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Title: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 24, 2018, 10:51:05 PM
So, we're shy upfront and could do with a proven striker/forward who will get us goals... Tosun could still prove himself but Niasse isn't going to take us very far and DCL flatters at times. So, who do we realistically go for?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Free Agent on September 24, 2018, 10:52:06 PM
Rashford please
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2018, 10:59:26 PM
Marega
Morata
Mariano
Simeone
Andre silva
Maxi Gomez
Balotelli
Plea

Just throwing some names out there.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: School of Science on September 24, 2018, 11:05:25 PM
Might have missed a trick with Raul Jiminez at Wolves, looks very useful. Mitrovic finding his feet and the net at Fulham, tbh looked shite at Newcastle.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: D15TIN on September 24, 2018, 11:10:25 PM
Might have missed a trick with Raul Jiminez at Wolves, looks very useful. Mitrovic finding his feet and the net at Fulham, tbh looked shite at Newcastle.
Need to be looking at better than those 2
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 24, 2018, 11:14:18 PM
just can't see anyone coming in , not in January anyway,   
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on September 24, 2018, 11:15:22 PM
Batshuayi is achievable, although id love us to get Icardi who is a lot less achievable, but you never know!!?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: gizzblue on September 24, 2018, 11:29:40 PM
Is Bellotti still available ...rate him highly .
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 24, 2018, 11:33:52 PM
Is Bellotti still available ...rate him highly .

Had a bad knee injury didnít he. Not heard much since, but feel like weíve had our fill of serious knee injuries for a lifetime.

I do rate him tho. Can score from his own bathtub on pes.

I really donít know about strikers, but I would assume they recognise we havenít got any kind of top 6 firepower at the club at the moment.

Iíd also be very happy to replace the ghost of Walcott but I donít expect that in January. Imagine us with a richarlison on either side.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on September 25, 2018, 12:08:41 AM
Julian Brandt - alongside Richarlison would be exciting
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 25, 2018, 12:46:20 AM
It's a no to Balotelli for me. He's trouble and a fire risk. Do we go for a shorter term solution such as Dzeko et al and give the likes of DCL time or go for a longer solution? Would like Rashford but he'd only do a loan if at all. What you want and who wants you is the problem I guess.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on September 25, 2018, 01:01:28 AM
We should fix our midfield first.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on September 25, 2018, 01:17:29 AM
That'll be Doucoure and Neves
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2018, 03:19:34 AM
That'll be Doucoure and Neves

Etienne Capoue has been better than Doucoure this season (not that I'm suggesting buying him), and Neves is going straight to a big club from Wolves imo.

We really should've got Seri for £25m. That looks more and more like an amazing deal.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2018, 03:22:27 AM
Willian Jose

Or Aspas
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 25, 2018, 03:34:40 AM
Maxi Gomez, Simeone or Breel Embolo.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 25, 2018, 03:54:46 AM
Let's give most from the Spanish league a swerve for starters, as regularly proven, the majority of them aren't cut out for the pace and physicality of the Prem
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 25, 2018, 03:56:02 AM
Willian Jose

Or Aspas

I assume you've thrown Aspas in there just to piss off the shite? Although I'd expect them to be in stitches if we wanked 30m+ on him
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 25, 2018, 03:56:59 AM
I assume you've thrown Aspas in there just to piss off the shite? Although I'd expect them to be in stitches if we wanked 30m+ on him

Very, very good player.

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Hawkandro on September 25, 2018, 06:55:38 PM
Marega would be my number one choice. Looks powerful and knows where the goal is.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 25, 2018, 07:09:26 PM
If Batshuayi were achievable, then I've no earthly idea why he's not already here.  Lord knows we need him, and have for some time.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on September 25, 2018, 07:17:06 PM
It's all well and good us suggesting who we should go for, attracting them to come here is a whole new ball game, most of the top strikers will want champions league footy, and we're about as far away as ever from that. Just gotta hope Brands can work a bit of magic and find a us a gem.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Juanito on September 25, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Julian Brandt - alongside Richarlison would be exciting

Brandt on the left and Richarlison through the middle?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 25, 2018, 07:37:34 PM
Even with hindsight it's difficult. I can't think of a striker that's moved clubs in the last three years that we could have realistically attracted who would have made us significantly better.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: formerKHL on September 25, 2018, 07:52:45 PM
It's all well and good us suggesting who we should go for, attracting them to come here is a whole new ball game, most of the top strikers will want champions league footy, and we're about as far away as ever from that. Just gotta hope Brands can work a bit of magic and find a us a gem.

This.....and champions league money...but that shouldn't be an issue apparently..
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Hawkandro on September 25, 2018, 08:55:24 PM
It's all well and good us suggesting who we should go for, attracting them to come here is a whole new ball game, most of the top strikers will want champions league footy, and we're about as far away as ever from that. Just gotta hope Brands can work a bit of magic and find a us a gem.

Dolberg? Not kicked on as well as some imagined, could do with a change of scenery. Main issue being, the Dutch league and how he may find the PL.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Gary1878 on September 25, 2018, 10:23:58 PM
To break into the top 6, we need to think outside the box. The below is thinking about the next 5 years rather than the next few months, but it's what my strategy would look like.

I think we need a new style of front player. I think the game as a whole will adapt again in terms of formation and tactics, and we won't see the traditional number 9 used much in future at the top sides, unless they have a very special player e.g. Kane, Aguero.

If you think about the way Liverpool play, this is the way Everton need to look to setup in the absence of being able to spend £100m and no Champions League. It also suits Marco Silva's style, and could pave the way for Richarlison to play as the central man up top. To do this though, you need to "replace" him with another wide player, which we potentially already have in Bernard/Lookman.

Playing with a rotating 3 up top will also be better on squad numbers, making us more adaptable and less reliant on one man.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 25, 2018, 10:49:53 PM
Josef Martinez from Atalanta could be an intriguing one.

Smashing the goals in the MLS but has a decent pedigree behind him.

All the top clubs are having a look.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on September 25, 2018, 11:28:17 PM
Yes, Juanito - Brandt on the left and Richarlison through the middle (Walcott on the right)
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 25, 2018, 11:53:05 PM
Even with hindsight it's difficult. I can't think of a striker that's moved clubs in the last three years that we could have realistically attracted who would have made us significantly better.

Iheanacho, Raul Jimenez, Mitrovic - theyíre all at Prem clubs and are upgrades on what we have.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 25, 2018, 11:58:42 PM
Iheanacho, Raul Jimenez, Mitrovic - theyíre all at Prem clubs and are upgrades on what we have.

Nah, theyíre not making us significantly better.

I think theyíre all quite poor tbh.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Silas on September 26, 2018, 12:18:02 AM
Mitrovic is average as shit.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 26, 2018, 12:18:36 AM
Iheanacho, Raul Jimenez, Mitrovic - theyíre all at Prem clubs and are upgrades on what we have.

I wouldn't think signing any of them would solve our striker problem.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 26, 2018, 12:20:32 AM
Iheanacho, Raul Jimenez, Mitrovic - theyíre all at Prem clubs and are upgrades on what we have.

 :Sick:

Not sure any of them have done anything more than Tosun
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: D15TIN on September 26, 2018, 12:38:32 AM
Rashford probably the only one so far who I think could improve us

Vardy maybe for a short time, but well into his 30s now, so it's a no from me, unless a small fee
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2018, 12:44:49 AM
All of them are better than Tosun, Mitrovic and Iheanacho especially (not sure about Jimenez but his all round game seems good, finishing wobbly).

Mitro is on 5 prem goals, just over 4 npxg for this season, iheanacho across his prem career has just over 15 npxg- 16 prem goals.

Both quality young players.

Sure, would prefer a £45m 20 goal a year man...but generally outside the top 6 nobody really has one, so finding a good young striker who can do a bit of everything and consistently finish his chances in the way those two do are as good as you can do really.

Canít stress enough how hard it will be to Ďreplace lukakuí, took us about 20 years to get him!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on September 26, 2018, 01:05:56 AM
We've replaced him, Richarlison will get the goals

We don't need a striker, we need someone to support our striker
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: School of Science on September 26, 2018, 02:13:40 AM
Mitrovic is average as shit.

He was at Newcastle, but seems to have got the bit between his teeth at Fulham.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on September 26, 2018, 03:28:56 AM
Sanchez should be available in January

Remember him?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 26, 2018, 01:38:40 PM
What about that Das Bos fella we were linked with? Big target man and scores goals.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 26, 2018, 02:32:20 PM
What about that Das Bos fella we were linked with? Big target man and scores goals.
Bit shit tho ain't he
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 26, 2018, 02:41:40 PM
All of them are better than Tosun, Mitrovic and Iheanacho especially (not sure about Jimenez but his all round game seems good, finishing wobbly).

Mitro is on 5 prem goals, just over 4 npxg for this season, iheanacho across his prem career has just over 15 npxg- 16 prem goals.

Both quality young players.

Sure, would prefer a £45m 20 goal a year man...but generally outside the top 6 nobody really has one, so finding a good young striker who can do a bit of everything and consistently finish his chances in the way those two do are as good as you can do really.

Canít stress enough how hard it will be to Ďreplace lukakuí, took us about 20 years to get him!

Problem with just relying on stats though. Mitrovic is a target man and not very mobile, and completely the wrong kind of player to work in our system imo. Iheanacho I think is even worse. Technically very poor, all left foot and his left foot's not that good. Jiminez looks decent but not transformative enough to justify spending a fair bit of money on.

We got Richarlison, who probably should be at a Top 6 club based on his ability and potential, so I don't see any issue with going big for a striker as well. I'd be hugely disappointed if any of your suggestions were being considered by Silva/Brands. We can do better.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2018, 02:59:32 PM
Problem with just relying on stats though. Mitrovic is a target man and not very mobile, and completely the wrong kind of player to work in our system imo. Iheanacho I think is even worse. Technically very poor, all left foot and his left foot's not that good. Jiminez looks decent but not transformative enough to justify spending a fair bit of money on.

We got Richarlison, who probably should be at a Top 6 club based on his ability and potential, so I don't see any issue with going big for a striker as well. I'd be hugely disappointed if any of your suggestions were being considered by Silva/Brands. We can do better.

Yeah I think the only one Iíd actually want is Iheanacho, although mitro is becoming my new Rondon, but he actually scores.

Think I was just playing devils advocate really.

Ultimately - we could get a new £30-£50m striker (eg like I say zaha) but if we donít buy some quality for the middle of the pitch, the problems we have are going to remain.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 26, 2018, 03:32:48 PM
Never got the big deal on ineacho and mitorovic would have been ace for us about 10 years ago, alongside straqularisi
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
Both extremely good young players but not going to argue it like.

The fact we never bought iheanacho and chose to just not buy anyone will continue to annoy me forever.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on September 26, 2018, 03:38:13 PM
Iheanacho is piss poor, struggles to get into the Leicester team
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 26, 2018, 03:44:02 PM
Both extremely good young players but not going to argue it like.

The fact we never bought iheanacho and chose to just not buy anyone will continue to annoy me forever.

Hes been shit for Leicester.

Donít know what youíre seeing in him.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2018, 03:47:32 PM
Hes been shit for Leicester.

Donít know what youíre seeing in him.

Needs a full year of prem football but if he did heíd get 15 goals + imo
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2018, 04:00:55 PM
Josef Martinez from Atalanta could be an intriguing one.

Smashing the goals in the MLS but has a decent pedigree behind him.

All the top clubs are having a look.

No idea who this geezer is but 100% this is the type of deal we have a chance at.

Someone who isn't a guaranteed starter at the top 6 and we can sell the idea to them - come play regularly with us, prove yourself and you have a realistic crack at CL with us or someone else in 2-3 years.

It pains me to say it but there are so many better options than us for a striker right now because we do not look like getting into CL positions. Even though we can probably match CL prices with most clubs. Until we do get in there or look convincingly like we are about to get in there - we'll have to try and unearth something special that no-one else really wants yet.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2018, 04:03:07 PM
Iheanacho, Raul Jimenez, Mitrovic - theyíre all at Prem clubs and are upgrades on what we have.

Mitrovic? An upgrade? I'm not so sure.

To me he looks like one of those strikers who is heavily reliant on how the rest of the team is set up. That's why some strikers are fire for one club and ice for another. I really don't have the confidence that we would set him up for success here.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on September 26, 2018, 04:05:26 PM
For Mitrovic see Jelavic
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2018, 04:06:30 PM
Yeah I think the only one Iíd actually want is Iheanacho, although mitro is becoming my new Rondon, but he actually scores.

Think I was just playing devils advocate really.

Ultimately - we could get a new £30-£50m striker (eg like I say zaha) but if we donít buy some quality for the middle of the pitch, the problems we have are going to remain.

Zaha is the first name in this thread that I think is both achievable and would also improve us. Get the cheque writ Mosh!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on September 26, 2018, 04:08:27 PM
Zaha is the first name in this thread that I think is both achievable and would also improve us. Get the cheque writ Mosh!

Zaha would be 50+ million, I very much doubt we would go there.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 26, 2018, 04:10:20 PM
Zaha's not a striker.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2018, 04:11:21 PM
Zaha would be 50+ million, I very much doubt we would go there.

Going rate mate.

He's tried at Man U and bombed so he is probably realistic about going to a top, top side but Palace to Everton? Yeah he could have a piece of that and is still young enough to have time to force a move to a top, top club in a few years.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2018, 04:12:20 PM
Zaha's not a striker.

