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Title: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on August 12, 2018, 04:09:35 AM
So far

Onyekuru (Galatasaray)
Connolly (Wigan)
Robinson (Wigan)
Mirallas (Fiorentina)
Garbutt (Oxford)
Williams (Stoke)
Tarashaj (Grasshopper)

Connolly scored against Villa today and played as a DM. Robinson also played.


Garbutt doing terribly https://yellowsforum.co.uk/threads/player-ratings-vs-fleetwood.1132/

Williams made his debut coming on after half an hour for Stoke and wasn't a disaster.

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: velimski on August 12, 2018, 04:41:27 AM
Could we have a seperate thread which doesn't include Mirallas, Williams and Garbutt just so that I don't have to be reminded of them at any stage of my life ever again  please?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 12, 2018, 08:16:08 AM
Could we have a seperate thread which doesn't include Mirallas, Williams and Garbutt just so that I don't have to be reminded of them at any stage of my life ever again  please?

Just wait until Mo, Bolasie and Vlasic can be added to this  ;D
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Outworlder47 on August 12, 2018, 10:15:45 AM
Just wait until Mo, Bolasie and Vlasic can be added to this  ;D

Vlasic apparently off to CSKA Moscow, though no confirmation that I can tell. S*n reported that they made a £9M permanent bid for him, which is so derisory that it's hard to believe considering we paid £10M. CSKA's got plenty of cash from selling Golovin.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: howard1334 on August 12, 2018, 10:57:29 AM
Could we have a seperate thread which doesn't include Mirallas, Williams and Garbutt just so that I don't have to be reminded of them at any stage of my life ever again  please?

Can the hating on Mirallas please end now that he has left. It has always been over the top, but especially after a preseason where he obviously put in effort and then left without making any negative comments about Everton, it is just so unnecessary.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 12, 2018, 02:12:47 PM
Garbutt deffo isn’t a footballer.

He’s deffo going to be flogging Herbalife or some shit in the next 18 months.

His career should be timelined and stuck on the academy walls as a cautionary tale.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: irishtoffee on August 12, 2018, 02:35:07 PM
Vlasic apparently off to CSKA Moscow, though no confirmation that I can tell. S*n reported that they made a £9M permanent bid for him, which is so derisory that it's hard to believe considering we paid £10M. CSKA's got plenty of cash from selling Golovin.
It's hardly derisory. Just because we over paid doesn't mean they have to. He certainly hasn't shown anything to increase his value
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Goaljira on August 12, 2018, 05:11:47 PM
Vlasic apparently off to CSKA Moscow, though no confirmation that I can tell. S*n reported that they made a £9M permanent bid for him, which is so derisory that it's hard to believe considering we paid £10M. CSKA's got plenty of cash from selling Golovin.

Did we really play that much for him?  I thought it was like half that. :(
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jamokachi on August 12, 2018, 05:13:04 PM
Did we really play that much for him?  I thought it was like half that. :(

In a world where Danny Ings is worth 20m, what's 10?!
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on August 12, 2018, 06:12:19 PM
Can the hating on Mirallas please end now that he has left. It has always been over the top, but especially after a preseason where he obviously put in effort and then left without making any negative comments about Everton, it is just so unnecessary.

So no one's allowed to comment about him unless it's to say something nice, is he your brother or something?

Most of the stick he gets is warranted, and it's criticism as opposed to outright abuse anyway. He's done better out of Everton than we ever got out of him, he's hardly turned up in the last two or three seasons and his attiude has been questionable at best, he's managed to fall out of favour with 4 managers all of different personalities in the time he's been here.

Just because he did his annual 'turn up for two or three games' in pre season isn't going to do much to change people's opinions of him now. Putting in the effort in pre season should be the minimum requirement, especially with a new manager to try and impress. I'm not surprised he left without saying anything negative about the club, that nice new contract he got through to 2020 should keep him happy enough. The club's looked after him well, he should have little to complain about.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: MmmblueBernard on August 12, 2018, 06:54:06 PM
Fuck Mirallas.

He’s mugged this club off for millions.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 12, 2018, 08:46:51 PM
Can’t wait until we finally bin him off. Him only going on loan and Besic deciding to sit in the stand and play the odd U-23 game instead of going to a club with ambitions to play in the PL slightly took the edge off the amazing transfer window.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: howard1334 on August 12, 2018, 10:25:28 PM
So no one's allowed to comment about him unless it's to say something nice, is he your brother or something?

Most of the stick he gets is warranted, and it's criticism as opposed to outright abuse anyway. He's done better out of Everton than we ever got out of him, he's hardly turned up in the last two or three seasons and his attiude has been questionable at best, he's managed to fall out of favour with 4 managers all of different personalities in the time he's been here.

Just because he did his annual 'turn up for two or three games' in pre season isn't going to do much to change people's opinions of him now. Putting in the effort in pre season should be the minimum requirement, especially with a new manager to try and impress. I'm not surprised he left without saying anything negative about the club, that nice new contract he got through to 2020 should keep him happy enough. The club's looked after him well, he should have little to complain about.

Calm down, Gash. I think that basically all criticism and character attacks basically stem from one incident -- where he wrongly took the penalty off of Baines. He clearly did fuck up there, but otherwise, comments re: his effort and character appear to be way overblown.

Yes, he was long one of my favorite players, so I am defensive of him. But the constant attacks on him are tiresome anyways.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on August 12, 2018, 11:12:02 PM
Calm down, Gash. I think that basically all criticism and character attacks basically stem from one incident -- where he wrongly took the penalty off of Baines. He clearly did fuck up there, but otherwise, comments re: his effort and character appear to be way overblown.

Yes, he was long one of my favorite players, so I am defensive of him. But the constant attacks on him are tiresome anyways.

Haha, calm down? Mate, I'm perfectly calm but then I'm not the one on an internet forum asking people not to have a go at a player just because I like him.

I think the penalty incident just confirmed what a lot of people were already thinking about him rather than be the cause of people's dislike, he very much thinks of himself and isn't a team player on the park. He's had plenty games when he's not looked arsed or flattered to deceive. I think that's another reason people have a go, plenty have been willing to forgive and forget only for him to come back and put in another half arsed performance.

I'm not just having a go for the sake of it either, I stuck up for him when Martinez was leaving him out and felt he should play him and that he was being harshly treated. But you can go back as far as 2015 to find him making noises that he might need to leave as he wasn't getting games.

Anyway, with any luck he'll leave after this season and you won't need to worry about people having a go at him anymore.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on August 12, 2018, 11:43:36 PM
Can't believe people are even arsed enough about Mirallas to have a strong discussion about him. Total non entity of a player.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on August 13, 2018, 12:12:55 AM
Can't believe people are even arsed enough about Mirallas to have a strong discussion about him. Total non entity of a player.

This coming from the master of the mundane. ;)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bluenose 91 on August 13, 2018, 01:15:39 AM
I hope his wife leaves him.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bluedylan on August 20, 2018, 02:47:13 AM
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: cantoffee on August 20, 2018, 02:55:15 AM
Nice finish, he seems like one who has a high ceiling and would contribute as soon as he can get a work permit
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 20, 2018, 11:56:04 PM
https://twitter.com/guycalledsam/status/1030887129163943943
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: blue slug on August 21, 2018, 12:17:48 AM
Garbutt popular then 😆
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 21, 2018, 01:43:33 PM
 
https://twitter.com/guycalledsam/status/1030887129163943943

I’m telling ya, flogging Herbalife on instagram inside 18 months.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 22, 2018, 12:01:08 AM
Fuck Mirallas.

He’s mugged this club off for millions.

many others have done the same... including shareholders and board members..

i got no issues with Mirallas, i dont get why people feel like they need to swear/abuse players who are deemed no longer good enough.. he provided some good memories... some people have short attention spans i guess...

just wish he never got that injury v Liverpool...
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Outworlder47 on August 22, 2018, 12:56:33 AM
Garbutt popular then 😆

Got subbed off after an hour at the weekend, and is on the bench today.

Also: He's just two months younger than Digne.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2018, 03:15:49 AM
many others have done the same... including shareholders and board members..

i got no issues with Mirallas, i dont get why people feel like they need to swear/abuse players who are deemed no longer good enough.. he provided some good memories... some people have short attention spans i guess...

just wish he never got that injury v Liverpool...

many others have done the same... including shareholders and board members..

i got no issues with Mirallas, i dont get why people feel like they need to swear/abuse players who are deemed no longer good enough.. he provided some good memories... some people have short attention spans i guess...

just wish he never got that injury v Liverpool...

Haven’t you spent the last two months crying about Schneiderlin giving it absolutely loads?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 22, 2018, 03:22:48 AM
Haven’t you spent the last two months crying about Schneiderlin giving it absolutely loads?

i never swore at him, i never said he conned millions off the club... i just said he hasnt played well..

i made maybe 4 posts in 2 months regarding Schneiderlin, i said his displays where woeful, that he made plenty of mistakes... i based my posts on what he did (didnt do)


i could have went the same way  mmmbluebernard and dissed him as a professional and said fuck him.

Also Mirallas has been here for here for 6 years, while Schneiderlin for not even 2, Mirallas has also assisted more/scored more and worked harder in those 6 years than i have seen Schneiderlin work the last 18 months..

maybe dislike Mirallas for his car, his showboaty lifestyle, crap taste in car colors and for taking the pen off of Baines.. i disliked Schneiderlin for being a shit player..

but i would still like Schneiderlin to do well, and show me what he can do.. hopefully that will happen.

TL:DR big difference in what i was saying about Morgan and what mmmbluebernard is saying bout Kevin.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2018, 03:25:10 AM
Why are people still trying to defend Mirallas.

He downed tools three years ago. He’s another clubs problem now.

Hopefully silva will have no time for the Kevin Mirallas type of player anymore.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2018, 03:32:09 AM
i never swore at him, i never said he conned millions off the club... i just said he hasnt played well..

i made maybe 4 posts in 2 months regarding Schneiderlin, i said his displays where woeful, that he made plenty of mistakes... i based my posts on what he did (didnt do)


i could have went the same way  mmmbluebernard and dissed him as a professional and said fuck him.

Also Mirallas has been here for here for 6 years, while Schneiderlin for not even 2, Mirallas has also assisted more/scored more and worked harder in those 6 years than i have seen Schneiderlin work the last 18 months..

maybe dislike Mirallas for his car, his showboaty lifestyle, crap taste in car colors and for taking the pen off of Baines.. i disliked Schneiderlin for being a shit player..

but i would still like Schneiderlin to do well, and show me what he can do.. hopefully that will happen.

TL:DR big difference in what i was saying about Morgan and what mmmbluebernard is saying bout Kevin.

Haha. Ok sound mate. 👍
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Risky on August 23, 2018, 03:41:35 AM
I've not seen much of the game but Ashley Williams has just been sent off for a 2nd yellow which he probably could have had earlier.  Stoke are 3-0 down and the commentator said that Williams had had a "calamitous" evening.

Completely lost his legs and head even at a lower level by the looks of things.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: blue slug on August 23, 2018, 03:47:24 AM
I've not seen much of the game but Ashley Williams has just been sent off for a 2nd yellow which he probably could have had earlier.  Stoke are 3-0 down and the commentator said that Williams had had a "calamitous" evening.

Completely lost his legs and head even at a lower level by the looks of things.

He really is utter shite ain’t he even at championship level lol
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 23, 2018, 03:51:13 AM
Williams sent off for Stoke hahahhah
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Juanito on August 23, 2018, 04:11:57 AM
Williams sent off for Stoke hahahhah

Worst challenge ever. Got legs of lead.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Alanvideo on August 23, 2018, 04:13:19 AM
Stoke could be this season's Sunderland.  :wag:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on August 23, 2018, 04:20:01 AM
Stoke could be this season's Sunderland.  :wag:

Great. Let's offload any unwanted players to them in Jan and then take their best player at the end of the season.

Er....   do Stoke even have a player we would take anymore?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: kramer0 on August 23, 2018, 04:40:13 AM
The midfielder didn't do him any favors but that's an awful challenge.

https://streamable.com/h1w1n (https://streamable.com/h1w1n)

Also, what was he thinking adding that blonde streak to his hair?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on August 23, 2018, 04:40:31 AM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/281759/stoke-wigan-athletic-match-thread?page=26
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jamokachi on August 23, 2018, 04:45:01 AM
The midfielder didn't do him any favors but that's an awful challenge.

https://streamable.com/h1w1n (https://streamable.com/h1w1n)

Also, what was he thinking adding that blonde streak to his hair?

A complete horror show for any Welshman watching. Christ.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Goaljira on August 23, 2018, 04:47:29 AM
They'd best not try and send him back.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 23, 2018, 04:49:56 AM
How did the Everton lads do for Wigan?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 23, 2018, 04:52:50 AM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/281759/stoke-wigan-athletic-match-thread?page=26

A lot of comments there saying Williams doesn’t even look arsed, some saying he got himself sent on purpose.

Same old story.

He’s had his big move, made his money, doesn’t have the heart anymore.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Alanvideo on August 23, 2018, 05:02:52 AM
The midfielder didn't do him any favors but that's an awful challenge.

https://streamable.com/h1w1n (https://streamable.com/h1w1n)

Also, what was he thinking adding that blonde streak to his hair?
...................he should get an automatic red card for that hair-do.
That's 2 red cards in 3 starts btw.   :blush:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Robber Rodwell on August 23, 2018, 06:12:18 AM
Amazing how he peaked at the euros, before turning into a shithouse.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: bluenuck on August 23, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
A lot of comments there saying Williams doesn’t even look arsed, some saying he got himself sent on purpose.

Same old story.

He’s had his big move, made his money, doesn’t have the heart anymore.

Ya, he sucks. But Did you even see that touch from his mid fielder???

Cmon dude. That guy better wine and dine him tonight.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hawkandro on August 23, 2018, 02:14:47 PM
I was generally quite happy when we signed him; came off the back of a decent Euro tournament, and had been steady and calming for Swansea in the last few seasons. It all went wrong quickly didn't it?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on August 23, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
Robinson’s dangerous ball across the box lead to powell’s penalty call.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on August 23, 2018, 05:02:36 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/281759/stoke-wigan-athletic-match-thread?page=26

It was cool to read the word ‘smarmy’.

Robinson did well, Williams shit, what a shock.

Also, Robinson looks like Gareth Gates in the pic

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/ashley-williams-suffers-stoke-nightmare-15062061
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jamokachi on August 23, 2018, 05:08:51 PM
doesn’t have the heart anymore.

Does seem to be the case with him.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 23, 2018, 05:44:37 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-midfielder-joe-williams-join-15062316
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jamokachi on August 23, 2018, 06:56:37 PM
That's a great Bolton kit. Proper classic looking.

