 formation he says he'll adopt. I don't really want to be relying on gana doing too much link up/creativity in opposition half.
Where's he said that?
For us tactical nerds, some stattos evaluated Silva's formation/play style and it was a very lose 4-3-3 which was more a 4-2-3-1 on the ball 4-1-4-1 off it. I think we are going to see a lot more of a flexible and tactically fluid formation than our shit formations/tactics of late. The main philosophy is actually having energetic players that are very comfortable on the ball, can receive it, move with it and pass it well, so based on that, we need half an outfield:
Pickford
Coleman ..... New CB ..... New CB ..... A fit Baines
New DCM ..... New DCM
Walcott ..... A fit Sigurdsson ..... Lookman
New Striker
I would say we need a new heart. We need a quality central midfielder imo, a proper leader that actually knows the game and can interpret managerial instruction. Perhaps someone on the same wavelength as Silva and can speak the lingo and pick up the detail that may be lost with others. A presence, and someone with a lot of experience, respect and a good age. Carvalho for me ticks quite a lot of those boxes.
I'd rather we give the current squad a chance than lashing another 150m on replacing half the team. They've not been doing it as they've been told to play a certain way under previous shit managers. Some might just be able to run and move when coached to do it
4-3-3 still think we will go in with same back 4swap Gueye to the right and Davies left. That's the same team I quoted earlier. A younger Baines type LB and give it a go. I think Davies will improve under Silva.
Pickford
Coleman ..... Jags .....Keane ..... Baines
Gueye ..Sigurdsson... CM
Walcott ....Tosun. ..... Lookman
The 3 in the middle is dependant on what midfielders he has available.
If there’s no deep lying DM he’d play 4-2-3-1
I’m leaning towards this ATM because otherwise how dya fit gylfi in?
Carvalho
Gueye
Walcott Gylfi Lozano
Tosun
Not sure why nobody has Davies in any of their proposed lineups, I can see Silva really rating him as he’s got the potential to be a good box to box player.
He covers a lot of ground, reasonable pace/dribbling/passing/tackling and young enough to be moulded into how Silva wants him to play
He's ideal for a 4-3-3 and the way Silva wants to play. I'd much prefer him playing there than anyone else we have in the squad at the moment.
Yeah, out of the personnel we currently have, this would be my choice for a front 6 (not sure Sigurdsson has the energy/speed for a high-press, although he does have a good engine, so maybe)
Davies Gana Vlasic
Lookman Tosun Walcott
Vlasic centre mid?
Come off it haha.
Morgan Schneiderlin - 15 mill
Ashley Williams - 2.5 mill
Yannick Bolasie - 14 mill
Sandro Ramirez - 9 mill
Wayne Rooney - free
Kevin Mirallas - 3 mill
Eliaquim Mangala - free return
Cuco Martina - 3 mill
James McCarthy - 6 mill
Oumar Niasse - 7 mill
Ramiro Funes Mori - 10mill
Kieran Dowell (LOAN)
Brendan Galloway (LOAN)
Joel Robles - free?
Luke Garbutt - 1mill
Matthew Pennington (LOAN)
Shani Tarashaj - 1 mill
Tyias Browning - 1mill
Henry Onyekuru (LOAN)
About 70 mill tops of player sales ??
It is the left of a midfield three in a high-pressing style.
He is energetic, has good feet, can pick a pass, and can finish.
Not sure what is laughable about the suggestion.
It is the left of a midfield three in a high-pressing style.
He is energetic, has good feet, can pick a pass, and can finish.
Not sure what is laughable about the suggestion.
Just think Sigurdsson is miles better than him at pretty much everything in any position in the midfield.
Admittedly I don't really see what others do in Vlasic.
He’s becoming a wonderful player but not being deemed good enough by 2 managers
Morgan Schneiderlin - 15 mill
Ashley Williams - 2.5 mill
Yannick Bolasie - 14 mill
Sandro Ramirez - 9 mill
Wayne Rooney - free
Kevin Mirallas - 3 mill
Eliaquim Mangala - free return
Cuco Martina - 3 mill
James McCarthy - 6 mill
Oumar Niasse - 7 mill
Ramiro Funes Mori - 10mill
Kieran Dowell (LOAN)
Brendan Galloway (LOAN)
Joel Robles - free?
Luke Garbutt - 1mill
Matthew Pennington (LOAN)
Shani Tarashaj - 1 mill
Tyias Browning - 1mill
Henry Onyekuru (LOAN)
About 70 mill tops of player sales ??
We need to buy wisely because there's some silly prices being bandied about.12 months too late that comment mate
I think the wage budget decrease will be much more important than what we get back, but yeah, I don't think we will got a whole lot fee wise, especially as clubs know we are desperate to trim the squad.
Going by estimates I've read elsewhere these players leaving would leave save us well in excess of £40,000,000 per year (or £770,000+ per week) in wages. It's an astronomical amount.
Surely more than that in wages..Rooney is 150k, m.s is 120k and sandro 110k just to start with.
Not sure why nobody has Davies in any of their proposed lineups, I can see Silva really rating him as he’s got the potential to be a good box to box player.I did!
He covers a lot of ground, reasonable pace/dribbling/passing/tackling and young enough to be moulded into how Silva wants him to play
Morgan Schneiderlin - 15 mill
Ashley Williams - 2.5 mill
Yannick Bolasie - 14 mill
Sandro Ramirez - 9 mill
Wayne Rooney - free
Kevin Mirallas - 3 mill
Eliaquim Mangala - free return
Cuco Martina - 3 mill
James McCarthy - 6 mill
Oumar Niasse - 7 mill
Ramiro Funes Mori - 10mill
Kieran Dowell (LOAN)
Brendan Galloway (LOAN)
Joel Robles - free?
Luke Garbutt - 1mill
Matthew Pennington (LOAN)
Shani Tarashaj - 1 mill
Tyias Browning - 1mill
Henry Onyekuru (LOAN)
About 70 mill tops of player sales ??
I think the wage budget decrease will be much more important than what we get back, but yeah, I don't think we will got a whole lot fee wise, especially as clubs know we are desperate to trim the squad.
Going by estimates I've read elsewhere these players leaving would leave save us well in excess of £40,000,000 per year (or £770,000+ per week) in wages. It's an astronomical amount.
It's going to take a full season of silvas tactics before we will see if our current crop can manage it.
They were all bought with different styles/tactics in mind.
Not sure that not being played by Koeman and Allardyce should be a black mark on a player, quite the opposite in fact.
Vlasic, Lookman, and Holgate will do much better under a manager like Silva.
No black mark but seeing him run down a few blind alleys and not go with his marker also doesn’t mean he’s a quality player under a different manager. He’s very highly rated by some considering we’ve seen almost nothing of him
STARTING LINE UP
I would like the following:
(https://startingeleven.co.uk/usr/a/5b19115806752.jpg)
Bench of: Steklenberg, Jagielka, Holgate, Angeliño, Davies, Calvert-Lewin, Lookman
TRANSFERS IN AND WHO I'D KEEP
Not really sure what players we will get, the ones we don't have are just examples. But I'd like to see us sign:
- Back Up Left back - ready to replace Baines (Fabra might be a bad example, know little about him, would love Chilwell and we've been linked with Angeliño)
- Centre back to partner Keane (hopefully Keane comes good next season)
- Defensive Midfielder
- Left Winger (Lozano, Kluivert, Brahimi, etc - or put trust in Lookman and don't sign anyone)
They IMO are the essentials. Bonus signings would be a player like Maddison to put pressure on Sigurdsson but not as essential, another centre back and a better striker than Tosun if they were to come available. I'd like us to have a punt on Andre Silva, he's not gone bad overnight and if Huddersfield are in for him that would suggest he's more than obtainable and the right age.
We also will probably need a box-to-box midfielder to play the Marco Silva way, if available I'd love to see us sign Marcelo Brozovic, but doubt he's obtainable.
The rest of the squad I'd keep the following:
Nikola Vlašić
Jonjoe Kenny
Beni Baningime
Davy Klaassen (would like to see him given a chance)
Mateusz Hewelt
TRANSFERS OUT
And try to sell/loan/get as many as off the wage budget of the following:
Morgan Schneiderlin
Ashley Williams
Yannick Bolasie
Sandro Ramirez
Wayne Rooney
Kevin Mirallas
Eliaquim Mangala
Cuco Martina
James McCarthy
Oumar Niasse
Ramiro Funes Mori
Kieran Dowell (LOAN)
Brendan Galloway (LOAN)
Joel Robles
Luke Garbutt
Matthew Pennington (LOAN)
Shani Tarashaj
Tyias Browning
Henry Onyekuru (LOAN)
This would leave us with a squad of 22. With room for more and any stragglers. The obvious problem is how do you shift 11 senior players all at once? It's going to be tough.
MY SEMI-REALISTIC DREAM SCENARIO
My attempt at a realistic dream squad (it's not realistic really) at the end of the window would be as follows (25 players, probably still too many with no Europe):
(https://i.imgur.com/aKA4K3D.png)
I think it's going to be an exciting summer.
Surely more than that in wages..Rooney is 150k, m.s is 120k and sandro 110k just to start with.
We need to implement a better win bonus scheme and make the players hungrier for success while on more modest wages.
Top journalism there.
"People say Raiola could play a big role in Everton's transfers. But maybe not. We'll see. The end."
https://twitter.com/philkecho/status/1005150968655286273................always reminds me of John Belushi
................always reminds me of John Belushi
Would like to see Jonathan Tah alongside Holgate at Centre half. Mori and Williams to move on, with Jags and Keane as cover.
I don’t think you’ll see Holgate starting ahead of Keane any time soon
Why?
Everything I've heard about Silva and from the man himself is that he doesn't care who you are or what you cost. If you play well enough then you're in the team.
Keane has been fairly abject for most of his time here and Holgate seems much more suited to Silva's style than Keane.
Really rate Holgate, seem to think he's the only centre half we have who has aggression and composure on the ball, quite quick to compared to our other centre halves.
Wasn't he rated better than Stones once? It may have been at youth level like...
Would love to see the likes of;
Phillip Max
Jonathan Tah
Docoure
Lozano
All have pace, power, athleticism, at the right age and comfortable on the ball.
Adios;
Williams
Schneiderlin
Besic
Mirallas
Mori
Galloway
Tarashaj
Rooney
Martina
Pennington
Sandro
Klaassen
Steklenburg
Connolly, Dowell, DCL and maybe Robinson on loan again.
I think in fairness Allardyce played such negative football the defence just got pinned down so Keane's arse probably went a bit incase he messed up and the crowd turned on him. Playing a higher tempo/press will give him more time to play better... Here's hoping anyway. Then we'll see if he's a player, or not.
So are we a Sell to Buy club this summer?.
Or is it just that we need to trim the squad right down before moshiri authorised decent funding?
Just going on the possibility we shelved plans for that Newcastle defender having been quoted £30 mill.
Even if we bin half this lot there won't be huge money from it. After signing on fees and agent fees on top of transfer amount I do wonder how much there will be to spend.
So are we a Sell to Buy club this summer?.
Or is it just that we need to trim the squad right down before moshiri authorised decent funding?
Just going on the possibility we shelved plans for that Newcastle defender having been quoted £30 mill.
Even if we bin half this lot there won't be huge money from it. After signing on fees and agent fees on top of transfer amount I do wonder how much there will be to spend.
So are we a Sell to Buy club this summer?.
Or is it just that we need to trim the squad right down before moshiri authorised decent funding?
Just going on the possibility we shelved plans for that Newcastle defender having been quoted £30 mill.
Even if we bin half this lot there won't be huge money from it. After signing on fees and agent fees on top of transfer amount I do wonder how much there will be to spend.
So are we a Sell to Buy club this summer?.
