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Title: Which player in his absolute hey day?
Post by: blue1948 on September 14, 2018, 12:29:53 PM
Who would you have wanted most ? Rooney ,Gascoigne , Ginola , Eto'o or which ex-player ?
For me it has to be Rooney because of what it would have meant  to him.
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Post by: Ramjam on September 14, 2018, 12:57:45 PM
Gazza, best English player I’ve ever seen in the past 40 years. Genius as a matter of fact
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Post by: Waltzer on September 14, 2018, 12:59:08 PM
Rather have Andrei over any of them
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Post by: Cereal Killer on September 14, 2018, 01:41:44 PM
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Just me? Oh alright then....

Definitely Gazza at his best, although Mark Hughes would be decent at the moment
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Post by: Jamokachi on September 14, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Kanchelskis. Although I feel like we did have him at his best, just not for long enough.
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Post by: Shogun on September 14, 2018, 03:51:19 PM
Eto’o obviously

Still think it’s mad he played for us
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Post by: Toddacelli on September 14, 2018, 04:18:18 PM
Dixie.
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Post by: Alanvideo on September 14, 2018, 04:50:31 PM
Eto’o obviously

Still think it’s mad he played for us
...............yes I was just going to say that . Rooney and Gascoigne are good shouts but Eto'o just looked different class every time he touched the ball.
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Post by: formerKHL on September 14, 2018, 04:55:26 PM
Raul..David Villa...Iniesta

van basten...Cruyff...
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Post by: Jamokachi on September 14, 2018, 05:11:57 PM
Raul..David Villa...Iniesta

van basten...Cruyff...

Is this real life?
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Post by: Jimmywhack on September 14, 2018, 05:14:25 PM
Gazza
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Post by: Brownie on September 14, 2018, 05:16:11 PM
Just thinking of an Everton team with Gazza, Ginola, Kanchelskis, Eto'o, Hughes and Beardsley in their prime together........sigh
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Post by: DanDan on September 14, 2018, 05:23:05 PM
Joe Parkinson
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Post by: Cereal Killer on September 14, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
Raul..David Villa...Iniesta

van basten...Cruyff...

I know my Everton memory goes hazy on occasions and during certain eras, but I must've completely missed when we signed them!
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Post by: formerKHL on September 14, 2018, 05:29:06 PM
DOH...didn't read the OP right.....(what a tit!!)

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Post by: Toffee1 on September 14, 2018, 05:30:17 PM
Alex Young and the Holy Trinity of Kendall, Harvey and Ball, just so I could see them play live and not on old footage.
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Post by: gizzblue on September 14, 2018, 05:31:37 PM
Big Nev  all day .

Then Andrei .
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Post by: formerKHL on September 14, 2018, 05:44:16 PM
Alex Young and the Holy Trinity of Kendall, Harvey and Ball, just so I could see them play live and not on old footage.


couldn't begin to explain how beautiful they were...…..swimming in chocolate with naked virgins.....nah better....
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Post by: School of Science on September 14, 2018, 07:04:59 PM
We did have big Nev at his peak though, so you can't count him or Alan Ball (sigh ) for the same reason. Has to be Gascoigne, even better than Rooney at his peak.
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Post by: Tony Clifton on September 14, 2018, 07:29:52 PM
Gazza or Samuel Fucking Eto'o?  Can't decide.
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Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 14, 2018, 07:42:25 PM
This is Everton we could field a whole team of players we got too late. Richard Gough, Colin Todd, Nigel Martyn spring to mind as best in their position in their heyday yet still not our best option for this thread.
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Post by: gizzblue on September 14, 2018, 09:49:48 PM
We did have big Nev at his peak though, so you can't count him or Alan Ball (sigh ) for the same reason. Has to be Gascoigne, even better than Rooney at his peak.

Gazza ,Andrei ,Rooney, Ginola would all walk into this or most prem teams in their pomp .
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Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2018, 12:10:30 AM
A Lineker would be ok right now...Me old fellas 81 and he still rambles about Alex Young, usually after whisky.
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Post by: sam of the south on September 15, 2018, 12:57:37 AM
Out of those listed in the OP it has to be Gazza or Eto’o because they were truly world class.