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: pjk on August 23, 2018, 07:07:39 PM
Besic has signed for Boro on loan. I don't think he's going to quite make it here, so best all around I suppose. :)



https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1032599144735682560
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: blue slug on August 23, 2018, 07:29:04 PM
I hope all these loans include a clause that they have to sign them at the end of the season
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lazarou on August 23, 2018, 07:43:36 PM
Jose Baxter

Midfielder — to Oldham

free
Conor Grant

Midfielder — to Plymouth

free
Calum Dyson

Forward — to Plymouth

free
Ramiro Funes Mori

Defender — to Villarreal

£4.4m
Wayne Rooney

Forward — to DC United

free
Luke Garbutt

Defender — to Oxford United

loan
Joel Robles

Goalkeeper — Free agent

released
Henry Onyekuru

Forward — to Galatasaray

loan
Shani Tarashaj

Midfielder — to Grasshopper

loan
Davy Klaassen

Midfielder — to Werder Bremen

£12m
Ashley Williams

Defender — to Stoke City

loan
Antonee Robinson

Defender — to Wigan Athletic

loan
Kevin Mirallas

Winger — to Fiorentina

loan
Callum Connolly

Defender — to Wigan Athletic

loan
Nikola Vlasic

Winger — to CSKA Moscow

loan
Cuco Martina

Defender — to Stoke City

loan
Joe Williams

Midfielder — to Bolton

loan
Muhamed Besic

Midfielder — to Middlesbrough

Frightening list of mistakes and miss steps.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: dax78 on August 23, 2018, 08:27:14 PM
Has Vlasic gone to CSKA???? Must of missed that one
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Goaljira on August 23, 2018, 09:02:16 PM
If Bolasie goes does that just leave Sandro to find a home for?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: kramer0 on August 23, 2018, 09:11:09 PM
If Bolasie goes does that just leave Sandro to find a home for?

Pretty much.

Not bad for a window's work. Hopefully, most of the players we've shipped out play well enough to fetch actual fees next summer.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 23, 2018, 09:19:35 PM
If Bolasie goes does that just leave Sandro to find a home for?
He is gonna be staying I reckon
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on August 23, 2018, 09:28:22 PM
Also, what was he thinking adding that blonde streak to his hair?

That's his natural yellow streak showing through. He'll dye it dark again to hide it at some point.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on August 23, 2018, 09:43:44 PM
lots of wages freed up, lots of average players gone, probably a fair few loan fees too.

Gives Silva a nice sized squad to work with now, full of quality for the most part

Presuming Onyekuru will be eligible next season? So that's basically a new signing already for next year

Pickford
Stek
Virginia

Coleman
Kenny

Baines
Digne

Mina
Zouma
Holgate
Keane
Jagielka - can probably afford to sell one of these on in jan?

Gana
Schneiderlin
Davies
Baningime
Dowell
Sigurdsson

Walcott
Bernard
Lookman
Richarlison

Tosun
Niasse
Calvert Lewin

Just really leaves: Browning, pennington, Galloway & Sandro to be sold.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Mick 1995 on August 23, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
Upgrade that front line, bring in one more winger and an upgrade to Cm and it looks like we could be set for a top 6 challenge next year. (Assuming the new guys all bed in and are as good as we hope)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Mac934 on August 23, 2018, 09:57:42 PM
Agreed, front line is weak. Priority in January, unless one of the U23's step up during the season. Whose the likeliest of them to step up if anyone?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 23, 2018, 09:59:33 PM
lots of wages freed up, lots of average players gone, probably a fair few loan fees too.

Gives Silva a nice sized squad to work with now, full of quality for the most part

Presuming Onyekuru will be eligible next season? So that's basically a new signing already for next year

Pickford
Stek
Virginia

Coleman
Kenny

Baines
Digne

Mina
Zouma
Holgate
Keane
Jagielka - can probably afford to sell one of these on in jan?

Gana
Schneiderlin
Davies
Baningime
Dowell
Sigurdsson

Walcott
Bernard
Lookman
Richarlison

Tosun
Niasse
Calvert Lewin

Just really leaves: Browning, pennington, Galloway & Sandro to be sold.

 :McCarthy:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on August 23, 2018, 10:00:16 PM
:McCarthy:
I honestly constantly forget he plays for us
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 23, 2018, 10:02:04 PM
I honestly constantly forget he plays for us

Think you missed Gomes off to to be fair

Still think Dowell will go on loan now or in Jan
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on August 23, 2018, 10:05:20 PM
Think you missed Gomes off to to be fair

Still think Dowell will go on loan now or in Jan
Had a nightmare here ha
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 24, 2018, 03:55:18 AM
Will people stop reminding me about McCarthy.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on August 24, 2018, 04:05:16 AM
Will people stop reminding me about McCarthy.

That picture is dreadful as well. Looks like a Limmy face.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Outworlder47 on August 25, 2018, 12:16:18 AM
Henry Onyekuru called up to the Nigerian side for their AFCON qualifier against Seychelles on 7 September.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on August 25, 2018, 12:33:32 AM
Henry Onyekuru called up to the Nigerian side for their AFCON qualifier against Seychelles on 7 September.
thatll probably help WP issues

Besic on Sky tonight Boro v West Brom on
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on August 25, 2018, 04:37:26 AM
Is Cuco injured? Didn’t make tonight’s squad. Besic got 20 minutes. Booked as standard.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 25, 2018, 04:39:55 AM
Is Cuco injured? Didn’t make tonight’s squad. Besic got 20 minutes. Booked as standard.

thought Martina was at Stoke?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on August 25, 2018, 04:44:27 AM
thought Martina was at Stoke?

Is he? I remember reading that Boro were in for him and that was the last I read before he left.

I hope Stoke have signed Martina and Williams actually. Couldn’t have happened to a more worthy club.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: bluestevie on August 25, 2018, 04:52:17 AM
Is he? I remember reading that Boro were in for him and that was the last I read before he left.

I hope Stoke have signed Martina and Williams actually. Couldn’t have happened to a more worthy club.

Yep played in their shambolic defeat to Wigan on Wednesday
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 25, 2018, 04:52:47 AM
thought Martina was at Stoke?

Yeah he was on their bench when they lost the other day
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: blargins on August 25, 2018, 07:51:36 AM
Didn’t we get rid of Pennington as well?

Looking forward to seeing our Nigerian come to the club next summer. Will mean we can finally release Niasse.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jamokachi on August 25, 2018, 07:59:27 AM
Didn’t we get rid of Pennington as well?

Nah, not yet. Rumours Leeds want him back.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 29, 2018, 01:43:39 AM
Martina and Williams starting for Stoke tonight in what is frankly an abomination of a starting eleven  :Sick:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Outworlder47 on August 29, 2018, 03:13:14 AM
Onyekuru netted the fifth goal in a 6-0 drubbing of Alanyaspor yesterday, in his last action before coming off in the 83rd minute.

Not having seen the matches or even much in the way of highlights, it appears he's played the last two matches on the left side of a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3; the first match he played on the right of midfield in a 4-4-2.

EDIT: Onyekuru goal. Nice first time finish off a rebound. https://youtu.be/IqlFOYyPc1Y?t=235 (https://youtu.be/IqlFOYyPc1Y?t=235)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on August 29, 2018, 03:15:41 AM
The goals knocking about, he appears to be on the left hand side and gets on on a scramble to force it home.

Getting good reports tho.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: blargins on August 29, 2018, 09:03:14 AM
If we finally get him in the country and Lookman goes it sounds like we might have the better end of the deal. Another good goal scoring option is not to be sniffed at.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Outworlder47 on August 31, 2018, 12:05:18 AM
Onyekuru and Galatasaray get a pretty favorable CL draw, about as good as you could ask for coming from Pot 4.

Lokomotiv Moscow, Porto, and Schalke. Would figure they could at least pull a 3rd place finish out of that, with a decent chance of 2nd.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 31, 2018, 01:04:22 AM
Onyekuru and Galatasaray get a pretty favorable CL draw, about as good as you could ask for coming from Pot 4.

Lokomotiv Moscow, Porto, and Schalke. Would figure they could at least pull a 3rd place finish out of that, with a decent chance of 2nd.


It’s an extremely easy draw but I’d say they could finish in any position. Not sure there’s a side you’d say they were comfortably better than or even 1 you’d say they were comfortably worse than
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on August 31, 2018, 01:38:21 AM

It’s an extremely easy draw but I’d say they could finish in any position. Not sure there’s a side you’d say they were comfortably better than or even 1 you’d say they were comfortably worse than

I agree. When it's pretty even - anything can happen - and I'm no expert, but these all look a similar level to me.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Alanvideo on September 01, 2018, 12:06:51 AM
Matty Pennington going to Ipswich on loan ?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 19, 2018, 03:30:40 AM
Oooohhhh Yannick Bolasie

Where we went wrong with him, tried to get him to use his feet and not his head  :snigger:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on September 19, 2018, 04:01:06 AM
How’s the big kevster Kev Mirallas doing?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on September 19, 2018, 04:29:28 AM
How’s the big kevster Kev Mirallas doing?

Hasn't kicked a ball yet.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kevin-mirallas/leistungsdaten/spieler/33639/saison/2018/plus/1#IT1
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on September 19, 2018, 04:50:20 AM
Going to be a big player for Genk next season.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on September 19, 2018, 04:51:08 AM
Hasn't kicked a ball yet.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kevin-mirallas/leistungsdaten/spieler/33639/saison/2018/plus/1#IT1

Nah? Big Kev? Not turning up?

I don’t believe you.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jamokachi on September 19, 2018, 04:52:41 AM
Nah? Big Kev? Not turning up?

I don’t believe you.

Coud have done a job for us on Sunday.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on September 19, 2018, 04:54:31 AM
Coud have done a job for us on Sunday.

Yeah, took me a while to get a bevy at half time to be fair.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: dazfrancis on September 19, 2018, 11:18:50 PM
Coud have done a job for us on Sunday.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/12XMGIWtrHBl5e/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on September 19, 2018, 11:59:58 PM
Vlasic could have
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on September 20, 2018, 12:20:01 AM
Does seem a bit mad we've got a couple of wingers playing CL football this week in Onyekuru and Vlasic.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on September 20, 2018, 12:48:51 AM
We loan players out who play CL football, buy and bring players in on loan who are injured and keep another who doesn't seem interested in playing for us



Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Waltzer on September 20, 2018, 03:54:42 AM
Vlasic scored in injury time tonight to level it up
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on September 20, 2018, 04:03:27 AM
Will the real number 10 please stand up

In time to Nik a point
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 20, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
Vlasic scored in injury time tonight to level it up

He’s shit, found his level.

Oh hang on a minute.....
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Mouse on September 21, 2018, 04:27:37 AM
I really liked Vlasic when he arrived. It seems something went wrong behind the scenes though. None of Unsworth, Allardyce or Silva backed him. Pity, would be nice if he came back and turned it around here.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: plumber on September 21, 2018, 05:08:04 PM
“Cuco has been excellent,” Rowett told the media ahead of the visit of Blackburn. “He’s one of those players who sometimes goes under the radar a little bit because he just gets on with things.

“He does a lot of things well and makes a lot of good decisions. He likes to get forward and has played a part in a lot of the chances we’ve created.

“Cuco has got great composure but the big thing for me is the fact that he does his job how you’d want a full-back to do it. He defends when he needs to and gets forward when the time is right.”

https://www.stokecityfc.com/news/praise-for-cuco

Could still do a job for us.




Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 21, 2018, 05:18:23 PM
Could still do a job for us.

 :badum:
Title: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: kramer0 on September 21, 2018, 05:32:49 PM
He's not a Premier League player. There was stretch last season where our opponents left him unmarked during build-ups and forced us to play down his side because they knew he couldn't do anything with the ball. You can't have players like that in your team if you want to actually be good, even as cover.

If he's doing well enough to earn himself a permanent move away, that's fantastic.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on September 21, 2018, 05:45:51 PM
Meanwhile here’s Williams being gutted that Swansea didn’t score against his current team.

https://twitter.com/carwynd2000/status/1042155352966479872
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cozzie on September 21, 2018, 06:00:11 PM
As crap as the current situation is right now it makes me shudder thinking we could legitimately have Martina and Williams at the back still.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 21, 2018, 06:08:22 PM
Martina was actually OK in his natural position at right back, he was just horrendous at LB.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on September 21, 2018, 06:52:18 PM
Martina was actually OK in his natural position at right back, he was just horrendous at LB.

Seem to remember the opposite being true to be honest
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on September 21, 2018, 06:55:51 PM
He's not even worth talking about.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 21, 2018, 07:10:20 PM
Could still do a job for us.

Yeah I agree.

Plenty of leaves need sweeping up on the carpark at Finch Farm with the wind.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on September 22, 2018, 02:06:38 AM
Assist from Vlasic for CSKA's other goal

Has started very well for them by all accounts and in line to be called up by Croatia

20 years old and cost us £10m - bargain, an understatement

Wanted away because he was ambitious for first team football at Everton and banished for it





Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 22, 2018, 10:16:43 PM
“Cuco has been excellent,” Rowett told the media ahead of the visit of Blackburn. “He’s one of those players who sometimes goes under the radar a little bit because he just gets on with things.

“He does a lot of things well and makes a lot of good decisions. He likes to get forward and has played a part in a lot of the chances we’ve created.

“Cuco has got great composure but the big thing for me is the fact that he does his job how you’d want a full-back to do it. He defends when he needs to and gets forward when the time is right.”

https://www.stokecityfc.com/news/praise-for-cuco

Could still do a job for us.

Doing a grand job today is Cuco, just 3 down at home, surprised with that score that Williams wasn't actually playing....

Rowett will be gone soon because he's clueless
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Danny on September 23, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
Assist from Vlasic for CSKA's other goal

Has started very well for them by all accounts and in line to be called up by Croatia

20 years old and cost us £10m - bargain, an understatement

Wanted away because he was ambitious for first team football at Everton and banished for it







Playing against a team of Championship quality, I think it's obvious he has no future here because he went on loan to CSKA, if we'd wanted him they'd have found him a move to the Championship.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on September 23, 2018, 05:49:22 PM
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/9/20/17883312/motm-middlesbrough-2-0-bolton-wanderers-joe-williams

More good words about Joe Williams.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on September 23, 2018, 07:08:36 PM
Another youngster Koeman promoted to the first team squad



Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on September 29, 2018, 11:25:03 PM
Vlasic, another goal and man of the match in last week's Moscow derby

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Trowel on September 30, 2018, 12:40:12 AM
https://twitter.com/StokeLoudProud/status/1046091816150421505
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on September 30, 2018, 06:47:32 PM
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/9/20/17883312/motm-middlesbrough-2-0-bolton-wanderers-joe-williams

More good words about Joe Williams.