Or is it just that we need to trim the squad right down before moshiri authorised decent funding?
Just going on the possibility we shelved plans for that Newcastle defender having been quoted £30 mill.
Even if we bin half this lot there won't be huge money from it. After signing on fees and agent fees on top of transfer amount I do wonder how much there will be to spend.
If we were to get rid of all those players in one window I think the likes of Connolly, dowell, DCL and robinson would be needed to bolster squad numbers
Negative football should have played into Keane's hands, he earned his reputation paying in a defensive Burnley side. The difference with us is that when we have the ball we're encouraged to do something with it which means the turnaround of play was quicker, which left him exposed, and he couldn't cope without two players tight in either side.
He's just a poor defender and an even worse athlete, for a lad in his mid 20's.
Michael ‘turn on a dustbin’ Keane. Hopefully Silva and co can get him into yoga to make him a bit more agile.
Did I just hear on SSN that we are competing with Arsenal for Mario Gotze?
Did I just hear on SSN that we are competing with Arsenal for Mario Gotze?
It wouldn't surprise me if any of the signings we get we wouldn't have previously been linked with, Brands strikes me as someone who likes to keep things close to his chest as does Silva.
Most of this is paper talk bollocks as usual.
Gotze is extremely overated with an appalling injury record, swerve.
Teamtalk has us linked to Sean Clare 21 year old from Sheffield Wednesday
Teamtalk? Is that still a thing? Memories there
It’s probably bollocks mate but hadn’t seen it so thought I’d post it
Teamtalk has us linked to Sean Clare 21 year old from Sheffield Wednesday...........................apparently we are leading the chase along with the shite ,followed by numerous other PL clubs and Preston.
Even if it is I'm just happy that Teamtalk is still around. Spent hours waiting for the headlines on itv teletext to come up as a kid
It's shite now, all their stuff is clickbait and they have transfer pictures that lure you into clicking.
As an example it'd say "United star demanding transfer after only being there one year" Matic will be in focus in the middle of the picture with Lindelof standing in the background, when you open the article it's always the guy in the background.
Teamtalk has us linked to Sean Clare 21 year old from Sheffield Wednesday
Hmmm, not sure about this....
According to reports in The Telegraph, via Sky Sports’ Paper Talk, Everton are considering making an £8m bid for West Bromwich Albion left-back Kieran Gibbs.
The Telegraph report that the Merseyside outfit are weighing up a move for the Baggies’ Gibbs, who may well want a return to the Premier League having suffered relegation to the Championship in his first season with the west Midlands outfit.
While it was a disappointing campaign for the club, the former Arsenal defender was one of their more consistent performers.
The 28-year-old made 37 appearances in all competitions, providing three assists, as the Baggies came close to securing their top flight status following some improved defensive performances under Darren Moore in April and May.
i'd have a cheeky look/bid for David Luiz....depending on whether conte stays or not....there's a fallout between the 2..
he's 31 but not too old for us...his experience would bring our young defenders on leaps and bounds ( main reason for purchase) but he could also do a good job for us both defensively and as the elusive holding midfielder role for a few seasons....
buys us time.....fills a central defender "hole".....helps develop the young defenders....
makes sense to me...
not seen or heard anything to back up claims that we're in for him
the last "news" on it really was along the lines of "Should Everton be interested in Kieran Gibbs?" and that was 3 days ago...
Doesn't make any sense at all, he's an absolute liability. The only time he looked half decent was when Matic and Kante were protecting him. Deserves a bit of credit for that free kick against Liverpool though.
Any news from the man in the Skem scran van?
Everton has just had a mention in the Morocco game that we are scouting one of their players, I think it’s the young lad in the 18 shirt
Maybe Ziyech
Maybe ZiyechIt’s Amine Harit
Liked seeing Silva's comments today about what he wants to fill: CM, LB, and CB.
Def our biggest needs and he already realizes. Now just need to fill those roles appropriately.
If we can only target a few players, those are the positions.
Good to hear.
Buzzing the World Cup's on tbh. Not gonna stress about signings at all.
I think our attackers are underrated after a full season of nobody being able to pass them the ball in the areas that matter.
We'll score enough if we can work the ball into final third with any sort of regularity.
Do you not think we need something extra in attacking positions too. I guess if the centre midfielder was absolutely fantastic going both ways it would help a lot.
We really need another winger too though or we are relying on lookman to be great all season and we need another striker at some stage
I think our attackers are underrated after a full season of nobody being able to pass them the ball in the areas that matter.
We'll score enough if we can work the ball into final third with any sort of regularity.
Wouldn’t mind that Ronaldo fella he looks decent
Yeah. Tonight reaffirmed my worry with Carvalho.
Avoid.
Yeah. Tonight reaffirmed my worry with Carvalho.
Avoid.
He’s actually crap isn’t he. Just a plodder with a fancy name and a load of hype (from years ago) there’s a reason he’s still in Portugal. Be an absolute nightmare signing
He's pure unadulterated shite mate.
Hes gotten away with it in that league as its average, hes done ok for Portugal as he has always been surrounded by class players.
He would get absolutely steam rollered in this league, he wouldn't bring anything to our midfield we don't already have, he would actually make it worse.
He's a European Champion to be fair, and he keeps getting picked first choice for a strong international team in a key area.
Not going to pretend I watch him domestically but he's clearly a good player and has a lot going for him. It's tough to judge any midfielders against Spain.
He's a European Champion to be fair, and he keeps getting picked first choice for a strong international team in a key area.
Not going to pretend I watch him domestically but he's clearly a good player and has a lot going for him. It's tough to judge any midfielders against Spain.
Whether or not he has attributes we are not giving him credit for, what was clear, is he isn't that mobile, ball hungry, demand ball from defense, dictate play with a range of precision passing type that we need.He looked like a player who didn’t want to get involved, played save at every opportunity, looked slow, lethargic and a bit clumsy, I’d go as far as saying I’d much rather keep Schniderlin than buy this look alike heavy weight boxer.
He's a European Champion to be fair, and he keeps getting picked first choice for a strong international team in a key area.
Not going to pretend I watch him domestically but he's clearly a good player and has a lot going for him. It's tough to judge any midfielders against Spain.
He's a European Champion to be fair, and he keeps getting picked first choice for a strong international team in a key area.
Not going to pretend I watch him domestically but he's clearly a good player and has a lot going for him. It's tough to judge any midfielders against Spain.
Greece won the European championship and I'd say pretty much all there squad was pretty crap to decent at bestThe Leicester of Europe
The Leicester of Europe
In fairness, Leicester played with some panache and pace that season. Greece won that championship playing the Moyes way.
In possesion he's good as he moves the ball on quickly and has a decent range of passing, but tonight was exactly the same as any other game i've seen him play out of possession - if he's up against a team thats either quick or moves the ball quickly then he can't get close enough to be effective. Its Gareth Barry all over again.
If they were playing the Moyes way they’d have bottled it in the semi.
Gareth Barry wasn't blessed with pace but did his DM role well, this guy looks even slower though, if we are to implement a pressing style next season I fail to see where he fits in.
I don’t think that you need a mobile DM to implement a pressing style, as they should be holding their position whilst the forwards/more attacking midfielders press to block the passing lanes.
The likes of Busquets and Casimiro are both slow and play perfectly well in high press systems
I know it’s mainly all bullshit, but none of these links are very inspiring, are they?
I want us to be linked with up and coming players 19-23, but Lozano and Maddison apart, most of the links are for players that are older, and not even particularly rated.
Would love them 2 in theram
Im not too sure @TheRam (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1602) would enjoy having them in him though.
Not seen @Shogun (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1108) 's signature? The lad loves it, any way he can get it.
How's about this then :)Sound
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/06/18/everton-target-sporting-lisbon-winger-gelson-martins-ajax-defender/
Fuck me we need to sign Loftus cheek - would be a massive signing
He looked decent didn't he
Hopefully we don't sign another shit load of foreigners who take 2 years to acclimatise and have a steady string of excuses made for their failure to adjust . Need to get the balance right this time between potential and experience of the league .
Telegraph link always seems more promising than the Daily Star.
Interestingly, it was from Sam Wallace, not the usual Everton/North West Telegraph guy, Chris Bascombe. Not sure what to make of that, because Bascombe always seems to connections and info at Everton.
Can’t see us getting either tbh and it’s a bit worrying again we seem to be getting publicly linked with players who will have no interest in coming to us.
Alright Nige.
Typically droll Troll .
Typical "yer 'da" narrative from you.
Our recruitment has been a mess, whether the player(s) have been bought from the domestic league(s) or other. "Johnny Foreigner" isn't the issue, identifying the right player is.
You can carry on thinking I'm a troll, but all I'm doing is calling out your boring, i'll thought shouts.
So according to the echo we are in for absolutely no one.
So according to the echo we are in for absolutely no one.
William Carvalho apparently going to InterHe was comfortable on the ball in that first game, but barely moves, our fans would hate him. Not the end of the world that one.
It's a pity that the transfer window closes much earlier in the summer than previously but I guess that's the way it goes.
Anyone who had Issa Diop on their Christmas list is going to be disappointed he’s signed for West Ham.
Whats the score with Onyekuru for next season, can we use him or not?
Nope. Can't get a visa.Great stuff
Nope. Can't get a visa.
Lol. Absolute shambles of a club.
I hope they sign Wilshere.
Surely there's exceptional circumstances for these things?I think they could've applied for this last season too? Maybe they just realise he isn't ready yet and wouldn't get enough game time so just keep him out on loan, he's still really young so probably the best all round.
I mean we've known he's been injured for months and he'd fail it on those grounds but there must be loopholes to exploit. There's no way all these players from the far flung corners of the world that turn up in this country qualify on international appearances alone.
Whats the score with Onyekuru for next season, can we use him or not?
Aaron MooyNo fucking way, this lad is not what we need, he’s championship material. I used to watch him playing for Western Sydney Wanderers a couple of years ago, not a bad wee player but fucking miles off premier league quality.
Aaron Mooy
Aaron Aaron Mooy
He's got no hair
But we dont care
Aaron Aaron Mooy.
Latest shitty rumours from the very reputable Sun have us and Southampton offering 18 mil for him. Decent little engine on him and a few goals, for that money.
Aaron MooyDon't think he's good enough. Certainly not good enough to take us up a level. Like Tom Cleverly type.
Aaron Mooy
Aaron Aaron Mooy
He's got no hair
But we dont care
Aaron Aaron Mooy.
Latest shitty rumours from the very reputable Sun have us and Southampton offering 18 mil for him. Decent little engine on him and a few goals, for that money.
is this just a me thing (probably yes)
I think it’s fair enough to feel a bit of itchy feet due to the lack of action.
There are however 8 clubs in the prem who’ve not made a move yet. It’s very early in the window, and there’s a big togger tournament on apparently.
Let’s get into July and then we can start sweating.
Yeah, we've a few panic merchants around as usual. It's not like if we did nothing all summer the squad we have is going to get in trouble again, just a fresh approach and few more attempts on goal would be a step in the right direction.
I'd rather we used the summer to clear out the shite, bring two or three players in only if they will improve us and then let Silva and Brands asses the squad during the first part of the season. We're not going to turn it all around in one window so there's no point making wholesale changes yet again. I get the impression that there's bit more of an air of professionalism about the club now and we'll be doing things more methodically and away from the public eye.
Yeah, we've a few panic merchants around as usual. It's not like if we did nothing all summer the squad we have is going to get in trouble again, just a fresh approach and few more attempts on goal would be a step in the right direction.Fully agree I believe we have learned a very wise lesson in keeping our cards firmly to our chests,
I'd rather we used the summer to clear out the shite, bring two or three players in only if they will improve us and then let Silva and Brands asses the squad during the first part of the season. We're not going to turn it all around in one window so there's no point making wholesale changes yet again. I get the impression that there's bit more of an air of professionalism about the club now and we'll be doing things more methodically and away from the public eye.