Anyway, we had Rooney at his best; he was still an Everton player when he looked head and shoulders the best player in Europe at Euro 2004 ;)
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Post by: blue slug on September 15, 2018, 01:28:55 AM
Out of the players mentioned in op gazza all the way for me
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Post by: boothill on September 15, 2018, 02:25:43 AM
Gazza,  without doubt or hesitation,  best english midfielder ive ever seen
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Post by: boothill on September 15, 2018, 02:27:48 AM
Just thinking of an Everton team with Gazza, Ginola, Kanchelskis, Eto'o, Hughes and Beardsley in their prime together........sigh
They'd be shit without carsley protecting them 
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Post by: BlueForYou on September 15, 2018, 03:43:24 AM
1)Pat Jennings - should have signed him to replace Gordon West

2)Colin Todd - should have signed him when Tommy Wright retired

3)Keith Newton - brilliant for Blackburn before he signed for us; brilliant for England in the 1970 World Cup; brilliant for Burnley after they signed him from us; not so brilliant for us

4)Eric Dier - ideal alongside John Stones

5)John Stones - ideal alongside Eric Dier

6)Tony Kay - would have made the 1966 World Cup squad, if not the team

7)Steve McMahon - our youngest ever captain until a few weeks ago; I wonder if Tom Davies will win as many England caps?

8)Gareth Barry - signed ten years too late

9)Peter Beardsley - should have signed him in '85 instead of Lineker. No, as well as Lineker!

10)Wayne Rooney - by a street, by a mile, by about 400 games and by about 200 goals

11)Landon Donovan - should have been permanent

Subs:

12)Nigel Martyn - should have signed him to replace Big Nev

13)Archie Gemmill - the one that got away!

14)Ross Barkley - the one that didn't!!

15)Billy Kenny Jr - if only...............

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Post by: Mouse on September 15, 2018, 05:26:43 AM
For what we need today, Gazza without a doubt.
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Post by: Jamokachi on September 15, 2018, 11:13:48 AM
Can't believe I've just read Eric Dier.
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Post by: blue1948 on September 15, 2018, 11:14:54 AM

couldn't begin to explain how beautiful they were...…..swimming in chocolate with naked virgins.....nah better....

The only time I ever remember seeing the referee clap after a goal was for us scoring in that era .Don't remember the game but the ref was called Kevin ------- if my memory serves me .
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Post by: blue1948 on September 15, 2018, 11:18:58 AM
1)Pat Jennings - should have signed him to replace Gordon West

2)Colin Todd - should have signed him when Tommy Wright retired

3)Keith Newton - brilliant for Blackburn before he signed for us; brilliant for England in the 1970 World Cup; brilliant for Burnley after they signed him from us; not so brilliant for us

4)Eric Dier - ideal alongside John Stones

5)John Stones - ideal alongside Eric Dier

6)Tony Kay - would have made the 1966 World Cup squad, if not the team

7)Steve McMahon - our youngest ever captain until a few weeks ago; I wonder if Tom Davies will win as many England caps?

8)Gareth Barry - signed ten years too late

9)Peter Beardsley - should have signed him in '85 instead of Lineker. No, as well as Lineker!

10)Wayne Rooney - by a street, by a mile, by about 400 games and by about 200 goals

11)Landon Donovan - should have been permanent

Subs:

12)Nigel Martyn - should have signed him to replace Big Nev

13)Archie Gemmill - the one that got away!

14)Ross Barkley - the one that didn't!!

15)Billy Kenny Jr - if only...............


Good post although it seems you can't count to one ,until I read  Landon Donovan .
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Post by: BlueForYou on September 15, 2018, 12:07:25 PM
One?

Wayne Rooney - by a street, by a mile, by about 400 games and by about 200 goals

Should keep the Eric Dier haters happy!
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Post by: boothill on September 15, 2018, 01:08:11 PM
The pat jennings shout.  I remember it caused murder  on quiz night.  Who is evertons most capped player the master asked.  Pat jennings the master gave as the answer,  coz he got his millionth or summit cap for NI while nevs back up.
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Post by: BlueForYou on September 15, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
Yep - 1986 World Cup, aged 41

Special mention: Bobby Collins

Slipped through the net after signing him as a teenager, then we bought him too late and then sold him too soon (work that out!)