Best player review ever - "For now, Williams like Terry Crews in White Chicks, the clear highlight in a shower of shite."
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on September 30, 2018, 08:22:06 PM
https://twitter.com/StokeLoudProud/status/1046091816150421505

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/282895/ashley-wimmer-williams

“Needs packaging up and sending back to Everton immediately. Don't even bother cutting any holes in the box for him.”
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on October 02, 2018, 02:22:15 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/282895/ashley-wimmer-williams

“Needs packaging up and sending back to Everton immediately. Don't even bother cutting any holes in the box for him.”


Ok then, now THAT's the best player review ever!   lolol
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Waltzer on October 03, 2018, 02:04:09 AM
Vlasic scored within 2  against real Madrid tonight
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Martip on October 03, 2018, 02:25:43 AM
Vlasic scored within 2  against real Madrid tonight
He's obviously decent....not sure why it's not worked out for us yet
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: irishtoffee on October 03, 2018, 02:27:01 AM
Did we sell or loan Besic? He scored for 'boro tonight
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Waltzer on October 03, 2018, 02:28:04 AM
Did we sell or loan Besic? He scored for 'boro tonight
Wanted to sell but he couldn't agree terms so he went out on loan
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: irishtoffee on October 03, 2018, 03:36:54 AM
Bolaise has scored an injury time equaliser for villa
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cozzie on October 03, 2018, 04:15:42 AM
Bolasie, Vlasic, Besic all scoring tonight.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 03, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
Genuine question, has anyone actually watched how Vlasic has been playing? Rather than just "oh he scored twice in the CL" which were a penalty and a gift from a shitty back pass
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on October 03, 2018, 03:20:59 PM
Anyone know what position Vlasic has been playing?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: gizzblue on October 03, 2018, 03:30:34 PM
Anyone know what position Vlasic has been playing?


Actually on the pitch  lolol ...he's better there .

Not a clue really .
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on October 03, 2018, 04:12:52 PM
Anyone know what position Vlasic has been playing?

Centre midfield mostly. Five games out of the eight he's started have been in the middle of the pitch.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on October 03, 2018, 05:10:32 PM
Centre midfield mostly. Five games out of the eight he's started have been in the middle of the pitch.

Oh really?

That is interesting, I always thought he would do better in that area
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hesmenos on October 03, 2018, 06:57:34 PM
I watched the CSKA match last night while listening to the Everton game. It was a hard game to judge Vlasic on, as CSKA didn't really have much of the ball. It looked like he was meant to be playing behind the striker on the left (not as a winger) with Dzagoev playing the same position on the right side. In reality he played most of the match defending in front of the left back. He was actually very good at his defensive duties but it wasn't like there was much space for the Real players to move in. When CSKA managed to attack every move went through him. He was by far their best player (CSKA are not exactly full of stars though) and he could have had a couple of assists if his teammates could shoot. I was very impressed with his hold up play, he is actually very strong on the ball
As for the goal, yes it was from a pass back but he still had to get past Varane and the finish with his left foot was beautiful. He also anticipated the pass as he makes the move before Kroos passes. In fact he did it again in the 2nd half but then got tackled.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on October 03, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Yeah he reads the back pass very early and has good pace and power to make the most of it. Typical finish from him as well.

Shame we didn’t see much of it here and it sounds like he’s pissed off with the club as well which isn’t great.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on October 05, 2018, 12:02:54 AM
CSKA manager hailing Vlasic a leader. Could face England if he makes the Croatia squad


(Digne and Zouma recalled to France squad)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on October 05, 2018, 12:32:24 AM
Wonder if Vlasic has a future here
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on October 05, 2018, 01:57:52 AM
If Silva and Everton can hold their hands up "We were wrong about you", then a possibility



Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2018, 02:32:05 AM
Wonder if Vlasic has a future here

Doubt he’ll want to come back unless he’s guaranteed football, and even then I’m not sure.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hesmenos on October 05, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
Vlasic looks great at CSKA but he is basically surrounded by shit. He'll be first choice there.
If he'd stayed, he would be behind Sigurdsson, Richarlison, Walcott and Bernard. He would be competing for minutes with Dowell and Lookman, which is not a lot.
If he carries on playing well in Russia, I'm sure Silva will evaluate him at the end of the season and see if he can fit him into his squad.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on October 06, 2018, 07:57:14 PM
Vlasic, player of the month at CSKA; Modric described him as very good in a very good young team
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: howard1334 on October 06, 2018, 11:33:52 PM
Vlasic looks great at CSKA but he is basically surrounded by shit. He'll be first choice there.
If he'd stayed, he would be behind Sigurdsson, Richarlison, Walcott and Bernard. He would be competing for minutes with Dowell and Lookman, which is not a lot.
If he carries on playing well in Russia, I'm sure Silva will evaluate him at the end of the season and see if he can fit him into his squad.

Not if he can play as a CM in the mold of, say, Dembele.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on October 23, 2018, 12:15:54 AM
Another goal for Vlasic

The CSKA centre forward, Chalov, also scored again - looks a good number 9
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on October 29, 2018, 11:42:58 PM
Vlasic scores again
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bluebridge on October 30, 2018, 02:04:53 PM
There's been a lot of shit play well in that league, Niasse, Billy and Jo,plus countless others who have flopped in the Premier league.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 30, 2018, 04:15:28 PM
i dont think he ever got to play off the striker for us.. we always played him on the right wing, and occasionally as a cm. (which he doesnt have the build or prowess)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2018, 06:28:24 PM
i dont think he ever got to play off the striker for us.. we always played him on the right wing, and occasionally as a cm. (which he doesnt have the build or prowess)

He's played the majority of his games for CSKA Moscow in central midfield.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 30, 2018, 06:37:18 PM
He's played the majority of his games for CSKA Moscow in central midfield.

I guess CM in Russia is different than CM in the premierleague.

maybe he just likes the cold and Vodka..
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: MmmblueBernard on October 30, 2018, 06:47:44 PM
I guess CM in Russia is different than CM in the premierleague.

maybe he just likes the cold and Vodka..

And Salisbury cathedral.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: kramer0 on October 30, 2018, 09:11:14 PM
Tactically, we were a mess last season.

I wouldn't read too much into what positions Vlasic can or can't play based on sporadic appearances in that team.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on October 30, 2018, 09:33:36 PM
Tactically, we were a mess last season.

I wouldn't read too much into what positions Vlasic can or can't play based on sporadic appearances in that team.

Nor based on his appearances in that league imo.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: di_guyo on October 30, 2018, 10:22:30 PM
He's played the majority of his games for CSKA Moscow in central midfield.

What's your source for this? Transfermarkt has him down playing AM - I've always found that to be fairly reliable in that regard.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hesmenos on October 31, 2018, 03:21:30 AM
I've only seen the games against Real and Roma in the CL. In both of these he was playing as an AM.
CSKA play with a strange 3-4-2-1 system where the left and right of the 4 play as wing backs. The 2 behind the striker play central (almost like 2 no.10s) This is where Vlasic plays. To the left when Dzagoev plays, to the right when he doesn't. When defending they do not track the full backs but stay central. When attacking they have a free role
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on October 31, 2018, 02:55:01 PM
What's your source for this? Transfermarkt has him down playing AM - I've always found that to be fairly reliable in that regard.

I'll dig the website out when I get time. It basically highlighted that he plays central midfield in the Russian League and further forward in Europe. Of course it might be bollocks and I'm not that arsed to cross reference it but thought it was interesting at the time.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on October 31, 2018, 03:36:57 PM
Allegedly told Silva: "I am the best midfielder at the club"

Love a bit of confidence!



Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on October 31, 2018, 05:53:41 PM
Does my head in that lad.

Hope CSKA buy him and we never hear from him again.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on October 31, 2018, 06:27:29 PM
Don’t think he’s a bad egg, just doesn’t want to sit on the bench.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 31, 2018, 11:58:52 PM
would love to see him back.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on November 01, 2018, 01:40:38 PM
I guess CM in Russia is different than CM in the premierleague.

maybe he just likes the cold and Vodka..

In the last thread I read - you accused someone of being a 'Brexiter' because of their 'use of language'

I know you're a decent lad so I don't want to turn this into anything bigger than it it already is, but sometimes, the shadow we fear is the one we cast.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on November 01, 2018, 01:42:09 PM
would love to see him back.

Me too. Can see him playing for one of the top, top teams one day.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Macca77 on November 01, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
Come on lads, I'd look good in the Russian league, Niasse was a superstar there.

Never did get the hype about him, he did nothing to justify it. If he comes back and proves himself then great, if not so be it.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on November 01, 2018, 02:49:35 PM
I don’t know about wanting him back but if he carries on like this we’ll probably get a decent fee for him, to reinvest in the striker we’ve been crying out for so his good form works for us either way.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 01, 2018, 07:09:25 PM
In the last thread I read - you accused someone of being a 'Brexiter' because of their 'use of language'

I know you're a decent lad so I don't want to turn this into anything bigger than it it already is, but sometimes, the shadow we fear is the one we cast.

i've seen lots of Brexiters use the same sort of language, instead of conveying what they are saying with normal language..

i hardly ever swear, especially to players that have played for the club i love.

your shadow quote has me lost tho.. lol are you saying that im pro brexit? or that i use vulgar language for no reason? :p
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on November 01, 2018, 10:43:52 PM
i've seen lots of Brexiters use the same sort of language, instead of conveying what they are saying with normal language..

i hardly ever swear, especially to players that have played for the club i love.

your shadow quote has me lost tho.. lol are you saying that im pro brexit? or that i use vulgar language for no reason? :p

You're a bit of a embarrassment on this one sunshine. Turn it in.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 01, 2018, 11:33:43 PM
Me too. Can see him playing for one of the top, top teams one day.

Not sure what anyone has seen to suggest he could play for 1 of the top European sides
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on November 02, 2018, 09:39:42 PM
i've seen lots of Brexiters use the same sort of language, instead of conveying what they are saying with normal language..

i hardly ever swear, especially to players that have played for the club i love.

your shadow quote has me lost tho.. lol are you saying that im pro brexit? or that i use vulgar language for no reason? :p

You spoke about Brexiters and then you reduced the Russian league to two very stereotypical things - cold and vodka. I just found that odd.

Sometimes people see slights that are not there because they are looking for them.
Sometimes people see the worst in things because they are looking for them.
Sometimes the shadow you fear is the one cast.

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on November 02, 2018, 11:06:10 PM
Me too. Can see him playing for one of the top, top teams one day.
Based on what?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on November 02, 2018, 11:45:34 PM
The same basis that some people think he won't
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 02, 2018, 11:58:16 PM
The same basis that some people think he won't

What?!?! That makes even less sense than the original prediction
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on November 03, 2018, 12:14:06 AM
Let’s remember silva bombed him out along with Mirallas, Besic and Martina.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on November 03, 2018, 01:34:00 AM
Prediction based on watching him play


Silva bombed him out because he demanded first team football - or else.......................

So it was else!
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 03, 2018, 01:43:33 AM
Watching galatasarsy on me bike here, onyekeru is fucking rapid
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Brownie on November 03, 2018, 02:25:31 AM
Is Joe Williams playing for Bolton tonight?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 03, 2018, 02:30:05 AM
Is Joe Williams playing for Bolton tonight?
Yeah 21
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on November 03, 2018, 02:42:49 AM
Watching galatasarsy on me bike here, onyekeru is fucking rapid

Thought he was injured again.

Not a great record in Turkey so far considering Kone is one of the top scorers and adebayor who hasn’t played serious football since about 2008 got aba 20 goals last year - HOWEVER, he’s been injured a lot and he is absolutely rapid.

Personally think Richarlison, Bernard, Lookman, Henry into 1 first team position does not go, so I think Henry might get sold shortly.

There are rumours he was part of a weird money spin through an agent, but he does look a decent player.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 03, 2018, 03:25:26 AM
Thought he was injured again.

Not a great record in Turkey so far considering Kone is one of the top scorers and adebayor who hasn't played serious football since about 2008 got aba 20 goals last year - HOWEVER, he's been injured a lot and he is absolutely rapid.

Personally think Richarlison, Bernard, Lookman, Henry into 1 first team position does not go, so I think Henry might get sold shortly.

There are rumours he was part of a weird money spin through an agent, but he does look a decent player.
He played out wide tbf to him, he is just super super quick
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on November 05, 2018, 01:30:22 PM
Based on what?

Based on the fact that I've seen more than one game where he's been the best player on the pitch. He's looked a man amongst boys at times when he was only 18/19/20 himself.

I can't give you the stats for it - don't think they exist - but he's come across at times as a proper winner - ruthless and effective. The sort of player the shite usually sign. (fuck me, that hurt)

Flashes of strength and quality far beyond his years and he has plenty of time to get better.

Just my opinion. 
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 05, 2018, 06:54:44 PM
You spoke about Brexiters and then you reduced the Russian league to two very stereotypical things - cold and vodka. I just found that odd.

Sometimes people see slights that are not there because they are looking for them.
Sometimes people see the worst in things because they are looking for them.
Sometimes the shadow you fear is the one cast.

i was being sarcastic in regards to cold and Vodka. I shoulda added russian bots, and hacking democratic elections.. my bad :P

as most of you know. i dont go for the russian bots and hacking bs.  let alone russia are leading the fight to overthrow democratic values with fake news.. i guess if i wrote that then it would have been more obvious i was being sarcastic.

anyway i digress and apologies for going off topic.

 :bonk:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on November 13, 2018, 12:30:51 AM
Vlasic has made more key passes than any other player under 21 in the Champions League this season

Stood out against Roma the other night and against Zenit at the weekend

Chalov looks a decent centre forward
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on November 13, 2018, 02:03:18 PM
Should get a good price for him then
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: di_guyo on November 13, 2018, 02:06:15 PM
Should get a good price for him then

That's what I'm thinking...Don't see him being good enough, but as long as we get a decent fee then fine with that
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on November 13, 2018, 11:54:32 PM
Good price - we should get

Good enough - he is
Title: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bluedylan on November 21, 2018, 10:58:38 PM
https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/exclusive-inter-and-milan-set-to-fight-for-everton-midfielder-44780
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on November 21, 2018, 11:18:46 PM
https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/exclusive-inter-and-milan-set-to-fight-for-everton-midfielder-44780
Sound, would be hoping for more than 12 million euro though, his price is hopefully rising now.

Would be nice to move on Niasse, Vlasic and Schneiderlin in the next window - could possibly get 30 mill+ for the 3 in this market, and get a couple in
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bluedylan on November 21, 2018, 11:24:30 PM
Sound, would be hoping for more than 12 million euro though, his price is hopefully rising now.

Would be nice to move on Niasse, Vlasic and Schneiderlin in the next window - could possibly get 30 mill+ for the 3 in this market, and get a couple in

Or depending on his development, maybe take him back and have him as the proper backup to Gylfi. The club is a lot more settled than when Vlasic was last here.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2018, 11:26:59 PM
I hope Vlasic stays to be honest.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on November 21, 2018, 11:41:48 PM
Or depending on his development, maybe take him back and have him as the proper backup to Gylfi. The club is a lot more settled than when Vlasic was last here.
Dunno if Silva likes him or not, his attitude might be in question
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bluedylan on November 21, 2018, 11:43:50 PM
Dunno if Silva likes him or not, his attitude might be in question

Lookman's seemed to be worse, and he's got him back on board.