We are a good squad but it’s also an incredibly boring uninspiring squad too
It is very early, but is also only 50 days until it closes. I think in that short a window it going to be really difficult to do the business we need, the worry for me will be the amount we need to shift and if our policy is to shift some of the dead wood before investing then this could leave us short due to the fact the other leagues window closes at a later stage. I think this season will be a transition and expectations shouldnt be too high
Largely because we had an incredibly boring, uninspiring manager for most of last season.
::)
No ones knocking on our door to buy our shit now Sunderland are in League One
I don’t really agree. We’ve got good players but we’ve very little who the 6 sides above us would be interested in. We don’t have much individually that really excites. I’m hoping lookman steps up. We have to find a couple more though
lookman, Sigurdsson, Walcott
That’s a pretty good attacking three in my eyes.
Tosun is the business as well.
Just need someone in the middle to pass to them
Every single club above us and a worrying amount of those below have a ‘superstar’ style individual baller.
Look at what happened to west ham when they dropped a bit of star power into their absolute dumpster fire of a club in Payet. Real attacking talent lifts a team a level instantly.
We don’t make chances, we don’t shoot a great deal, we don’t have any real 1v1 attackers to open space and teams and get the fans on their feet.
It’s the last on our list of priorities, but it is absolutely still a prioritity.
lookman, Sigurdsson, Walcott
That’s a pretty good attacking three in my eyes.
Tosun is the business as well.
That’s it. It’s not just the 6 above is it. Palace West Ham and Leicester all have at least 1 that really excites. That could maybe make a step up above any of ours
Think that’s why most of us wanted Maddison. Just blind hope he could be potentially great
We’ve gone from Deulofeu, stones Barkley and lukaku to nothing. Granted it’s not worked out perfectly for all 4 but there was genuine hope amongst many of us that they could all be great
The team will be the star under Silva.
I know what you’re saying and you can probably say Walcott / Sigurdsson should get you goals and assists, they really should.
Sigurdsson probably the closest to a real dangerous creative attacker, but we know across his career he has been more of a big moments in open play rather than consistently creating from open play type player.
Lookman we can’t bank on at all but I’ve personally got hopes.
We need a game changer, it’s really plain to see in my opinion.
A lot of hope testing on Lookmans shoulders this season. Be gutted to see the fans go all Barkley on him just because hes not delivering what we thought he would.Think he'll be sound under Silva, he'll be allowed to attack
We’ve gone from Deulofeu, stones Barkley and lukaku to nothing. Granted it’s not worked out perfectly for all 4 but there was genuine hope amongst many of us that they could all be great
The team will be the star under Silva.
Loftus-Cheek want's to leave Chelsea, we should be all over that right now
Chelsea fans I know are a bit iffy towards Loftus - Cheek and can't decide whether he is or isn't good enough for them . He is though good enough for us and I would take him any day .
Kenwrong
The team will be the star under Silva.
I absolutely see him as their Ross Barkley.
Which is a bit odd ebcause they have the actual one as well.
Now that RLC is an England international I think we can forget about signing him, his next move will be to a top 4 club
Barkley could have stayed and played most games , Loftus- Cheek wants to play not sit on their bench like Ross . Their careers are going to go in opposite directions .
I think it will have to be - in order to attract those one or two real stars that we want so badly.
Don't be that guy. No-one like that guy.
We don’t need to attract stars. We need to find a couple. We’ve missed the boat if we are trying to sign proven
The point was being attractive to players we need. Whether that is Ronaldo or the latest whizzkid from wherever is irrelevant. Unless we are playing like a coherent team with a bright future - we won't attract anyone for reasons other than over-inflated wages, stepping stone etc - things like that.
We need to become again the type of team that talented players can envision themselves achieving something with. That was the point.
I don't care if we make established or potential signings as long as they are the right signings, because, to be honest - I won't quote Hansen but I think we do need both to be successful.
Watford palace West Ham and Leicester all have players converted by the top 6. They don’t have to be highly thought after to become quality players
Watford palace West Ham and Leicester all have players converted by the top 6. They don’t have to be highly thought after to become quality players
I hope everyone can see how shite Mooy is here against Denmark
Badly shite so farSlows the play down before passing backwards, he’s fucking great at it
Watford palace West Ham and Leicester all have players converted by the top 6. They don’t have to be highly thought after to become quality players
Moan moan moan moan. Jesus man. You depress the fuck out of me.
Moan moan moan moan. Jesus man. You depress the fuck out of me.
How am I moaning. I'm only saying we don't have to attract ready made stars. That it's possible to find great players cheaper who aren't thought after by the top sides. Really not sure how that's moaning. Feel free to explain
How am I moaning. I'm only saying we don't have to attract ready made stars. That it's possible to find great players cheaper who aren't thought after by the top sides. Really not sure how that's moaning. Feel free to explain
Alright, apologies if I misunderstood the tone of the post.
Now that RLC is an England international I think we can forget about signing him, his next move will be to a top 4 club
Now that RLC is an England international I think we can forget about signing him, his next move will be to a top 4 clubnot so sure about that, I'd be expecting us to get him if we went in for him - which top 5 club would bid?
Going to be very difficult convincing a top player to come here when they may have reservations about marco silva at the healm.
May well be that he will pretty much have to prove his worth with the squad we have.
Now that RLC is an England international I think we can forget about signing him, his next move will be to a top 4 club
Going to be very difficult convincing a top player to come here when they may have reservations about marco silva at the healm.why would they have a problem with silva like? plays attacking football, a lot of players that have played under him have praised him, plus we offer stupid wages. I don't worry about attracting players if were willing to pay them big.
May well be that he will pretty much have to prove his worth with the squad we have.
He’s already kinda there like.
What do you think they'd have reservations about?
Haven't had a chance to check out many of the world cup games so far. Has anyone noticed any hidden gems that are doing well?
Possibly reservations about hus abilities. The same way none of us know how he's going to fare. I think he needs to get a good season under his belt in order for people to get excited about working with him.
Not sure that constitutes 'flapping' if that was aimed at me.
I personally think he will be very good.
Are we definitely not able to get Onyekuru over this summer then?
Wasn't sure if he would meet the work permit criteria yet.
Someone mentioned the other day that he wont get a work permit as his injury kept him from playing enough international games
Ye he hinted at that himself on Twitter too. Basically blamed Anderlecht for purposely not playing him so he wouldn't go the world cup and have to play for them again next season. It was a fuckin bizzare rant.
I thought there could be a way round it.
Now that RLC is an England international I think we can forget about signing him, his next move will be to a top 4 club
That’s the key for me next season regarding where I end up, I want to play.
I do understand Chelsea are a big club and there is always pressure on managers to win games and trophies.
So I understand they might not be willing to take a chance on someone at a bigger club.
We’ll see what happens. I’m confident in my ability and that I can do well, wherever it is.
But I’m not thinking about whether I’m going to play at Chelsea right now. I’m only focused on the tournament
Haven't had a chance to check out many of the world cup games so far. Has anyone noticed any hidden gems that are doing well?
Yes, he’s top drawer that lad.
Not sure he's exactly hidden as we've already been linked, but I have liked the look of Ziyech when i have watched Morocco
lots of media outlets saying we want that Croatian centre half vida, was struggling to get game time at besiktas, I don't know anything about him, if he's any good or not
I thought Vida was one of the worst players I saw at Euro 2016.
And hes 29.
And he has terrible hair.
Hard fucking pass.
Guess who else is in for him
Guess who else is in for him
Just based on his hair it’s a definite fuck know from me!You have inside information?
It’s West Ham by the way 😆
It’s West Ham by the way 😆
We should be looking at whoever is Modric’s replacement in the Croatian team. That is the guy we want. Even if he is half as good would be a great player.
Savic plays tho. I mean who is the youngster with the squad who is next in line.
You have inside information?
Let’s just sign all the guys younger than all the really good older guys.
Like Vlasic?
Savic plays tho. I mean who is the youngster with the squad who is next in line.
Someone you’ve never seen or heard of just because he’s the best Croatia have got to replace modric? He could be crap! Most likely he is compared to modric.
Who replaced George best in the NI team? Who replaced Southall in the wales goal?
Someone you've never seen or heard of just because he's the best Croatia have got to replace modric? He could be crap! Most likely he is compared to modric.
Who replaced George best in the NI team? Who replaced Southall in the wales goal?
Milinkovic Savic is Serbian anyway. The Croatian replacement for Modric is probably Kovacic, who's already at Real Madrid, as a replacement for Modric.
Someone you've never seen or heard of just because he's the best Croatia have got to replace modric? He could be crap! Most likely he is compared to modric.
Who replaced George best in the NI team? Who replaced Southall in the wales goal?
He wasn’t wrong if Kovacic is the backup, might be something to this method!
Wague and Sabaly 19 and 25 respectively and not at top clubs.
Shite.
Nah both good. Wague especially.
You’d have a 25 yo replacement for Baines and a 19 yo understudy for Coleman, and we increase our much-loved Senegalese contingent by double. Frankly i don’t see the downside.
Rather give Robinson and Kenny a go.
Yes and no
Thoughts on Quintero?
Looks every inch the player we need in the final 3rd.
Thoughts on Quintero?
Looks every inch the player we need in the final 3rd.
Thoughts on Quintero?
Looks every inch the player we need in the final 3rd.
Id spunk my load if we got him.
Think Quintero was a really big prospect at youth level.
Not sure he developed physically to make it in Europe.
Think Quintero was a really big prospect at youth level.
Not sure he developed physically to make it in Europe.
Bit old now to make the transition i think. He is 25 like.
Need to find a player in his mold.
I see Josh King is interesting Newcastle United. I have always enjoyed watching him play and think he could add something to our team. Only 26 as well so reaching his peak.
I see Josh King is interesting Newcastle United. I have always enjoyed watching him play and think he could add something to our team. Only 26 as well so reaching his peak.I like him
The mirror has us after 19 year old attacking mid from RB Salzburg Hannes Wolf, scored 12 last seasonHe's a clever player.
Mason Mount is only 19. Matias Vargas is early 20s.I was on about Quintero sorry!
Ziyech is on like 4+ key passes per 90 for last year 😯
I was on about Quintero sorry!
The mirror has us after 19 year old attacking mid from RB Salzburg Hannes Wolf, scored 12 last season
Any player doing well for Salzburg moves to Leipzig and we won't sell them Lookman so no chance were getting Wolf.
Could really do with a positive move soon, I'm a few days a way from watching Ross Barkley highlight videos and arguing with you lot that we should re-sign him.Put the bottle away mate
Could really do with a positive move soon, I’m a few days a way from watching Ross Barkley highlight videos and arguing with you lot that we should re-sign him.
Is that actually true. Have there been many that have moved between the 2. Surely they'd be on dangerous ground doing that
Biggest flapper on the site you la.
Could really do with a positive move soon, I’m a few days away from watching Ross Barkley highlight videos and arguing with you lot that we should re-sign him.
Could really do with a positive move soon, I’m a few days away from watching Ross Barkley highlight videos and arguing with you lot that we should re-sign him.
constantly flapping...why!?
Any player doing well for Salzburg moves to Leipzig and we won't sell them Lookman so no chance were getting Wolf.
It was a joke more than anything, train was cancelled and I was bored.
Bild saying we are interested in another good old transfer Yarmolenko
That train has derailed.
I want to see players leave before we get anyone in.
World cup is holding everything up, but who we do and don't sign is not really bothering me this summer at present.
It'll get sorted one way or another, let those who are paid to worry about it, worry about it. I have my own worries to contend with.
Be surprised if Niasse goes given how good he was under Silva at Hull.