Should have been one of our one club greats - great he was and greater in his hey day
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Post by: Toddacelli on September 15, 2018, 02:18:24 PM
They'd be shit without carsley protecting them 

Are you @TheRam (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1602) in disguise? 😂
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Post by: eugene on September 15, 2018, 02:29:48 PM
I was devastated when Oliver dacourt left us, now he just got better
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Post by: School of Science on September 15, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
I know not a lot of people won't agree with this on here but.....Manny Fernandes, very exciting player to watch, so much potential, wish we could have kept him, the rat  :)
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Post by: BlueForYou on September 15, 2018, 03:23:40 PM
File those two with Slaven Bilic - quality players
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Post by: Toffee1 on September 15, 2018, 03:37:35 PM
I know not a lot of people won't agree with this on here but.....Manny Fernandes, very exciting player to watch, so much potential, wish we could have kept him, the rat  :)

What could have been - the goal against Utd was a lovely goal, However, he took another path.

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Post by: Paddockoldie on September 15, 2018, 03:42:45 PM
Bob Latchford...
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Post by: Mac934 on September 15, 2018, 04:22:32 PM
Marco Matterazzi, bought to soon, Sold too soon.
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Post by: BlueForYou on September 15, 2018, 04:42:31 PM
Latch comes under "Who we had playing for us in their hey day"

Was his one season for us, the hey day for Lineker?

When was Gascoigne's hey day, before or after the 1991 FA Cup Final?
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Post by: Jacko4468 on September 15, 2018, 05:35:34 PM
Gazza without a doubt, by far the best English midfielder of his generation. And he is what we need in our current side
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Post by: Jacko4468 on September 15, 2018, 05:36:03 PM
Marco Matterazzi, bought to soon, Sold too soon.
and Dacourt
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Post by: Jacko4468 on September 15, 2018, 05:39:46 PM
Good post although it seems you can't count to one ,until I read  Landon Donovan . 
Can’t believe he picked Jennings and Martyn in front of southall, I can understand Jennings and Martyn was an excellent keeper but he was no Neville southall
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Post by: BlueForYou on September 15, 2018, 06:08:27 PM
Oh dear!

Read the subject matter

Jennings and Martyn in front of Nev and Westy - as if!
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Post by: Waltzer on September 16, 2018, 03:32:51 AM
There was a debate about Gazza on the radio today and the argument put forward was Gazza career was basically 2 years.  Before the world cup and shortly after,  he messed up his knee and was never the same. People remember his goal against Scotland,  as it was great,  but was he really all that? He did it in Scotland when it was a 2 horse race and the rest were walk overs. I'd rather have Kanchelskis  any day of the week over Gazza
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Post by: eugene on September 16, 2018, 03:36:40 AM
There was a debate about Gazza on the radio today and the argument put forward was Gazza career was basically 2 years.  Before the world cup and shortly after,  he messed up his knee and was never the same. People remember his goal against Scotland,  as it was great,  but was he really all that? He did it in Scotland when it was a 2 horse race and the rest were walk overs. I'd rather have Kanchelskis  any day of the week over Gazza
Just remember that goal he scored at Goodison mesmerising
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Post by: Waltzer on September 16, 2018, 03:43:26 AM
Just remember that goal he scored at Goodison mesmerising
I'm not saying he didn't or that he wasn't good,  but it was moments of genius,  nothing consistent over a sustained period top put him In the same category as others. Although In fairness this thread relates to players in their prime so he was the dogs for those few years pre injury
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Post by: Toffee1 on September 16, 2018, 03:54:42 AM
I'm not saying he didn't or that he wasn't good,  but it was moments of genius,  nothing consistent over a sustained period top put him In the same category as others. Although In fairness this thread relates to players in their prime so he was the dogs for those few years pre injury

Still believe that if he had gone to Man Utd instead of Spurs, that his career would been better with Ferguson as his manager.
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Post by: TheRam on September 16, 2018, 04:02:57 AM
Would’ve liked Louis Saha right in his prime injury free.