I imagine Big Marcel will be keeping a beady eye on events at CSKA, either way, whether it's to reincorporate him or to sell him for good value next year.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on November 21, 2018, 11:53:05 PM
Important to remember that silva bombed him out with Martina and Besic.

Don’t think he has any future here.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on November 22, 2018, 12:01:20 AM
Lookman's seemed to be worse, and he's got him back on board.

I imagine Big Marcel will be keeping a beady eye on events at CSKA, either way, whether it's to reincorporate him or to sell him for good value next year.
Silva said from day 1 lookman was in his plans though and seems to have him on board now, he's never said anything about vlasic, some of the weird interviews vlasic has done since, wont have helped his case at Everton - I think he'll leave in the summer
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on November 22, 2018, 12:02:34 AM
Important to remember that silva bombed him out with Martina and Besic.

Don’t think he has any future here.
mad to think martina, besic, bolasie and mirallas will still report for pre season training next summer ha

(cant remember if we sold or loaned out besic)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 24, 2018, 07:13:39 AM
mad to think martina, besic, bolasie and mirallas will still report for pre season training next summer ha

(cant remember if we sold or loaned out besic)
I think Martinas contract is up. He only signed a 2 year deal with us i believe.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on November 24, 2018, 01:35:13 PM
I think Martinas contract is up. He only signed a 2 year deal with us i believe.

It was a three contract. Hopefully we can get a couple of quid for him in the summer.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on November 24, 2018, 04:44:40 PM
It was a three contract. Hopefully we can get a couple of quid for him in the summer.

Quite literally
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 28, 2018, 01:39:24 AM
Vlasic with a PK goal for CSKA in their Champions League match against Plzen. Plzen may have won it late, though, which would take the two sides level on points third in the group. CSKA still have the goal differential advantage, but have their last group match away to Real Madrid, while Plzen will host Roma.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 28, 2018, 03:41:18 AM
Vlasic with a PK goal for CSKA in their Champions League match against Plzen. Plzen may have won it late, though, which would take the two sides level on points third in the group. CSKA still have the goal differential advantage, but have their last group match away to Real Madrid, while Plzen will host Roma.

Shame it goes to head to head first rather than GD.... CSKA will be completely out of Europe barring a shock result
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 28, 2018, 03:44:23 AM
It was a three contract. Hopefully we can get a couple of quid for him in the summer.
Grim.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Martip on December 02, 2018, 02:33:12 AM
How's Henry what ever his name getting on.....I 've not seen anything off him this year but keep reading the bigger boys are after him.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on December 04, 2018, 11:40:59 PM
Vlasic named player of the month for third time in a row by CSKA fans
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Goaljira on December 05, 2018, 03:55:52 AM
Vlasic named player of the month for third time in a row by CSKA fans

Russian Player of the Year award you say?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: velimski on December 05, 2018, 03:57:39 AM
Russian Player of the Year award you say?

 :Niasse:

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on December 05, 2018, 04:41:42 AM
It was a three contract. Hopefully we can get a couple of quid for him in the summer.

A 3 year-contract for a poor player that Koeman signed twice, and that no one else wanted, is surely proof if it were needed, that it was a dodgy, Allardyce style deal.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on December 05, 2018, 04:55:53 AM
A 3 year-contract for a poor player that Koeman signed twice, and that no one else wanted, is surely proof if it were needed, that it was a dodgy, Allardyce style deal.

Three years is short compared to the usual 4-5 year deals we give out. I think he was just a cheap option as stand in while Coleman was out injured, nothing more.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on December 05, 2018, 05:04:40 AM
Three years is short compared to the usual 4-5 year deals we give out. I think he was just a cheap option as stand in while Coleman was out injured, nothing more.

I’m sure he would’ve accepted less
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on December 05, 2018, 05:21:16 AM
I’m sure he would’ve accepted less

Possibly, I don't really see the issue to be honest. He got a three year deal, probably on pretty low wages and three years gives us half a chance to recoup some money on him. If not, we'll probably just loan him out again next season and he can ride off into the sunset after that.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on December 05, 2018, 07:28:37 AM
Possibly, I don't really see the issue to be honest. He got a three year deal, probably on pretty low wages and three years gives us half a chance to recoup some money on him. If not, we'll probably just loan him out again next season and he can ride off into the sunset after that.

Wouldn’t imagine it’s that low considering the other contracts we were throwing around at the time.

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on December 05, 2018, 05:28:12 PM
Dowell linked with loan to Rangers in January
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: pjk on December 05, 2018, 06:33:53 PM
Dowell linked with loan to Rangers in January



You never know, Gerrard, could be the making of him. Despite all the hatred for him, he was still a fantastic midfielder. The ideal English type player for Gerrard to advise and get him more clued up.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: kramer0 on December 05, 2018, 06:53:07 PM
Nah.

Fuck Gerrard.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: pjk on December 05, 2018, 07:08:33 PM
Nah.

Fuck Gerrard.



After due consideration by the clubs coaching staff, choices of loan clubs are limited to the players ability. I think Gerrard would improve him, personally. The players destination when going out on loan, is pretty much a lottery as to whether it will improve him as a player. I don't like Gerard either, but that shouldn't stand in the way of his progress, and hopefully, his improved ability.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on December 05, 2018, 08:16:16 PM
Gerrard might, but that league won’t.

Championship or maybe Holland where you can just do whatever you want in attack and express yourself.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: kramer0 on December 05, 2018, 09:28:28 PM
After due consideration by the clubs coaching staff, choices of loan clubs are limited to the players ability. I think Gerrard would improve him, personally. The players destination when going out on loan, is pretty much a lottery as to whether it will improve him as a player. I don't like Gerard either, but that shouldn't stand in the way of his progress, and hopefully, his improved ability.

Dowell was a good Championship player last season and the standard of the Championship is much higher than that of the Scottish Premiership.

He'll have better offers.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on December 05, 2018, 09:32:07 PM
Dowell was a good Championship player last season and the standard of the Championship is much higher than that of the Scottish Premiership.

He'll have better offers.

I'm not so sure he will, partway through a season. Playing in front of a full house every other week and being expected to perform by a manager with high standards might be the best we can hope for in January. Granted the standard won't be high but it's regular football, which he's not getting at the moment. It won't be a bad backstop if no-one else of note comes in for him.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on December 09, 2018, 03:07:25 PM
Another goal for Vlasic

Russia player of the year award? Ask Modric
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: djws1788 on December 09, 2018, 07:27:58 PM
Mirallas just scored in the final minute to rescue a point for Fiorentina at 3-3
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on December 09, 2018, 07:43:38 PM
Onyekuru not going well anymore?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on December 09, 2018, 09:03:41 PM
Mirallas just scored in the final minute to rescue a point for Fiorentina at 3-3

Looks like we'll be getting him back. Not sure if he's been injured on and off but he certainly doesn't seem to have made an impact. He''s had more bookings than goals and assists combined and looks like he's been used mainly as a sub.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on December 09, 2018, 09:11:10 PM
Looks like we'll be getting him back. Not sure if he's been injured on and off but he certainly doesn't seem to have made an impact. He''s had more bookings than goals and assists combined and looks like he's been used mainly as a sub.

Could be a big player for us next season
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 09, 2018, 09:11:24 PM
Looks like we'll be getting him back. Not sure if he's been injured on and off but he certainly doesn't seem to have made an impact. He''s had more bookings than goals and assists combined and looks like he's been used mainly as a sub.
Last year isn't he? Won't see him again surely
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on December 09, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
Last year isn't he? Won't see him again surely

Could be, hopefully anyway. Thought he had a year left.

Edit. June 2020 he's contracted until.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 09, 2018, 10:19:58 PM
Could be, hopefully anyway. Thought he had a year left.

Edit. June 2020 he's contracted until.
Ah fuck
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Juanito on December 13, 2018, 01:15:07 AM
Vlasic having a good game at the Bernanbeu. Middle of the park as an 8 or a 10, strong and loads of energy. Could eventually be an alternative to Sigurdsson.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: kramer0 on December 13, 2018, 01:21:53 AM
Vlasic having a good game at the Bernanbeu. Middle of the park as an 8 or a 10, strong and loads of energy. Could eventually be an alternative to Sigurdsson.

I would very much like to see him get that opportunity, especially since the side isn't a total clusterfuck anymore.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on December 13, 2018, 03:39:53 AM
In the words of Modric: Vlasic, very good young player

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on December 13, 2018, 02:09:33 PM
Like the idea of vlasic in the side, but if you think of the level Lookman was hitting in Germany, and he’s still struggling a little bit to make his mark in the prem, there’s absolutely no guarantees of impact like.

Think he fuckin hates the blues as well, vlasic.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Waltzer on December 13, 2018, 02:57:10 PM
Vlasic having a good game at the Bernanbeu. Middle of the park as an 8 or a 10, strong and loads of energy. Could eventually be an alternative to Sigurdsson.
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Vlasic having a good game at the Bernanbeu. Middle of the park as an 8 or a 10, strong and loads of energy. Could eventually be an alternative to Sigurdsson.

Personally like to see him alongside Gomes in the middle next year with Sig just in front
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on December 13, 2018, 03:05:12 PM
Sorry what?

Gomes Vlasic
     Siggy

As a middle 3?  :Sick:

We'll need a world class striker and score 4 every game to offset the shit ton we'll concede
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hesmenos on December 13, 2018, 03:20:00 PM
What Cereal Killer said but without the vomit.
Don't think you can fit Vlasic and Sig in the same team unless you play with no wingers like CSKA. Its like a 5-2-2-1 with the full backs providing the only width.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Waltzer on December 13, 2018, 03:28:09 PM
What Cereal Killer said but without the vomit.
Don't think you can fit Vlasic and Sig in the same team unless you play with no wingers like CSKA. Its like a 5-2-2-1 with the full backs providing the only width.

Maybe it would be a different formation, I just think the better we get on the ball the less we'll be needing players like Gueye, who despite all the good tackling and running he does offers less than any other player on the pitch going forward. Id rather have players on the pitch that can play football. Gomes could easily sit in front of the back 4 if we wanted a defensively minded player, similar to what Dembele did for Spurs. Gueye will always have a part to play against the teams we wont dominate, but against Newcastle especially you could see his limitations massively and we really didnt need him on the pitch.
And playing an attacking team against inferior sides wont mean they'll score 4 or 5, they'll still have the same approach, all itll mean is we'll have better players on the pitch to open them up.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on December 14, 2018, 12:15:08 AM
He's playing well enough to warrant another look at him. Especially when we have other players in midfield who are past their peak.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: kramer0 on December 14, 2018, 12:47:12 AM
Think he fuckin hates the blues as well, vlasic.

I just think he prefers to play every week. He seems to have no shortage of belief in himself either.

I like it but I can see how it might rub people the wrong way.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on December 14, 2018, 01:51:49 PM
Like the idea of vlasic in the side, but if you think of the level Lookman was hitting in Germany, and he’s still struggling a little bit to make his mark in the prem, there’s absolutely no guarantees of impact like.

Think he fuckin hates the blues as well, vlasic.

That's two extremely promising youngsters we seem to have alienated.

I was hoping by now that Silva and Brands would have brought them back into the fold, but neither of them seem to be 'troo bloos' just now and although Lookman is now getting some time on the pitch there is still the sense that he is not 100% happy yet.

Hoping we can still turn these kids around - but if not - we definitely need to learn how to handle situations like this better for the future (if only to stop other youngsters from being put off from signing for us).
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on December 14, 2018, 03:22:56 PM
Lookmans back playing games and seems fine to me. Playing alright and looks a good player but hasn’t quite landed for him. Still very happy to see him on the pitch like.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 14, 2018, 04:08:43 PM
Lookmans back playing games and seems fine to me. Playing alright and looks a good player but hasn’t quite landed for him. Still very happy to see him on the pitch like.
I have heard a deal will be announced for lookman before the end of the month, I cant see this being correct mind
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on December 14, 2018, 04:15:04 PM
I have heard a deal will be announced for lookman before the end of the month, I cant see this being correct mind

What going somewhere else? RBL?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: arteta4spain on December 14, 2018, 04:17:39 PM
I have heard a deal will be announced for lookman before the end of the month, I cant see this being correct mind
As in a new deal with us I take it?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 14, 2018, 04:23:43 PM
As in a new deal with us I take it?
No, to leave
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on December 14, 2018, 04:38:00 PM
Can’t be arsed with him.

Burnt a lot of bridges in the summer with me.

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Waltzer on December 14, 2018, 04:46:44 PM
Can’t be arsed with him.

Burnt a lot of bridges in the summer with me.



I get what you're saying, but you need to look at it from his perspective too and the club didn't particularly treat him great either and didnt give him the opportunity he probably deserved. He did go about it the wrong way in the summer and hopefully he'll learn from that, but life's too short to look back
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 14, 2018, 04:57:32 PM
What going somewhere else? RBL?
No Idea mate, just a rumour, it wouldn't surprise me him leaving tho
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Escla on December 14, 2018, 05:00:37 PM
Has probably been asked elsewhere but does anybody have a clear understanding of what’s going on with Henry Onyekuru ?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bluenose 91 on December 14, 2018, 07:37:19 PM
I'd be surprised if he went so soon after all the effort to keep him in the summer.

He's featuring in some capacity in pretty much every game.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jamokachi on December 15, 2018, 05:40:25 AM
Lookman is getting plenty of game time to indicate he's in the manager's plans. If he was on his way out he'd have been bombed out of the squad, Schneiderlin style.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Outworlder47 on December 15, 2018, 05:55:22 AM
Lookman is getting plenty of game time to indicate he's in the manager's plans. If he was on his way out he'd have been bombed out of the squad, Schneiderlin style.
Alternatively, you could argue that he's one of between 2-4 wide players at the club (depending on how you view Bernard and Richarlison long term). With Walcott not in the greatest form and Bernard not showing consistency either, it could be a bit of just trying something different to see if you can catch some luck.

I don't believe that, mind, though I do think that Silva and Brands may look to bring in another winger in the winter window. Perhaps Lozano from PSV now that they're completely out of Europe?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on December 15, 2018, 08:43:23 PM
Settles the lookman question imo.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Martip on December 16, 2018, 02:03:11 AM
We 'll regret letting him go imo
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on December 16, 2018, 08:45:12 PM
Mirallas scores again :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on December 16, 2018, 09:44:49 PM
Mirallas scores again :whistle:

You need to use the word "again" very loosely, it's his first of the season. :)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on December 16, 2018, 09:46:36 PM
You need to use the word "again" very loosely, it's his first of the season. :)

Scored last week I think
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on December 16, 2018, 09:48:03 PM
Scored last week I think

Aye, could be right. We best get him back in January.  :)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on December 16, 2018, 09:50:12 PM
Aye, could be right. We best get him back in January.  :)

Not being funny but he’s score more Serie A goals this season than our entire team combined
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheTone on December 19, 2018, 04:02:17 PM
not going too well for Besic

Boro fans in a fume over his latest display against the mighty Burton Albion
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 22, 2019, 02:31:57 PM
Bolasie returning kinda ruins this, but still a fine team that could hold its own in League One.....


