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Title: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on December 30, 2018, 09:50:32 PM
Holgate going to West Brom on loan
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2018, 10:12:39 PM
Decent move  for him
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2018, 10:19:08 PM
Don't see a place for him really.

Unless he wants to be back up to Keane and Mina next season once Zouma returns but even then, there might be an upgrade bought.

Shame he was so poor earlier this season.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Mac934 on December 30, 2018, 10:25:02 PM
Really improved Galloway's chances moving there on loan didn't it. Hope it works out better for Holgate. Different Manager I know.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: NewsBot on December 30, 2018, 10:30:01 PM
Holgate to join West Brom on loan

Everton defender Mason Holgate is set to join West Brom on loan for the rest of the season after reportedly passing a medical ahead of the move.

Source: Holgate to join West Brom on loan (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2018/12/holgate-to-join-west-brom-on-loan/)
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Ross on December 31, 2018, 12:03:49 AM
I reckon this would be yet another poorly chosen loan they’ve a pretty settled defence and have a young centre back from city on loan there already.

Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Shogun on December 31, 2018, 12:12:32 AM
West Brom fans seem to think they’re crying out for a RB
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Ross on December 31, 2018, 12:16:20 AM
Then they’d be better taking Kenny.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on December 31, 2018, 12:24:09 AM
West Brom fans seem to think they’re crying out for a RB

they're in for a shock then

Holgate is less of a right back than Stones was!
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: brap2 on December 31, 2018, 02:42:26 AM
Really like him, but man he was exposed early on this year. Massive opportunity to step up and get real minutes if you just put in serviceable performances. Bit similar to Davies pre Gomes.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: toshyboy on December 31, 2018, 02:57:04 AM
Then they'd be better taking Kenny.

He’ll be in our team in the coming weeks
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Heath on December 31, 2018, 07:28:21 PM

Best of luck to the lad. Hope he can make it work for himself.

Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on December 31, 2018, 07:49:22 PM
He’ll be in our team in the coming weeks

days
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Martip on December 31, 2018, 07:56:57 PM
days
As mich as it pains me me to say it Coleman needs to be pulled outvifcthe team for a bit. Tbh on recent offerings can't see Kenny would be much worse atm.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on December 31, 2018, 07:58:44 PM
As mich as it pains me me to say it Coleman needs to be pulled outvifcthe team for a bit. Tbh on recent offerings can't see Kenny would be much worse atm.

Kenny will play against Lincoln and will then keep his place

that's if he doesn't play against Leicester

the Lincoln game is an easy way to "rest" Coleman, and when Kenny plays well, he can be kept in for the next Premier League game
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: brap2 on December 31, 2018, 07:58:53 PM
I’ve definitely reached peak revisionism re: Kenny.

We were getting absolutely webbed everywhere down his side when he was in the team. I imagine most managers said ‘hes new, pile in down that side’.

But is Kenny that much worse than Coleman currently is? Maybe worth weathering he storm a bit with Kenny to see if some of his exciting bits show through (e.g pass for Walcott in his last game).
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on December 31, 2018, 08:03:57 PM
I’ve definitely reached peak revisionism re: Kenny.

We were getting absolutely webbed everywhere down his side when he was in the team. I imagine most managers said ‘hes new, pile in down that side’.

But is Kenny that much worse than Coleman currently is? Maybe worth weathering he storm a bit with Kenny to see if some of his exciting bits show through (e.g pass for Walcott in his last game).

I don't think Kenny was the target, I think Walcott was - and still is

I don't think Walcott offers anywhere near enough cover down that side, and with someone else in front of them both Coleman and Kenny would be viewed as much better players than we currently see them
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: brap2 on December 31, 2018, 08:08:40 PM
I don't think Kenny was the target, I think Walcott was - and still is

I don't think Walcott offers anywhere near enough cover down that side, and with someone else in front of them both Coleman and Kenny would be viewed as much better players than we currently see them

Not sure to be honest, think Coleman is finito.

Maybe Bernard swap sides for a bit, he’s tenacious, see how that looks.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: blue1948 on December 31, 2018, 08:38:49 PM
Last season I said after three games that Dowell .Mirallas and Baines wouldn't play much for the season and was slated because only three games had been played ,I was right , although it was more down to a Baines injury than us signing the player we obviously needed .

Well today as a good bye to 2018 I am going to forecast that Bernard and Mina will not make the grade at Everton .

Helmet on and ready for bed, Best wishes to all for the New Year .
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Martip on December 31, 2018, 08:45:09 PM
Kenny will play against Lincoln and will then keep his place

that's if he doesn't play against Leicester

the Lincoln game is an easy way to "rest" Coleman, and when Kenny plays well, he can be kept in for the next Premier League game
Makes a lot of sense
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: TheRam on December 31, 2018, 08:46:38 PM
Last season I said after three games that Dowell .Mirallas and Baines wouldn't play much for the season and was slated because only three games had been played ,I was right , although it was more down to a Baines injury than us signing the player we obviously needed .

Well today as a good bye to 2018 I am going to forecast that Bernard and Mina will not make the grade at Everton .

Helmet on and ready for bed, Best wishes to all for the New Year .

Kieran dowel was on loan at forest, pal and everyone was saying the same about Mirallas

Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on December 31, 2018, 08:55:06 PM
Kieran dowel was on loan at forest, pal and everyone was saying the same about Mirallas



Going to be a big player for us next season.

- Shogun
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: BlueForYou on December 31, 2018, 09:38:11 PM
Don't think Kenny has played many matches (U23's), so would be game rusty; wouldn't be surprised to see him sent out on loan to a promotion challenging Championship side (Birmingham?)