But as part of a front three with Richarlison you would give the opposition so much to think about that there would probably even be space for Tosun to bag a few.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 26, 2018, 04:16:42 PM
But as part of a front three with Richarlison you would give the opposition so much to think about that there would probably even be space for Tosun to bag a few.

Yeah, he's a superb player and would improve us massively imo. But I don't think wide forward is a massive priority with Walcott, Richarlison, Bernard and Lookman around. Need some quality through the middle of the team in attack and midfield.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2018, 04:39:50 PM
Yeah, he's a superb player and would improve us massively imo. But I don't think wide forward is a massive priority with Walcott, Richarlison, Bernard and Lookman around. Need some quality through the middle of the team in attack and midfield.

Whilst I agree sorting out the midfield is a big priority right now, goals win games. And as good as they are, I would back Zaha to score more goals than all of them put together, minus Richarlison, obviously.

(and this is the striker thread)
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 26, 2018, 04:49:15 PM
Whilst I agree sorting out the midfield is a big priority right now, goals win games. And as good as they are, I would back Zaha to score more goals than all of them put together, minus Richarlison, obviously.

(and this is the striker thread)

Yeah, that's why I'm saying we need some quality 'through the middle of the team' (ie striker, rather than wide forward).

But I agree he's an excellent player who we should go for, if we can.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Hawkandro on September 26, 2018, 05:02:32 PM
The fact we never bought iheanacho and chose to just not buy anyone will continue to annoy me forever.

City wanted a buy-back clause and we didn't, IIRC.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2018, 05:04:53 PM
City wanted a buy-back clause and we didn't, IIRC.

Wonder why? Crap isnít he lads?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 26, 2018, 05:06:45 PM
Wonder why? Crap isnít he lads?

Just arse-covering, in case he improves exponentially (which he'd need to, to even get near the City bench), and City end up looking like Chelsea with De Bruyne, Lukaku and Salah.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 26, 2018, 05:29:58 PM
Wonder why? Crap isnít he lads?

Tosun has scored more premier league goals than him over the last two seasons and he didnít arrive until January.

He is actually shite.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2018, 05:36:11 PM
Just arse-covering, in case he improves exponentially (which he'd need to, to even get near the City bench), and City end up looking like Chelsea with De Bruyne, Lukaku and Salah.

I know I know, just playing. I do rate him though but I can understand why others donít. Same for Mitro.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 26, 2018, 05:38:19 PM
I know I know, just playing. I do rate him though but I can understand why others donít. Same for Mitro.

I rate Mitrovic, but don't really want us to go with a static target man, because we'll end up playing longer, and just slinging hopeful crosses into the box. Also, he does seem a bit of a loon.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: blue1948 on September 26, 2018, 05:54:14 PM
I think we will see a bit of a change in January as the staff will have a decent look and hopefully the mercenaries will be gone .We want young up and coming players who need us more than we need them -hungry as fuck ,finding them is not my job . I suspect M & M are already on it and will give us all a late Chrimbo present .
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2018, 05:57:42 PM
Tosun has scored more premier league goals than him over the last two seasons and he didn’t arrive until January.

He is actually shite.

Tosun played ~1400 mins and got 5 goals 2 assists, absolute (combined) xg of ~4.10

Iheanacho played ~1100 mins and got 4 goals 5 assists, absolute xg 5.53

He’s younger, he’s quicker, he cost less and he can play in a wider range of positions. He takes more shots and in better positions. If you offered me a swap today I’d bite your hand off.

but that’s academic isn’t it really.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 26, 2018, 06:09:48 PM
No idea who this geezer is but 100% this is the type of deal we have a chance at.

Someone who isn't a guaranteed starter at the top 6 and we can sell the idea to them - come play regularly with us, prove yourself and you have a realistic crack at CL with us or someone else in 2-3 years.

It pains me to say it but there are so many better options than us for a striker right now because we do not look like getting into CL positions. Even though we can probably match CL prices with most clubs. Until we do get in there or look convincingly like we are about to get in there - we'll have to try and unearth something special that no-one else really wants yet.

Venezuelan international, 5'7" or 5'8" depending on the source, poacher who plays for Atlanta United in MLS. Seriously impressive season with 30 goals in 30 matches - a true 1 in 1 - now owning the league season scoring record. Had 17 in 19 in 2017 with an injury taking about a third of his season. Gets more headed goals than you would expect. Rather Aguero-like in his movement and general style of play, but a very (very) big level-of-league warning applies here.

As cautious as I would be about him, he's probably a decent style fit. As long as there's a supply into and around the box, he's been effective. I suspect he'd take a league-record (or near that) fee to get him out of MLS, but that was only £10.3M rising to £16.7M for Alphonso Davies from Bayern. For that fee range, any player will have questions--his would be one of competition.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Shogun on September 26, 2018, 06:51:57 PM
Luis Muriel anyone?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on September 26, 2018, 06:56:54 PM
Whilst I agree sorting out the midfield is a big priority right now, goals win games.

You need chances to score goals.

Teams that control the game and pass the ball forward effectively from midfield tend to create more (and better) chances than ones that donít.

If you canít move the ball forward effectively from midfield, youíre relying heavily on individual skill and opposition mistakes to create good opportunities and both of those things are highly variable from match to match.

Our current forward options would be fine if we created more decent chances. Fuck signing another fancy forward option before we sort the real problem.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 26, 2018, 06:59:37 PM
We're creating plenty of chances aren't we?

Maybe the numbers tell a different story?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: GLewis on September 26, 2018, 07:09:38 PM
We're creating plenty of chances aren't we?

Maybe the numbers tell a different story?

Should have scored more in the last 2 games for sure.

Minimal chances vs Huddersfield Iíd say though.

Also not too many chances through the middle though (acknowledging that weíre getting it wide a lot).

If weíre still missing loads of easy chances come Jan then a striker may be more preferable than a CM.

But for tactical balance Iíd rather sort out midfield.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2018, 07:21:09 PM
We're creating plenty of chances aren't we?

Maybe the numbers tell a different story?

No not really, 15th for XG in the prem, just about above West Ham. You could consider that the chances created really I think. Or 14th for ‘shots’.

Plus the majority of our chances are from set pieces which is a whole other argument (not controlling games and relying on whipping in good deliveries from set pieces).

It’s very good to be a team good at set pieces, but very bad to be a team that relies on them.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheTone on September 26, 2018, 07:33:01 PM
we could do with 2 of them, also can we have a goal scoring centre midfielder too, actually any centre midfielder who can hit the target and doesn't look like he's going to shank and duff it any time he has a shot, sound
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on September 26, 2018, 09:34:42 PM
We're below average in terms of chance creation, probably since so much of what we create comes from wide areas or set plays. To improve significantly in attack, we need to be better with the ball through the middle of the park.

Bonus: Being able to control the ball in midfield will also help us defensively.

Basically, fixing the midfield will fix most of what's wrong with this side.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2018, 09:57:16 PM
It would even help get the most out of Gylfi - want to talk midfielders with end product in front of goal there’s your man! He just lacks locomotion and ball progression. Get someone who can do that for him and he’s got great technique if you get him in the right areas.

He’s essentially an expensive Cahill or not as good Alli.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2018, 10:09:50 PM
You need chances to score goals.

Teams that control the game and pass the ball forward effectively from midfield tend to create more (and better) chances than ones that donít.

If you canít move the ball forward effectively from midfield, youíre relying heavily on individual skill and opposition mistakes to create good opportunities and both of those things are highly variable from match to match.

Our current forward options would be fine if we created more decent chances. Fuck signing another fancy forward option before we sort the real problem.

As I said to previous postewr - I agree. But this is the 'What striker do we go for?' thread.

You can't just say 'fuck a striker we need a midfield' to every post or there is no discussion to be had.

What I see a big lack of in the midfield is those balls into the front players that actually give them a chance of converting. In fact, forward passing of any kind would be welcome from DM to CM to AM  because I really don't think we are finding the forwards at the moment unless it is coming from the flanks - hence Richarlison and Walcott having some joy and Tosun being so underwhelming - because there is nothing being created centrally for him.

Perhaps there is a type of striker that would fit into and be more effective with what we have already? Perhaps we need a midfield thread or a general new signings thread as well?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Morta75 on September 27, 2018, 02:12:47 AM
If we want's too look like we mean buisness we should splash the cash on proven striker...  Big wage to temp. proven striker to join.
Icardi, GRIEZMANN, Dybala, Jesus... only crazy wage will take this kind of players to Goodison park...
If we look to build for it to happen  in next 3-6 years
Rashford, Martial, Belotti, Zaha, Werner is good prospect in my opinion.
If we don't mean buisness then we will end up with the likes off,
Deeney, Vardy, King, Dzeko, Jose,

Timo Werner is maybe the most likely to get in my opinion...
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 27, 2018, 03:10:22 AM
Maybe if we say Lookman + £20-£30m for Werner..
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 27, 2018, 03:16:11 AM
Maybe if we say Lookman + £20-£30m for Werner..

Now you're talking.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 27, 2018, 03:17:44 AM
Have a little dabble at Poulsen as well.

Like DCL on steds him.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on September 27, 2018, 03:48:17 AM
My little boy would probably do an actual wee if we signed Griezmann, he loves him.

Timo Werner would suit the style of play that we're trying to achieve and would be a huge signing for us, would need to really sell it to him though. Maybe be slightly easier to do a deal if they're no longer in the Europa by January.

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: School of Science on September 27, 2018, 03:54:48 AM
Well after tonight and after extensive scouting, I've decided on Hazard.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Juanito on September 27, 2018, 11:03:26 PM
Venezuelan international, 5'7" or 5'8" depending on the source, poacher who plays for Atlanta United in MLS. Seriously impressive season with 30 goals in 30 matches - a true 1 in 1 - now owning the league season scoring record. Had 17 in 19 in 2017 with an injury taking about a third of his season. Gets more headed goals than you would expect. Rather Aguero-like in his movement and general style of play, but a very (very) big level-of-league warning applies here.

As cautious as I would be about him, he's probably a decent style fit. As long as there's a supply into and around the box, he's been effective. I suspect he'd take a league-record (or near that) fee to get him out of MLS, but that was only £10.3M rising to £16.7M for Alphonso Davies from Bayern. For that fee range, any player will have questions--his would be one of competition.

He could be our Joe Max Moore
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 28, 2018, 12:18:49 AM
Genoa signed a polish striker for 4.5mil in the summer whoís gone on to score 6 goals in 6 league games, as well as scoring four in a cup game.

May well be a flash in the pan , but all the talk is heís going to be a very good striker.

Just goes to show the talent is out there if you look in the right places.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on September 28, 2018, 01:40:41 AM
I'm in for Werner - and offloading Lookman

For less than £10m, Morelos at Rangers - although a bit of a hot head, but Mina might help him

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 28, 2018, 01:59:52 PM
Any decent out and out striker at any age will do for now. Iím sick of seeing Niasseís name in the squad.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Hawkandro on September 28, 2018, 02:09:40 PM
Sadly I think there are two chances of us signing Werner; slim and none. As soon as he is made available, we will be at the back of the queue.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on September 28, 2018, 03:15:05 PM
I signed Werner on Fifa18, scored 36 in his first season

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: School of Science on September 28, 2018, 03:21:03 PM
I signed Werner on Fifa18, scored 36 in his first season



I know where were going if we sack Silva now pal  ;)
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on September 28, 2018, 03:26:05 PM
I know where were going if we sack Silva now pal  ;)

Couldn't afford me
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: stirlingblue on September 29, 2018, 02:44:05 AM
The one thing that we absolutely must avoid is some sort of slow striker, pace puts so much fear into centre backs
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Morta75 on September 29, 2018, 02:52:51 AM
Sadly I think there are two chances of us signing Werner; slim and none. As soon as he is made available, we will be at the back of the queue.
I agree that the chances are slim. But it's all about the money. Big wages and a real plan could tempt anybody to come in my opinion, but first off all its all about the money... Moshri show me the money!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 29, 2018, 01:52:24 PM
Can't knock Moshiri for putting the money up last window, especially after how much was mostly wasted pre Brands/Silva, fair play to him.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toffee1 on September 29, 2018, 03:21:56 PM
The one thing that we absolutely must avoid is some sort of slow striker, pace puts so much fear into centre backs

If he could also be a striker who can defend from the front - the 'press game' that Silva likes will be more effective.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 29, 2018, 04:02:56 PM
Genoa signed a polish striker for 4.5mil in the summer whoís gone on to score 6 goals in 6 league games, as well as scoring four in a cup game.

May well be a flash in the pan , but all the talk is heís going to be a very good striker.

Just goes to show the talent is out there if you look in the right places.

You need a longer track record than that. Remember when everyone thought we'd missed a trick with Manolo Gabbiadini.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 29, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
You need a longer track record than that. Remember when everyone thought we'd missed a trick with Manolo Gabbiadini.

Including Lukaku!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 29, 2018, 04:14:02 PM
Including Lukaku!

Same Lukaku that had scored twenty odd goals for West Brom in the Premier League?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: blargins on September 29, 2018, 04:14:50 PM
The one thing that we absolutely must avoid is some sort of slow striker, pace puts so much fear into centre backs
Unless your names DCL.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on September 29, 2018, 04:20:56 PM
Same Lukaku that had scored twenty odd goals for West Brom in the Premier League?

No I mean lukaku came out and made a comment about us not signing players who ‘right now are scoring in the premier league’ widely thought to be Manolo Gabbiadini
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 29, 2018, 04:22:25 PM
No I mean lukaku came out and made a comment about us not signing players who Ďright now are scoring in the premier leagueí widely thought to be Manila Gabbiadini

Oh sorry. Didn't see that quote.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Tony Clifton on September 30, 2018, 06:58:26 PM
Jolson Lescott suggesting Troy Deeney as Lukaku replacement...