Be surprised if Niasse goes given how good he was under Silva at Hull.
Could really do with a positive move soon, I’m a few days away from watching Ross Barkley highlight videos and arguing with you lot that we should re-sign him.
Be surprised if Niasse goes given how good he was under Silva at Hull.
Niasse is truly awful, and still topped our xg chart.
I do think we could do with another forward next year.
The problem with another striker is it would impact on DCL's development.
The problem with not signing one is if Toson gets a bad injury a couple of games in we are relying on DCL again when he's not ready.
It's a tough one, I wonder if there's anyone we could bring in on loan for a year so at least it's only a year of DCL playing a bit part role?
I think we want to be signing another striker of Tosun's quality or better, personally. It's a long season, there's plenty of games to go around, with injuries, suspensions, loss of form, formation changes to accomodate Tosun, DCL and a new striker.
I've been thinking a forward of a different type to DCL and Tosun would be good. Someone who can play across the front line with pace and 1v1 dribbling would be fantastic, saves buying two players too.Theo says ‘hi’.
Theo says ‘hi’.
The problem with another striker is it would impact on DCL's development.
The problem with not signing one is if Toson gets a bad injury a couple of games in we are relying on DCL again when he's not ready.
It's a tough one, I wonder if there's anyone we could bring in on loan for a year so at least it's only a year of DCL playing a bit part role?
I honestly don't think this is an area we need to worry about this season. At least until the winter window anyway. We don't have europe to concern ourselves with this season so there is not really a desperate need. Obviously if a good player becomes available at a decent fee then do the deal. however I would like to see us keep our powder dry on this one and see where we go with DCL. Let Silva and his team have a good look over the season and then make a decision.I think other than GK and RB were basically not good enough in every other position, I think we need 3 or 4 quality signings and get rid of the deadwood
I honestly don't think this is an area we need to worry about this season. At least until the winter window anyway. We don't have europe to concern ourselves with this season so there is not really a desperate need. Obviously if a good player becomes available at a decent fee then do the deal. however I would like to see us keep our powder dry on this one and see where we go with DCL. Let Silva and his team have a good look over the season and then make a decision.
Am I the only person who doesn't want DCL going anywhere
Am I the only person who doesn't want DCL going anywhere
Rather Niasse than DCL
Anyone fancy a Danish?
https://mobile.twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/1011925366758404098?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231011925366758404098
Only if it's custard
Anyone fancy a Danish?a few years ago I thought he was going to be boss... To slow and only 5th choise CB for Denmark probably say it all
https://mobile.twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/1011925366758404098?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231011925366758404098
a few years ago I thought he was going to be boss... To slow and only 5th choise CB for Denmark probably say it all
Come on now. When have we ever had a bad experience signing a Danish CB?not sure Krøldrup was a CB ;)
not sure Krøldrup was a CB ;)
:Sick:not Roma but he did better in Italy Pretty sure Vestergaard will fail in England (but then I thought Krøldrup would succeed)
Not sure he was a footballer .......then I saw him at Roma he was boss .
Rather Niasse than DCLMe too, bigger danger, more of a threat to the opposition.
I actually don’t mind him as a wide forward as long as he’s not expected to be taking people on all the time.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/ante-rebic-evertons-transfer-radar-12807550
Rather Niasse than DCL
I still don't get Niasse
What’s to get (or miss) about him?
Niasse on average gets a goal every 193 minutes in this league, pretty simple really.
Tosun who’s widely regarded as a good finisher gets a goal every 198 minutes.
Football's more than just facts and figures, divorced of any context, though eh?
He’s a out and out goalscorer plain and simple, there’s your context.
What’s to get (or miss) about him?
Niasse on average gets a goal every 193 minutes in this league, pretty simple really.
Tosun who’s widely regarded as a good finisher gets a goal every 198 minutes.
I don't dislike him. Like pretty much all of us, I respect his attitude and the way he's knuckled down and contributed. But surely if we could get a better player, which I don't think should be very difficult, you'd want to?
Yes totally agree - look at his assists last year - I just mean if we’re talking about ‘threat’, I.e how many goals he should have been expected to have scored last year, then we should consider the fact he played wide right, wide left, 10, right back...
Here’s the site, dunno how accurate but it doesn’t look a million miles off?
https://understat.com/team/Everton/2017
What’s to get (or miss) about him?
Niasse on average gets a goal every 193 minutes in this league, pretty simple really.
Tosun who’s widely regarded as a good finisher gets a goal every 198 minutes.
DCL 1 goal every 263 minutesOops
DCL 1 goal every 263 minutes
Every football fan wants better players for their team so of course.
But do think we’ll find a better back up goalscorer who’s happy to rotate, or more likely, play second fiddle to Tosun if he’s got a better goalscoring record?
Yes. I'm certain we could. I do take your point, and it can be hard to keep players happy.
Whoever it was would have to fight it out with Tosun for the 1st choice, and if they played and trained better than Tosun, then Tosun drops to the bench. It should be a meritocracy. Tosun's not a guaranteed starter.
There might be games where we go for 2 up top. We might sign a striker who can also play wide in certain games. Tosun could get a 6 month injury tomorrow. Imagine that, and then you're just left with Niasse and DCL. Dude, we need better than Niasse, as well as he's acquitted himself given his limitations.
Yes. I'm certain we could. I do take your point, and it can be hard to keep players happy.
Whoever it was would have to fight it out with Tosun for the 1st choice, and if they played and trained better than Tosun, then Tosun drops to the bench. It should be a meritocracy. Tosun's not a guaranteed starter.
There might be games where we go for 2 up top. We might sign a striker who can also play wide in certain games. Tosun could get a 6 month injury tomorrow. Imagine that, and then you're just left with Niasse and DCL. Dude, we need better than Niasse, as well as he's acquitted himself given his limitations.
Just out of interest who’d you have to replace him?
I realise it’s not your job and all that, but if these goalscorers with better records are so abundant a few names must pop up surely?
Bearing in mind of course we’ve got a limited budget and multiple gaps in the squad that need filling.
Young kid in a break through season being played all over the place, hardly surprising he’s not the finished article is it.
I won't go through a long list of names, and I do take the point that you have to keep people happy, but I'm not saying we should sign a 3rd choice striker who is happy with 10-15 games, like Niasse.
I think we should sign another 1st choice/compete with Tosun level striker, and then DCL becomes your third choice striker. You need options.
Dont know what age has to do with it really, if hes good enough hes old enough as the old adage goes? I feel for him and think he did admirably last season given his skillset, I just dont think (hope) the squad will be as weak this year in positions where he would play cause he isnt ready so a move would probably help his development?
DCL 1 goal every 263 minutes
Niasse did score a couple of flukes that helped out his average stats, that won’t happen all the time, that’s reserved for Harry Kane
I won't go through a long list of names, and I do take the point that you have to keep people happy, but I'm not saying we should sign a 3rd choice striker who is happy with 10-15 games, like Niasse.
I think we should sign another 1st choice/compete with Tosun level striker, and then DCL becomes your third choice striker. You need options.
If next season niasse gets like 1000 minutes we’ve failed in our recruitment.
Willing to go on record saying if we do replace Niasse, his replacement wont get as many goals as Niasse did last season.
Ideally, Batshuayi would be the 1B striker (for me).
He's not leaving Chelsea because he wants first team football to come to us and be our second choice, is he?
Everton are set to continue the clear-out of their squad. Morgan Schneiderlin is set to leave the club and sign for Marseille, Stoke City are interested in signing Ashley Williams and West Ham United are interested in signing Yannick Bolasie. (Source: Guardian)
Should start seeing some movement now.
Can’t say any of those will be missed. Three players who all threw the towel in at some point last season.
Everton are set to continue the clear-out of their squad. Morgan Schneiderlin is set to leave the club and sign for Marseille, Stoke City are interested in signing Ashley Williams and West Ham United are interested in signing Yannick Bolasie. (Source: Guardian)
Should start seeing some movement now.
Can’t say any of those will be missed. Three players who all threw the towel in at some point last season.
If that's the case then we've not done our homework properly if a replacement scores less than 9 goals or only plays 1000 minutes.
Everton are set to continue the clear-out of their squad. Morgan Schneiderlin is set to leave the club and sign for Marseille, Stoke City are interested in signing Ashley Williams and West Ham United are interested in signing Yannick Bolasie. (Source: Guardian)
Should start seeing some movement now.
Can’t say any of those will be missed. Three players who all threw the towel in at some point last season.
Any replacement for Niasse is probably going to play second fiddle to Cenk, and if that is the case, then they will be very hard pressed to get more than 9 goals. Niasse's strike rate was incredibly good this past season.
Rumour Garbutts on his way out finally as well. Some wages shipping out at this rate
Nah, any replacement would be brought in to put pressure on Tosun or even take his place rather than just make the odd cameo and chip in some goals. Strikers probably more than any other position need kept on their toes so I'd expect any player brought in to be a decent upgrade on Niasse.
Genuine question, when was the last time we had two strikers scoring 10+ goals in a season?
Regarding a striker; any hipsters tell me how Dolberg did last season? He was hyped up to buggery but it all seems to have gone quiet on that one. Dembele could be another option too.
Flying the contract man out to Ocean Beach are we, sign this and fuck off luke la
Haha
Always see this biff revving his grim royal blue Range Rover down old hall street on the way to the laundrettes.
Don’t like Danny Rose.
Spends 80 minutes of the match on his arse.
I really rate Tosun but I’m a big believer in signing starters and the old starters becoming subs if the new player is good enough.
If we can get Batshuayi we should, Tosun would still have a huge part to play.
I agree and thats why im worried about our transfer policy this season as we seem to be selling all of our first team players and leaving behind those that werent good enough to challenge them, weve already said we wont replace like for like with regards to numbers, so how are we going to strengthen our squad, which was pretty weak last season? I also dont know what other teams sells their leading goalscorer 2 seasons on a trot and doesnt have a replacement in before!
I agree and thats why im worried about our transfer policy this season as we seem to be selling all of our first team players
I also dont know what other teams sells their leading goalscorer 2 seasons on a trot and doesnt have a replacement in before!
Get rid of the shite, then we strengthen, it's not that hard to understand is it
I appreciate its hypothetical as it cant really be judged until the window closes, but im starting to read more into his 'we need to sell to buy' comment
But the shite you're referring to played a large part in us finishing 8th, so are they really that shite? The names mentioned to be on the way out (or already out) all played significant parts in where we finished. Brands stated we are reducing numbers so removing 7 members of the first team squad and replacing them with 3 or 4 doesnt make us better. I appreciate its hypothetical as it cant really be judged until the window closes, but im starting to read more into his 'we need to sell to buy' comment
We have a squad of 38 first team players and an astronomical wage bill that isn’t sustainable.
Why are people having such a hard time understanding that a lot of players need to get off the books.
It’s not sell to buy. It’s sell before you buy because there’s no room to bring players in before we shift a good few of them.
I really rate Tosun but I'm a big believer in signing starters and the old starters becoming subs if the new player is good enough.
If we can get Batshuayi we should, Tosun would still have a huge part to play.
ive just read that Tosun had a better shot conversion rate than harry kane last season, give him more chances next season and he'll get decent figures next season. Capable of getting 15+
But the shite you're referring to played a large part in us finishing 8th, so are they really that shite? The names mentioned to be on the way out (or already out) all played significant parts in where we finished. Brands stated we are reducing numbers so removing 7 members of the first team squad and replacing them with 3 or 4 doesnt make us better. I appreciate its hypothetical as it cant really be judged until the window closes, but im starting to read more into his 'we need to sell to buy' commentI can understand some of your argument but you must realise that the sales and purchases are when it is possible and not in any orderly fashion ,although that really would be nice.