Holgate Williams Penn Martina
                 
Mirallas  Vlasic Besic Bolasie

            Sandro Niasse

Garbutt
Dowell
Tarashaj

 :Sick:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Mac934 on January 22, 2019, 02:45:19 PM
Bolasie returning kinda ruins this, but still a fine team that could hold its own in League One.....


Holgate Williams Penn Martina
                 
Mirallas  Vlasic Besic

            Onyekuru Sandro Niasse

Garbutt
Dowell
Tarashaj

 :Sick:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on January 23, 2019, 06:03:26 PM
Galatasaray pushing for permanent deal with Onyekuru


Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 23, 2019, 06:30:38 PM
Galatasaray pushing for permanent deal with Onyekuru



How much?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on January 23, 2019, 06:33:51 PM
Galatasaray pushing for permanent deal with Onyekuru




I wonder if we can interest them in another unpredictable winger to go on the opposite flank.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on January 23, 2019, 07:03:40 PM
How much? Don't know, negotiations going on

We paid £7m, so I would guess around £10m 
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on January 23, 2019, 07:05:14 PM
He does seem like the sort of signing to never play for us
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Ross on January 23, 2019, 07:08:01 PM
If there’s any interest in him surely we’d sell considering we’ve already got at least 4 left wingers in the squad at present and it’s his primary position.

Honestly when you think of the mess this squads in it’s pretty hard to fathom.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bluedylan on January 23, 2019, 07:10:22 PM
If he's not going to play for us because his position is overstocked (which would be a shame), I'd prefer to keep him, loan him out to a higher profile club/league (maybe Bundesliga) next season, and get more money for him next year. Seems like a talented lad.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: markB on January 23, 2019, 07:27:28 PM
If there’s any interest in him surely we’d sell considering we’ve already got at least 4 left wingers in the squad at present and it’s his primary position.

Honestly when you think of the mess this squads in it’s pretty hard to fathom.

that might be were he play last season but this season he is playing both sides and up top in games
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/henry-onyekuru/leistungsdaten/spieler/380415

2 of the games I watched him play in he was on the right and bye fuck he is quick (with control that was not there last year) might just be as he is right footed after all that he plays better on the right
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Escla on January 23, 2019, 07:37:00 PM
Thought he was banging them in for Galatasaray ? Surely we could bribe the Nigerian F.A. to give him a couple of full International games so that he can get his work permit.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Ross on January 23, 2019, 07:54:46 PM
that might be were he play last season but this season he is playing both sides and up top in games
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/henry-onyekuru/leistungsdaten/spieler/380415

2 of the games I watched him play in he was on the right and bye fuck he is quick (with control that was not there last year) might just be as he is right footed after all that he plays better on the right

I was going off WhoScored having never seen him play, but looking at that all his goals come from the left which again leads me to believe he’s predominantly a wide left player and we’ve got to many of them as it is. We’re extremely lob sided and that’s before you take into account that two of our best attacking players are actually left backs it’s hard to see us turning a decent offer down.

Also think the cash would be pretty handy now. Silva doesn’t seem particularly happy that he’s been told there’s no incoming players this window but you’d imagine a sale or two would alter that and we’re not exactly fighting them off with a shitty stick for anyone else.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: markB on January 24, 2019, 02:55:32 AM
I was going off WhoScored having never seen him play, but looking at that all his goals come from the left which again leads me to believe he’s predominantly a wide left player and we’ve got to many of them as it is. We’re extremely lob sided and that’s before you take into account that two of our best attacking players are actually left backs it’s hard to see us turning a decent offer down.

Also think the cash would be pretty handy now. Silva doesn’t seem particularly happy that he’s been told there’s no incoming players this window but you’d imagine a sale or two would alter that and we’re not exactly fighting them off with a shitty stick for anyone else.

that was more to show you he is playing both sides the same amount of times the goals bit of off its just mid and up top

what would you get for him now £10/15m ?
the AFCON is this year after that he, all being well will get a work permit how much you think that we can get for him then (if we were to sell)

I worried last year when he did not go to the world cup and all that crap was going on with him just how he would cope with it , but he has come on in a big way looks a far better player this year (see what game time and do for young players )
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Ross on January 24, 2019, 04:27:36 PM
that was more to show you he is playing both sides the same amount of times the goals bit of off its just mid and up top

what would you get for him now £10/15m ?
the AFCON is this year after that he, all being well will get a work permit how much you think that we can get for him then (if we were to sell)

I worried last year when he did not go to the world cup and all that crap was going on with him just how he would cope with it , but he has come on in a big way looks a far better player this year (see what game time and do for young players )

This season he’s been moved around a lot, maybe due to injuries at Galatasaray? But he’s not nearly been as effective anywhere else as he is when he plays from the left. It’s there in black and white in his stats on those pages. From the left this season he’s got 7 goals from 8 games, none from his 8 starts on the right and two when played centrally.

Over the last 3 seasons he’s played 60 times from the left scoring 34 goals with 8 assists, his record during the 22 games played either from the right or centrally is 7 goals and 2 assists. He's clearly more suited and natural to the left attacking side of the pitch and sadly like I said we’ve got an abundance of talent already in that position with stronger credentials.

Whether we move him on now or the summer is a different matter but I’ll be surprised if we ever see him in an Everton shirt.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on January 24, 2019, 05:22:31 PM
He looks a talent anyway. It would be silly to sell him for what would be a fairly average fee by today’s standards. It would smack of short termism and Brands has clearly stated his job is a long term project. I’m sure it’s just paper talk.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: markB on January 24, 2019, 06:42:55 PM
This season he’s been moved around a lot, maybe due to injuries at Galatasaray? But he’s not nearly been as effective anywhere else as he is when he plays from the left. It’s there in black and white in his stats on those pages. From the left this season he’s got 7 goals from 8 games, none from his 8 starts on the right and two when played centrally.

Over the last 3 seasons he’s played 60 times from the left scoring 34 goals with 8 assists, his record during the 22 games played either from the right or centrally is 7 goals and 2 assists. He's clearly more suited and natural to the left attacking side of the pitch and sadly like I said we’ve got an abundance of talent already in that position with stronger credentials.

Whether we move him on now or the summer is a different matter but I’ll be surprised if we ever see him in an Everton shirt.

I told you the goals bit is not right but here you look for yourself   
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 24, 2019, 06:53:22 PM
Terrible “best bits” that.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on January 30, 2019, 11:54:39 PM
Mirallas with a couple of assists against Roma in the first half here.

https://twitter.com/heluveitie/status/1090667864066011142
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Martip on January 31, 2019, 12:12:40 AM
Cardiff fans seemingly impressed with Niasse  :)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: gizzblue on January 31, 2019, 05:35:19 AM
Cardiff fans seemingly impressed with Niasse  :)


Get him bought Cardiff . :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on February 01, 2019, 05:22:42 AM
Great that we’ve loaned out Connolly, Evans and Beni.

The next lot in line I guess, are they all Davies year group?

Would be interested in knowing how Joe Williams has been getting on. Silva apparently rates him and for some reason so does Kevin Campbell.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on February 01, 2019, 01:37:02 PM
We seem to loan players to shite local clubs a lot
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on February 01, 2019, 10:53:43 PM
If there’s any interest in him surely we’d sell considering we’ve already got at least 4 left wingers in the squad at present and it’s his primary position.

Honestly when you think of the mess this squads in it’s pretty hard to fathom.

The like was for the state of the squad comment. We're still working out who is first choice and who is good quality competition.

Don't think we'd get rid without having him spend some time with us though, to have a proper look at him.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Ross on February 02, 2019, 12:06:05 AM
The like was for the state of the squad comment. We're still working out who is first choice and who is good quality competition.

Don't think we'd get rid without having him spend some time with us though, to have a proper look at him.

Well we’ll see obviously, but like I’ve said if a tidy profit can be easily made on him while we’ve got an abundance of other left sided players I think they’d probably accept the time just isn’t right for this squad. That may change in the summer obviously if we sell one or two of the others but I doubt we will be. Then of course there’s the added complication of a work permit to consider as well.

Brands has got a lot of work to do to rebalance this squad and there’s going to need to be short term sacrifices  at times. You simply just can’t allocate 4 places of a 25 man squad to predominantly left sided players who excel there but are much less effective elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hesmenos on February 12, 2019, 03:09:14 AM
https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=346394 (https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=346394)
Cuco Martina named in the Eredivisie team of the week on his debut, playing as a center back.
Lets recall him for the Cardiff game.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Goaljira on February 12, 2019, 03:28:02 AM
https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=346394 (https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=346394)
Cuco Martina named in the Eredivisie team of the week on his debut, playing as a center back.
Lets recall him for the Cardiff game.  :thumbsup:


Says everything about the eredivisie that.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: irishtoffee on February 13, 2019, 03:13:16 AM
Is Brendan Galloway still at the club or on loan or sold?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on February 13, 2019, 03:22:58 AM
Is Brendan Galloway still at the club or on loan or sold?

Still at the club and not on loan as far as I know.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hesmenos on February 13, 2019, 06:00:44 PM
He's been injured all season. Probably no one wanted to risk getting him in on a loan.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on February 13, 2019, 06:35:53 PM
See Luke Garbutt has managed a whole three league appearances for league one Oxford United.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2019, 08:35:10 PM
See Luke Garbutt has managed a whole three league appearances for league one Oxford United.

We still paying him almost 30k a week? He’s thrown his career away now

Made a few million when he could have potentially made 50
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 13, 2019, 08:57:14 PM
We still paying him almost 30k a week? He’s thrown his career away now

Made a few million when he could have potentially made 50

What are you on about? And how is it any way his fault if he's ended up not being good enough?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on February 13, 2019, 09:22:03 PM
Attitude may have been a problem with garbutt, wonder if he wanted it enough

Saw him away at Wolfsburg, against the likes of perisic and de bruyne and he was really good
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2019, 09:47:51 PM
Callum Connolly (hope am spelling that right) won the match for Bolton yesterday (and me 100 Ameri-quid)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2019, 10:03:04 PM
What are you on about? And how is it any way his fault if he's ended up not being good enough?

It seems to be widely reported on here that he had an attitude problem and figured he made it when we made him a millionaire. That’s what I’m on about and that’s why he might not be good enough
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hesmenos on February 13, 2019, 10:23:36 PM
Callum Connolly (hope am spelling that right) won the match for Bolton yesterday (and me 100 Ameri-quid)
What's his best position? I always thought he was a full back. But he seems to be playing mainly as a DM now.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2019, 10:29:44 PM
What's his best position? I always thought he was a full back. But he seems to be playing mainly as a DM now.

Yeah, I was thinking he mostly played LB too, but perhaps they are moving him forward like happened with old buddy/mancrush Bryan Oviedo.

I couldn't see the game or formation, just tracked it on LiveScore and saw that he was the only goal scorer, around 73'
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 14, 2019, 01:44:20 AM
See Luke Garbutt has managed a whole three league appearances for league one Oxford United.

Flogging Herbalife on Instagram by 2020.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on February 16, 2019, 09:45:43 PM
Holgate assist for wba against villa with a good cross in.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on February 20, 2019, 01:38:26 PM
And another last night ✓
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 20, 2019, 01:45:41 PM
He's been playing right back for WBA and last night's assist he really showed some good pace to bomb to the by line and put it on a plate for his team mate to score

Also saw a clip of him against Stoke in the last minute the other week really bombing forward

This could be great news for us, as the reservations when he played right back for us were his attacking prowess which looks much improved
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: plumber on February 20, 2019, 05:13:42 PM
Let's not pretend Holgate will ever be a decent full back at the Prem level.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on February 20, 2019, 05:51:15 PM
Let's not pretend Holgate will ever be a decent full back at the Prem level.

Young players CAN kick on and develop, but I'd be a bit surprised if he was a RB at prem level yeah.

Nice to see him doing so well tho and definitely worth thinking about.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on February 20, 2019, 05:55:43 PM
He’s a better right back than centre half.

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on February 20, 2019, 06:53:42 PM
Doubt he’s got a future with us but wouldn’t at all be surprised if he made his way to the top.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: plumber on February 20, 2019, 07:42:05 PM
He’s a better right back than centre half.



Nah. Young CB sometimes looks better as full backs because it requires less awareness, experience and football IQ, but Holgate will never be a good modern, attacking right back.

Hasn't got enough qualities as a centre back at the moment but maybe he could develop into a decent defender in 3 CB formation.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cassius on February 24, 2019, 01:14:18 AM
Sheffield United currently winning 1-0 away at WBA with Dowell scoring a breakaway goal.


The goal; nice header.



https://streamable.com/6eaj5 (https://streamable.com/6eaj5)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 02, 2019, 03:38:02 AM
Holgate  with a bit of a mare tonight
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 06, 2019, 03:13:30 PM
popular lad

https://twitter.com/Totti95Allen/status/1102895151846957056
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on March 14, 2019, 03:36:04 AM
Holgate with a goal
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on March 18, 2019, 03:19:12 AM
Five goals in five starts for Bolasie at Anderlecht.

Hopefully leads to a European team taking a chance on him in the summer.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on April 03, 2019, 09:29:01 PM
Another goal for Vlasic

Subbed after 85mins with CSKA 2-0 up but drew 2-2

Chalov also scored again, looks a good centre forward
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on April 03, 2019, 09:35:25 PM
Another goal for Vlasic

Subbed after 85mins with CSKA 2-0 up but drew 2-2

Chalov also scored again, looks a good centre forward

What is his main position for CSKA? Does he play there every week?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on April 03, 2019, 10:01:41 PM
He’s a better right back than centre half.


he cant be a very good CB then, as his crossing was woeful at RB.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: D15TIN on April 03, 2019, 10:03:14 PM
Another goal for Vlasic

Subbed after 85mins with CSKA 2-0 up but drew 2-2

Chalov also scored again, looks a good centre forward
Niasse was player of the year in that league, lets not buy strikers from there
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on April 03, 2019, 10:45:56 PM
Forgot, everyone's a Niasse in that League

Short sighted judgement

I think Vlasic plays a Koeman'sNumberTen role
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 03, 2019, 11:05:00 PM
Niasse was player of the year in that league, lets not buy strikers from there

He really wasn’t though. Just in Martinez’s head
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Outworlder47 on April 03, 2019, 11:09:40 PM
What is his main position for CSKA? Does he play there every week?