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/troy-deeney-could-romelu-lukaku-15216036
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 30, 2018, 07:04:49 PM
Jolson Lescott suggesting Troy Deeney as Lukaku replacement...

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/troy-deeney-could-romelu-lukaku-15216036


It's obvious, isn't it? They're practically the same player.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Tony Clifton on September 30, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
 :snigger:
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 30, 2018, 07:17:34 PM
I don't think we should buy him for a second, but I do think Deeney is a good, underrated player who doesn't get the credit he deserves.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 30, 2018, 07:43:39 PM
Deeney has the kind of attitude and spirit I think we lack.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on September 30, 2018, 11:35:23 PM
I think Troy deeney is a massive try hard bellend.

Give the hardman act a rest for one day mate.

Good player though. Very good player.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on September 30, 2018, 11:43:32 PM
Deeney is very very average, there's a reason why he's still at Watford
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 01, 2018, 01:40:18 AM
He's the wrong side of 30... Decent but not gonna make us better over time.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Ramjam on October 01, 2018, 06:45:47 AM
He would have been perfect here 5 years ago but not now
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TommyD_08 on October 01, 2018, 10:34:29 AM
Proper enigma for me Deeney.

5 goals in 29 prem games last year. Pretty sure he went nearly 30 games without scoring from open play (before he scored against us).

Say what you want about the rest of his game, but I reckon DCL and Cenk do similar things and theyíre not good enough for a lot on here.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 01, 2018, 12:25:09 PM
Are we seriously discussing Troy Deeney? Fuck right off

Not now, not in the past, not fucking ever
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2018, 12:32:39 PM
Are we seriously discussing Troy Deeney? Fuck right off

Not now, not in the past, not fucking ever


No.

Just people offering general opinions on him. Nobody wants to sign him.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2018, 04:52:37 PM
Unless your names DCL.

Dubious as the decision was, he showed with the penalty that he won what pace can get you.

It was a bit of a nothing chance, but because heís quick the defender panics and suddenly we have a penalty
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2018, 05:10:15 PM
Dubious as the decision was, he showed with the penalty that he won what pace can get you.

It was a bit of a nothing chance, but because heís quick the defender panics and suddenly we have a penalty

Maybe get a couple of goals a season from chasing lost causes. His pace is worth very little without quality movement.
His talents seem to be workrate and pace. We need someone who's good at football too.
He's a most astetic less productive Niasse
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2018, 05:23:04 PM
With his pace I would expect DCL to be constantly on the shoulder of the last defender, on the half turn, pointing to where the ball should be played 20 yards ahead of him to run on to, like Lukaku often did. Granted half the time the ball was never on for Lukaku but the intent was always there to get in on goal. It's the lack of this that gives rise to people saying CL isn't a natural goalscorer, as he's often on the periphery of the game, occasionally breaking free down the channels but never really threatening.

Of course the Lukaku's of the world cost big money and we were lucky to get him but we need to get someone in who is a threat with pace. Bournemouth found and developed the likes of Callum Wilson and Josh King who tear us apart every time they play us. Of course players like this are a gamble but you'd like to think Marcel is on the case for these type of signings next up.   
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on October 01, 2018, 05:50:16 PM
Dubious as the decision was, he showed with the penalty that he won what pace can get you.

It was a bit of a nothing chance, but because heís quick the defender panics and suddenly we have a penalty

Agree.

Not to split hairs but DCL scores the Tosun chance I think, but does Tosun make the pen? Maybe not.

Iím not sure I 100% agree that Tosun changes the game, I think gueye pocketing serri and is pushing up better change the game, and that was before Tosun entered the field. The first goal had nothing to do with him and neither did the third tbh.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on October 01, 2018, 05:51:38 PM
Also admittedly Iím not very good at assessing striker movement as I think itís really really hard thing to assess.

Always dubious when I see fellow armchair fans who seem to be able to cast judgement on something like that.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2018, 06:38:44 PM
Agree.

Not to split hairs but DCL scores the Tosun chance I think, but does Tosun make the pen? Maybe not.

Iím not sure I 100% agree that Tosun changes the game, I think gueye pocketing serri and is pushing up better change the game, and that was before Tosun entered the field. The first goal had nothing to do with him and neither did the third tbh.
You know what gueye has been brilliant recently and doesn't get the credit he deserves at times.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: gizzblue on October 01, 2018, 07:17:12 PM
I say it again deffo Belloti ...he's a 1 in 2 striker with brilliant ability and finishing .
just what we need .
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2018, 07:19:55 PM
How about Immobile? Been banging them in for Lazio for 18 months now, struggled when he was at Dortmund though
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Shogun on October 01, 2018, 07:23:42 PM
How about Immobile? Been banging them in for Lazio for 18 months now, struggled when he was at Dortmund though

Struggled at Sevilla as well, too much of a risk at whatever he'd cost.

File under Alessio Cerci.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on October 01, 2018, 08:15:39 PM
I say it again deffo Belloti ...he's a 1 in 2 striker with brilliant ability and finishing .
just what we need .

Someone has to buy him at some point, I agree there.

Worries about his knee injury, but seems to be scoring a bit again this year.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on October 02, 2018, 02:32:08 AM
Someone has to buy him at some point, I agree there.

Worries about his knee injury, but seems to be scoring a bit again this year.

He's on 2 in 7 in the league, so you'd hope that they'd want less than the £80m being banded about when he had that good season 2 years ago. Still only 24 though.

Krzysztof Piątek has 8 in 6 for Genoa, first season though....I'll admit ive selected him based on his whoscored profile
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on October 02, 2018, 02:43:00 AM
https://twitter.com/mixedknuts/status/818164862534774784 (https://twitter.com/mixedknuts/status/818164862534774784)

Why you should worry about shot frequency/selection more than finishing ability. One of them is easier to improve than the other.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 02, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
You know what gueye has been brilliant recently and doesn't get the credit he deserves at times.

He has been very good but he still gives the ball away too much. If he cuts that out and finds another blue shirt earlier - he's an outstanding player.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on October 02, 2018, 02:31:27 PM
https://twitter.com/mixedknuts/status/818164862534774784 (https://twitter.com/mixedknuts/status/818164862534774784)

Why you should worry about shot frequency/selection more than finishing ability. One of them is easier to improve than the other.

Weirdly enough Iíd never looked at his numbers before until yesterday and was quite surprised to see him consistently undershooting his xg except for 2017.

Always had in my head he was a deadly finisher but 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueNoseMike on October 04, 2018, 01:50:54 AM
Same Lukaku that had scored twenty odd goals for West Brom in the Premier League?

I mean I wish we had him and he's great but let's not over sell what he did. He scored something like 16 or 17 for West Brom in the prem. Not 20 odd (which he's done once in his career)
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on October 04, 2018, 02:36:29 AM
How about Immobile? Been banging them in for Lazio for 18 months now, struggled when he was at Dortmund though

Nah, his movement is poor































;)
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on October 04, 2018, 03:13:59 AM
I mean I wish we had him and he's great but let's not over sell what he did. He scored something like 16 or 17 for West Brom in the prem. Not 20 odd (which he's done once in his career)
Lukaku averaged 1 in 2 for us and got 17 goals for West Brom,  it's not like he was playing for Barca or man city where he had an abundance of chances created for him each game!! Clearly some people are under selling what he did do!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: gizzblue on October 04, 2018, 03:18:10 AM
Lukaku averaged 1 in 2 for us and got 17 goals for West Brom,  it's not like he was playing for Barca or man city where he had an abundance of chances created for him each game!! Clearly some people are under selling what he did do!

Don't forget both those teams only had one tactic ....lump it to Lukaku .

With that amount of traffic going through you your gonna bag a few .
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on October 04, 2018, 03:23:40 AM
Don't forget both those teams only had one tactic ....lump it to Lukaku .

With that amount of traffic going through you your gonna bag a few .
Not at all, you've made a point though, it was lumped to him,  rarely was it measured. He made an average team look much better than it was over a number of seasons.  Personally I'd be happy if we made 1 signing in the next 2 year's if that was to get him back
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: gizzblue on October 04, 2018, 03:27:42 AM
Not at all, you've made a point though, it was lumped to him,  rarely was it measured. He made an average team look much better than it was over a number of seasons.  Personally I'd be happy if we made 1 signing in the next 2 year's if that was to get him back

Tbh I don't think he's improved at all (now hes not getting so much traffic through him)...and I would prefer us to go for somebody who works hard not hardly works .
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on October 04, 2018, 03:36:43 AM
Tbh I don't think he's improved at all (now hes not getting so much traffic through him)...and I would prefer us to go for somebody who works hard not hardly works .
Genuinely struggling how to respond to that......
He might not have improved, but id be willing to say he's absolute streets ahead of anything we're likely to get. And as for work rare,  who cares, Neymar does fuck all when he doesn't have the ball but I'd have him too,  we've got DCL if you want someone that works hard
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: School of Science on October 04, 2018, 03:37:03 AM
Watching the footy tonight, that Messi fella ain't bad, but a bit small and no sell on value really at his age. Think I'll stick with my original choice Eden.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: gizzblue on October 04, 2018, 03:56:00 AM
Genuinely struggling how to respond to that......
He might not have improved, but id be willing to say he's absolute streets ahead of anything we're likely to get. And as for work rare,  who cares, Neymar does fuck all when he doesn't have the ball but I'd have him too,  we've got DCL if you want someone that works hard

We are a team who needs every member to work hard ...we're not PSG or a Barca type ...so the Neymars would struggle to carry any real weight for us .
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 04, 2018, 03:35:12 PM
We are a team who needs every member to work hard ...we're not PSG or a Barca type ...so the Neymars would struggle to carry any real weight for us .

(https://themidnightalliance.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/i-mean-seriously.gif)
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: gizzblue on October 04, 2018, 05:36:10 PM
(https://themidnightalliance.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/i-mean-seriously.gif)

You honestly think without a team of superstars Neymar would be half as prolific ?.

Messi alone in the International stage would suggest my hypothesis.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: stirlingblue on October 04, 2018, 05:43:39 PM
You honestly think without a team of superstars Neymar would be half as prolific ?.

Messi alone in the International stage would suggest my hypothesis.

Heís one of the ones that Iíd say is most likely to have an impact without a team of superstars as so much of what he does is individual.

Compare him to somebody like Modric/Iniesta and theyíd be much worse without a strong team around them.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 06, 2018, 05:12:36 PM
Nah, his movement is poor

Time to change your rap name to MC Obvious   ;)
Title: New Striker
Post by: Robber Rodwell on October 20, 2018, 05:40:22 AM
I would love to see us make a real statement of intent and splash out on a proven goalscorer this January.  Anyone out there that you would love here??
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on October 20, 2018, 05:48:49 AM
Lukaku
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: eugene on October 20, 2018, 12:47:16 PM
Just see the headlines ďI was young my dad made me do itĒ
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2018, 03:17:01 PM
Chalov at CSKA could be a bargain, contract runs out 2020

Cutrone at AC Milan

Both aged 20



Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on October 20, 2018, 03:38:25 PM
I would love to see us make a real statement of intent and splash out on a proven goalscorer this January.  Anyone out there that you would love here??

Who would you like to see?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2018, 05:00:10 PM
In that case, Lewandowski fits the bill

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: stirlingblue on October 20, 2018, 07:34:05 PM
What ever happened to Dolberg? Wasnít he supposed to be the next big thing at one point?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on October 20, 2018, 08:11:06 PM
What ever happened to Dolberg? Wasnít he supposed to be the next big thing at one point?

either he's been injured or they're gradually introducing him but whoscored has him with 11 appearances for 262 minutes 2 goals

probably as good as Calvert-Lewin really, who has 12 appearances 330 minutes and 4 goals
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
I remember when Chelsea were establishing themselves they signed Vialli. I think this is type of striker signing we should explore. A proven international with a good career behind him who may be motivated by crack at the EPL and is still able to play thirty odd times a season.
It would buy us time in our search for a more long-term solution and may see us in a stronger, more attractive position when the time comes to make the next step in terms of signings.
That's the theory, as for names.......
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Shogun on October 20, 2018, 08:36:26 PM
I remember when Chelsea were establishing themselves they signed Vialli. I think this is type of striker signing we should explore. A proven international with a good career behind him who may be motivated by crack at the EPL and is still able to play thirty odd times a season.
It would buy us time in our search for a more long-term solution and may see us in a stronger, more attractive position when the time comes to make the next step in terms of signings.
That's the theory, as for names.......

Carlos Bacca?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: GLewis on October 20, 2018, 08:46:25 PM
Carlos Bacca?

Would be more equivalent to Cavani Iíd say.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: arteta4spain on October 20, 2018, 08:46:51 PM
Immobile? Heís been consistent maybe he needs a move before another team snaps him up.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Shogun on October 20, 2018, 08:51:51 PM
Would be more equivalent to Cavani Iíd say.

Wouldnít even sniff us though


Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: GLewis on October 20, 2018, 08:58:23 PM
Wouldnít even sniff us though




No, but if the player is on the decline they need to have been starting at a pretty high level for us to be worth bringing them in.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2018, 09:17:42 PM
Icardi

25 and captain of Inter Milan

Surprisingly, only capped half a dozen times for Argentina

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on October 20, 2018, 10:24:00 PM
No, but if the player is on the decline they need to have been starting at a pretty high level for us to be worth bringing them in.