I agree and thats why im worried about our transfer policy this season as we seem to be selling all of our first team players and leaving behind those that werent good enough to challenge them, weve already said we wont replace like for like with regards to numbers, so how are we going to strengthen our squad, which was pretty weak last season? I also dont know what other teams sells their leading goalscorer 2 seasons on a trot and doesnt have a replacement in before!
Every time I have seen Batshuayi he has been an absolute donkey. Did you see him try to kick the ball back into the net after Belgium scored last night?! Hilarious. He would be an overpriced flop here.
Is there a Vida thread? €18m bid.
https://twitter.com/scoutsattending/status/1012798448674983936
29 years old, was signed by Besiktas on a free transfer. Do not know much about him. https://www.transfermarkt.com/domagoj-vida/profil/spieler/46083
What about a cheeky loan to buy offer to bring Ross Barkley back home? I think he could thrive under Silva if fully fit.
What about a cheeky loan to buy offer to bring Ross Barkley back home? I think he could thrive under Silva if fully fit.
What about a cheeky loan to buy offer to bring Ross Barkley back home? I think he could thrive under Silva if fully fit.
Id be more up for Vida if he didnt have the worst haircut ive ever seen a footballer have.His defending is worse than his haircut.
Id be more up for Vida if he didnt have the worst haircut ive ever seen a footballer have.
Pretty clearly untrue. His strike rate has been solid everywhere he has been. And he especially impressed for Dortmund last season, where he hit 7 in 10 league games.
Id be more up for Vida if he didnt have the worst haircut ive ever seen a footballer have.
I think we should go in for this Mbappe fella. He seems totally obtainable and decent.
There were 1 or 2 suggestions for him last summer. It’s hard being a blue sometimes but for them that expect Simeone and Mbappa it must be hell
Diego Laxallt of Uruguay says hi from his corn rows lololCracking player though.
Actually? He was already considered one of the best, if not the best, teenage prospects.
Tenuous I know
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/he-has-another-deal-elsewhere-ajax-boss-confirms-ziyechs/xg40ba6vswnv11mxo523nnnsf
Thought it had already been pretty much announced as Roma.
Thought it had already been pretty much announced as Roma.d
Nice article.He wouldnt even give us a sniff mate.
That Yerry Mina does look good
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/01/world-cup-players-premier-league-colombia (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/01/world-cup-players-premier-league-colombia)
Players are back for pre season training today, so one would expect us to start strengthening pretty soon.
Judging by some of the football Japan are playing at the moment we should explore their players... Killing Belgium at the moment.
Judging by some of the football Japan are playing at the moment we should explore their players... Killing Belgium at the moment.Most of them are over the hill. Average age of the squad is 28 and I think all their best players are over. Inui who I've been impressed with is 30. Kagawa is 29. Yoshida is 29. Osako is 28. Honda 32. Hasebe 34. Haraguchi and Yamaguchi are both 27, mind, and Shibasaki 26.
Most of them are over the hill. Average age of the squad is 28 and I think all their best players are over. Inui who I've been impressed with is 30. Kagawa is 29. Yoshida is 29. Osako is 28. Honda 32. Hasebe 34. Haraguchi and Yamaguchi are both 27, mind, and Shibasaki 26.
They still played good football and we've paid good money for players that old or older.Yes, but they don't necessary represent good value for money, especially now.
Jaoa Mario anyone?
http://www.gazzamercato.it/calciomercato/inter-per-joao-mario-spuntano-everton-e-bournemouth/
Jaoa Mario anyone?
http://www.gazzamercato.it/calciomercato/inter-per-joao-mario-spuntano-everton-e-bournemouth/
Jaoa Mario anyone?He's crap
http://www.gazzamercato.it/calciomercato/inter-per-joao-mario-spuntano-everton-e-bournemouth/
Looks like Ramy Bensabaini is on our radar,couple of early editions reporting he looks like being our first signing?
Lookman ent going anywhere
A couple of those Colombians were rock solid at the back, good centre half’s are hard to find, would like to see us sign Alderwield from Spurs.
Suprised no one has mentioned Boufal as a possible signing. Anyone who has pissed of Mark Hughes is surely worth a shout lol. Boufal on the left and Walcott on the right could be devastating.
Suprised no one has mentioned Boufal as a possible signing. Anyone who has pissed of Mark Hughes is surely worth a shout lol. Boufal on the left and Walcott on the right could be devastating.
I'd take a look at Lamina from Saints.or Romeu
Wait for the Klaassen swap rumours plus a bit of cash, he seems to get mentioned at some point with every apparent midfield targetHa, how predictable..
Does something miraculous every 15 games, and then goes back to being distinctly underwhelming.
Does something miraculous every 15 games, and then goes back to being distinctly underwhelming.
Bit like Bolasie then
Watford Observer has us in for Richarlison for 40m apparently, cant see it myselfI'd be furious if we spent that on him, he was good for the first 2/3 months of the season then nowhere to be seen from around Christmas onwards. I'd be tempted to spend big on doucoure though.
I'd be furious if we spent that on him, he was good for the first 2/3 months of the season then nowhere to be seen from around Christmas onwards. I'd be tempted to spend big on doucoure though.Think he's a pretty good prospect, but overpriced. Aren't all premier league players though?
think almost whatever you paid for richarlison you could get back down the line
Is he consistent enough to play for us?
Why did he go off the boil second half of the season last year?
Manager leaving?
I'm also weary of managers bringing their mates in. See Arouna Kone/Alcaraz for RM or Martina for Koeman.
I think the new manager wasn’t using him I read somewhere
Is he consistent enough to play for us?
Why did he go off the boil second half of the season last year?
Manager leaving?
I'm also weary of managers bringing their mates in. See Arouna Kone/Alcaraz for RM or Martina for Koeman.
Meh, hard to say. Young player, they’re prone to patchy form.
I think it doesn’t take much to see he’s got an extremely high ceiling. He’s potentially an elite attacking player who could get you 10+ goals a year from out wide. With his frame and technical ability as well, I could see him having a mane-sized output.
Would pay £40m in a heartbeat to be honest with you.
Is anyone else reportedly in for him? 40 seems like megabucks. But I guess wide forwards are the guys costing you at the mo, so would probably cost that much for a similar PL player (similar in terms of age, form when he was bossing etc.). Wasn’t The kid from Villa quoted at a similar price?
Ugh grealish £40m? That would kill you that wouldn’t it. He’s a nice little player like but a £40m player surely tears the Chamionship apart? Those lads that were at wolves bossed it and I don’t think they’re £40m are they?
Is he better than Lookman who’s also in the same position?
Brands said we’re not buying players we’ve already got in the same position. Unless Lookman is leaving.
But is Ricarldson better? Is he 10 mill better? 20 mill better?
Is he better than Lookman who’s also in the same position?
Brands said we’re not buying players we’ve already got in the same position. Unless Lookman is leaving.
But is Ricarldson better? Is he 10 mill better? 20 mill better?
Grealish is going to Spurs for £20m.
Where the hell did I read 40?!
Where the hell did I read 40?!
Richarlison is a very good player, and has only just turned 21. Strong and direct often with an end product. But he is a very similar player/age to Lookman. Perhaps a tad better and reads the game a bit better, but theres not much in it. I'd like to think we can have both, as quality wide play is in short supply. So I would get shut of Bolasie and Niasse keep Lookman, bring in Richarlison (or Lozano), and have a mobile forward line that can swap around. The wingers can of course swap sides and If Tosun gets a short term injury, move those quality players around, even up front, and utilise DCL, in a more dynamic Silva like attack. We should be keeping hold of our quality players and getting shut of the sub-par players, not almost like for like swaps. Surely M&M think the same...
Haven't really kept abreast of much of our gossip over this summer as yet, apart from the tedious Tierney link. Is that because that is about the sum of it or are there any other bits of gossip floating about?
Didn't think the type of transformation we need to really enhance our chances of progressing was possible in 1window, but now we've got roughly a month left with no activity to date I'm starting to get a few jitters. Don't think were anywhere near the relegation zone or that, but it'd be nice to see some squad strengthening in the next week or so to give them and opportunity to gel with the team before kick off.
Didn't think the type of transformation we need to really enhance our chances of progressing was possible in 1window, but now we've got roughly a month left with no activity to date I'm starting to get a few jitters. Don't think were anywhere near the relegation zone or that, but it'd be nice to see some squad strengthening in the next week or so to give them and opportunity to gel with the team before kick off.
no one is buying, the WC is on...
no one is buying, the WC is on...Think there are only 4 or 5 teams in the premiership that haven't signed anyone, it's not like the world cup was sprung on us at the last minute either. Man u signed Fred during the world cup too, so it shouldn't be that big of an issue
Think there are only 4 or 5 teams in the premiership that haven't signed anyone, it's not like the world cup was sprung on us at the last minute either. Man u signed Fred during the world cup too, so it shouldn't be that big of an issue
On sky that we are interested in Forsberg! Wasn’t impressed at the World Cup and didn’t see much of him in Germany! Anyone watched him a few times?
I thought he was meant to be a good player but I watched every Sweden game and thought he was pretty poor every game to be honest.................not impressed really
.................not impressed reallyFrom what I've seen not a marked upgrade on what we have.
On sky that we are interested in Forsberg! Wasn’t impressed at the World Cup and didn’t see much of him in Germany! Anyone watched him a few times?
Rather keep hold of Lookman, amazingly they value him much higher than Lookman, international or not looked out of his depth in the world cup.
Rather keep hold of Lookman, amazingly they value him much higher than Lookman, international or not looked out of his depth in the world cup.So how has Lookman done there?
So how has Lookman done there?
Seriously, this is another case of "I have no idea who the player is but I need to give my opinion anyways".
So should we just listen to yours then, you must have been impressed by Forsberg I take it. For his age Lookman looks to have far more potential.Is that really what you read from my message? Messi was poor so if he was available we shouldn't sign him either.
I'd always assumed Forsberg was a No.10; I could be wrong, but I believe that is his position at RBL.He usually seems to play LW.
If so, not what we need right now. Decent player in the Bundesliga though.
You can’t tell me you’re not starting to sweat yet
You can’t tell me you’re not starting to sweat yet
According to Twitter people, we still have a massive overspend on the wage bill and want to reduce that drastically before making any signings. The Koeman/Walsh era properly left us in the shit by the sounds of it.Don't see how you can blame koeman/ Walsh for this? Moshiri is in charge and supposed to be an accountant, he signed the cheques so he's ultimately responsible for where we are. If I was in Koemans boots and got a green light to do what I wanted id do exactly the same, never his job you worry about anything other than the team.
You can’t tell me you’re not starting to sweat yet
Been sweating for what seems like an eternity with this bastard weather. I can no longer remember a time before th eheat made me hate the world.
That is what you're talking about isn't it?
a handful of days after the new guys have started work with the squad?
Flappy McFlapperson
This is the tweet (it's from The Esk, so some of you will claim it's bullshit anyway, but it breaks the figures down to show our current position re wages):
https://twitter.com/theesk/status/1015978848155062272
No sure how you convince a lender to give you half a billion pounds for the new stadium with figures like that.
Funes Mori, Robles, Rooney, Garbutt & Onyekuru isn't a bad start, with the new management team only being behind the desk for a week or so.
Still think we'll have to see another handful leave before we bring someone in.
Galloway, Browning, Martina & Williams
Besic, Mccarthy and possibly Klaasen
Bolasie, Mirallas, Tarashaj and possibly Sandro
That's an entire outfield team that we could lose and wouldn't even weaken our team. We'd still have a squad of 20.
It's a herculean task and one that may not be able to be finished in one window.
As long as we get a left back and another striking option over the line in a month i'd be content if we shifted the majority of that lot as well.
Jags/Holgate/Keane is the only place we look a bit thin on the ground in that situation.