Started every match in the league and Europe since he got there, played 2130 of 2160 possible minutes. The only match he hasn't played was the Russian Cup match where CSKA got bounced on penalties to a second division side.

CSKA and Vlasic himself have been most successful when he's played in either a 3-4-2-1 as part of the attacking 2, or in a 3-5-2 where he is one of two attack-minded central players. He's played a few games at right wing in either a 4-1-4-1 or 4-2-3-1, and that hasn't been as good.

Someone mentioned Fedor/Fyodor Chalov--19 goals+assists as a CF in 28, comfortable on either foot, composed in the box, and turns 21 next week. Just cracked the senior Russian side in the last round of Euro qualifiers.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on April 03, 2019, 11:40:29 PM
Niasse was player of the year in that league

He wasn’t
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on April 03, 2019, 11:47:10 PM
Chalov has recently signed a four year contract, good prospect and good in the air, too

£20m should be enough!
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on April 05, 2019, 03:00:34 AM
Good to see Sandro doing well

http://www.espnfc.com/player/188165/sandro-ramirez
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on April 05, 2019, 03:17:06 AM
Good to see Sandro doing well

http://www.espnfc.com/player/188165/sandro-ramirez

Pfft.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on April 05, 2019, 03:23:51 AM
Pfft.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Seriously though, how are we going to shift this fella
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 05, 2019, 03:59:36 AM
Sandro on the pitch now, against my $40 bet on Betis to score 2+
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueBeagle on April 05, 2019, 04:16:15 AM
Seriously though, how are we going to shift this fella

Loans with us heavily subsidising his sky-high wages for the remainder of his contract. Once that's run down, he'll scuttle off and sign a deal with a 2nd rate La Liga side on about 10k a week.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 05, 2019, 05:14:24 AM
Mad how he got actual minutes for Barca. Like he didn’t lay down serious numbers but he got a few under his belt.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on April 05, 2019, 05:55:47 AM
Mad how he got actual minutes for Barca. Like he didn’t lay down serious numbers but he got a few under his belt.

He just can't be as bad as he looks. It's absurd to think he could make it as a footballer let alone come through their academy and then actually play for them with what he's shown over the last two years.

The number of players connected to this club that have had serious existential crises of confidence over the last 18 months eithee here or before/after coming here is off the charts.

Davy Klassen couldn't look himself in the mirror when he left here. Tosun is considering giving up the prem for the Turkish league on less money. Schneiderlin carries a haunted look. Wayne Rooney nearly retired. Sando, poor Sandro is a wreck. Hasn't kicked a ball straight since he clapped eyes on Steve Walsh's briefcase.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: stirlingblue on April 05, 2019, 02:03:43 PM
Sandro on the pitch now, against my $40 bet on Betis to score 2+

My mate was at that game last night, he text me halfway through quoting an old message I’d sent him of a Sandro highlights video from when we signed him and asked how the fuck did we break him
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 05, 2019, 04:03:17 PM
He just can't be as bad as he looks. It's absurd to think he could make it as a footballer let alone come through their academy and then actually play for them with what he's shown over the last two years.

The number of players connected to this club that have had serious existential crises of confidence over the last 18 months eithee here or before/after coming here is off the charts.

Davy Klassen couldn't look himself in the mirror when he left here. Tosun is considering giving up the prem for the Turkish league on less money. Schneiderlin carries a haunted look. Wayne Rooney nearly retired. Sando, poor Sandro is a wreck. Hasn't kicked a ball straight since he clapped eyes on Steve Walsh's briefcase.

I really couldn’t agree more. I even think off the charts is an understatement.

Rooney aside (because I don’t think you could ever convince him he’s not an elite footballer) all of those players looked absolutely petrified and showed no interest in kicking a ball ever again. Which is weird because they’re professional footballers.

It makes me think that I’ve called it wrong with Keane and thinking he’s mentally weak, as he’s gone through worse periods of form than these guys, been unable to be dropped due to depth and actually managed to come through it, find form and gain his place in the national team scoring his first goal for his country in the process. Big props to that man. He could have jibbed it like the others.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Trowel on April 05, 2019, 05:21:36 PM
Good review of Pennington's time at Ipswich, following his season-ending ankle injury. He'll not get in our first team, but sounds like he's more than capable of a good career with strong Championship teams.

https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/matthew-pennington-ipswich-town-review-1-5979145
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 05, 2019, 05:35:18 PM
Good review of Pennington's time at Ipswich, following his season-ending ankle injury. He'll not get in our first team, but sounds like he's more than capable of a good career with strong Championship teams.

https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/matthew-pennington-ipswich-town-review-1-5979145

Definitely only good enough for bottom end Championship sides.... it's easy to get impressive stats for blocks/tackles per game when you play for a shit team always defending.... maybe we can flog him to Sunderland
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on April 05, 2019, 05:51:39 PM
I really couldn’t agree more. I even think off the charts is an understatement.

Rooney aside (because I don’t think you could ever convince him he’s not an elite footballer) all of those players looked absolutely petrified and showed no interest in kicking a ball ever again. Which is weird because they’re professional footballers.

It makes me think that I’ve called it wrong with Keane and thinking he’s mentally weak, as he’s gone through worse periods of form than these guys, been unable to be dropped due to depth and actually managed to come through it, find form and gain his place in the national team scoring his first goal for his country in the process. Big props to that man. He could have jibbed it like the others.

Yeah he should be massively applauded for the strength he's shown this year, especially considering he literally fractured his skull right in the middle of regaining some form.

Fair play big Micky Kegstand.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueForYou on April 05, 2019, 06:20:34 PM
I thought Callum Connolly would have made it here as a first teamer

Maybe at right back, better than Kenny?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on April 05, 2019, 06:53:48 PM
Fair play big Micky Kegstand.

@Bally (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19) 's gonna get ya!

 :snigger:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 05, 2019, 07:06:16 PM
I thought Callum Connolly would have made it here as a first teamer

Maybe at right back, better than Kenny?
Another one for the Championship, probably. Good pro but not a good enough technical player to make it in the prem. No great physical attributes, either. What is it about our kids - Pennington, Davies, Williams, Connelly, Kenny, Dowell etc. they’re all so one-paced.

Sickly looking white boys.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 05, 2019, 07:07:30 PM
My mate was at that game last night, he text me halfway through quoting an old message I’d sent him of a Sandro highlights video from when we signed him and asked how the fuck did we break him

Daggum Betis missed a few sitters, damned near put me on Tilt!

And yeah, one barely noticed Sandro being on the pitch.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on April 06, 2019, 01:58:06 PM
Just watched this:



The first part is mostly him holding players off - similar to Gomes but not so much poise. Another section has him winning the ball back for his team near his own penalty area. Not just your average highlights reel.

I really hope he comes back into the fold.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 09, 2019, 05:37:47 PM
Have we written off Holgate then as not good enough?

Or would we keep him around next season to cover RB/CB and loan out Kenny?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gary1878 on April 09, 2019, 05:55:56 PM
Have we written off Holgate then as not good enough?

Or would we keep him around next season to cover RB/CB and loan out Kenny?

I would look for a loan out again to another Championship side for the season, preferably one chasing promotion. He needs another whole season of games under his belt in his preferred position.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on April 12, 2019, 06:54:15 PM
Don't think there's much happening with Baningame. I really liked the look of him. If he's not playing at Wigan he needs to go somewhere else.

I know he had an injury - but I'm not sure when that was. If he's not playing due to injury - ignore me. Would love to see him get a couple of seasons with a title challenger and do well.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on April 12, 2019, 08:15:33 PM
Just watched this:



The first part is mostly him holding players off - similar to Gomes but not so much poise. Another section has him winning the ball back for his team near his own penalty area. Not just your average highlights reel.

I really hope he comes back into the fold.

I think he’s class.

Always played as a winger here, but a #10 or #8 is where we should play hin.

Be mad to let him go.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Trowel on April 17, 2019, 04:29:48 PM
Interview with Onyekuru, revealing he turned originally down PSG for us, and wants to come back.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47960695

Galatasaray are hoping to keep him for another season, but Onyekuru, who has scored once in nine appearances for Nigeria, has set his sights on the Premier League with parent club Everton.

"I've been longing and waiting because playing in the Premier League has been a childhood dream even before I left for Qatar," he said.

"I always watch Thierry Henry at Arsenal and learn more from him. I want to be just like him in the same league.

"At the moment I still watch some of his games on YouTube to learn how to move and score like him.

"I still don't have my work permit, but that's why I chose to go out on loan to get the exposure to move me closer to realising that dream."
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on April 17, 2019, 04:33:15 PM
Interview with Onyekuru, revealing he turned originally down PSG for us, and wants to come back.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47960695

Galatasaray are hoping to keep him for another season, but Onyekuru, who has scored once in nine appearances for Nigeria, has set his sights on the Premier League with parent club Everton.

"I've been longing and waiting because playing in the Premier League has been a childhood dream even before I left for Qatar," he said.

"I always watch Thierry Henry at Arsenal and learn more from him. I want to be just like him in the same league.

"At the moment I still watch some of his games on YouTube to learn how to move and score like him.

"I still don't have my work permit, but that's why I chose to go out on loan to get the exposure to move me closer to realising that dream."

An Henry clone would be perfect right about now :)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 29, 2019, 01:30:30 AM
https://twitter.com/SUFC_tweets/status/1122490217661980672
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on April 29, 2019, 04:01:03 AM
https://twitter.com/SUFC_tweets/status/1122490217661980672

Is that him singing his own ditty?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: gizzblue on April 29, 2019, 04:46:27 AM
The midfielder didn't do him any favors but that's an awful challenge.

https://streamable.com/h1w1n (https://streamable.com/h1w1n)

Also, what was he thinking adding that blonde streak to his hair?

Fuck ...did he had both the other players  :thumbsup: quality
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: American Evertonian on April 29, 2019, 05:21:05 AM
Fuck ...did he had both the other players  :thumbsup: quality

Apparently linked with MLS. God help the MLS if they want to add him for any contract paying him more than $1,000/month
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on April 29, 2019, 07:46:01 PM
Has he played much under wilder?

Last few times I've seen them he's not seemed to be playing.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 30, 2019, 12:30:02 AM
Dowell’s not been in the starting line-up for a month or so.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Macca77 on April 30, 2019, 12:40:06 AM
Time to cash in on the likes of Dowell and Pennington, championship is just about their level
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on April 30, 2019, 12:41:02 AM
Dowell’s not been in the starting line-up for a month or so.


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Yeah, that vid was him at the end of a four week bender
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on April 30, 2019, 12:44:22 AM
Time to cash in on the likes of Dowell and Pennington, championship is just about their level

Nah, not dowell.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on April 30, 2019, 02:10:34 AM
Nah, not dowell.

beginning to give up a bit personally.

Sell with buy back would be my preference.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: markB on April 30, 2019, 05:48:53 PM
beginning to give up a bit personally.

Sell with buy back would be my preference.

could see a few go out like that
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cassius on May 06, 2019, 01:32:54 AM
Dowell scored for Sheffield United today, after coming on as a half time substitute with John Lundstram.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on May 06, 2019, 01:39:18 AM
Unrelated but I saw Ryan Ledson the other week. He'd been playing footy at goals in Netherton and was sat off with some lids.

He's done OK fort himself since leaving. Another one who hated unsie wasn't he.

Changes to the academy set up soon I think.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on May 06, 2019, 01:44:24 AM
Unrelated but I saw Ryan Ledson the other week. He'd been playing footy at goals in Netherton and was sat off with some lids.

He's done OK fort himself since leaving. Another one who hated unsie wasn't he.

Changes to the academy set up soon I think.

I can't imagine Unsworth is anywhere near as bad as Stubbs
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Ross on May 06, 2019, 01:46:34 AM
Unrelated but I saw Ryan Ledson the other week. He'd been playing footy at goals in Netherton and was sat off with some lids.

He's done OK fort himself since leaving. Another one who hated unsie wasn't he.

Changes to the academy set up soon I think.

Where’s this “hated unsie” come from?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on May 06, 2019, 02:37:27 AM
Where’s this “hated unsie” come from?

It's been on here hasn't it?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on May 06, 2019, 02:49:03 AM
To be fair, he’s won the league twice and brought on quite a lot of players.

Doubt we’d change anything because a couple of players don’t like him.

George Green and Ryan Ledson don’t like him.

DCL, Tom Davies and Jon joe Kenny do like him.

Hmmmm, figure that out.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Ross on May 06, 2019, 02:54:10 AM
It's been on here hasn't it?

Can’t say I’ve seen that sort of thing. Maybe?

Being honest I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the academy side of the club and I’d be surprised if there’s any real changes. Maybe if Unsworth gets a decent opportunity but I can’t see him being pushed out.

We produce footballers that if they don’t make the grade here seem to go on and have good careers elsewhere. Job done I’d say.

You can’t have a Rooney or Barkley every year but I still like to see things like Duffy or Lundstrum today or Vaughan last week for Portsmouth doing well.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 15, 2019, 02:37:12 AM
Mason Holgate has a long throw! Him and Digne to launch them into the box constantly... get Giroud signed up  :woohoo:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on May 15, 2019, 04:57:17 AM
Mason Holgate has a long throw! Him and Digne to launch them into the box constantly... get Giroud signed up  :woohoo:

Did you miss Stoke this season?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Mac934 on May 24, 2019, 05:33:03 PM
Now the season is over, who is and who isn't coming back from loans?
I guess Williams won't be back as his contract is finished.
Are we likely to keep any of the 'senior' loanees for the first team and which of the youngsters are we likely to promote to 1st team squad status if any? Dowell maybe?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 24, 2019, 07:01:12 PM
Don’t think any will come back and make an impression. Dowell might stay for another loan with Sheffield Utd.

Marco might have another look at Vlasic but he wasn’t impressed with him last pre-season and the lad doesn’t many to be here.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Robioto on May 24, 2019, 07:42:18 PM
Martina is going isn't he? His loan to Feyenoord was with an obligation to buy at the end of the season wasn't it?

Just checking. :)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hesmenos on May 25, 2019, 01:44:35 PM
I thought they were obligated to buy as well, but I read somewhere recently (think it was the Echo) that Feyenoord have  decided against buying him.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 25, 2019, 02:27:01 PM
Feyenoord have  decided against buying him.

Always inevitable after they'd actually watched him in person I suppose
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 25, 2019, 02:47:28 PM
Apparently he’s done well over there but Feyenoord are having financial difficulties. Hopefully another Dutch team comes in for him.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on May 25, 2019, 02:57:57 PM
Apparently he’s done well over there but Feyenoord are having financial difficulties. Hopefully another Dutch team comes in for him.


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If he has done well that really does underline the fact we should exercise caution when buying from that league
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on July 01, 2019, 01:49:37 AM
No minutes for Henry at AFCON.

Off on loan again at best then.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Brownie on July 01, 2019, 01:54:35 AM
No minutes for Henry at AFCON.

Off on loan again at best then.