I remember convincing myself it was going to be Auba.

He looked at China so was looking for doh, he hadnít resigned with Dortmund so was open to a move, and I thought most of the big boys would leave him due to his age.

Cavani I have to say it has crossed my mind. Such a deadly player but heís so overshadowed at PSG and they would drop him if a hot young thing came on the scene.

Higuain, sure. Dzeko, another one.

None of them really fit what I would like us to be getting but you have to admit a superstar striker is a slightly different proposition, isnít it. A big time name.

Then again, could all just go Rooney, couldnít it.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on October 21, 2018, 02:22:54 AM
Icardi

25 and captain of Inter Milan

Surprisingly, only capped half a dozen times for Argentina
Id like Icardi talent wise, but I get the feeling he'd annoy too many players. Even large parts of Inter fans hate him despite being captain

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Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cozzie on October 21, 2018, 02:27:10 AM
Dzeko would be a good shout.

32 like and doubt he would leave Roma but would be worth a try.

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Morta75 on October 21, 2018, 03:10:31 PM
I would like us to try and sign Timo Werner (Martial, Rashford) Sell Tosun (he will never be the 20 + goal scorer a team need to win premier leauge). If not just continue with Richarlison on top.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 16, 2018, 08:04:37 PM
Danny Ings would suit Marco's style very well. Mobile, holds it up and scores his fair share with head and feet. Oh, he'd be straight on penalties as well.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 16, 2018, 08:06:30 PM
Danny Ings would suit Marco's style very well. Mobile, holds it up and scores his fair share with head and feet. Oh, he'd be straight on penalties as well.

nooooooooooo
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheTone on December 16, 2018, 08:10:15 PM
Danny Ings would suit Marco's style very well. Mobile, holds it up and scores his fair share with head and feet. Oh, he'd be straight on penalties as well.

@Cozzie (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1629) would be fuming though
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on December 16, 2018, 08:36:09 PM
Got to be doing better than Ings. He's found his level.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cozzie on December 16, 2018, 08:44:49 PM
Come on lads. Ings?

Nah.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Shogun on December 16, 2018, 08:56:00 PM
Danny Ings would suit Marco's style very well. Mobile, holds it up and scores his fair share with head and feet. Oh, he'd be straight on penalties as well.

Didnít know TheRam had more than one account
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 16, 2018, 09:10:43 PM
Got to be doing better than Ings. He's found his level.

What, the Premier League?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on December 16, 2018, 09:11:54 PM
What, the Premier League?

Bottom half of the Prem level player.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 16, 2018, 09:22:29 PM
Bottom half of the Prem level player.
Bottom half of the Prem level player.



Never looked out of his depth whenever I've seen him
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 16, 2018, 09:27:42 PM
Needs a full year of prem football but if he did heíd get 15 goals + imo

1 goal in 16

:)

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on December 16, 2018, 09:31:26 PM


Never looked out of his depth whenever I've seen him

Yeah, maybe it's just a difference of opinion.

He went to a big club. Admittedly he had injuries, but he wasn't good enough as well (imo). He's excellent for Southamton's level, I agree. I think we need to continue signing more players who are good enough for the Top 6, like Richarlison, Digne, Gomes etc. That's how we'll bridge the gap, rather than going for solid performers like Ings.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 16, 2018, 10:08:48 PM
1 goal in 16

:)



Give him time!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 16, 2018, 10:31:39 PM
We need a young player to develop alongside DCL (someone like Batshuayi, though I guess not him because it would have happened already if it was gonna).  Don't repeat the Tosun mistake with another old grock.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 16, 2018, 10:33:05 PM
This Augustin thing doesnít seem to be going away does it.

Donít know a great deal about him but apparently fast, strong, bag of tricks.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 16, 2018, 10:51:59 PM
I think we should just roll with Calvert-Lewin for the rest of the year.

We can revisit the issue in the summer when more forwards are available and prices are less inflated.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 16, 2018, 10:54:50 PM
I think we should just roll with Calvert-Lewin for the rest of the year.

We can revisit the issue in the summer when more forwards are available and prices are less inflated.

I wasn't explicit, but yeah.  Trying to find a real solution in January is a fool's errand.  It's not like we would fall apart starting DCL, or even trying something random on occasion like Siggy (would that qualify as a false 9?).

Still sell Tosun if you can get value.  He doesn't do anything more than freaking Niasse can do in a pinch.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Shogun on December 16, 2018, 10:57:06 PM
Che Adams
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Ramjam on December 17, 2018, 08:12:41 AM
What about Origi, stop him from scoring for them against us all the fuckin time
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheTone on December 17, 2018, 12:28:08 PM
What about Origi, stop him from scoring for them against us all the fuckin time

He'd probably score an own goal when we play them the massive wanker
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on December 17, 2018, 02:06:05 PM
Some ridiculous shouts in here lately, Ings, Origi? Have a word
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Ramjam on December 17, 2018, 02:17:15 PM
Some ridiculous shouts in here lately, Ings, Origi? Have a word
Relax mate, have a laugh, we need much more than any of the aforementioned
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on December 17, 2018, 02:45:42 PM
Relax mate, have a laugh, we need much more than any of the aforementioned

Lets go mad and get Charlie Austin
Title: What striker do we go for?
Post by: arteta4spain on December 17, 2018, 04:00:21 PM
Literally googled who should we sign and seen this.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-strikers-transfer-targets-january-15181139

Werner is a shout and with lookman might be able to do a decent deal there. Who knows but deffo need someone in next month
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Zoolander on December 17, 2018, 04:06:15 PM
Every time I think of us getting a striker I end up thinking Maxi Gomez could be one of the best out there thatís realistic.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Lazarou on December 17, 2018, 06:16:23 PM
Every time I think of us getting a striker I end up thinking Maxi Gomez could be one of the best out there thatís realistic.

Ripping it up on my FM19 EFC career 36 goals in 40 apps!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on December 17, 2018, 07:45:28 PM
Every time I think of us getting a striker I end up thinking Maxi Gomez could be one of the best out there thatís realistic.

Three and a half years remaining on his contract, plus scoring and assisting well, and only 22.

Would be well in excess of £30m
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2018, 07:58:33 PM
Wonder how much Seb Haller would cost?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 17, 2018, 08:02:07 PM
Wonder how much Seb Haller would cost?

It wasn't much two summers ago when we opted to sign nobody.

It's okay, though. A target man would have been an awkward fit for what we were trying to do.

Edit: Holy fuck, he has 11 assists this year (all competitions)? We wouldn't have gotten the same price Eintracht Frankfurt did but it was still a low-risk chance worth taking.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: KingdingalingNL on December 17, 2018, 08:08:50 PM
Wonder how much Seb Haller would cost?

Why did we pass on him?? Reminded me of when we passed on van Dijk for £1m when he was at Groningen!!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2018, 08:13:52 PM
It wasn't much two summers ago when we opted to sign nobody.

It's okay, though. A target man would have been an awkward fit for what we were trying to do.

Edit: Holy fuck, he has 11 assists this year (all competitions)? We wouldn't have gotten the same price Eintracht Frankfurt did but it was still a low-risk chance worth taking.

Yeah apparently his link up is phenomenal.

Iím not entirely sure what weíre looking to do btw? Think having someone who can back in and lay it off would be absolutely invaluable. Plus if he can head the ball we might make some of digneís crosses count.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on December 17, 2018, 08:18:37 PM
Wonder how much Seb Haller would cost?

They are suggesting £15m on Transfermarkt, so you can usually almost double their estimation in reality, and at 24, 1m90, with 12 goals and 11 assists in 23 appearences in all competitions we would definitely have to go to £25m-£35m.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 17, 2018, 08:31:20 PM
I'm still annoyed at Koeman and Walsh for that one.

If we had paid double what Eintracht did and he didn't work out, we still would have been able to loan him out and get our money back.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on December 17, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
I'm still annoyed at Koeman and Walsh for that one.

If we had paid double what Eintracht did and he didn't work out, we still would have been able to loan him out and get our money back.

Iím annoyed at that pair for everything, apart from Pickford, Keane, and Gana
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 17, 2018, 09:06:45 PM
Iím annoyed at that pair for everything, apart from Pickford, Keane, and Gana

I think Lookman and Vlasic were pretty good too.

Both of them are talented and both are now worth more than what we paid despite only featuring sporadically for Everton.

Wasted money aside, it's actually kind of hilarious how Koeman and Allardyce (w/ Walsh) bet so much on no-margin-for-error signings. I think it's probably wise for both managers to seek national team jobs from now on.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 17, 2018, 09:13:52 PM
We up for Haller then, lads?

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2018, 09:20:02 PM
Been no links to him but he looks really good like. Similar level of club as us so youíd think dough and prem would win out.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on December 17, 2018, 09:27:23 PM
Richarlison and Haller - should strike up a good partnership

Hallerlujah!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 17, 2018, 09:28:20 PM
We up for Haller then, lads?

Depends on the price.

Definitely intrigued by the creativity, though.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 17, 2018, 09:37:08 PM
Why not sell Niasse to a Russian club, watch him tear it up and then buy him back a better player?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on December 17, 2018, 09:56:03 PM
Yeah apparently his link up is phenomenal.

Iím not entirely sure what weíre looking to do btw? Think having someone who can back in and lay it off would be absolutely invaluable. Plus if he can head the ball we might make some of digneís crosses count.

Don't know him but phenomenal link-up is definitely part of what we need.

Seen so many fast passes or one-two's just fucking fail on that final fucking ball.....     :shakeyheadman:
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: formerKHL on December 17, 2018, 10:03:42 PM
fkk it go for lukaku again...he looks like the most unhappy player I've ever seen...at least he smiled when he was with us....7 touches of the ball yesterday...Ö..maybe he's realised he's not as good as he thinks he is and CL level is a level above him....at least the way we play would make the lazy get work...but he does know where the net is.....

get a bid in for him £45m....
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 17, 2018, 10:05:46 PM
fkk it go for lukaku again...he looks like the most unhappy player I've ever seen...at least he smiled when he was with us....7 touches of the ball yesterday...Ö..maybe he's realised he's not as good as he thinks he is and CL level is a level above him....at least the way we play would make the lazy get work...but he does know where the net is.....

get a bid in for him £45m....

naaaaa
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: gizzblue on December 17, 2018, 10:15:37 PM
fkk it go for lukaku again...he looks like the most unhappy player I've ever seen...at least he smiled when he was with us....7 touches of the ball yesterday...Ö..maybe he's realised he's not as good as he thinks he is and CL level is a level above him....at least the way we play would make the lazy get work...but he does know where the net is.....

get a bid in for him £45m....
never go back especially for a judus fucker while his dad's still alive .
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Martip on December 17, 2018, 10:34:14 PM
Ripping it up on my FM19 EFC career 36 goals in 40 apps!
I'm in
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 17, 2018, 10:56:34 PM
naaaaa

He'd rip it up with us now. Not that he'd want to return like.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: D15TIN on December 17, 2018, 11:37:37 PM
As if Lukaku would even consider coming back to Everton, never happening, he'll go abroad in the summer
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 17, 2018, 11:40:14 PM
Dreamland
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2018, 11:43:57 PM
Up there with Timo Werner and Dembele in the you are having an absolute giraffe stakes.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: blueToffee on December 17, 2018, 11:45:01 PM
As if Lukaku would even consider coming back to Everton, never happening, he'll go abroad in the summer

Or he could stay if Mourinho goes and they get in someone like Pochettino. He is better than what we're seeing now, but yeah he's not going to come back here. There is still enough to his scoring record, plus his record with Belgium + the excuse of the turmoil at Man United for him to get another big-ish move if he does need to move on.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Shogun on December 18, 2018, 12:28:00 AM
Why would anyone want Lukaku?

1) He has proved with his record in big matches and his time at United he's not an elite striker and never will be.
2) He's nowhere near as good as he was whilst with us. He's about two Jessie Lingards heavier and doesn't seem as mobile.
3) Silva likes technical players, Lukaku struggles in this regard.
4) He'd still cost about £50m
5) He's a bellend.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 18, 2018, 01:03:20 AM
This Haller sounds good (based on the 5 posts Iíve just read). We signing him then?


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Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 18, 2018, 01:29:29 AM
fkk it go for lukaku again...he looks like the most unhappy player I've ever seen...at least he smiled when he was with us....7 touches of the ball yesterday...Ö..maybe he's realised he's not as good as he thinks he is and CL level is a level above him....at least the way we play would make the lazy get work...but he does know where the net is.....

get a bid in for him £45m....

Man Us fat lukaku could eat our chubby lukaku
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on December 18, 2018, 01:47:16 AM
Lukaku is a slob
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cozzie on December 18, 2018, 02:08:14 AM
Lukaku is a blob.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 18, 2018, 02:16:15 AM
Lukaku propped up a mediocre attack for the last three years he was here.

I get that there are reasons to dislike him but last year is all the proof you need of how valuable he was.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2018, 02:46:39 AM
I donít think we need to have the Ďis the obviously very good Lukaku any good?í conversation.

If thereís one fan base in the country that should know if heís any good or not it should be us ffs.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: blueToffee on December 18, 2018, 02:54:43 AM
For me, it just highlights again how big confidence is for any player, even at the very top levels of the PL.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 18, 2018, 02:58:32 AM
I think we are still underestimating just how good Lukaku was with us, and what kind of physical freak/monster he is.  But he needs the right system and a positive manager, or it goes tits up.