Don't see how you can blame koeman/ Walsh for this? Moshiri is in charge and supposed to be an accountant, he signed the cheques so he's ultimately responsible for where we are. If I was in Koemans boots and got a green light to do what I wanted id do exactly the same, never his job you worry about anything other than the team.
I reckon we will only make one or two signings close to the end of the window, and I don't think Lozano will be one of them. Tierney and Mina I reckon.
I was for that, but i think @GLewis (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=258) has talked me down with his appraisal of where he is at as a player.
Come off it now.
Lots of work to do, a month to do it, squad still grotesquely bloated with players the wrong age and devoid of quality all over the pitch.
If you’re not worried imo you don’t know how bad a position we’re in. Yes brands has got good will in the bank, but it’s ansolitely correct to be concerned considering the amount of ins and outs we need.
I don't think the players we have are half as bad as you're making out. So no, I'm not worried.
Have barely thought about it.
These arbitrary timelines and deadlines are amusing - ‘we need to have signed a player by x date’. You can sign three players on the same day, if you want, so I can’t really see anything to remotely stress about.
Yarmolenko having a medical at West Ham, 17mill.
There's a career in steady decline.Probably, be interesting to see how he gets on though.
Yarmolenko having a medical at West Ham, 17mill.
Did he flop at Dortmund?I think so
Theyre moving him on after just one season.
I don't think the players we have are half as bad as you're making out. So no, I'm not worried.
There's a career in steady decline.
Anyone who's worried about West Ham should look at West Ham for the past 20 years. Basket case.
did tom power write on this site?
where is yarmolenko coming from and hows he been playing past couple of years?
Me neither. The players we have in a different system under a different manager could be very good.
Chill pill time
Is this the last time we're all allowed to say this?
We've been saying this since Martinez left. That's 4 coaches ago...
But since RM left we’ve finished 7th and 8th - suggesting that they are alright, unless you think that the last two managers wrung every last drop out of them.
But since RM left we’ve finished 7th and 8th - suggesting that they are alright, unless you think that the last two managers wrung every last drop out of them.In which case, wanting the pair of them sacked was a bit unfair.
But since RM left we’ve finished 7th and 8th - suggesting that they are alright, unless you think that the last two managers wrung every last drop out of them.
No, but I think residual quality + a garbage league has helped. Leicester dropped off, Southampton dropped off, West Ham dropped off, Newcastle haven’t come back up to level they were, Burnley were above us.
Our demonstrably good prem-level players are a year older (for some this is a genuine worry, for others it just means a near-drastic drop in value) and we haven’t solved any of the last few years glaring gaps other than arguably RW with Theo, but he is a notoriously patchy player with injury problems (who’s the wrong side of 25 to boot.)
The long term squad building failures - back up for Baines, replacement for jags, replacement for Baines also actually, back up for Coleman, replacement for Barry (Morgan but..), replacement for lukaku (no not Tosun), replacement for Barkley, replacement for pienaar - are still largely present, but all those players still with us are now older so even less likely to perform or play as many minutes.
Teams around us, and by this I mean Leicester, Burnley, Southampton (3 teams well placed with quality) and West Ham and wolves to an extent (some quality, some loon factor) ARE improving.
Dunno, tell me it’s fine if you like, it PROBABLY will be, but I can’t watch another year like the one just gone, and pace, youth, quality and goals are all looking a little thin on the ground at the moment to me...
The day I start worrying about what West Ham, Burnley, Leicester and Wolves are doing is the I pack footy in for good! Let them throw money away by overpaying for average players, they will still finish below us next season
Not what I am saying but yes okay the year is 1987 and we are on top of the world.
You've lost me there like
He means we shouldn’t just ignore that type of club potentially being better than us.
We’re not in a position of the top teams where say if City have a terrible year there not finishing below Southampton, it’ll be 6th at worst.
Mentioned it before but we do need to take confidence from the fact that we were rubbish for so much of last season but still finished 8th.
But we do need to learn from those mistakes.
He means we shouldn’t just ignore that type of club potentially being better than us.
We’re not in a position of the top teams where say if City have a terrible year there not finishing below Southampton, it’ll be 6th at worst.
Mentioned it before but we do need to take confidence from the fact that we were rubbish for so much of last season but still finished 8th.
But we do need to learn from those mistakes.
I'm glad in some ways that he's getting to have a good look at most of the players before making his decisionI think he’s been looking since he got the ass from Watford, which is a massive plus for us.
I think he’s been looking since he got the ass from Watford, which is a massive plus for us.
Yes this is all true but it’s only 1 year on so maybe Jags and Baines might fall off the cliff.
None of the of the older players are at that point I wouldn’t say.
Well maybe no but none of them are getting any better.
Plus Walcott and Bolasie you would say are two of our most athletically capable players and they are post peak. If anything, players who rely on athletic ability (especially explosive) drop off sharper than any others.
They’re worse and a year older
did tom power write on this site?Yeah POWER is still knocking about.
Nah, you're flapping mate. In the end we finished pretty comfortably in 8th, with pretty much everyone playing well below the standard we know they're capable of. With a decent, progressive thinking manager and coaching team in place I'm confident of seeing a marked improvement from pretty much everyone.
The way you go on you'd think we were one of the worst teams in the league.
We've been playing below that standard for 4 seasons now, though. Koeman's full season was the closest we came to any sort of form in that period, but even then Lukaku's goals papered over a lot of cracks.
I agree there's some improvement to be gained and a different style should help lighten the mood. But at what stage do we point the finger at the ageing, bloated, stagnant squad rather than the succession of managers trying to get a tune out of them?
Fulham signing that Seri lad from Nice, massive that.If they get him great signing....
Fulham signing that Seri lad from Nice, massive that.
Fulham signing that Seri lad from Nice, massive that.18 mill too, surely we should've tried?
After this one. If they're crap under Marco then fair enough
We haven't had an attack minded manager since RM so let's see how they do in a new system with a guy who actually has decent coaching and man management skills.
We're unlikely to break into the top 6 this season anyway so what's the point in bringing in anyone else in unless they're a step up from what we have and we're not really in a position to attract those players currently. Buying more players to finish 7th doesn't make any sense when the current ones can probably do that anyway
We need to trust Silva and Brands. Silva in particular will have had ample time to look at the squad, we need to build and they'll know that.
I personally aren't worried in the slightest, I'm just excited to see how it all pans out on the pitch come August
Fulham signing that Seri lad from Nice, massive that.
He’s probably not that good if he’s going to Fulham lads.
Sigurdsson replaced Barkley and is more effective than he ever was.
Every time I see this thread, a song from Grease jumps into my head.
Don't think any of us are saying we're worried, or don't trust these two guys. Just when do we start pointing the finger at the real problem that a lot of people seem to ignore?
Our players aren't good enough. We're miles off the top 6, and slightly better than the rest, and actually falling back closer to "the rest" then moving closer to the top 6(last 4 seasons finishes were 11,11,7,8). A good coach could do what with this squad? finish 7th with 55 ish points? That would probably be it at best with this group of players. I'd be blown away if Silva could do that with the group of players we have right this second.
We need much better players.
I think some of the flappers on here would take John travolta and Olivia Newton John as signings right nowWell they certainly would be an upgrade on Williams and Keane partnership
I think some of the flappers on here would take John travolta and Olivia Newton John as signings right now 😆
They don’t do the same job really.
In terms of pure effectiveness he got 4 goals and 3 assists.
The last time Ross got less than that was 2014.
Only because Sigurdsson was misused, he'll be the out and out number 10 this year I imagine.
Would like to see us get a move on now.
Arsenal and West Ham have signed loads of players and they both had new managers.
No Brapesque flapping, but would like to start seeing something more concrete.
Not worried yet, but if there's no positive transfer news by the end of next week then it will be panic stationsDefo
We're still trying to clear the shit out of all the lockersRead this week that Pulis wanted Besic at Middlesboro, then I read he didn't want him.
Would like to see us get a move on now.
Arsenal and West Ham have signed loads of players and they both had new managers.
No Brapesque flapping, but would like to start seeing something more concrete.
Join me up here on this ledge, the view is tremendous
Would like to see us get a move on now.
Arsenal and West Ham have signed loads of players and they both had new managers.
No Brapesque flapping, but would like to start seeing something more concrete.
Do you feel West Ham are doing what we did last year though? Would piss me off if it clicked with them.
Do you feel West Ham are doing what we did last year though? Would piss me off if it clicked with them.
The day I start worrying about what West Ham, Burnley, Leicester and Wolves are doing is the I pack footy in for good! Let them throw money away by overpaying for average players, they will still finish below us next seasonJust the way we did last season you mean
Just the way we did last season you mean
We should sell more than we buy I think, but if we don’t sign :
A cm who can pass
A cb who is prem ready
A lb who is prem ready
At very least, we will struggle.
Some of you seem to have a lot of faith in our squad and new management, i will say that.
Struggle to do what though?
Agree we need lb and cb.
A cm who is good at transition from defence to attack (whatever way) would be nice too.
I think all three are vital firstly, I don’t think I can watch a midfield MORE turgid than last year.
Let me just say that when im moaning and I know it is dramatic, I’m not saying like - oh god we’ve blown it, we’re going down.
What I mean is as a fan I know it will be very hard to follow everton next year and take any measure of joy from watching us scrape inside the top 10 struggling to play style of football that I like to watch.
I'm going the Blackburn game.
Decided if no one is in by then I'm going to start flapping.
Especially when we’re 2-0 down with no shots on target after an hour ;)
Love a day out at Ewood.
Love a day out at Ewood.was my favourite away day that, until they made the fernhurst a home fans only pub
Not entirely surprised about our lack of activity tbh, disappointed yes, but not surprised. Every year when we have spent 'big' its mainly been down to the fact that its been offset by a major outgoing, should that be Lukaku or Stones in recent years. Moshiri hasn't ever really dipped his hand in his pocket to the extent some think. Yes the wage bill might've increased, which he clearly didnt appreciate hence the need to offload a fair few this month, but with us having no superstar that we can flog for stupid money it was always going to be a modest spend.4th highest PL net spend since 2014, agree with everything else you said there though
Disappointing when I see West Ham making signings almost every day now. Don't think they will all pan out but they likely have made a couple good signings.They'll improve, but not as much as their fans think they will. Still a lot of average footballers in their squad.
They'll improve, but not as much as their fans think they will. Still a lot of average footballers in their squad.
I don't know how you can be so sure about it. All they have to do is improve slightly and they're in the mix for 7th, which is about what their fans could hope for.Their manager is washed up and couldn't do it in the Chinese league, id question his hunger for it at this stage of his career, we ''weren't impressed'' when we interviewed him in 2016.
Yup, Mina, Tierney, Loftus-Cheek, and Lozano should do. With a dozen dead wooders got rid of.
Fuck me Jean Michel Seri has gone to Fulham . One of the best midfielders in France in the last couple of seasons . Just the sort of creative player we need .
I don't know how you can be so sure about it. All they have to do is improve slightly and they're in the mix for 7th, which is about what their fans could hope for.Just seen Carroll and Reid out until mid October. SSN
Joyce saying we’re after Mina and Lucas Digne.
Maybe they thought they could get Digne a fair bit cheaper (with a better pedigree so far), and that's why we've walked away from Tierney, for now.Celtic might be the ones flapping atm if they are relying on the Tierney money to strengthen in other areas, they might be getting a squeaky bum and agree on our terms and conditions before to long
Brands might actually be doing his job rather diligently, and we're all flapping about nothing.
Maybe they thought they could get Digne a fair bit cheaper (with a better pedigree so far), and that's why we've walked away from Tierney, for now.
Brands might actually be doing his job rather diligently, and we're all flapping about nothing.