Think we’ll cut our losses on him this summer.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on July 01, 2019, 01:55:18 AM
No minutes for Henry at AFCON.

Off on loan again at best then.

I feel like we’re going to and up with a points deduction because of this transfer.

Something just seems off.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Brownie on July 01, 2019, 01:57:57 AM
I feel like we’re going to and up with a points deduction because of this transfer.

Something just seems off.

Really?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on July 01, 2019, 02:03:59 AM
Nah we haven’t done anything wrong. Chelsea have this as their business model and we have had a go at it too. If we sell him we’ll have made a fair few quid on it with loan fees too, his agent will have made some money and the lad ends up at a champions league club probably.

It’s a decent revenue option and occasionally one player might prove to be an important first team player at the end of it.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 01, 2019, 02:07:43 AM
He’s obviously not that good. Was hoping he’d shine for Nigeria but if he’s not good enough for them it’s time to just admit defeat and move him on
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on July 01, 2019, 02:35:47 AM
I feel like we’re going to and up with a points deduction because of this transfer.

Something just seems off.

Stinky isn't it.

Got big fat Mendes style fingerprints all over it.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on July 01, 2019, 02:39:41 AM
Really?

Only place I can see the link to Onyekuru is in the newspaper that shall not be named, but Mogi Bayat who *might* be his agent was arrested for corruption and money laundering at the end of last year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/belgium-scandal-agent-involved-in-onyekuru-deals/amp/
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Brownie on July 01, 2019, 03:24:34 AM
Only place I can see the link to Onyekuru is in the newspaper that shall not be named, but Mogi Bayat who *might* be his agent was arrested for corruption and money laundering at the end of last year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/belgium-scandal-agent-involved-in-onyekuru-deals/amp/

Doesn’t make great reading
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: DanDan on July 18, 2019, 04:18:16 AM
Onyekuru couldn’t even get any minutes in a 3rd place play off game tonight
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Macca77 on July 18, 2019, 05:52:48 PM
Josh Bowler off to Hull on a season long loan
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 18, 2019, 06:04:09 PM
Was our last really successful outward loan Coleman? Our loans in recent years tend to just confirm they’ll never be good enough
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 18, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
Was our last really successful outward loan Coleman? Our loans in recent years tend to just confirm they'll never be good enough
We need a mindset shift. The majority of loans these days are to increase a player’s value and make money.

In that regard; Lookman, Vlasic, Onyekuru, were all successful loans.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gary1878 on July 18, 2019, 08:06:15 PM
The current Onyekuru situation is utterly bizarre. No point in sending him out on loan for a third time if we can never use the chap!
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: ally2 on July 19, 2019, 12:05:28 AM
Love our Henry. Never seen him play a game and he's never kicked a ball for us but somehow it kind of adds up to legend status. Will be sad to see him go.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Old England Toffee on August 06, 2019, 01:45:39 AM
http://firstr0w.eu/soccer/huddersfield-town-derby-county-ras37661e?l=3003564847 For anyone who wants to watch kieran dowell
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on August 06, 2019, 02:06:32 AM
http://firstr0w.eu/soccer/huddersfield-town-derby-county-ras37661e?l=3003564847 For anyone who wants to watch kieran dowell

20 minutes in.

Will be boss when he touches the ball
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on August 06, 2019, 02:15:22 AM
Just give away a penalty
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 06, 2019, 02:15:31 AM
Dowell gives away a pen
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Old England Toffee on August 06, 2019, 02:20:23 AM
ok everyone stop watching the stream, were putting too much pressure on him
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Goaljira on August 09, 2019, 10:51:27 AM
https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=346394 (https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=346394)
Cuco Martina named in the Eredivisie team of the week on his debut, playing as a center back.
Lets recall him for the Cardiff game.  :thumbsup:


Short at CB, you say?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 10, 2019, 11:33:59 PM
Garbutt with another and Broadhead with  2 today
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on August 10, 2019, 11:37:29 PM
Garbutt with another and Broadhead with  2 today

Wow Broadhead nice
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 10, 2019, 11:40:29 PM
Wow Broadhead nice

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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 10, 2019, 11:42:00 PM
A stunner apparently ...

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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 12, 2019, 04:15:39 PM
Luke Garbutt reinvented as a free scoring left mid, just like a young Gareth Bale...

 :whistle:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 14, 2019, 07:02:33 PM
Virginia not getting good reviews at Reading
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 14, 2019, 07:04:36 PM
Virginia not getting good reviews at Reading
And they brought in another keeper, he’s got competition. Might lose his place unless he gets it together.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 14, 2019, 07:05:58 PM
Apparently Bowler has looked bright for Hull. Encouraging news, I rate him.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: gizzblue on August 15, 2019, 12:29:40 AM
Apparently Bowler has looked bright for Hull. Encouraging news, I rate him.


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See this kid in the full squad next year ....proper little trickster with a finish too.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on August 15, 2019, 03:32:18 PM
See this kid in the full squad next year ....proper little trickster with a finish too.

Someone said Hull have an option to buy, but I hope not.

Still, if they have, it obviously means he probably isn’t the level we’re aiming for.

As an aside, he looks about 37.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: bigmanbob on August 15, 2019, 07:08:10 PM
Someone said Hull have an option to buy, but I hope not.

Still, if they have, it obviously means he probably isn’t the level we’re aiming for.

As an aside, he looks about 37.
I'm pretty sure I've read several times he's highly rated with us so I'd like to think that's not the case
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Alanvideo on August 15, 2019, 07:20:02 PM
Someone said Hull have an option to buy, but I hope not.

Still, if they have, it obviously means he probably isn’t the level we’re aiming for.

As an aside, he looks about 37.
.....................he does too, I'm sure I've seen him in Peaky Blinders   :-X
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on August 15, 2019, 08:08:44 PM
.....................he does too, I'm sure I've seen him in Peaky Blinders   :-X

Yeah, proper weathered.

I heard he had a hard paper round.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: gizzblue on August 15, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
Yeah, proper weathered.

I heard he had a hard paper round.

Where was it Paige moss :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on August 15, 2019, 10:41:08 PM
Where was it Paige moss :thumbsup:

*Googles Paige Moss. Discovers she’s an obscure American actress. Changes spelling to ‘Page’ and adds ‘Liverpool’ and learns that it’s an area in the borough of Knowsley. Presses ‘like’, knowingly.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 15, 2019, 10:42:18 PM
*Googles Paige Moss. Discovers she’s an obscure American actress. Changes spelling to ‘Page’ and adds ‘Liverpool’ and learns that it’s an area in the borough of Knowsley. Presses ‘like’, knowingly.

Google the wrestler ‘paige’

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on August 15, 2019, 11:02:12 PM
Google the wrestler ‘paige’



*Googles ‘wrestler paige nude leak.’ Wanks.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: gizzblue on August 16, 2019, 05:19:57 AM
*Googles Paige Moss. Discovers she’s an obscure American actress. Changes spelling to ‘Page’ and adds ‘Liverpool’ and learns that it’s an area in the borough of Knowsley. Presses ‘like’, knowingly.

fuck knows where the 'I' came from ...gotta upgrade my auld phone man . :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 18, 2019, 03:30:44 AM
Kenny getting very good reviews for his performance today
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 18, 2019, 03:39:24 AM
Kenny getting very good reviews for his performance today

Who’d they play?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Dr. Sponge on August 18, 2019, 03:45:20 AM
Who'd they play?
0-0 away to Gladbach

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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: irishtoffee on August 18, 2019, 05:51:22 PM
And they brought in another keeper, he's got competition. Might lose his place unless he gets it together.


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You were correct. Dropped to the bench today against Cardiff. Interesting to see the Romanian striker Reading bought from inter Milan. George puscas, looked good at the under 21 tournament last summer
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 21, 2019, 05:32:02 AM
Dowell getting absolutely slaughtered on twitter by Derby fans.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: stirlingblue on August 21, 2019, 05:45:28 AM
Dowell getting absolutely slaughtered on twitter by Derby fans.


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He’s got a bit of the Ozils about him in that his natural movement style looks lazy so on a bad day he’s a natural target, covers a decent amount of distance in reality though
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on August 21, 2019, 02:18:22 PM
Dowell getting absolutely slaughtered on twitter by Derby fans.


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I watched a few mins and they were getting run over by Bristol, he was absolutely nowhere to be seen and none of them seemed able to put 2 passes together.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: dazfrancis on August 22, 2019, 05:16:11 PM
Derby forum thread on Dowell descends into 6 page discussion on spelling and grammar  ;D

https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/33270-i-would-drive-dowell-back-up-to-everton-myself/page/6/#comments

He probably feels like he's still here

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Omar on August 22, 2019, 06:37:47 PM
Derby forum thread on Dowell descends into 6 page discussion on spelling and grammar  ;D

https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/33270-i-would-drive-dowell-back-up-to-everton-myself/page/6/#comments

He probably feels like he's still here



Can’t wait till wazza shows up there.  :snigger:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: ally2 on August 23, 2019, 03:48:31 AM
They must have gone through the carpentry jokes too.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 25, 2019, 01:35:34 AM
Virginia dropped at reading.

Another wasted loan then.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 25, 2019, 04:52:19 AM
Virginia dropped at reading.

Another wasted loan then.

They want to win, not just try and train our players up, if he wasn’t so shit they wouldn’t have dropped him
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Alanvideo on August 25, 2019, 05:04:18 AM
Doen't say loan or buy.
Real Madrid are targeting a shock move for Everton's Dutch goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg, 36, if Chilean Keylor Navas moves to Paris St-Germain. (Football Insider) via BBC Gossip
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Trowel on August 26, 2019, 02:55:20 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/1165894060198023168
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on August 27, 2019, 05:46:02 PM
Done deal, one of the weirdest announcement vids I've ever seen too
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 27, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
Done deal, one of the weirdest announcement vids I've ever seen too

You’re not kidding.

https://twitter.com/kvkofficieel/status/1166289500936577025?s=21
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gary1878 on August 27, 2019, 07:18:20 PM
Done deal, one of the weirdest announcement vids I've ever seen too

I thought the James McCarthy unveiling was the worst announcement video I would see this year.....
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Confucius on August 28, 2019, 12:33:09 PM
Love that McCall goal.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: boothill on August 28, 2019, 01:10:23 PM
Joel robles sent off for hacking down sancho,  whos now injured.  Bit of blue on blue there

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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 29, 2019, 07:46:30 PM
Callum Connolly on loan to Lincoln.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on August 29, 2019, 09:24:03 PM
Callum Connolly on loan to Lincoln.


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Back down to league one after having 4 championship loans since his first league one loan.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 29, 2019, 09:27:02 PM
Callum Connolly on loan to Lincoln.


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Another one who isnt good enough
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 29, 2019, 09:52:35 PM
Back down to league one after having 4 championship loans since his first league one loan.
Pretty telling


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 29, 2019, 09:53:07 PM
Last year of his contract? So we are basically giving him away?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on August 29, 2019, 10:15:56 PM
Last year of his contract? So we are basically giving him away?

It's alright when he's released he can just come and play in competitive games for free like Charsley.

Never mind the lads on the bench like
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 30, 2019, 03:58:21 AM
They all love Kennys accent over in schalke.

Is right JonJoe
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Escla on August 30, 2019, 04:18:09 PM
I know it’s not a loan, we sold him but can’t find a thread about him but what’s going on with Lookman, is he injured ? Hasn’t even been on the bench for RB’s last two games ?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 30, 2019, 04:44:14 PM
I know it’s not a loan, we sold him but can’t find a thread about him but what’s going on with Lookman, is he injured ? Hasn’t even been on the bench for RB’s last two games ?

He’s not that good?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 30, 2019, 06:15:41 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-manager-comments-potential-early-16836354?fbclid=IwAR0kcZCq_i_rVLAgSb8TSdvHUH2yD2iK4x875FGyNEtgTjIjo8EPbe5rV2s

Going well then!
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jamokachi on August 30, 2019, 09:42:34 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-manager-comments-potential-early-16836354?fbclid=IwAR0kcZCq_i_rVLAgSb8TSdvHUH2yD2iK4x875FGyNEtgTjIjo8EPbe5rV2s

Going well then!

Misleading clickbait article. Actually sats the lad is doing well and working hard in training.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 30, 2019, 09:43:45 PM
Bit grim the way he’s been dropped though.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 30, 2019, 10:20:48 PM
Supposed third choice keeper playing instead of him tho
Misleading clickbait article. Actually sats the lad is doing well and working hard in training.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Trowel on August 31, 2019, 10:19:14 PM
https://twitter.com/s04_en/status/1167818441497202688
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on August 31, 2019, 10:30:25 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/cxwomh/schalke_04_30_hertha_bsc_kenny_85/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Dreadful celebration haha
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on August 31, 2019, 10:34:55 PM
Get out there Tom lad. Go and have some fun for a year.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on August 31, 2019, 11:04:41 PM
I loved that celebration.

I love Jonjoe Kenny, such a lad.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on August 31, 2019, 11:08:23 PM
Boss goal.

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: DanDan on August 31, 2019, 11:55:38 PM
I know it’s not a loan, we sold him but can’t find a thread about him but what’s going on with Lookman, is he injured ? Hasn’t even been on the bench for RB’s last two games ?
Was on the bench last night
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bluedylan on September 01, 2019, 05:16:06 PM
What a fucking hit from the lad.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GLewis on September 01, 2019, 05:57:46 PM
Will be great for his confidence.

Would be interesting to see what his general football has been like. Aside from a nice curving ball round the full back into the channel, he’s always looked a bit lost when in possession I think.

That and whether he’s 5 yards too deep in the defensive line very often.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on September 01, 2019, 06:37:31 PM
Will be great for his confidence.

Would be interesting to see what his general football has been like. Aside from a nice curving ball round the full back into the channel, he’s always looked a bit lost when in possession I think.

That and whether he’s 5 yards too deep in the defensive line very often.

Yeah, I think he’s sometimes too deep because he’s worried about getting done for pace.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on September 01, 2019, 07:09:44 PM
Will be great for his confidence.

Would be interesting to see what his general football has been like. Aside from a nice curving ball round the full back into the channel, he’s always looked a bit lost when in possession I think.

That and whether he’s 5 yards too deep in the defensive line very often.

I was slightly surprised such a big side came in for him. I really thought he'd be championship level but fair play. Good to see him making a go of it, this must be make or break for him I think considering we've loaned Big Sid, take a year to look at both of them.

I do like that curvy channel pass and tbh I do think he goes into the strikers feet more often then Coleman seems comfortable doing.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 01, 2019, 07:12:58 PM
Would be really handy if he had a breakthrough year and he could legit compete for the RB slot at a top 6 kinda level when he comes home.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on September 01, 2019, 07:18:21 PM
The fact we’ve chosen to loan a 27 year old instead of buying a RB tells me there’s a chance for Kenny.