I did predict that Mourinho would misuse and/or play mind games with him.  That was always a bad fit, and for the life of me don't get why both parties didn't swing a deal with Chelsea (semi-tie it in with a Batshuayi transfer, rather than the corpse of Wayne Rooney).

Not that I think he would want to be seen as "taking a step back" when he could make a more sideways move to the continent.  But he would be great here, again.  Where he was loved (ok, by a good majority of us, despite all the tools I will get for posting this), and could become a leader.

Yes, he's somewhat of a bellend, that's just how star forwards tend to be.  But he was, by all accounts, an excellent teammate at Everton.  That's what really matters, in terms of personality.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Omar on December 18, 2018, 08:21:34 AM
Richarlison on the left, big Rom up top and Lookman on the right.


I'd have it, now it's time to put down the crack pipe.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 18, 2018, 11:55:13 AM
I think we are still underestimating just how good Lukaku was with us, and what kind of physical freak/monster he is.  But he needs the right system and a positive manager, or it goes tits up.

I did predict that Mourinho would misuse and/or play mind games with him.  That was always a bad fit, and for the life of me don't get why both parties didn't swing a deal with Chelsea (semi-tie it in with a Batshuayi transfer, rather than the corpse of Wayne Rooney).

Not that I think he would want to be seen as "taking a step back" when he could make a more sideways move to the continent.  But he would be great here, again.  Where he was loved (ok, by a good majority of us, despite all the tools I will get for posting this), and could become a leader.

Yes, he's somewhat of a bellend, that's just how star forwards tend to be.  But he was, by all accounts, an excellent teammate at Everton.  That's what really matters, in terms of personality.

Heís definitely not a physical freak/monster. Thatís the old drogba comparison and absolutely not the way he plays. Heís more Michael Owen than drogba in style
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: GLewis on December 18, 2018, 12:41:58 PM
Heís definitely not a physical freak/monster. Thatís the old drogba comparison and absolutely not the way he plays. Heís more Michael Owen than drogba in style

Yes but that is his usp, in that he is physically massive for that type of player.

Obviously what works against him as a selling point is that despite that size, he doesnít do what youíd expect with back to goal.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2018, 01:37:36 PM
He is a 16 stone Micheal Owen like, but quite pleased he hasnít magically developed world class hold up since leaving us.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on December 18, 2018, 01:56:05 PM
Mitrovic linked again today, actually think hes under rated and would do a good job, only 24 too
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2018, 02:05:20 PM
Mitrovic linked again today, actually think hes under rated and would do a good job, only 24 too

Like him a lot as a player but I still donít really know what we need from a striker.

Are we looking for a pressing machine or a hold up man or an in behind pace merchant or a penalty box striker?

Honestly no idea, I eagerly await an article or post on here that can help me form my opinion.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mac934 on December 18, 2018, 02:17:53 PM
A Lukaku/ early Jelavic type striker. One tha can come here and not spend weeks having to 'aclimatise' to the Premier League, come straight in and keep scoring goals from the chances we make but don't finish off.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on December 18, 2018, 03:00:11 PM
Like him a lot as a player but I still donít really know what we need from a striker.

Are we looking for a pressing machine or a hold up man or an in behind pace merchant or a penalty box striker?

Honestly no idea, I eagerly await an article or post on here that can help me form my opinion.

Im not sure either, I think we need someone like Suarez, good hold up play, works his socks off and knows where the back of the net is. We're going to be very, very lucky to get anyone near that quality but I think Mitrovic does tick a number of the boxes as we holds the ball up really well and his strike rate is up there, especially internationally. Id personally want someone with more pace, but you cant have it all
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 18, 2018, 03:04:34 PM
Leave him to West Ham.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2018, 03:11:22 PM
A Lukaku/ early Jelavic type striker. One tha can come here and not spend weeks having to 'aclimatise' to the Premier League, come straight in and keep scoring goals from the chances we make but don't finish off.

Donít think we make as many chances as we as fans sometimes think we do.

I think weíre still around 11th for chances created from open play.

@footballfactmans xg league table has us in 14th at the moment (quality of chances created per game vs opponent).

I definitely think someone who can take a ball to feet would be valuable. Someone who can lay off to Walcott / Rich / Gylfi, but also have a bit of a goal threat to stop people doubling up on tricky Ricky.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2018, 03:26:37 PM
Leave him to West Ham.

West Ham have made worryingly good signings recently. Maybe that scout they had off us was good.

If they did get mitro it would be a good signing imo. 8th best npxg according to understat, 7 goals 2 assists.

But I think they’ll go more expensive and foreign. Aboubakar or someone.

Edit: by good I mean like talented and not total shite which is what they usually do.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cozzie on December 18, 2018, 03:35:07 PM
I'd have Mitrovic like. Deffo underrated.

Mad that he is only 24 still.

Scored a fair few in a poor Fulham side, got a bit of physicality and snidyness I think we lack up front.

Hes pretty good in the air too.

But as many have said it's hard to gage what sort of striker Marco actually wants for his system.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on December 18, 2018, 03:43:26 PM
Batshuyi is the one for me
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Martip on December 18, 2018, 03:43:42 PM
I'd have Mitrovic like. Deffo underrated.

Mad that he is only 24 still.

Scored a fair few in a poor Fulham side, got a bit of physicality and snidyness I think we lack up front.

Hes pretty good in the air too.

But as many have said it's hard to gage what sort of striker Marco actually wants for his system.
Not sure if he's much different to Tosun tbh.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cozzie on December 18, 2018, 04:00:01 PM
Not sure if he's much different to Tosun tbh.

More experience in this league, like to think he also has slightly better movement off the ball.

Although admittedly I only really see him on highlights.

Still wouldn't sell Cenk.

Niasse needs to be sold, Cenk might not have hit the ground running here and probably never will but judging him by the goals he has scored so far here he is still a very good finisher if you put it on a plate for him, he just isn't right for Marcos style of play.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 18, 2018, 04:44:16 PM
Dzeko on an 18 month deal.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 18, 2018, 05:33:55 PM
Donít think we make as many chances as we as fans sometimes think we do.

I think weíre still around 11th for chances created from open play.

@footballfactmans xg league table has us in 14th at the moment (quality of chances created per game vs opponent).

I definitely think someone who can take a ball to feet would be valuable. Someone who can lay off to Walcott / Rich / Gylfi, but also have a bit of a goal threat to stop people doubling up on tricky Ricky.

This would absolutely transform us imo.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 18, 2018, 05:34:24 PM
Donít rate Mitrovic, reckon he will finish on like 12 goals.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2018, 06:22:15 PM
Don’t rate Mitrovic, reckon he will finish on like 12 goals.

That would have had him as our top scorer 6 out of the last 10 years
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: GLewis on December 18, 2018, 06:33:54 PM
Think we need a guaranteed link up with reasonable pace for closing down.

From what Silva was saying heís less bothered about 20 goals from one man.

We need to bring the other attackers in more.

Can see case for DCL here but needs much more physical presence as a base performance.

Still has nice touches but consistent attribute is running into channels which arenít always there at home.

Problem is we expect everything from the striker so once someone has been here for 6 months their game gets picked apart.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Jay on December 18, 2018, 09:14:19 PM
Seen some random links to Gabigol today
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: formerKHL on December 18, 2018, 09:29:50 PM
we need a proven Centre Forward....who can play as a centre forward...we should have got this player as soon as lukakus dad started spouting off...Ö

main attributes in no particular order:
1. A target man
2. Can play with his back to goal
3. Can play on the half turn
4. Hold the ball in
5. can link play up and bring other players into the game
6. Can score goals........

sounds a lot but look at the main centre forwards attributes around and they can all do this.....ours currently/recently have only had segments of these points....

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: stirlingblue on December 18, 2018, 09:43:11 PM
we need a proven Centre Forward....who can play as a centre forward...we should have got this player as soon as lukakus dad started spouting off...Ö

main attributes in no particular order:
1. A target man
2. Can play with his back to goal
3. Can play on the half turn
4. Hold the ball in
5. can link play up and bring other players into the game
6. Can score goals........

sounds a lot but look at the main centre forwards attributes around and they can all do this.....ours currently/recently have only had segments of these points....

It sounds like a lot because it is a lot, there are very few strikers who have all of those attributes, even at the big clubs.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on December 18, 2018, 10:23:31 PM
Moussa Marega.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: ajax_andy on December 19, 2018, 02:34:26 AM
Not sure if he's much different to Tosun tbh.

Exactly my thoughts too, not enough of an upgrade... Definitely not a 20 goal a season striker for sure and I'd think if he'd been playing upfront for Fulham all season he'd have a similar number of goals
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Juanito on December 19, 2018, 02:43:23 AM
we need a proven Centre Forward....who can play as a centre forward...we should have got this player as soon as lukakus dad started spouting off...Ö

main attributes in no particular order:
1. A target man
2. Can play with his back to goal
3. Can play on the half turn
4. Hold the ball in
5. can link play up and bring other players into the game
6. Can score goals........

sounds a lot but look at the main centre forwards attributes around and they can all do this.....ours currently/recently have only had segments of these points....



Sounds like you are talking about Gabriel Batistuta.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Cereal Killer on December 19, 2018, 02:47:33 AM
Moussa Marega.

Sounds like a delicious dessert....
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: farnhamtoffee on December 19, 2018, 03:20:04 AM
Mitrovic from Fulham.With the service we could provide for him,reckon he would be 12 to 15 goals a season striker.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: fubarruk on December 19, 2018, 03:39:54 AM
Mitrovic from Fulham.With the service we could provide for him,reckon he would be 12 to 15 goals a season striker.
Zero pace, he's an exact replica of Tosun
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: blueToffee on December 19, 2018, 04:26:07 AM
Yeah, no digging the Mitrovic shouts. Very average player, not worth PL premium.

I'd hope Brands would have a list he's working through already as I don't think there really is a striker already in the PL we'd be able to buy that would be what we need right now.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Goaljira on December 19, 2018, 04:53:41 AM
Dodi Lukebakio.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 19, 2018, 04:59:47 AM
Wilson, before Chelsea nab him
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 19, 2018, 06:58:10 AM
Sounds like you are talking about Gabriel Batistuta.
God if only. Him or Suker.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: stirlingblue on December 19, 2018, 08:47:07 PM
Zero pace, he's an exact replica of Tosun

Nah, unlike Tosun he actually uses his physicality to bully defenders
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 19, 2018, 09:23:32 PM
Never seen such a bog standard striker as Tosun.

Shame because he did look boss at times last season.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 19, 2018, 10:17:27 PM
Never seen such a bog standard striker as Tosun.

Shame because he did look boss at times last season.

Mad body shape. Weird little pidgeon chest and pointy shoulders with skinny arms.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: D15TIN on December 19, 2018, 11:07:37 PM
Mitrovic is shit. Need to be aiming for higher than that

Think ideally we need a striker with pace, and whose good in the air - I'd be tempted to take a chance on that Gabigol, 22 y/o Brazilian.

Other options are probably Callum Wilson, is Dembele playing for Lyon?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on December 19, 2018, 11:15:32 PM
There's another Wilson who looks decent, Harry - unfortunately, on the other lot's books

Dembele does indeed play for Lyon

Vlasic's team-mate, Chalov, a good prospect
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 19, 2018, 11:15:47 PM
Callum Wilson is a genuinely good player but we shouldn't buy him.

He's in peak form and approaching the back end of said peak (so more likely to get worse than better), we'd be buying from within the league (extra expensive), and he's had a couple of bad knee injuries.

Let somebody else spend that money.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 19, 2018, 11:32:48 PM
Mitrovic is shit. Need to be aiming for higher than that

Think ideally we need a striker with pace, and whose good in the air - I'd be tempted to take a chance on that Gabigol, 22 y/o Brazilian.

Other options are probably Callum Wilson, is Dembele playing for Lyon?
'Mitrovic is shit' scores goals in the premier league.

Gabrigol failed in Europe, lets give it a go.

I want neither of these options but come  on mate make a rational argument.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 20, 2018, 12:07:22 AM
Iíd rather Gabigol tbh, heís a wacky risk but I fancy it. Potential superstar imo.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Gash on December 20, 2018, 01:11:31 AM
Callum Wilson is a genuinely good player but we shouldn't buy him.

He's in peak form and approaching the back end of said peak (so more likely to get worse than better), we'd be buying from within the league (extra expensive), and he's had a couple of bad knee injuries.

Let somebody else spend that money.

He's 26, coming 27, that's just entering peak age never mind coming to the back end of it. Buying from within and proven in the league isn't a bad thing, it may carry a premium but at least we know he can score in the league, without knowing the money that would be involved you can't just dismiss it, I'd rather we'd taken a chance in January on him than blown the money we did on Tosun. His injuries may be a consideration in the value but even if they weren't ACL injuries aren't the career damaging injuries they used to be and most younger players return to pretty much the same as they were before.

We're either going to have to spend big on a proven player in his mid to high twenties or take a chance on a younger player, it's unlikely we'd get someone younger that could get 15-20 goals a season. Either one's a risk, you spend big on a Wilson type and he gets injured again or we take a punt on a prospect and he dies on his arse, either way two years down the line we could still be debating about a striker.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 20, 2018, 01:32:59 AM
We're either going to have to spend big on a proven player in his mid to high twenties or take a chance on a younger player, it's unlikely we'd get someone younger that could get 15-20 goals a season. Either one's a risk, you spend big on a Wilson type and he gets injured again or we take a punt on a prospect and he dies on his arse, either way two years down the line we could still be debating about a striker.

Not all prospects are "punts." There are plenty of players ages 20-23 who've played enough first team football at a good enough level to be evaluated properly.