Also the John Stones we see now playing for England and Man City.

If we got Nigel Martyn at the first time of trying as well things could’ve been a lot different.
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Post by: Waltzer on September 16, 2018, 04:18:18 AM
Still believe that if he had gone to Man Utd instead of Spurs, that his career would been better with Ferguson as his manager.
Would've been interesting,  although I think he was a flawed character and destined to implode. I didn't realise until today that when he did his ACL he went put on the lash during recovery,  fell over and did it again!!
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Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 16, 2018, 06:07:52 AM
Got to be Gaza really. I would have liked Lineker for longer too.
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Post by: sam of the south on September 16, 2018, 06:27:26 AM
There was a debate about Gazza on the radio today and the argument put forward was Gazza career was basically 2 years.  Before the world cup and shortly after,  he messed up his knee and was never the same. People remember his goal against Scotland,  as it was great,  but was he really all that? He did it in Scotland when it was a 2 horse race and the rest were walk overs. I'd rather have Kanchelskis  any day of the week over Gazza

It was no coincidence that before getting to this years semi-final, England’s previous best showings since 1966 came with Gascoigne in the side in 1990 and 1996.

He had so much talent. His passing range, ball retention, movement, and dribbling were all top class.

Plus, his midfield general role away to Italy that qualified England for France ‘98 was one of the most disciplined and methodical performances I’ve ever seen from an England player, but then Hoddle sold him out by omitting him from his final squad.

And in between all that he single handedly drove Spurs to the FA Cup final in ‘91 with some of the most exhilarating displays and goals I’ve had the pleasure to witness.

So yeah, his implosion in that final did diminish his star hugely, but he still shone brighter than any English player on the international scene in the next six/seven years following that incident. 
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Post by: blargins on September 16, 2018, 08:29:12 AM
That 1990 England side was the best England team I’ve ever seen. That was peak Gazza. Him and Platt were the driving force of that team. If they’d have beaten Germany they would have easily have taken the Argies out too.
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Post by: Silas on September 16, 2018, 01:21:35 PM
Gazza without question next would be Whiteside for me. Thought he was going to be superb
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Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 16, 2018, 06:40:04 PM
I wonder if we made a serious attempt to sign Gazza when he left Newcastle. It was 1988, Kendall had left and in Harvey's first season we had finished fourth, twenty points behind the champions and below Forest and Man U.
I don't remember any stories linking us with him. Anyone any memories or know of any attempts by us to sign him?
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Post by: BlueForYou on September 16, 2018, 07:48:10 PM
No attempts or interest from us to sign him

(Remarkably) Gascoigne hadn't played for England before his 1988 transfer to Spurs


(Transfers we missed out on: Colin Stein, 1968; Kenny Dalglish, 1969; Archie Gemmill, 1970; Ian Storey-Moore, 1972; Peter Shilton, 1974 & 1977)











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Post by: mikey_blue on October 10, 2018, 05:37:54 AM
Bit of an odd one, but I think a prime Saha would be great in this team.
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Post by: Gash on October 10, 2018, 05:42:25 AM
Bit of an odd one, but I think a prime Saha would be great in this team.

Thought Saha was fantastic, even before he joined us. It was just a shame his hamstrings could only manage about 4 games in a row before needing about 8 weeks off. I suppose without his injuries we'd probably never have signed him.

I don't think he knows himself if he was left or right footed he was so good with either one.
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Post by: brap2 on October 10, 2018, 06:01:11 AM
What a baller Saha was. Every now and again you’d just get a world class performance out of him.
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Post by: Paddockoldie on October 10, 2018, 01:47:31 PM
I still think his biggest weakness was in his head when it came to being injured. Psychological weakness rather.than actual injury, he just believed he was a lot of the time. Brilliant striker on his well days.
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Post by: brap2 on October 10, 2018, 01:55:11 PM
Arteta in his prime next to gueye and we’d win the fucking lot imo