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Title: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Lxxx on January 04, 2019, 02:57:42 PM
Reports of Niasse off to Palace for £7m.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 04, 2019, 03:57:03 PM
Reports of Niasse off to Palace for £7m.

Sensational if we pull that off
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 04, 2019, 04:01:47 PM
Reports of Niasse off to Palace for £7m.
Him alongside Zaha.... Bedlam
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: brap2 on January 04, 2019, 04:15:36 PM
Him alongside Zaha.... Bedlam

They will win more pens than passes completed.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Lxxx on January 04, 2019, 04:17:01 PM
Wonder if they'll take that £7m as a down payment in the summer for the young lad at right back?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 04, 2019, 04:20:04 PM
Wonder if they'll take that £7m as a down payment in the summer for the young lad at right back?
7m for Niasse and we have first dibs on whatever his name is would be a sound deal
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Gash on January 04, 2019, 04:25:44 PM
Didn't they try and sign him last year as well and he couldn't agree terms?

Hopefully he goes, pretty obvious that he's not got much future here under Silva. We're needing a striker and he still can't get a game.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 04, 2019, 04:27:18 PM
Wonder if they'll take that £7m as a down payment in the summer for the young lad at right back?

Part of the deal to bring Benteke in the other direction  :whistle:
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 04, 2019, 04:27:23 PM
Didn't they try and sign him last year as well and he couldn't agree terms?

Hopefully he goes, pretty obvious that he's not got much future here under Silva. We're needing a striker and he still can't get a game.
Was it this time 2 years back?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Alanvideo on January 04, 2019, 04:36:18 PM
Was it this time 2 years back?

....................yes  the two clubs agreed a deal at the start of the 17/18 season but the agents couldn't agree fees or sumfink.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Gash on January 04, 2019, 04:37:30 PM
Was it this time 2 years back?


You could well be right, I'm sure it was January but it might have been 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: gizzblue on January 04, 2019, 05:10:40 PM
Gonna miss his winning .......

Smile . :Niasse:
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 04, 2019, 05:59:56 PM
Iím not.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 04, 2019, 06:08:41 PM
I'm still angry that Silva brought him on when we were chasing the game at Brighton
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Trowel on January 04, 2019, 06:55:20 PM
Cardiff have also asked about Niasse and been quoted £8m (from Wales Online).
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 04, 2019, 06:58:09 PM
Cardiff have also asked about Niasse and been quoted £8m (from Wales Online).

Huzzah!

A bidding war for Oumar Niasse, who'd have thought it
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 04, 2019, 07:22:58 PM
Jeez, if 8m buys you a Niasse how much for an actual decent one?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 04, 2019, 07:24:04 PM
Was there ever a more "January" January transfer deal?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Shogun on January 04, 2019, 07:35:39 PM
To think we bought him for £13.5m
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: bigmanbob on January 04, 2019, 07:41:13 PM
For a long time I argued the case that for all his misgivings he score's goals, but he's just an embarrassment now and I want him gone
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Shogun on January 04, 2019, 07:50:02 PM
Seems sound but not been able to get into the side under a few managers now including Silva who actually played him during Hull days.

He was treated disgracefully by Koeman and I'm glad he won that battle but time to move on.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: blue1948 on January 04, 2019, 07:55:48 PM
I wish him well ,he seems a sound bloke and his ability is what it is .He never slagged anyone off or the club and for that I thank him .
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Gash on January 04, 2019, 08:03:11 PM
To think we bought him for £13.5m

Show's how much we had our pants pulled that even in these inflated times we're going to lose money on him.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Martip on January 04, 2019, 09:18:22 PM
Cardiff have also asked about Niasse and been quoted £8m (from Wales Online).
If they 'll pay 8m we should take the money and run !
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: blue1948 on January 04, 2019, 09:45:18 PM
If they 'll pay 8m we should take the money and run !
Funny really ,the money isn't yours and you don't care at all about he wants .
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 04, 2019, 09:59:03 PM
7m for Niasse and we have first dibs on whatever his name is would be a sound deal

Itís a nothing clause that though. Canít really tell the lad he canít go to city or Liverpool because theyíve agreed with Everton on his behalf
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 04, 2019, 10:01:29 PM
Weíve done some absolutely shocking business. The market doubles and we still lose 50% on signings.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Martip on January 04, 2019, 10:13:42 PM
Funny really ,the money isn't yours and you don't care at all about he wants .
Bidness is bidness !
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Waltzer on January 05, 2019, 02:16:17 AM
We've done some absolutely shocking business. The market doubles and we still lose 50% on signings.
Don't look at the negatives, we're still getting 7 million more than he's worth

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Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 05, 2019, 02:29:55 AM
Awful player signed by an awful manager.

Be mad if we get 8mil for a fella that literally can't control a footy.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 05, 2019, 02:39:44 AM
Now if only we could get half our money back on Cenk.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 05, 2019, 02:57:57 AM
He brought a smile and relief in the darkest of days, shouldn't forget that...Good Luck to him.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: brap2 on January 05, 2019, 03:12:46 AM
Heíll score goals wherever he goes, but heíll also toey it out of play for absolutely no reason.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Cozzie on January 05, 2019, 03:23:44 AM
I remember when we bought him I said he will give us some hilarious moments of ball mis-control. I was not wrong.