I'd rather see Chelsea buy Wilson in January and sell Tammy Abraham next summer. That's the sort of player I think we should go for. Just turned 21 years old, finds lots of good shooting opportunities, has banged in goals in both of his Championship seasons, and may very well end up unwanted by his current club.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Gash on December 20, 2018, 01:50:55 AM
Not all prospects are "punts." There are plenty of players ages 20-23 who've played enough first team football at a good enough level to be evaluated properly.

I'd rather see Chelsea buy Wilson in January and sell Tammy Abraham next summer. That's the sort of player I think we should go for. Just turned 21 years old, finds lots of good shooting opportunities, has banged in goals in both of his Championship seasons, and may very well end up unwanted by his current club.

We've already got a 21 year old prospect that isn't getting the goals we need. It's all very well going after the likes of Abraham but we still need experience, we need someone that can score goals now not someone that might start getting them in a couple of years time and many a player's looked good in the Championship and struggled in the Premier League.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Goaljira on December 20, 2018, 02:02:43 AM
26/27 with extensive time off due to long injuries cpuld be argued that he's the equivalent of a 24/25 year old in terms of overall burnout.

As long as the injuries are fully sorted.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: D15TIN on December 20, 2018, 02:03:15 AM
'Mitrovic is shit' scores goals in the premier league.

Gabrigol failed in Europe, lets give it a go.

I want neither of these options but come  on mate make a rational argument.
Shouldve elaborated more - Mitrovic is nothing special, gets a handful for Fulham, half decent in the air. The Brazilian has big potential so I hear, at 22 he's got a chance to become a lot better, has played for benfica and inter Milan, Mitrovic has only just joined Fulham aswell, so it's highly unlikely he'll be leaving anyway. Would much rather take a small risk on a loan deal for gabigol or buy him with a relatively low fee
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 20, 2018, 02:11:28 AM
We've already got a 21 year old prospect that isn't getting the goals we need. It's all very well going after the likes of Abraham but we still need experience, we need someone that can score goals now not someone that might start getting them in a couple of years time and many a player's looked good in the Championship and struggled in the Premier League.

I don't buy that we need a new forward that badly. We aren't catching the top 5. Is the difference between 6th and 7th place this season meaningful enough to spend big on a striker who's playing at peak level when the rest of the squad isn't there yet?

Also, w/r/t to the 21 year old prospect we already have -- Calvert-Lewin has only played 483 PL minutes this season (a little more than 5 full matches) and has 3 goals. I think maybe he should play a little more regularly before we declare confidently that he isn't getting the goals we need. We could end up not even needing a new forward.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on December 20, 2018, 02:20:14 AM
Think people are being harsh on Mitrovic or under selling his qualities, to date his career is better than 1 in 2, and he's scored 7 in 17 for Fulham this year and 14 in 33 for Newcastle. These aren't great teams, so you could easily argue there a damn good finisher in there. He's also scored 1 in 2 internationally. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but he's a really good option in my opinion

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Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Gash on December 20, 2018, 02:34:26 AM
I don't buy that we need a new forward that badly. We aren't catching the top 5. Is the difference between 6th and 7th place this season meaningful enough to spend big on a striker who's playing at peak level when the rest of the squad isn't there yet?

We need to plan beyond this season though. We need a decent striker, whether that's in January (unlikely) or in the summer, we can't just rely on youngsters maybe making the grade, in reality most rarely do. We also need to get away from this mentality that we're always going to be seventh. Most seasons there's been a chance for someone to capitalise on a club or two having a poor season in the top six, unfortunately in recent years we've also managed to fuck up when they do as well.

Also, w/r/t to the 21 year old prospect we already have -- Calvert-Lewin has only played 483 PL minutes this season (a little more than 5 full matches) and has 3 goals. I think maybe he should play a little more regularly before we declare confidently that he isn't getting the goals we need. We could end up not even needing a new forward.

Yeah, possibly he should get a run in the team, I'm just not sold on the lad yet but a few starts on a row might be what he needs. My point regarding him was more that I don't see the point in getting someone like Abraham in when we already have a young striker here that we've invested in.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 20, 2018, 03:54:33 AM
Wilson is a good player, was very rated as a youngster but yeah done a knee twice which is a bit heavy. Donít really buy that injuries actually mean heís physically younger?

His best year in the prem ever is 8 goals, which heís matched already this year which is fantastic, but certainly no guarantee he suddenly becomes a 20 goal a year man.

he has been playing for a pretty crap side, albeit one that attacks well.

But this time next year youíd be looking at a striker turning 28 in two months, with two bad injuries and MAYBE one, maybe two (if he did it for us as well) double figure season out of about 6 in the prem, so heís really not the sure thing youíre making out.

Also I think Kramerís POV is - why buy a peak striker now when heíll be post peak when we are actually able to kick on? Even in our wildest dreams itís going to take 3 summers, why spend big on someone thereís no way of getting a profit on, and would just become another milestone when it comes time to become a real side.

Have a look at Spurs recent transfer history, most of the time even when it went wrong, mostly the players had time on their side and potential enough to turn a consistent profit. Perfect for an owner without limitless pockets, who has no way of attracting a ready made superstar.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on December 20, 2018, 05:01:50 AM
Agree with the Wilson shouts, as his type is what we need, but our transfer strategy appears to be aiming for mid twenties rather than late and as others have said, you have to worry about his knee.

But someone in that self-sufficient bully the opposition defence, bring people into the game, type would be great.

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Gash on December 20, 2018, 05:17:51 AM
But this time next year youíd be looking at a striker turning 28 in two months, with two bad injuries and MAYBE one, maybe two (if he did it for us as well) double figure season out of about 6 in the prem, so heís really not the sure thing youíre making out.

27 turning 28 is still no age for a player and he should still be right in his peak. If he can get past this season fit then he should be fine for a good few years yet. To be fair, I've not made out he's sure thing, I was more baffled at 26 (27 in two months) apparently being the time a player starts to decline but I think kept fit and playing regularly in team like we have he'd get 15-20 a season, something we're clearly missing. I'm not even beating the drum to sign him to be honest, if we try fine, if we don't fine but I'm not saying he's the be all and end all.

Also I think Kramerís POV is - why buy a peak striker now when heíll be post peak when we are actually able to kick on? Even in our wildest dreams itís going to take 3 summers, why spend big on someone thereís no way of getting a profit on, and would just become another milestone when it comes time to become a real side.

People get a bit obsessed with sell on values, we've had players barely signed and a debates already started as to how much we can sell them for. I don't really get the idea of buying with an eye on profit, of course we need to sell at times to make money but if that's the case we'll never get to a position of being a "real side" if we've one eye on selling them for more profit. It's striking a balance, we need to keep young players coming in but we also need experienced players and that will mean buying some peak players and there's nothing wrong with that if a player comes up that will improve our starting 11.

Aren't you one of the people that still hasn't forgiven the club for not replacing Lukaku, I may be thinking of someone else? That would have and still does mean buying a peak striker in order to get his 20+ goals a season yet now you're saying we shouldn't sign one as we're three summers away from testing the top four or five? If we rely in buying 20-23 year old's with one eye on profit the chances are we'll never get there anyway, Lukaku and Stones are decent examples of that, bought them young, they did well and we ended up having to sell. That's the trouble with that model, if we just buy young and not any peak/near peak players, two things happen, they either excel, we end up having to sell and they become difficult to replace or they aren't good enough and we move them on for the kind of money that doesn't really make a difference. Writing off money on the odd peak player is fine if it means we get 3 or 4 good seasons out of them and actually manage to win something.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 20, 2018, 05:26:50 AM
Getting a striker at 27 is getting somebody in their peak years.

I like Wilson, the injuries have made him adapt his game and become a better player. Heís a complete striker, who gets himself into very good positions on a regular basis.

Would like to think heís at least being considered by the club.

@Waltzer (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1907) makes a good case for Mitrovic but Iím not sure heís the type of striker we really need in this system.

Gůmez is an intriguing one, but like mitrovic Iím not sure heís the man we need.

Stay away from barboasa, has no track record or pedigree.

Haller is the one for me. Been a 1 in 2 man most of his career and is putting up some astonishing numbers this season.

Think only mbappe and Messi are outperforming him in terms of goal involvement.

Got everything to his game, can be had at a good price, track record of performing at a good standard, and at 24 youíre getting somebody with plenty of scope to get even better.

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 20, 2018, 05:35:29 AM
@Gash (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) I could be persuaded to be honest, I do really like him as a player. Like in the end with Gylfi I started thinking - well fucking hell, Iíd rather he play for us than a year watching Everton with even less talent.

I am very much in the camp that two season on without a serviceable replacement for our best player is a bit of a joke yeah. Had we bought Wilson THEN for like £15-£25m and be 16-20 goals better off and about to sell him for £30+ then absolutely laughiní, but instead weíve waited until heís two years older and going for his big price. It just seems a bit daft like.

I think it boils down to wanting dramatic sea change in order for the club to improve. Like I say, I think the way to do that is to buy well, and buy clever enough so that when it doesnt quite work out, you can move them on for profit.

How long do you think Moshiri wants to, or even can, take hits on these sort of players? Will a player like Wilson move us forward more than a player like Theo? A decent player yeah, a player who will give us a few decent seasons but in all likelyhood slide with his value going with him and his wages staying static.

A player like Rom however, an undervalued talent we picked up for less than he was really worth, got a few seasons out of and THEN sold at terrific profit? That is the kind of deal that can improve a club.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: GLewis on December 20, 2018, 11:53:46 AM
@Gash (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) I could be persuaded to be honest, I do really like him as a player. Like in the end with Gylfi I started thinking - well fucking hell, Iíd rather he play for us than a year watching Everton with even less talent.

I am very much in the camp that two season on without a serviceable replacement for our best player is a bit of a joke yeah. Had we bought Wilson THEN for like £15-£25m and be 16-20 goals better off and about to sell him for £30+ then absolutely laughiní, but instead weíve waited until heís two years older and going for his big price. It just seems a bit daft like.

I think it boils down to wanting dramatic sea change in order for the club to improve. Like I say, I think the way to do that is to buy well, and buy clever enough so that when it doesnt quite work out, you can move them on for profit.

How long do you think Moshiri wants to, or even can, take hits on these sort of players? Will a player like Wilson move us forward more than a player like Theo? A decent player yeah, a player who will give us a few decent seasons but in all likelyhood slide with his value going with him and his wages staying static.

A player like Rom however, an undervalued talent we picked up for less than he was really worth, got a few seasons out of and THEN sold at terrific profit? That is the kind of deal that can improve a club.

Looking at transfers this summer Iíd guess that heíd be viewed as too old (especially if it was the summer) and too expensive with PL premium for someone without a guaranteed track record.

If weíre spending big it should be Richarlison profile where thereís scope for the big improvement to not have to come for 2/3 years, or even if they donít get to star level, youíll at least have a decent player for a long time.

If we want a bit of experience then we need to be clever in our targets.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 20, 2018, 02:06:33 PM
Looking at transfers this summer Iíd guess that heíd be viewed as too old (especially if it was the summer) and too expensive with PL premium for someone without a guaranteed track record.

If weíre spending big it should be Richarlison profile where thereís scope for the big improvement to not have to come for 2/3 years, or even if they donít get to star level, youíll at least have a decent player for a long time.

If we want a bit of experience then we need to be clever in our targets.

Strongly agree.

E.g a big time striker who through pure quality would still be good for a couple of years and raise the bar for the side.

Like, I donít think Ramís shout of Dzeko was a terrible shout. Just a player with a very certain skill set, including bagging goals at all kinds of levels, who we can take a hit on banking on the idea heís going to raise everyone around him for 18 months.

Same for like, dreamland but, Cavani, Lewa, Auba before arsenal got him etc.

We can take the hit on the odd player, but it has to be special circumstances.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 20, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
@TheRam (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1602) your boy on here

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 20, 2018, 05:56:47 PM
Feel like Iím spamming at this point but, brands on strategy, re: Lozano / Bergwijn

http://sportwitness.co.uk/marcel-brands-reveals-everton-budget-limit-hirving-lozano-clubs-transfer-spend-thinking/
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on December 20, 2018, 06:55:02 PM
Feel like Iím spamming at this point but, brands on strategy, re: Lozano / Bergwijn

http://sportwitness.co.uk/marcel-brands-reveals-everton-budget-limit-hirving-lozano-clubs-transfer-spend-thinking/

Cant really argue with what hes saying and hopefully its a bit of hardball with PSV to get them on the cheap, although he does kind of contradict himself and im not entirely sure Richarlison had shown it in the Premier league and thats why he warranted the fee, could easily argue that Lozano in the World Cup and CL just enhanced his value just as much.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mick 1995 on December 20, 2018, 07:00:23 PM
Feel like Iím spamming at this point but, brands on strategy, re: Lozano / Bergwijn

http://sportwitness.co.uk/marcel-brands-reveals-everton-budget-limit-hirving-lozano-clubs-transfer-spend-thinking/

Quote
Of course Lozano and Bergwijn are interesting players, but Ä30m for Hirving and Ä20m for Steven, we will not pay that.

Fills me with joy for more than one reason:
- We have actually made enquiries and been given figures for these very, very good players
- We are actively warning them that it would be a mistake to try and jump a few levels to the clubs above us
- We're not just writing blank cheques


Very, very heartening interview
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluenose 91 on December 20, 2018, 08:08:17 PM
Knows what he's doing this fella doesn't he?