Maybe they thought they could get Digne a fair bit cheaper (with a better pedigree so far), and that's why we've walked away from Tierney, for now.It's pretty encouraging that there appears to be multiple targets that we're willing to go through if we get knocked back/think the fee is too high.
Brands might actually be doing his job rather diligently, and we're all flapping about nothing.
I'd read somewhere that Seri suffers from really bad Chilblaines; which is why he had never moved to the UK before. If true, it could impact on his form throughout the season.
No doubt Nice is a bit warmer but I think the medical team may have looked at it . I saw that last year but I think Fulham have got themselves a Kante or Mahrez type signing there . I will be really surprised if he doesn't make a big impression this season . If they keep Dembele as well they could be a surprise package like they were when Tigana managed them a few years back . I am big Jokanovic fan as well .
Dembele's not been at Fulham for 4 years?
Doucoure with a cryptic wait and see tweet...
No doubt Nice is a bit warmer but I think the medical team may have looked at it . I saw that last year but I think Fulham have got themselves a Kante or Mahrez type signing there . I will be really surprised if he doesn't make a big impression this season . If they keep Dembele as well they could be a surprise package like they were when Tigana managed them a few years back . I am big Jokanovic fan as well .
Doucoure with a cryptic ‘wait and see’ tweet...Just a ploy to get a new contract.
Dembele's not been at Fulham for 4 years?
That's late this year, the first "muppet delegation" reference usually comes way before mid July.
No doubt Nice is a bit warmer but I think the medical team may have looked at it . I saw that last year but I think Fulham have got themselves a Kante or Mahrez type signing there . I will be really surprised if he doesn't make a big impression this season . If they keep Dembele as well they could be a surprise package like they were when Tigana managed them a few years back . I am big Jokanovic fan as well .
Be all eyes back to club footie once this weekend's out of the way.
Maybe a tad surprised we haven't moved a couple more players on by now.
Wonder how long it will be before people start to fume/panic about lack of movement playerwise
Out of interest how long do players like McCarthy, besic, miralles, martina and Williams have left on their contracts?.............Williams 2019 ,Besic 2021 ,the other three 2020
What do you mean before people start to panic? @brap2 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) and @Waltzer (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1907) hit the panic button at about 9.30 on Monday May 14th. ;)Was the 12th actually so get your facts straight!!!
.............Williams 2019 ,Besic 2021 ,the other three 2020
What do you mean before people start to panic? @brap2 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) and @Waltzer (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1907) hit the panic button at about 9.30 on Monday May 14th. ;)
Be all eyes back to club footie once this weekend's out of the way.
Maybe a tad surprised we haven't moved a couple more players on by now.
Wonder how long it will be before people start to fume/panic about lack of movement playerwise
Be all eyes back to club footie once this weekend's out of the way.
Maybe a tad surprised we haven't moved a couple more players on by now.
Wonder how long it will be before people start to fume/panic about lack of movement playerwise
Betis have just confirmed the signing of Carvalho. So we can put that one to bed!
For money it is it another questionable free from Lisbon'Rumoured 20 million euros' i read.
Signed anyone yet?
Ok so I'll admit that I'm now slightly concerned
Maybe Silva and Brands now think they can get an epic tune out of Lookman, Vlasic, Holgate, Keane, Robinson, Baningime, Davies, Kenny, Besic, DCL etc, and that we don’t need much new blood.. 🤔
When's the deadline?
Surely that would be more worrying?? Management team driven mad by shite squad
google it
How do you know they’re shite?
Besic and Lookman both played really well in different league’s last year.
Maybe it’s the (lack of) coaching, fitness, and direction that has made them appear ‘shite’.
I don’t mean lookman but it’s a fair bet besic isn’t good enough for a start.
Maybe Silva and Brands now think they can get an epic tune out of Lookman, Vlasic, Holgate, Keane, Robinson, Baningime, Davies, Kenny, Besic, DCL etc, and that we don’t need much new blood.. 🤔
Would be amazed, but that’d also be a huge (unnecessary) risk for a club our size.
I’d even question whether a lot of those are even ready to make a significant impact over a season from the bench.
I dunno, man, it’s the longest he’s been injury-free, and it’s no surprise to me that he managed that free from the tutelage of Martinez and Koeman.
Even Keane has come out today and praised the intensity of Silva’s sessions, and admitted that at times last season the players weren’t fit enough.
Are we linked with him?
Max Meyer on a free 22 yrs old, german international, looks really speedy. Market value of 16 million euros. Looks like he tracks back and not afraid to get stuck in. Anyone here familiar with him??
They have no track record so until there starts to be one nerves will slowly build from here now the distractions of the World Cup are ending.
There's been nothing from the club regarding transfers for some time, and minimal stuff from the knowledgeable journalists, so people naturally fill that information vacuum with their own neuroses and speculation. And all of that is essentially made up in our own heads.
Stuff like 'they need to get one in by the end of the week'. Do they? Why? Because it might make us feel a bit better. But perhaps they don't judge it that way. Perhaps they judge it that they'll get signings in when they are ready to, and when the deal(s) are right. They're clearly in negotiations with different clubs, from Joyce's info.
Just to be clear, I'm not having a pop at anyone for getting a bit restless. We all have those feelings, myself included. But we should just recognise that the restlessness really doesn't mean anything, and we have absolutely no idea what's going on behind the scenes.
Are we linked with him?
There's been nothing from the club regarding transfers for some time, and minimal stuff from the knowledgeable journalists, so people naturally fill that information vacuum with their own neuroses and speculation. And all of that is essentially made up in our own heads.
Stuff like 'they need to get one in by the end of the week'. Do they? Why? Because it might make us feel a bit better. But perhaps they don't judge it that way. Perhaps they judge it that they'll get signings in when they are ready to, and when the deal(s) are right. They're clearly in negotiations with different clubs, from Joyce's info.
Just to be clear, I'm not having a pop at anyone for getting a bit restless. We all have those feelings, myself included. But we should just recognise that the restlessness really doesn't mean anything, and we have absolutely no idea what's going on behind the scenes.
I dont think I've ever heard quotes from a player saying the new manager is worst than the previous, or that their training methods arent good? Be pretty career limiting if Keane came out with 'Silva training sessions are terrible'. Keane may well be telling the truth, but its not going to be the most impartial of assessments. And if Besic is in the starting lineup/match day squad it says a lot for our desire to improve on 6-10th.
Although im slightly more concerned than others I still think this World Cup talk is nonsense, we are linked with players from Scotland - didnt make it, Germany - got knocked out in the group stages, Columbia - got knocked out over a week ago. Shaqiri played for Switzerland yet hes signed up at Liverpool, Fred signed for United at the World Cup, Ronaldo done and dusted, Fabianski signed for West Ham the list goes on, if there is an appetite to do a deal the World Cup doesnt prevent it happening and from my understanding of transfers 90% of the deal is done by agents who certainly arent playing anyway.
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/124598/Show/Max-Meyer
Physically not the biggest but excelled in the Bundesliga. Shades of Hazard, doesn’t give the ball away and completed passes at a high percentage.
They might've also been surprised with the quality of some of the players, and decided not to do as much business as they previously thought. Football management's not all about signings. It's also about working with players and improving them.
So if we had one player who we could realistically sign in the summer who would you want?
For me I’d like to see us sign Llorente from Spurs, he’s to good to be sat on their bench and would work well with Siggy as they did at Swansea. With Rooney likely to be off to the USA that would open up the 10 role and allow the partnership to flourish
This guy has a real hard-on for Meyer 😆
Nope
I think he could add something to our team and is available on a free as stated. Makes a nice change from spending 30 million plus before wages etc.
Max Meyer on a free 22 yrs old, german international, looks really speedy. Market value of 16 million euros. Looks like he tracks back and not afraid to get stuck in. Anyone here familiar with him??
Mundo Deportivo reporting we are going to be making a double bid for digne and mina
There’s way better LBs out there than this chump.
Luke shaws rejected us apparently
Luke Shaw rejects Everton
According to Duncan Castles on Saturday night, Man United defender Luke Shaw has rejected the opportunity to join Everton.
To be clear, Everton have made a move to sign Shaw.
The details of Everton’s bid hasn’t been made clear. However the Times have reported the following:
Luke Shaw has rejected the opportunity to rebuild his stalling career at Everton. Out of favour at Manchester United after spurning multiple chances to establish himself as the club’s starting left-back, Shaw has been made available for transfer in the current window as Jose Mourinho seeks to improve his defensive options.
Castles goes on to note that Shaw only wants to leave Man United in 2019 when his contract expires. Shaw would be a free agent in twelve months time.
The picture is beginning to form where Shaw has no future at Old Trafford, yet he’s prepared to sit out a season before leaving. https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/transfers/shaw-rejects-everton-alex-sandro-agrees-man-united/
Would rather have Martin shaw at least he’s professional
Luke shaws rejected us apparently
Luke Shaw rejects Everton
According to Duncan Castles on Saturday night, Man United defender Luke Shaw has rejected the opportunity to join Everton.
To be clear, Everton have made a move to sign Shaw.
The details of Everton’s bid hasn’t been made clear. However the Times have reported the following:
Luke Shaw has rejected the opportunity to rebuild his stalling career at Everton. Out of favour at Manchester United after spurning multiple chances to establish himself as the club’s starting left-back, Shaw has been made available for transfer in the current window as Jose Mourinho seeks to improve his defensive options.
Castles goes on to note that Shaw only wants to leave Man United in 2019 when his contract expires. Shaw would be a free agent in twelve months time.
The picture is beginning to form where Shaw has no future at Old Trafford, yet he’s prepared to sit out a season before leaving. https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/transfers/shaw-rejects-everton-alex-sandro-agrees-man-united/
Brilliant. Clearly Shaw's main concern is picking up massive wages, on a free transfer, rather than playing football and rebuilding some semblance of a career.
Awful attitude. Wouldn't have him within a million miles of us.
If we can't find the right deal for us, just go with Baines and Robinson for the season. I can't see that being too bad tbh, and it would give Robinson plenty of opportunities to develop.
Dont know much about him really but is Robinson ready to step up? Seems a big ask for someone who couldnt get game time last year when we never had a left back, or was he out on loan?
We cant be in a position again where we are relying on Martina if Baines got another injury. I think this is one of the most critical signings for us this year
He was at Bolton all season, played a lot. Got called up to the USA squad this summer off the back of it.
It really grates me when people take an opportunity to moan without doing their homework.
It wasnt a moan, it was a question followed by a statement regarding Martina? As you appear to have watched him do you think he is ready to deputise?
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Got a Betty Rubble one?
Got a Betty Rubble one?
Shaw is a clown, we'd be well served to avoid him. Bang average player since his injury + looks as though he struggles with his weight, which could well talk to the suggestion of an attitude problem.Probably down to value. B’mouth paid £20m for him and you’d imagine they’d want double that.
As an aside, I am really surprised that no one has been linked with Nathan Ake this summer. He has looked excellent on the occasions I have seen him play, is naturally left sided and with respect to Bournemouth, looks ripe for a move to a bigger club.
Shaw is a clown, we'd be well served to avoid him. Bang average player since his injury + looks as though he struggles with his weight, which could well talk to the suggestion of an attitude problem.
As an aside, I am really surprised that no one has been linked with Nathan Ake this summer. He has looked excellent on the occasions I have seen him play, is naturally left sided and with respect to Bournemouth, looks ripe for a move to a bigger club.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/marco-silva-explains-everton-sign-14910766
Marco Silva is confident Everton's power brokers will deliver the “players I ask them for” with less than a month of the transfer window left.
The Blues have yet to make a signing this summer but Silva confirmed their targets have been agreed upon with director of football Marcel Brands and that club officials are working hard to add to them to the ranks.
Everton must also reduce the size of their squad this summer and are hoping to work with a group of 25 players for the Portuguese coach's first season at Goodison.