I rate him and think he’s certainly a premier league player. Still not sure if that’s at us, or a lower table side though.

Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: mikey_blue on September 01, 2019, 07:37:30 PM
wrong thread  :bonk:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GLewis on September 01, 2019, 10:53:14 PM
The fact we’ve chosen to loan a 27 year old instead of buying a RB tells me there’s a chance for Kenny.

I rate him and think he’s certainly a premier league player. Still not sure if that’s at us, or a lower table side though.



Apart from the weird 5 yard thing I think he’s good defensively.

Generally good 1v1 and good at the far post.

The fact that he can play a nice curved ball round the full back gives me hope he can do more than panic when in possession but he needs games.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GLewis on September 01, 2019, 10:53:38 PM
I was slightly surprised such a big side came in for him. I really thought he'd be championship level but fair play. Good to see him making a go of it, this must be make or break for him I think considering we've loaned Big Sid, take a year to look at both of them.

I do like that curvy channel pass and tbh I do think he goes into the strikers feet more often then Coleman seems comfortable doing.

They did pick Wagner as their manager though ;)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 01, 2019, 10:56:34 PM
The fact we've chosen to loan a 27 year old instead of buying a RB tells me there's a chance for Kenny.

I rate him and think he's certainly a premier league player. Still not sure if that's at us, or a lower table side though.
Yeah Brands says himself in an interview, that they took a loan on a player because of Kenny.

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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Trowel on September 26, 2019, 02:16:54 AM
Read this earlier on Virginia, and sounds like he's had a mare tonight for Wolves' opening goal...

https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/readingfc/17926274.column-courtney-friday-shares-views-reading-fc/
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 26, 2019, 06:56:22 AM
Read this earlier on Virginia, and sounds like he's had a mare tonight for Wolves' opening goal...

https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/readingfc/17926274.column-courtney-friday-shares-views-reading-fc/
Got dropped and then was given an olive branch with this league cup game but he’s had another mare. He’s done at Reading.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 26, 2019, 05:27:50 PM
See Broadhead scored last night again
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Free Agent on September 30, 2019, 09:53:07 PM
Schlake now top 4  :tongue:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GLewis on October 01, 2019, 02:57:06 AM
Schlake now top 4  :tongue:

No David Wagner shouts...?

:)
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Toddacelli on October 01, 2019, 11:54:45 AM
Schlake now top 4  :tongue:

That's great - I just Googled it and last season they finished 14th which was only 2 places above relegation. They were only 5 points above a relegation playoff place.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Free Agent on October 01, 2019, 08:56:11 PM
That's great - I just Googled it and last season they finished 14th which was only 2 places above relegation. They were only 5 points above a relegation playoff place.

we’re currently 2 places above relegation too


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: dazfrancis on October 07, 2019, 05:31:44 PM
Hornby scored 2 this weekend
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: dazfrancis on October 07, 2019, 05:34:02 PM
Goals here

https://twitter.com/search?q=fraser%20hornby&src=typed_query
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Ravardo on October 07, 2019, 08:53:41 PM
Sandro misses a penatly by blazing it over the bar meaning he still hasnt scored since 2017 ;D
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on October 07, 2019, 09:12:19 PM
Sandro misses a penatly by blazing it over the bar meaning he still hasnt scored since 2017 ;D

He’s a good player innee
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Ravardo on October 07, 2019, 09:13:56 PM
53 games no goals shocking that must of been scouted by stevie wonder
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: sam of the south on October 08, 2019, 12:41:11 AM
53 games no goals shocking that must of been scouted by stevie wonder

Yup, our own Stevie Wonder, in an ageing PE teacher’s tracksuit.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Lxxx on October 08, 2019, 09:46:52 PM
At £5m he was worth a punt.

At six figures a week for five years he really wasn't.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on October 27, 2019, 04:10:41 AM
Anyone know how these guys are getting on? From what I can tell:

Jonjo Kenny seems like he's smashing it in Germany with Schalke.
Sandro still hasn't scored and is presumably doing shite for Real Valladolid
Dowell can't get a game for Derby, presumably because he doesn't put himself about enough. Derby are doing shite this season so I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing.
Viginia is sitting on the bench for Reading after a couple of early disasters and Reading have since binned their Portuguese manager.
Garbutt (lol) is actually doing well for Ipswich.
Josh Bowler doesn't seem to making much noise at Hull.
Broadhead has scored a few for Burton and seems like he's doing well down there.
Besic is at Sheff United apparently.
Pennington is apparently at Hull.
Hornby doing something in Belgium
Connolly at Lincoln.
Bolasie can't get a game for a horrific Sporting Lisbon side.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 27, 2019, 04:22:42 AM
Anyone know how these guys are getting on? From what I can tell:

Jonjo Kenny seems like he's smashing it in Germany with Schalke.
Sandro still hasn't scored and is presumably doing shite for Real Valladolid
Dowell can't get a game for Derby, presumably because he doesn't put himself about enough. Derby are doing shite this season so I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing.
Viginia is sitting on the bench for Reading after a couple of early disasters and Reading have since binned their Portuguese manager.
Garbutt (lol) is actually doing well for Ipswich.
Josh Bowler doesn't seem to making much noise at Hull.
Broadhead has scored a few for Burton and seems like he's doing well down there.
Besic is at Sheff United apparently.
Pennington is apparently at Hull.
Hornby doing something in Belgium
Connolly at Lincoln.
Bolasie can't get a game for a horrific Sporting Lisbon side.

Bolasie has started their last 6 or 7 up front and scored the winner in the Europa League in midweek...
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on October 27, 2019, 04:24:09 AM
Bolasie has started their last 6 or 7 up front and scored the winner in the Europa League in midweek...

I just saw two league appearances tbf mate.

one goal doesn't sound too impressive.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 27, 2019, 04:29:26 AM
I just saw two league appearances tbf mate.

one goal doesn't sound too impressive.

Oh he’s still shit don’t worry  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: brap2 on October 27, 2019, 05:07:00 AM
Dowell training with Derby u23s according to twitter like.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 27, 2019, 01:30:27 PM
Dowell training with Derby u23s according to twitter like.

I’ve been patient and hopeful for years with this kid. But I’m kinda feeling his “Osman style” late bloom may not actually be the reality of the situation.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 27, 2019, 01:34:49 PM
Dowell has no chance of a career with us. He’s failed now at 2 championship clubs back to back. Not good enough and never will be
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 27, 2019, 06:21:11 PM
Dowell has no chance of a career with us. He's failed now at 2 championship clubs back to back. Not good enough and never will be
Yep. But wait for the calls for him to be given game time with us, next season. Think we’ve even missed the boat in regards to getting some decent money for him.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 02, 2019, 10:43:06 PM
Bowler scored for Hull today


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: DanDan on November 03, 2019, 06:52:48 PM
I’ve just witnessed Sandro scoring a league goal
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 06, 2019, 12:31:08 PM
Haven’t got the link but the local paper Hull Chronicle or something, saying Hull have a £5m buy option for Bowler which they can activate at any point.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: bigmanbob on November 06, 2019, 03:40:23 PM
He's hardly been playing for them has he?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 06, 2019, 05:35:57 PM
He's hardly been playing for them has he?
Think he stared the last couple and scored on Saturday. I’m not sure whether Hull could afford £5m?


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: april on November 06, 2019, 06:55:35 PM
Bowler scored for Hull today


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I’m just waiting for him to score three...
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Trowel on January 03, 2020, 06:43:17 PM
Sounds like Dowell is going to Wigan on loan after struggling at Derby.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Ramjam on January 03, 2020, 06:45:04 PM
Sounds like Dowell is going to Wigan on loan after struggling at Derby.
I think he’s finished at Everton


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 03, 2020, 06:54:55 PM
I think he's finished at Everton


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100% Not sure which Championship clubs would even pay money for him. Can see him being loaned out each season until his deal’s up.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Macca77 on January 03, 2020, 07:15:32 PM
I think he’s finished at Everton


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He's nowhere near good enough, struggles in the Championship, really should cash in on him, get what we can.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: TheRam on January 03, 2020, 07:24:36 PM
A loan move to Wigan.

Known at Everton as the graveyard shift.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on January 03, 2020, 07:28:35 PM
A loan move to Wigan.

Known at Everton as the graveyard shift.

He’d be suited to Serie A massively but that’s not really an English thing to do
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 03, 2020, 07:29:45 PM
He's nowhere near good enough, struggles in the Championship, really should cash in on him, get what we can.
I’ve said before that I’m not sure why a championship team would make the financial commitment to buy him when they can just loan him or another young player from a PL team, for next to nothing.

If he does well at Wigan, perhaps they might be willing to pay a couple of million for him, in the hope he fulfils his potential and they can make money on him.

No one is paying £8m-£10m for him though. Annoying, because Harry Wilson is a very similar player who only bangs them in from 20 yards, and doesn’t do much else, and they’ll get £20m+ for him.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: cantoffee on January 03, 2020, 10:30:09 PM
Dont think he has the physicality to play in the prem. Maybe that will change but he's not just lightweight, he's slow, weak, and doesn't have much of an engine it seems.

Think he could look good in the right team with lots of freedom but he won't get that in the prem. Maybe a championship team.

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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 04, 2020, 12:26:33 AM
Dont think he has the physicality to play in the prem. Maybe that will change but he's not just lightweight, he's slow, weak, and doesn't have much of an engine it seems.

Think he could look good in the right team with lots of freedom but he won't get that in the prem. Maybe a championship team.

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He can’t do much about his lack of pace, but being weak, lightweight and having poor fitness are things a player can work on and improve, yeno; if they’re arsed.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on January 04, 2020, 12:27:58 AM
He can’t do much about his lack of pace, but being weak, lightweight and having poor fitness are things a player can work on and improve, yeno; if they’re arsed.


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Yeah he's moving into Luke Garbutt territory here.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on January 04, 2020, 11:22:12 PM
Dowell straight in for a start against Leicester
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Hesmenos on January 05, 2020, 01:05:34 AM
He can’t do much about his lack of pace, but being weak, lightweight and having poor fitness are things a player can work on and improve, yeno; if they’re arsed.


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I saw somewhere that he weighs 59kgs. That's ridiculous if true. If he's serious about making it he needs to do some extra sessions in the gym.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: andygraysbarber on January 05, 2020, 08:30:06 AM
is that crab Tarashaj still on Evertons books? meant to be the future according to Bobby Brown but had more loans than Katie Price absolute drain of a signing
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 05, 2020, 05:15:37 PM
is that crab Tarashaj still on Evertons books? meant to be the future according to Bobby Brown but had more loans than Katie Price absolute drain of a signing
Yep, and got another year on his contract after this one.  It saying he would have amounted to much anyway, but his career had been ruined by injuries.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: pjk on January 23, 2020, 04:16:05 AM
Sandro's just scored again! What's that this season, 2?  :)



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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Goaljira on January 25, 2020, 10:46:25 PM
Little Mo scored for Sheff United.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Goaljira on January 26, 2020, 01:08:13 AM
https://twitter.com/BHlive_official/status/1221108680835452928?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Alanvideo on January 26, 2020, 01:28:38 AM
https://twitter.com/BHlive_official/status/1221108680835452928?
......................big  :hug: from Jags there too
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Martip on January 26, 2020, 01:35:02 AM
Little Mo scored for Sheff United.
We might get some actual money for him !
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on January 26, 2020, 02:09:27 AM
Big fan of Mo Besic, not even arsed.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 26, 2020, 02:15:11 AM
Big fan of Mo Besic, not even arsed.

He’s not great but I think he’d get minutes here currently
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 26, 2020, 02:59:29 AM
Tore the mighty Millwall defence apart. He's found his level.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 26, 2020, 03:10:44 AM
Tore the mighty Millwall defence apart. He's found his level.

Are millwall better or worse than Liverpool’s youth team
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Alanvideo on January 26, 2020, 03:29:39 AM
Are millwall better or worse than Liverpool’s youth team
..................we've lost to them both in the recent past.  :-X
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 26, 2020, 12:14:17 PM
We might get some actual money for him !
Pretty sure he’s out of contract this summer. Typical that he starts proving himself just as he’s out of contract and we get fuck all for him.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Martip on January 26, 2020, 04:26:31 PM
Besic is not great by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd rather start him than Davies atm.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: mikey_blue on January 26, 2020, 04:50:23 PM
Besic is not great by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd rather start him than Davies atm.

Has more attributes that we need at the moment. Defensive output and mobility.

Davies is a better at progressing the ball forward.

Both give away silly fouls and get yellows like their lives depended on it. Do love a Mo Besic slidey though.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Silas on January 26, 2020, 04:55:48 PM
Our central midfield really is wank if people think Besic should be back here
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Martip on January 26, 2020, 06:01:16 PM
Our central midfield really is wank if people think Besic should be back here
Bad state of affairs atm isnt it but hopefully things will improve in this window.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: cantoffee on January 26, 2020, 06:19:22 PM
Besic isn't what we need but he'd a good for some prem teams.

Be surprised if we can't shift him on for 8 million or so this summer.

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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Martip on January 26, 2020, 06:43:06 PM
Besic isn't what we need but he'd a good for some prem teams.

Be surprised if we can't shift him on for 8 million or so this summer.

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Hes not what we need long term agreed although might have been useful recently with our lack of available options....£8m would be a good result really.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 26, 2020, 06:43:39 PM
Besic isn't what we need but he'd a good for some prem teams.

Be surprised if we can't shift him on for 8 million or so this summer.

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He’ll leave on a free in the summer as out of contract.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gash on January 26, 2020, 06:59:21 PM
He’ll leave on a free in the summer as out of contract.


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Signed a five and a half year extension in Feb 2016. He's got 18 months left.   
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on January 26, 2020, 07:25:56 PM
He’ll leave on a free in the summer as out of contract.


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 26, 2020, 08:03:22 PM
Ahhh, cool. Cheers. Well, yeah, gotta be hopeful of getting a few quid in then!


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Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on January 26, 2020, 08:06:00 PM
Ahhh, cool. Cheers. Well, yeah, gotta be hopeful of getting a few quid in then!


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 :thumbsup: I only even Googled it because I've stared at contract end dates for 3 months now and thought I missed one 😂
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 27, 2020, 06:16:10 PM
Has more attributes that we need at the moment. Defensive output and mobility.

Davies is a better at progressing the ball forward.

Both give away silly fouls and get yellows like their lives depended on it. Do love a Mo Besic slidey though.

Davies does get the ball forward more but usually in to a defender, falls over or misplaces a pass and we get hit on the break.
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Robioto on January 27, 2020, 06:35:36 PM
https://twitter.com/everton/status/704384527297339392

Fucking hell, what were we thinking...
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Gary1878 on January 27, 2020, 07:08:52 PM
5 and a half years! What on earth were we doing?
Title: Re: 2018-19 Loan Watch
Post by: Shogun on January 27, 2020, 09:21:15 PM
Just Roberto Martinez things