Will take a while but at least we're giving ourselves a chance of getting it right.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on December 20, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
Cant really argue with what hes saying and hopefully its a bit of hardball with PSV to get them on the cheap, although he does kind of contradict himself and im not entirely sure Richarlison had shown it in the Premier league and thats why he warranted the fee, could easily argue that Lozano in the World Cup and CL just enhanced his value just as much.

I think with Richarlison it was a combination of the start he made for Watford, and Silva knowing him at close quarters and knowing precisely what his attributes and potential were.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on December 20, 2018, 09:23:32 PM
I think with Richarlison it was a combination of the start he made for Watford, and Silva knowing him at close quarters and knowing precisely what his attributes and potential were.

Completely agree, it was also to do with our relationship with Watford at the time too. I was coming at it from an outside perspective though and questioning the logic behind what Brands said. Richarlison had half a good season and we paid 40+ million, yet he'd question spending over 20 million euros on Lozano who played really well at the World Cup, scores in the Champions League and has done well at a good European league for years for a more sustained period and is only 23.
I get why he said it from an Everton perspective trying to lower the price, but its not the hard to see through.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: GLewis on December 20, 2018, 09:25:34 PM
I think with Richarlison it was a combination of the start he made for Watford, and Silva knowing him at close quarters and knowing precisely what his attributes and potential were.

Yeah weíd had first hand scouting for 6 months.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mick 1995 on December 20, 2018, 09:39:40 PM
Completely agree, it was also to do with our relationship with Watford at the time too. I was coming at it from an outside perspective though and questioning the logic behind what Brands said. Richarlison had half a good season and we paid 40+ million, yet he'd question spending over 20 million euros on Lozano who played really well at the World Cup, scores in the Champions League and has done well at a good European league for years for a more sustained period and is only 23.
I get why he said it from an Everton perspective trying to lower the price, but its not the hard to see through.

In all fairness, he said he'd spend the Ä20m on Lozano, it was Ä30m he was questioning.
At this level though, Ä10m is a largly irrelevant sum i would say. It can easily be tied into incentives that offset it. So this smells like public negotiation to me.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 20, 2018, 10:05:18 PM
On the strategy front - one wonders if Lukaku's situation helps a Richarlison (and also players like Digne) believe the sales pitch that the grass isn't always greener, even if you do patiently wait to consider a move.

Also that Everton is the kind of place that lets creative players express themselves, in a nurturing (rather than cutthroat) environment.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 21, 2018, 12:06:30 AM
I think with Richarlison it was a combination of the start he made for Watford, and Silva knowing him at close quarters and knowing precisely what his attributes and potential were.

Made sense from a stats POV 😬
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Silas on December 21, 2018, 01:46:45 AM
Dzeko would be great for us. Brands is doing some great business and is looking for the right targets
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 21, 2018, 05:54:51 AM
Not a striker sorry, and dreamland, but, Ozil potentially available on loan...

Would ya?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Martip on December 21, 2018, 05:56:42 AM
Not a striker sorry, and dreamland, but, Ozil potentially available on loan...

Would ya?
Not with those buggy eyes....right turn off
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 21, 2018, 08:22:11 AM
Not a striker sorry, and dreamland, but, Ozil potentially available on loan...

Would ya?

If he'd actually sign here on a half-season loan?

Yeah, that would be a ton of fun.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 21, 2018, 02:12:25 PM
I know talksport and all that lot hate him, but I proper love Ozil. He phones it in some days but some people are just like that. When heís on it heís one of my fave players to watch.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 21, 2018, 02:18:28 PM
Can you IMAGINE the das at Goodison watching ozil put in a 3/10 at home v Liverpool just days after a 10/10 world class deconstruction of Cardiff or someone.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on December 21, 2018, 04:11:56 PM
Ozil would be a terrible signing, even on loan. We'd be taking a player who 8 games out of 10 isnt better than what we have, yes, there will be a few games of brilliance but its to far in between. He's also on about 350k a week so the likelihood of ever signing him permanently are non existent so all it would do is annoy the good squad we do have
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: gizzblue on December 21, 2018, 05:35:16 PM
The Arsenal reject we have now keeps playing a 4/10 ...why the hell would we want another one .
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on December 21, 2018, 05:40:02 PM
Ozil? Fuck off lads
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 21, 2018, 06:00:24 PM
Not a striker sorry, and dreamland, but, Ozil potentially available on loan...

Would ya?

Have a few chongs last night?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 21, 2018, 06:02:17 PM
Have a few chongs last night?

Haha no mate, not for a while either actually.

Donít think a cl club will need or want to loan him. His stock has dropped.

Heís literally one of the best open chance creators the prem has ever seen. Something we lack massively. Iíd take it just to see what happened.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluenose 91 on December 21, 2018, 06:10:22 PM
Get him in.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Macca77 on December 21, 2018, 07:43:08 PM
https://twitter.com/philkecho/status/1076110362024570882
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on December 21, 2018, 08:38:35 PM
He literally said nothing about Lozano. Just ignored the question and talked in general terms.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 21, 2018, 08:39:26 PM
Haha no mate, not for a while either actually.

Donít think a cl club will need or want to loan him. His stock has dropped.

Heís literally one of the best open chance creators the prem has ever seen. Something we lack massively. Iíd take it just to see what happened.

Oh Iím up for it like.

Letís get a crew together and march down to London.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 21, 2018, 08:49:09 PM
Half-season loan of a guy like Ozil makes no sense.  This is a transitional year, and we need to be using players that have a legitimate shot of being part of our future.

It's not like DCL falls on his face out there, so you might as well see what you've got in him.

This is unlike Zouma, who might still get purchased, and plays a position where we would be dancing with catastrophe without the CB depth he provides.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 21, 2018, 11:07:52 PM
If you donít like Ozil Iíve got no time for you.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 22, 2018, 01:32:15 AM
If you donít like Ozil Iíve got no time for you.

You can never tell if people are like Ďozil? No chance could we get him!í Or like Ďozil? Lad heís crapí
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: kramer0 on December 22, 2018, 01:37:30 AM
÷zil arguably the best passer of the ball in the entire league.

If you can somehow get him without sacrificing the ability to improve the squad long-term, you do it.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 22, 2018, 01:38:06 AM
÷zil arguably the best passer of the ball in the entire league.

If you can somehow get him without sacrificing the ability to improve the squad long-term, you do it.

Some bets are just worth it.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Thomas on December 22, 2018, 02:41:29 AM
Someone like Mitrovic but better. Warnock just described him as the best striker in the league with his back to goal.

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Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Thomas on December 22, 2018, 02:42:43 AM
It's a no to Balotelli for me. He's trouble and a fire risk. Do we go for a shorter term solution such as Dzeko et al and give the likes of DCL time or go for a longer solution? Would like Rashford but he'd only do a loan if at all. What you want and who wants you is the problem I guess.
Dzeko is one of my favourite target men.

It's confusing whether we need a target man or a speed demon tbh

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Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Martip on December 22, 2018, 03:00:00 AM
Dzeko is one of my favourite target men.

It's confusing whether we need a target man or a speed demon tbh

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That's why lukaku was good for us as he could do both.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 22, 2018, 03:59:33 AM
That's why lukaku was good for us as he could do both.

Neither
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 22, 2018, 04:52:20 AM
We need a target man. Not necessarily to play every week but we need   the option in the squad, it was highlighted in the last couple of home games.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Thomas on December 22, 2018, 04:58:08 AM
We need a target man. Not necessarily to play every week but we need   the option in the squad, it was highlighted in the last couple of home games.

But Tosun is a target man. Plus how do we play on the break with a TM?

I love TM btw old school back to goal Big Dunc type players but I the KIND of player (obviously better than this guy) we need is more Chicarito. Although if Mitrovic could do both and Fulham where swept up at the bottom I'd buy him as a squad player.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 22, 2018, 05:08:04 AM
But Tosun is a target man. Plus how do we play on the break with a TM?

I love TM btw old school back to goal Big Dunc type players but I the KIND of player (obviously better than this guy) we need is more Chicarito. Although if Mitrovic could do both and Fulham where swept up at the bottom I'd buy him as a squad player.

For the majority of the last couple of games the opposition defended deep and their defenses were disciplined. We lacked the option to bully them. Second half against Newcastle we barely laid a glove on them. Target men can influence games that are not going in our favour. Plus we have hardly taken advantage of some very good crossing from Digne since he got into the side.
In a squad of 20 we should be able to go to that option.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Martip on December 22, 2018, 05:49:10 AM
But Tosun is a target man. Plus how do we play on the break with a TM?

I love TM btw old school back to goal Big Dunc type players but I the KIND of player (obviously better than this guy) we need is more Chicarito. Although if Mitrovic could do both and Fulham where swept up at the bottom I'd buy him as a squad player.
We wouldn't spend the kind of money he'd cost in a squad player surely ?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 22, 2018, 04:00:37 PM
We donít need squad players.

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 22, 2018, 04:08:57 PM
Would love a new Bob Latchford.. Could do it all.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: oscar on December 22, 2018, 04:14:06 PM
Do you ok thing we should try Walcott through the middle.
Would stretch the game with his pace
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on December 22, 2018, 04:49:53 PM
Do you ok thing we should try Walcott through the middle.
Would stretch the game with his pace

Yes, if DCL doesnít play well there I would really like to see Theo through the middle.

It would still allow us to have Richarlison and Lookman out wide, and I would also like to see Bernard centrally in the #10
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Ramjam on December 22, 2018, 04:53:18 PM
Yes, if DCL doesn't play well there I would really like to see Theo through the middle.

It would still allow us to have Richarlison and Lookman out wide, and I would also like to see Bernard centrally in the #10
To be perfectly honest Sam I think Bernard is out of his depth in this league, hope Iím wrong but I donít think he has the composure required to make correct decisions at critical times.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 22, 2018, 04:58:15 PM
To be perfectly honest Sam I think Bernard is out of his depth in this league, hope Iím wrong but I donít think he has the composure required to make correct decisions at critical times.

Not going to give him a pre season and more than half a season then?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Ramjam on December 22, 2018, 05:01:10 PM
Not going to give him a pre season and more than half a season then?
Just donít think heís good enough, but could be wrong
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on December 22, 2018, 05:09:42 PM
To be perfectly honest Sam I think Bernard is out of his depth in this league, hope Iím wrong but I donít think he has the composure required to make correct decisions at critical times.

I think heís class, and would be more of a menace playing centrally between the lines.

I could be very wrong, though.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Ramjam on December 22, 2018, 05:10:07 PM
On that point do you think Sandro got a fair go?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on December 22, 2018, 05:14:48 PM
On that point do you think Sandro got a fair go?

Bernard is in a completely different stratosphere to Sandro
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Martip on December 22, 2018, 05:16:14 PM
Just donít think heís good enough, but could be wrong
Must adm8t I'm thinking this too.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Ramjam on December 22, 2018, 05:20:37 PM
Bernard is in a completely different stratosphere to Sandro
In what way?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on December 22, 2018, 05:26:36 PM
In what way?
Different nationality, different age, different life experiences, different national experience, different top level experience, different position.
 Sandro was an unknown punt relatively speaking, Bernard had a lot on his CV to suggest he'd be good, I think he will become that
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Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 22, 2018, 05:33:45 PM
If you donít like Ozil Iíve got no time for you.

Captain today....
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Martip on December 22, 2018, 05:42:59 PM
Different nationality, different age, different life experiences, different national experience, different top level experience, different position.
 Sandro was an unknown punt relatively speaking, Bernard had a lot on his CV to suggest he'd be good, I think he will become that
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This is all good and well but he needs to start producing at some point....I think he's been a bit lucky that lookman has not nicked his place.

That said you can see he is technically good at times so not completely writing him off atm.

Sandro on the other hand is horse shit.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Ramjam on December 22, 2018, 05:44:29 PM
Different nationality, different age, different life experiences, different national experience, different top level experience, different position.
 Sandro was an unknown punt relatively speaking, Bernard had a lot on his CV to suggest he'd be good, I think he will become that
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Nationality has nothing to do with it, life experiences is very open to interpretation and as far as top level experiences go Sandro played for Barca and Bernardís last international experience is one that heíll want to forget. Iím not saying Sandro is a world beater but he didnít get as much of a chance as Bernard and for some reason people are suggesting that he needs this season and a pre season before we can judge him. I just donít see what he has offered us so far other than one good performance at Leicester
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 22, 2018, 05:46:43 PM
I like watching Bernard on the ball. 1.9 key passes per game at the moment, dropped a bit in recent games from his initial high. Heís not in great form at the moment, and weíve had tough games, but heís a player imo. Maybe wasted out wide.

Watching Sandro fall over the ball wasnít nearly as fun.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on December 22, 2018, 07:55:12 PM
Technically, Bernard is very good

Is the Ukrainian league better than the Russian league?



Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on December 22, 2018, 08:03:05 PM
In what way?

Bernard is a good footballer, Sandro isnít.

Bernard has pace, an excellent touch, and guile.

Sandro is mid-paced, runs with his head down, and has the touch of a rapist.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: School of Science on December 22, 2018, 08:25:56 PM
Are Bernard and Sandro actually being compared as footballers ? Oh my god. Sandro's first touch is akin to Romelu Lukaku's . There is no comparison at all Sandro isn't good enough to lace Bernard's boots.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 22, 2018, 08:33:40 PM
I feel Bernard will be a bit like Pienaar. When he gets used to the physicality of the league we will see a massive improvement.
We will see the best of him next year.
Tbh i dont think he has been poor this season at all either.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on December 22, 2018, 09:36:53 PM
Bring back The Strac!