Ramiro Funes Mori and Wayne Rooney have been sold, Joel Robles has left on a free and Luke Garbutt has gone on loan but a significant number of departures are still required as Everton reduce their wage bill to make way for new recruits.
And Silva remains confident the Blues will land their transfer targets before the August 9 deadline.
“We have to do it," Silva told the ECHO.
“It is something we have to do.
“We have our targets and we have already decided the positions we want to improve in our squad.
“We believe in all of our players but, for sure, we will do that and we have decided our targets.
“Our board, our chairman, our sporting director, they are doing everything they can to give me the players I ask them for.”
Everton, last week, walked away from talks with Celtic over left-back Kieran Tierney while they are in discussions with Barcelona about signing centre-half Yerry Mina.
Silva, it is believed, also wants to strengthen his midfield and attacking options this summer.
Barrios is very good.
But do we need him?
El Kante colombiano.
Very similar to gueye surely though?
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/marco-silva-explains-everton-sign-14910766
Marco Silva is confident Everton's power brokers will deliver the “players I ask them for” with less than a month of the transfer window left.
The Blues have yet to make a signing this summer but Silva confirmed their targets have been agreed upon with director of football Marcel Brands and that club officials are working hard to add to them to the ranks.
Everton must also reduce the size of their squad this summer and are hoping to work with a group of 25 players for the Portuguese coach's first season at Goodison.
Ramiro Funes Mori and Wayne Rooney have been sold, Joel Robles has left on a free and Luke Garbutt has gone on loan but a significant number of departures are still required as Everton reduce their wage bill to make way for new recruits.
And Silva remains confident the Blues will land their transfer targets before the August 9 deadline.
“We have to do it," Silva told the ECHO.
“It is something we have to do.
“We have our targets and we have already decided the positions we want to improve in our squad.
“We believe in all of our players but, for sure, we will do that and we have decided our targets.
“Our board, our chairman, our sporting director, they are doing everything they can to give me the players I ask them for.”
Everton, last week, walked away from talks with Celtic over left-back Kieran Tierney while they are in discussions with Barcelona about signing centre-half Yerry Mina.
Silva, it is believed, also wants to strengthen his midfield and attacking options this summer.
Defo in the mould of player so I don’t really see the point in signing him, especially if we’re going 4-3-3.
Yes Marco you beautiful man you
Defo in the mould of player so I don't really see the point in signing him, especially if we're going 4-3-3.Personally I think Gueye is an extremely limited player and offers nothing going forward. I know not everybody has to contribute to all attacking play etc, but I don't think it's hard to improve on him. His erratic play and school boy mentality of chasing the ball everywhere, whilst endearing to fans as its full blooded and committed, leaves us woefully short and pulls our players all over the place.
Personally I think Gueye is an extremely limited player and offers nothing going forward. I know not everybody has to contribute to all attacking play etc, but I don't think it's hard to improve on him. His erratic play and school boy mentality of chasing the ball everywhere, whilst endearing to fans as its full blooded and committed, leaves us woefully short and pulls our players all over the place.
I love him but I wouldn't be surprised if he struggled in the near future with the reshaping the midfield needs.I do enjoy watching him, but when you look at how overrun we sometimes are there seems to be a direct correlation with him being miles out of position. I also have it in my head that Schneiderlin is the much better player and a lot of the stick he gets is cause he's pulled all over the place due to Gueye never being where he should be
Shades of koemans comments before last season there.
I do enjoy watching him, but when you look at how overrun we sometimes are there seems to be a direct correlation with him being miles out of position. I also have it in my head that Schneiderlin is the much better player and a lot of the stick he gets is cause he's pulled all over the place due to Gueye never being where he should be
Is he not all over the place because he’s pressing and no fucker else is.
I do enjoy watching him, but when you look at how overrun we sometimes are there seems to be a direct correlation with him being miles out of position. I also have it in my head that Schneiderlin is the much better player and a lot of the stick he gets is cause he's pulled all over the place due to Gueye never being where he should beGueye over Morgan any day of the week for me.
Shades of koemans comments before last season there.
Periodico Mediterraneo says we’re after Denis Cheryshev
Shades of koemans comments before last season there.50 shades of Silva
I don't buy that.
For example -- last season's match against Silva's Watford (Unsworth in charge). We're defending a one goal lead late in the match, Watford are probing for an equalizer. We have a solid defensive shape, Watford have possession in a harmless part of midfield. Gana makes a mad dash to go win the ball, Watford work the ball around him and pass through the space he vacated to win a penalty. Pressuring the ball isn't some virtuous pursuit in this situation. We were winning, we were well positioned, Watford were up to absolutely nothing. Ultimately, we were lucky that Cleverley took an awful penalty.
Gana's game is full of these little gambles to win possession back, regardless of whether or not we need to win it. It's why I hate it when we give him any sort of positional freedom. I think all of his best football is played when he stays in his own half and moves side to side to break up or slow down counterattacks.
Shades of what any competent manager says in this situation. Would not worry too much, yet.
50 shades of Silva
Baningime is also that sort of player. And younger. And homegrown.
So yeah, no point.
91 pages and not a sausageThank you, was just deciding what to make for tea :thumbsup:
I'm not so much concerned, just more bored.Yep. Obviously it’s not for want of trying and I’d hate to see signings for the sake of it, but FFS Everton, you sure know how to kill a vibe.
Thankfully the world cup helped stem some of it but one of my favorite things about the close season is signing players.
I don't want us to sign for the sake of signing of course but it's just boss signing players.
Thankfully the window shuts before the season starts so we have no choice but to have our signings in before a ball is kicked.
I’m not worried to the extent of calling out Moshiri as a fraud like some bellends, however, I’m getting a bit concerned our lack of movement in the market may cause us have a slow start to the season.
Im not calling Moshiri out, although the initial optimism of what we might have achieved under him has well and truly sailed into the distance. Ive said it before, everything hes done has been to his own benefit and increased his potential return. He has done some amazing things, or is in the process of doing them, so providing they come off itll be worth it. But I dont see us challenging for anything other than the top 6-10 positions for the foreseeable future. I want more, as most people do, but im not expecting the levels of investment needed to get us there.
If we haven't brought anyone in by this weekend them I'm upgrading to full on panic mode
Does that involved swapping the bulb?
Im as much concerned about the lack of shipping players out and reliving the wage bill as I am about the lack of signings, so far we have shipped out Rooney and Mori, anyone else gone out on loan that we are not covering the wages for ? Its almost as if we are back to the sell to buy days !
Why would you not expect everything to be done to be to his own benefit and for his own return? And what levels of 'investment' were you expecting over what has been put in already?I wouldn't, you'd want to protect your investment and grow its worth if possible. But you need to remember he set the bar pretty high with some of the statements when he arrived and when you look at it objectively were no better off on the pitch than we were before his arrival. Appreciate its not his fault, but he has been responsible for putting a lot of people in place that have failed
It's almost as if no-one wants our overpaid players.
Or they do and know we need to get rid so will wait until deadline day to get a more favourable deal.And that's kind of the worry, if we genuinely need to offload a few before getting others in it could be a hectic last few days of the window.
Or they do and know we need to get rid so will wait until deadline day to get a more favourable deal.
Loads will be happening Everton wise over the next few weeks, patience the lads
We need to remember that were not signing 6-7 players come what may this window.Likes of klaasen, Williams and mirallas will leave on deadline day on loan probably.
We know, and all the noises seem to agree, what are the most pressing areas so theres no real need to panic there.
Is there, or should there be blind confidence that well sign 3 top class players this summer?
No. We know the score and have seen it too often to know things are rarely that simple.
I do have confidence that we will a) make decisions with the longer term in mind but also b) if push comes to shove Im sure well cover the immediate need.
Not signing a good striker was bad enough last season but not signing one at all, even on loan was awful.
I doubt well see that sort of scenario again.
And re shifting players, the only ones that move early in the market are either people who are really wanted or desperate to get away.
Most of ours wont fall into those groups but Id be surprised if most of the people we dont want arent moved on, if only in the short term.
Likes of klaasen, Williams and mirallas will leave on deadline day on loan probably.
(2) If you don't do anything, you can't do anything stupid.
Ugh grealish £40m? That would kill you that wouldn't it. He's a nice little player like but a £40m player surely tears the Chamionship apart? Those lads that were at wolves bossed it and I don't think they're £40m are they?Villa are skint 15 million offer they would bite your hand off. They have got rid of Wyness and Round in the close season.
We need to remember that we’re not signing 6-7 players come what may this window.
We know, and all the noises seem to agree, what are the most pressing areas so there’s no real need to panic there.
Is there, or should there be blind confidence that we’ll sign 3 top class players this summer?
No. We know the score and have seen it too often to know things are rarely that simple.
I do have confidence that we will a) make decisions with the longer term in mind but also b) if push comes to shove I’m sure we’ll cover the immediate need.
Not signing a good striker was bad enough last season but not signing one at all, even on loan was awful.
I doubt we’ll see that sort of scenario again.
And re shifting players, the only ones that move early in the market are either people who are really wanted or desperate to get away.
Most of ours won’t fall into those groups but I’d be surprised if most of the people we don’t want aren’t moved on, if only in the short term.
Top level GLewising there. Destroying the fear and paranoia with reason and rational thought.
I do have confidence that we will a) make decisions with the longer term in mind but also b) if push comes to shove I’m sure we’ll cover the immediate need.
Not signing a good striker was bad enough last season but not signing one at all, even on loan was awful.
I doubt we’ll see that sort of scenario again.
It’s not unwarranted fear though, is my point.
I don’t know why you’re being like this about it at all. Where does this confidence come from?
If I can jump in. I’m pretty chill about signings as it seems transfers can be turned around in like 48hrs. Well, it seems like 48 from where we’re standing but probs takes a bit more than that in reality.
I’m straight flapping about selling players though, which dead on contradicts what I types above. But I think it’s the fact 99% of the players we’re looking to shift are duds that brings that on.
It’s not unwarranted fear though, is my point.
I don’t know why you’re being like this about it at all. Where does this confidence come from?
They just need one signing that fits a need (LB for example) and is the type which shows what this regime is about. In the LB situation, that would be the likes of Tierney or Digne I suppose. A player of enough quality, but young enough that they have the potential to improve.
Do that and I think it would calm a lot of people and you could do the last few transfers in the last week. It's not just about calming fans, it's showing the current set of players we're adding quality and any other potential transfers we're also moving in the right direction.
It's not unwarranted fear though, is my point.
I don't know why you're being like this about it at all. Where does this confidence come from?
For me my main concern is about removing the fear we'll end up with Martina at LB at some point this season, which can be fixed by bringing in another left back or getting rid of Martina completely.
Second is about removing the fear we'll end up with Williams at CB at some point this season, which can be fixed by bringing in another centre back or getting rid of Williams completely.
Where does this confidence come from though?
I want it, I really do.
Agreed, two priority positions. To state the obvious, it's about who we bring in too, as replacing Martina with another second string level player isn't going to give many people confidence. We don't really want to sign PSV's second or third choice LB because he's available on the cheap for example (although maybe he's great, I don't know). We need 1 quality addition in to start things off right, and give everyone confidence we're heading in the right direction. Someone that is on some level an exciting signing, even if it's just they have the potential to be really good down the line.
It'd be nice to have Lozano level splash into the market, but just saw a story about him going to Spurs possibly :(, although that one always seemed a long shot.
I'm genuinely not arsed about making any kind of splash signing. As above, i'd be just as happy removing 2 players than bringing anyone in.
If we'd already signed a young forward from RB Leipzig, an attacking mid from the championship who scored and assisted a few goals last season, and a young LB who'd just broken into the USA side would you feel any better? And I know its a Bill-ism from the Moyes era, but they really are like new signings for this team based on the one that finished last season.