Love the guys effort and endeavour but he is absolute bobbins.

This would be great business.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Alanvideo on January 05, 2019, 03:35:32 AM
For me ,Niasse's finest hour was scoring Hull's second goal v. the shite .We were playing at Goodison that day and suddenly random people kept jumping up and cheering It was WTF until the stadium announcer told us what had happened .It was all the sweeter for him being on loan from Everton . Well in Oumar.    :hail:
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: AllyBlue14 on January 05, 2019, 03:42:38 AM
He's probably my favourite player, gutted if he leaves.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: blueToffee on January 05, 2019, 03:45:47 AM
Perhaps it doesn't say much about the others, but I think if he played the most out of the three strikers we have, I'd put a (smallish) wager that he'd likely score the most goals.

Actually think he'd be a decent fit at Palace, and they desperately need a striker.

If you gave me the choice between 8 mil on Niasse or 19 on Solanke, I know which one I'd pick too.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 05, 2019, 03:48:47 AM
He's probably my favourite player, gutted if he leaves.
I'd keep him over fucking Walcott any day...
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: toshyboy on January 05, 2019, 04:04:44 AM
In a window where Solanke goes a for £19m we should be expecting to recoup our full £13.5m I reckon

That I said Iíd keep him until the summer. Heís no starter and clumsy and awkward and all that, but out of all our forwards heíd be the one Iíd bring off the bench when looking for a goal. Heís shit as a footballer but has a knack for goals which are others forwards donít 
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: brap2 on January 05, 2019, 04:08:10 AM
For me ,Niasse's finest hour was scoring Hull's second goal v. the shite .We were playing at Goodison that day and suddenly random people kept jumping up and cheering It was WTF until the stadium announcer told us what had happened .It was all the sweeter for him being on loan from Everton . Well in Oumar.    :hail:

The video of them fucking redmen tv meffs seeing that go in, absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 05, 2019, 04:12:19 AM
People say he scores goals, but it doesnít reflect the state of the side when he scores them. Itís often when itís arses gone, backs to the wall, pinging hopeful balls anywhere and everywhere hoping he either forces a mistake or spoons one in off his earlobe.

The lad simply canít start games.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: toshyboy on January 05, 2019, 04:15:03 AM
People say he scores goals, but it doesn't reflect the state of the side when he scores them. It's often when it's arses gone, backs to the wall, pinging hopeful balls anywhere and everywhere hoping he either forces a mistake or spoons one in off his earlobe.

The lad simply can't start games.

Agree canít start but impact sub is a role for him
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Waltzer on January 05, 2019, 04:15:16 AM
In a window where Solanke goes a for £19m we should be expecting to recoup our full £13.5m I reckon

That I said I'd keep him until the summer. He's no starter and clumsy and awkward and all that, but out of all our forwards he'd be the one I'd bring off the bench when looking for a goal. He's shit as a footballer but has a knack for goals which are others forwards don't
The main thing Solanke has going for him is hes an unknown quantity, unfortunately Niasse isn't and people know what he's capable (or not) of

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Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Martip on January 05, 2019, 04:18:42 AM
Agree canít start but impact sub is a role for him
I think better to take the cash and save his weekly wage for the little contribution he ll make. £ per minute played would be stupidly high.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Gash on January 05, 2019, 04:19:20 AM
Agree canít start but impact sub is a role for him

It's not though, he's barely even getting that. His run out v Brighton was more deperation from Silva than anything else and it's obvious he doesn't rate him or figure in his plans. Better to try and get some money for him and move him on.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 05, 2019, 04:30:13 AM
In a window where Solanke goes a for £19m we should be expecting to recoup our full £13.5m I reckon

That I said Iíd keep him until the summer. Heís no starter and clumsy and awkward and all that, but out of all our forwards heíd be the one Iíd bring off the bench when looking for a goal. Heís shit as a footballer but has a knack for goals which are others forwards donít 
Every time he's linked with a move someone says keep him until summer/January. Well we have been doing and he's had little or no impact.
His choice looks like being Palace or Cardiff, get some money and move on.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Ross on January 05, 2019, 07:07:45 AM
Think heís being very undervalued if he goes to another premier league club for that sort of money.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2019, 03:46:43 PM
He's shit, sooner he goes the better
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Morta75 on January 09, 2019, 02:02:43 PM
Yes  :badum:
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: eugene on January 09, 2019, 02:58:35 PM
He brought a smile and relief in the darkest of days, shouldn't forget that...Good Luck to him.
App heís had a clause on choice of lockers
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on January 10, 2019, 04:05:22 PM
He's an average impact sub. I'd sooner we try and invest in a quality, tried and tested centre forward and leave DCL and Tosun to fight over the "impact sub" position. The sooner we can get shut the better imo.

