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Title: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 23, 2018, 02:36:57 PM
After watching our last 2 games, I have my concerns with this, I really do think we will concede a lot of goals with this approach, almost every time the opponents won the ball in the air.
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Waltzer on July 23, 2018, 02:41:29 PM
After watching our last 2 games, I have my concerns with this, I really do think we will concede a lot of goals with this approach, almost every time the opponents won the ball in the air.

Not with Mina at the back, hes about 14ft foot tall and will win everything
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 23, 2018, 02:53:03 PM
If anyone figures it out, can they let Daz know....
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 23, 2018, 02:54:17 PM
If anyone figures it out, can they let Daz know....
They were getting on my tits last night...somethings never change.
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on July 23, 2018, 03:32:34 PM
We havent been able to defend set pieces for a few years, so why the feck not try zonal marking :) Agreed with (if) Mina comes in, which will make a huge difference too, as will Pickford, who may not be the tallest, but is good at plucking balls out the air unlike a much taller Stek.
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: gaz deeside on July 27, 2018, 09:08:12 PM
Hate it.
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Risky on July 27, 2018, 09:25:02 PM
Nothing wrong with zonal marking as a tactic, does my head in when you hear pundits acting like it's some kind of affront to "proper" defending. I mean how frequently do defenders lose the man they're marking, but you'll never hear them saying "man marking is a load of rubbish" every time that happens.

That said it needs practice and it needs the players to understand their roles and to command their zone. It's not surprising that it's not working great after just a handful of friendlies, it needs time to make it work.

I think putting our defensive problems down to zonal marking is a big red herring to be honest.
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: brap2 on July 27, 2018, 09:32:31 PM
This is going to be a recurring conversation this year. This thread will break 30 pages no problem.
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Fynci on July 27, 2018, 09:37:21 PM
Posted elsewhere but I hope Silva is flexible as I can’t see it working with our current team.
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 27, 2018, 09:40:55 PM
Nothing wrong with zonal marking as a tactic, does my head in when you hear pundits acting like it's some kind of affront to "proper" defending. I mean how frequently do defenders lose the man they're marking, but you'll never hear them saying "man marking is a load of rubbish" every time that happens.

That said it needs practice and it needs the players to understand their roles and to command their zone. It's not surprising that it's not working great after just a handful of friendlies, it needs time to make it work.

I think putting our defensive problems down to zonal marking is a big red herring to be honest.

Think the main problem is we have been playing with shittastic defenders.  That fucks up any system.
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 27, 2018, 09:45:59 PM
Think you may well see this become quite popular if the refs carry on with the pens like they did at the world cup
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 27, 2018, 09:48:05 PM
This is going to be a recurring conversation this year. This thread will break 30 pages no problem.
Will be the first of mine that will ever has !
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: blargins on July 27, 2018, 09:56:37 PM
Not with Mina at the back, hes about 14ft foot tall and will win everything

And farts lighting bolts out of his arse...
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Cereal Killer on July 27, 2018, 10:03:30 PM
Think you may well see this become quite popular if the refs carry on with the pens like they did at the world cup

This

The 'man marking' tends to work by the defenders holding/blocking/dragging down the opposition rather than having any interest in winning the ball

Zonal marking will force them to actually head the ball
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 27, 2018, 10:09:49 PM
And farts lighting bolts out of his arse...

The morning after beak is a bitch.  Ahem, so I've heard.  :D
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Toddacelli on July 27, 2018, 10:27:02 PM
Nothing wrong with zonal marking as a tactic, does my head in when you hear pundits acting like it's some kind of affront to "proper" defending. I mean how frequently do defenders lose the man they're marking, but you'll never hear them saying "man marking is a load of rubbish" every time that happens.

That said it needs practice and it needs the players to understand their roles and to command their zone. It's not surprising that it's not working great after just a handful of friendlies, it needs time to make it work.

I think putting our defensive problems down to zonal marking is a big red herring to be honest.

I'll probably get slated for comparing the White Lion Old Boys to Prem teams like, but....

Zonal worked well for us to a point - it became really effective when we put our best defender on their biggest goal threat and had everyone else attack the ball from their zones.

So what I'm really about to get a kicking for is saying - 'Can't we have a bit of both?'
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 27, 2018, 11:13:53 PM
Watfrod were a bit shit defensively . I suppose their defenders weren't good enough . Ours on the other hand ……..
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 27, 2018, 11:15:41 PM
I'll probably get slated for comparing the White Lion Old Boys to Prem teams like, but....

Zonal worked well for us to a point - it became really effective when we put our best defender on their biggest goal threat and had everyone else attack the ball from their zones.

So what I'm really about to get a kicking for is saying - 'Can't we have a bit of both?'

As a tactic I have always found " some cunt get his head on the ball " mentality from your defence works rather well .
Title: Re: Zonal marking on set plays and corners
Post by: Toddacelli on July 28, 2018, 12:31:06 AM
As a tactic I have always found " some cunt get his head on the ball " mentality from your defence works rather well .

I pretty much was that cunt