As with Holgate and Dowell, I doubt Silva has Kenny in his plans and another right back signing could emerge in January

Browning would be match-fit and may well be in the mix for a call up against Lincoln

Looking forward to the FA Cup!
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: blue1948 on December 31, 2018, 09:45:54 PM
Kieran dowel was on loan at forest, pal and everyone was saying the same about Mirallas


Did I say my prediction was exclusive pal ,the fact Dowell went on loan was exactly what I was on about.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: blue1948 on December 31, 2018, 09:46:37 PM
Going to be a big player for us next season.

- Shogun
You do know next season never comes !
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Alanvideo on December 31, 2018, 10:04:05 PM
Not sure to be honest, think Coleman is finito.

Maybe Bernard swap sides for a bit, he’s tenacious, see how that looks.
..........................you may be right about Coleman ,he's so slow and predictable when in possession  .Time for Kenny to have a few games starting tomorrow or Lincoln.  I sit directly behind his grandad , will have a word tomorrow. (Taps nose) .
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Shogun on December 31, 2018, 10:50:22 PM
Going to be a big player for us next season.

- Shogun

Glad you’re onboard
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: TheRam on December 31, 2018, 11:01:35 PM
How’s big kev getting on these days?

Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Cereal Killer on December 31, 2018, 11:35:17 PM
A quite bizarre run of posts, too much ale for some already

So anyway, Holgate...
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: BlueForYou on December 31, 2018, 11:40:01 PM
................has played his last game for Everton

Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 31, 2018, 11:49:54 PM
Did I say my prediction was exclusive pal ,the fact Dowell went on loan was exactly what I was on about.

Big shout that Mirallas one. Id be more impressed if people hadn’t been saying this for 2 years prior to you flexing your oracle skills lolol
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: TheRam on January 01, 2019, 12:10:11 AM
Did I say my prediction was exclusive pal ,the fact Dowell went on loan was exactly what I was on about.

Eh?

He went on loan at the start of the season as he had no chance of getting games because we’d signed three players who all play in his position.

It’s hardly a shout worth bringing up 18 months later.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 01, 2019, 03:41:58 AM
Seems like the loan is a way to see if Holgate can kick on as a RB.  I am quite skeptical it will work, but worth a try with our glaring weakness there, and strength at CB.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 01, 2019, 04:10:56 AM
Who was the last Everton player to come back from a loan and push on? I think we're loaning most of these as no-one is prepared to buy them outright.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Escla on January 01, 2019, 04:19:16 AM
Last season I said after three games that Dowell .Mirallas and Baines wouldn't play much for the season and was slated because only three games had been played ,I was right , although it was more down to a Baines injury than us signing the player we obviously needed .

Well today as a good bye to 2018 I am going to forecast that Bernard and Mina will not make the grade at Everton .

Helmet on and ready for bed, Best wishes to all for the New Year .

Beg to differ, Bernard and Mina will both come good but Davies will either be out on loan or occasional bench warmer.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 01, 2019, 04:32:36 AM
Who was the last Everton player to come back from a loan and push on? I think we're loaning most of these as no-one is prepared to buy them outright.

coleman?
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 01, 2019, 04:35:14 AM
coleman?

Good shout! Few and far between though.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Outworlder47 on January 01, 2019, 04:35:35 AM
Who was the last Everton player to come back from a loan and push on? I think we're loaning most of these as no-one is prepared to buy them outright.

Barkley did pretty well after coming back from Sheffield Wednesday and Leeds (which was a disaster). Before that, Coleman.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 01, 2019, 04:44:04 AM
Going to be a big player for us next season.

- Shogun

He’ll be like a new signing.


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Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: TheRam on January 01, 2019, 05:31:22 AM
Who was the last Everton player to come back from a loan and push on? I think we're loaning most of these as no-one is prepared to buy them outright.

Only two I can remember are Osman and Coleman

Both quite old as well in terms of being labelled a ‘youngster’

Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: blue1948 on January 01, 2019, 10:39:50 AM
Big shout that Mirallas one. Id be more impressed if people hadn’t been saying this for 2 years prior to you flexing your oracle skills lolol
The point was not my prowess in forecasting their fates but that I was slagged off because it was only three games into the season .
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Mac934 on January 01, 2019, 12:03:06 PM
Loanees to come back and push on, how about a a certain Mr Neville Southall. He did pretty good on his return from loan!
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Hesmenos on January 01, 2019, 10:18:14 PM
Who was the last Everton player to come back from a loan and push on? I think we're loaning most of these as no-one is prepared to buy them outright.
Kenny, Lookman?
Holgate's position means that he is unlikely to be given sub appearances unless someone gets injured. So he will either have to replace 2 out of Keane/Mina/Zouma as a starter or try and get a good long run on loan. I don't think we're trying to get rid but it will do nothing for his progression to just be sitting around not playing.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on January 05, 2019, 07:10:12 PM
Playing right back today for wba. Hopefully he’s not used there all season.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 07, 2019, 07:35:28 PM
Who was the last Everton player to come back from a loan and push on? I think we're loaning most of these as no-one is prepared to buy them outright.

I think there’s an argument that our youth system makes quite a lot of decent professionals but not much of real quality that could elovate us. We’ve had an underwhelming Ross Barkley in almost 20 years after Rooney. Who was the last top quality player before Rooney.
Title: Re: Holgate to West Brom
Post by: Escla on January 07, 2019, 08:59:59 PM
I think there’s an argument that our youth system makes quite a lot of decent professionals but not much of real quality that could elovate us. We’ve had an underwhelming Ross Barkley in almost 20 years after Rooney. Who was the last top quality player before Rooney.

Only a stream of false dawns like Jeffers, Rodwell, Baxter since.