Sorry - haven't said it in a while - thought I'd give it a go.

Really not feeling Mitrovic. Watched him a few times and he didn't score or look like scoring. His numbers might be good but from the little I've seen of him he's at least one level below what we need.

Haller sounds intriguing - is he a realistic shout or is he off to Madrid or Paris soon?

With the pace we have on the wings now do we need a target man? Some of the best attacking play I've seen is with teams who seem to play with 3 wingers up front like:
                   Walcott
Richarilson                Lookman

Walcott's always wanted it and I think we are his last throw of the big-time dice before he follows Lennon to Burnley or something.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 23, 2018, 01:04:10 AM
Weíve got Richarlison and Walcott who can play through the middle when we want to lead with pace. DCL is a pest and energetic, with decent heading ability.. and Tosun is beneath us.

Iíd like us to sign a player with presence who can make the ball stick and bring in others with some night link up play. I thought Deeney played well against us.. heíd be far too overpriced but a player of that ilk would add another dimension to our play. Giroud would have been perfect but heís been told G Bar is the only decent gaff and would prefer to stay in London.


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Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 23, 2018, 02:16:44 AM
 I would also like us to sign a central striker who will occupy the defenders and judge himself on the goals he scores. Deeney did play quite well against us(and looked a lot trimmer in the flesh) but it's far too late in his career to be going for him.
 I'm glad we missed out on Giroud; he's not really featured for Chelsea and seemed to enhance his reputation on Arsenal's bench because the strikers picked ahead of him were not doing the business.
 
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: stirlingblue on December 23, 2018, 04:12:05 PM
How fast is Calvert-Lewin?

At times he seems like heís fast but thereís been a few occasions where he looks through on goal and then the defender catches him.

Heís great in the air so if heís got the pace too then heís got huge potential
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toffee1 on December 23, 2018, 04:15:38 PM
How fast is Calvert-Lewin?

At times he seems like heís fast but thereís been a few occasions where he looks through on goal and then the defender catches him.

Heís great in the air so if heís got the pace too then heís got huge potential

I wondered that but a lot of the time when he just getting into his stride he falls/slips over.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 23, 2018, 04:16:01 PM
How fast is Calvert-Lewin?

At times he seems like heís fast but thereís been a few occasions where he looks through on goal and then the defender catches him.

Heís great in the air so if heís got the pace too then heís got huge potential

Iíd say heís fairly rapid. I think he gets caught up with because a lot of other players are very quick also. He probably loses a stride or two being young and adjusting his gait I little too consciously because he seems to prefer the finesse finishes.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on December 23, 2018, 04:21:16 PM
How fast is Calvert-Lewin?

At times he seems like heís fast but thereís been a few occasions where he looks through on goal and then the defender catches him.

Heís great in the air so if heís got the pace too then heís got huge potential

Heís lightning, but he shits himself a bit when heís through on goal with the ball at his feet, so he dawdles, which is fatal at the top level.

I really feel this will get better the more consecutive starts he gets.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on December 23, 2018, 04:33:29 PM
How fast is Calvert-Lewin?

At times he seems like heís fast but thereís been a few occasions where he looks through on goal and then the defender catches him.

Heís great in the air so if heís got the pace too then heís got huge potential

Forgive the Mail link but
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6118953/Premier-Leagues-fastest-players-season-revealed.html

So yeah, fairly rapid 😉


I think the ideal striker would be in the Abameyang mould. Obviously we'd never be able to sign him but someone with pace as well as half decent with his back to goal. I've watched their games again Soton and Burnley and his hold up play is fairly impressive and when playing number 9 against Soton he was winning headers and knocking them back to the midfield and retaining possession.

I don't think we want or need a traditional big target man but someone like this. I'd like to believe Calvert Lewin could be an Abameyang type player but he needs to be given a run in the side or sent out on loan or he'll never develop to his full potential.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: School of Science on December 23, 2018, 04:42:19 PM
A youngish Yak  :) would be great in this team.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: sam of the south on December 23, 2018, 04:48:10 PM
A youngish Yak  :) would be great in this team.

So about 56 🤔
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 24, 2018, 01:26:27 AM
only really want 1 of 2 strikers.. one of them isnt going to happen (Gerard Deulofeu)

and the other is the greatest striker i have seen at Everton in the last 20 years.

Lukaku!
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 24, 2018, 01:27:38 AM
only really want 1 of 2 strikers.. one of them isnt going to happen (Gerard Deulofeu)

and the other is the greatest striker i have seen at Everton in the last 20 years.

Lukaku!

HAHAHA
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 24, 2018, 08:11:39 AM
only really want 1 of 2 strikers.. one of them isnt going to happen (Gerard Deulofeu)

and the other is the greatest striker i have seen at Everton in the last 20 years.

Lukaku!
Hard to predict what will happen with Lukaku now with solskjaer. He went straight for the forward line that suits them best and is very effective, bit early but be interesting to see how it plays out for him, don't think he will figure nearly as much as under Jose though, he seemed hell bent on playing him when it wasn't working at all, he may be happy to play a lesser role and just trouser the loot, wether Utd are happy with that might be another matter.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mac934 on December 24, 2018, 08:51:54 PM
Del no, been there, failed. Lukaku, I've been thinking about that a lot. Would he fit into Silva's tactics? I'm not sure. That's to say would he ever come back?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 24, 2018, 10:35:58 PM
Still no word on Lookman then?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheRam on December 24, 2018, 10:40:48 PM
Still no word on Lookman then?

Probably phoning it in again ready for the January window the little tit.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 25, 2018, 12:41:19 AM
Del... Fucking hell.

Let's get Aiden McGeady back while we're at it.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 25, 2018, 01:25:24 AM
Del no, been there, failed. Lukaku, I've been thinking about that a lot. Would he fit into Silva's tactics? I'm not sure. That's to say would he ever come back?
He might fit wouldn't ever crave him back, as for fitting into Silva's tactics that will depend on if Marco has more than one dimension, we'll know the answer to that in the coming weeks..
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Brownie on December 25, 2018, 01:29:42 AM
Lukaku being linked with Juve this morning
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 25, 2018, 01:45:27 AM
Lukaku being linked with Juve this morning
Not surprised by that.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 25, 2018, 02:02:46 AM
Probably phoning it in again ready for the January window the little tit.
Can't blame the lad he's never been given a lot of hope has he? we loaned him out, total club fuck up, we have to improve with the young uns, too easy to blame them...
Title: What striker do we go for?
Post by: stirlingblue on December 26, 2018, 05:36:42 PM
Lukaku being linked with Juve this morning

Not sure where he fits into their lineup though.

Mandzukic is in the form of his life and they've just spend all that money on Ronaldo.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheTone on December 26, 2018, 11:39:02 PM
Think I'll swerve football if Juve sign Lukaku

Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: gizzblue on December 27, 2018, 02:11:29 AM
Fuck that moaning tub O lard.....
who are we linked with ....or who has Brands got up his sleeve 😅
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 27, 2018, 02:33:59 PM
Not sure where he fits into their lineup though.

Mandzukic is in the form of his life and they've just spend all that money on Ronaldo.

Mandzukic is a player I would love at Everton, not that there is any chance of that happening.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Robioto on December 27, 2018, 05:09:58 PM
I'd have Lukaku back in a flash. Never going to happen though.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 27, 2018, 06:27:11 PM
Any of these please:

Batshuayi, Andre Silva, Belloti Or Dolberg. Not fussy really.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 27, 2018, 08:55:31 PM
I'd have Lukaku back in a flash. Never going to happen though.

Same.  Despite all the trash talking on here, it would be massive, and Goodison would explode for him.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2018, 09:55:11 PM
Same.  Despite all the trash talking on here, it would be massive, and Goodison would explode for him.

Heís a human being you shouldnít really be referring to him as ďItĒ regardless of how he treated the club
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Jay on December 28, 2018, 01:55:24 AM
Any of these please:

Batshuayi, Andre Silva, Belloti Or Dolberg. Not fussy really.
Any of those but Batshit, I would be happy with. Not a striker, but still want Renato Sanches, tho that boat has sailed i would think
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Thomas on December 30, 2018, 12:28:37 PM
Mitrovic scored today and looked hungry and dangerous.

If we could sign a TOP CLASS European version of Glenn Murray (who has scored loads of goals, I think more than any other EPL player last year) Troy Deeney, Rondon or Mitrovic that would be good. We need a player who can run but also good with his back to goal.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2018, 05:17:36 PM
I'm clearly missing something with Rondon and Mitrovic, workhorse strikers at best
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 30, 2018, 05:57:52 PM
I'm clearly missing something with Rondon and Mitrovic, workhorse strikers at best

They certainly don't look out of place in our illustrious recent history of strikers that struggle to reach reach double figures:
Johnson
Jelavic
Beattie
Tosun
Vaughan
Anichiebe
McBride
Max-Moore

I'm sure I've missed some really obvious ones off there too
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Mac934 on December 30, 2018, 06:16:00 PM
They certainly don't look out of place in our illustrious recent history of strikers that struggle to reach reach double figures
Johnson
Jelavic
Beattie
Tosun
Vaughan
Anichiebe
McBride
Max-Moore

I'm sure I've missed some really obvious ones off there too
Oumar says hi 👍
             The one and only Denis Straqualarsi
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 30, 2018, 06:33:23 PM
Oumar says hi 👍
             The one and only Denis Straqualarsi

Christ yeah lolol
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 30, 2018, 07:01:57 PM
By the way the Rondon stuff Iím only saying because Iíve long had a thing for him even though heís obviously a workhorse who scores like 4 goals a year.

However, we cross the ball more than anyone in Europe probably. We also rely on our cbís to stick it up top. We donít have a central focal point for attacks, and even after we played well with one the manager dropped him.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2018, 07:13:08 PM
By the way the Rondon stuff I’m only saying because I’ve long had a thing for him even though he’s obviously a workhorse who scores like 4 goals a year.

However, we cross the ball more than anyone in Europe probably. We also rely on our cb’s to stick it up top. We don’t have a central focal point for attacks, and even after we played well with one the manager dropped him.

Tbf Rondon has played under the most negative managers ever so could well do better in a team like ours, or he’d look out of place.

Too expensive and too old now anyway though I think.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Free Agent on December 30, 2018, 08:18:14 PM
Tbf Rondon has played under the most negative managers ever so could well do better in a team like ours, or heíd look out of place.

Too expensive and too old now anyway though I think.

Cavani it is then
Rondo is a poor mans Cavani and we are no longer poor
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bluedylan on December 30, 2018, 08:20:10 PM
Didn't Brands say it's highly unlikely we're buying anyone about 3 days ago?

A lot of wishful thinking in this thread. We need to do better with what we've got.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2018, 08:26:34 PM
He'll only buy if someone regularly in the squad like a Tosun leaves
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueForYou on December 30, 2018, 10:36:32 PM
Fyodor Chalov, worth a £10m bid and could turn out to be top class

Rondon? Deeney? Mitrovic? Murray?

Rather Jay Rodriguez, hampered by injury during his prime and 30 next year, although would still prefer him to Tosun or Niasse

But Seb Haller would top the lot
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheTone on December 31, 2018, 01:10:06 AM
The 2 top teams in the league have pace, power and trickery up front, that's the way forward

The days of constantly whipping in crosses to a target man can get to fuck
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: dchans on December 31, 2018, 02:37:11 AM
Iíd have either the front two from Bournemouth - reckon theyíd do well for us
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: brap2 on December 31, 2018, 03:16:43 AM
I do wonder if some of the reluctance towards Mitrovic is that heís played for unfashionable English teams, and that heís a big lump of a striker.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: TheTone on December 31, 2018, 03:29:11 AM
Reckon Brands will pull a young Louis Saha out the bag
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Trowel on December 31, 2018, 03:47:23 AM
Hopefully Brands watches more than Match of the Day.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 31, 2018, 05:04:01 AM
Reckon Brands will pull a young Louis Saha out the bag

Hopefully leaving the injuries behind in the bag
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: toshyboy on December 31, 2018, 05:17:24 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/12/30/report-everton-and-west-ham-both-keen-on-rescuing-michy-batshuay/

Probably shite, but if anything in it would have to be permanent I think, with us having Zouma on loan
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Risky on December 31, 2018, 05:30:32 AM
Rondon and Mitrovic are absolutely not comparable.

One is an older player who whilst definitely having some qualities, is absolutely not a reliable goalscorer.  The other is a young player with lots of potential and a very underrated goalscoring record.

I'm not saying Mitrovic is the answer or even an exciting player to be linked with, but to categorise him with Rondon is bizarre.  Unless we're literally just going off the fact that they have played for a couple of shit PL teams each?
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Toddacelli on December 31, 2018, 01:50:35 PM
Think with what Brands has said that unless there is a bargain that cannot be missed, or a chance to sign a ridiculously good player, this window will be very quiet.
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Waltzer on December 31, 2018, 08:59:37 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/12/30/report-everton-and-west-ham-both-keen-on-rescuing-michy-batshuay/

Probably shite, but if anything in it would have to be permanent I think, with us having Zouma on loan
Gone off Batshuayi big time, he's 25, got a bang average record everywhere and would probably cost more than most. Stick well clear

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Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: blue1948 on December 31, 2018, 11:22:00 PM
I have read this topic intently and have deduced that the only one worth a look is Messi and he is too one -footed .So it is DCL for us ,someone with promise and not past his sell by date .
Title: Re: What striker do we go for?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 31, 2018, 11:51:27 PM
You know youíre on the scrap heap when your averageness turns into bang averageness.