For the 30 odd million Arnautiutuueutovic is being quoted for, I'd be in there too. Can play up top or wide left/right, and has pace, strength and certainly knows where the net is. Would also weaken West Ham.

I'm just kind of hoping we have something better in the bag though. No doubt its going to be a long January.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2019, 04:17:59 PM
Get excited everytime I open this thread, only to discover he's still here
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: BlueBeagle on January 10, 2019, 04:23:49 PM
The proverbial Turd that won't flush
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 10, 2019, 04:39:00 PM
He's an average impact sub. I'd sooner we try and invest in a quality, tried and tested centre forward and leave DCL and Tosun to fight over the "impact sub" position. The sooner we can get shut the better imo.

For the 30 odd million Arnautiutuueutovic is being quoted for, I'd be in there too. Can play up top or wide left/right, and has pace, strength and certainly knows where the net is. Would also weaken West Ham.

I'm just kind of hoping we have something better in the bag though. No doubt its going to be a long January.

 :whistle: not to piss on your bonfire but the Arnautovic offer was £35m and they aren't interested in selling, would need to be way more than that to buy him
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on January 10, 2019, 04:52:00 PM
Of course
:whistle: not to piss on your bonfire but the Arnautovic offer was £35m and they aren't interested in selling, would need to be way more than that to buy him

Jeez. Of course they wont be interested in initial bids - no team ever is, but 35 odd is a good starting point. As opposed to say the 50+ mil starting point for Callum Wilson, etc. I think hes worth a lot more than 35 and would love to see him at Everton myself. He's no spring chicken, but could do a job for us. As I say, I would hope for someone even better, but you know us.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 10, 2019, 05:03:25 PM
Meh, starting points/offers, whatever

Both clubs would want over 60m, both ridiculous prices and neither worth consideration
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on January 10, 2019, 05:39:22 PM
I dont give a flying fuck about arbitrary valuations, I want someone to stick the ball in the back of the net and turn some losses into draws and some draws into much needed wins. If Bournemouth beat us at the we will be closer to the relegation positions that the European positions.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Shropshire Blue on January 10, 2019, 10:12:53 PM
I dont give a flying fuck about arbitrary valuations, I want someone to stick the ball in the back of the net and turn some losses into draws and some draws into much needed wins. If Bournemouth beat us at the we will be closer to the relegation positions that the European positions.
I don't think you need to worry about relegation. If it's looking close there was probably some agreement in Sam''s leaving deal about him coming back if necessary.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 10, 2019, 10:33:09 PM
I dont give a flying fuck about arbitrary valuations, I want someone to stick the ball in the back of the net and turn some losses into draws and some draws into much needed wins. If Bournemouth beat us at the we will be closer to the relegation positions that the European positions.

Ok

You're the one who indicated you'd go for Arnautovic for the region of £30m, I pointed out this wasn't ever going to happen

Anyway we digress

Any further news on our Oumar?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: D15TIN on January 10, 2019, 10:38:03 PM
we arnt getting relegated, but could fizzle right out and finish 13th, which isn't acceptable for the money spent
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: kramer0 on January 10, 2019, 10:53:40 PM
It'll be interesting to see if there's an actual market for him or if we end up just letting his contract expire.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: kramer0 on January 10, 2019, 11:09:38 PM
It's kind of fun to look at the disturbingly high number of players we own.

Only Williams, Browning, Jagielka, and Baines (who might get renewed year-to-year while he still has use) come off the books this June.

Brands must be really looking forward to 2020 when we lose Stekelenburg, McCarthy, Martina, Garbutt, Tarashaj, Galloway, Niasse, and Mirallas.

I'm hoping we can also get rid of Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Sandro, and Tosun within the next 6-8 months but it's likely that some of them will still be on the books for the next two seasons (possibly three in Tosun's case).
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: brap2 on January 10, 2019, 11:15:27 PM
It's kind of fun to look at the disturbingly high number of players we own.

Only Williams, Browning, Jagielka, and Baines (who might get renewed year-to-year while he still has use) come off the books this June.

Brands must be really looking forward to 2020 when we lose Stekelenburg, McCarthy, Martina, Garbutt, Tarashaj, Galloway, Niasse, and Mirallas.

I'm hoping we can also get rid of Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Sandro, and Tosun within the next 6-8 months but it's likely that some of them will still be on the books for the next two seasons (possibly three in Tosun's case).

Wonder how much in wages we could free up if we got rid of all of the above. Got to be close to 500k pw.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: kramer0 on January 10, 2019, 11:20:36 PM
Wonder how much in wages we could free up if we got rid of all of the above. Got to be close to 500k pw.

A considerable amount.

And the truly crazy thing is we barely even need to replace any of those players (basically just the forwards).
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Goaljira on January 11, 2019, 03:54:09 AM
Did someone say Bournemouth want £50m for Callum Wilson?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 11, 2019, 04:15:44 AM
Wonder how much in wages we could free up if we got rid of all of the above. Got to be close to 500k pw.

It's the main reason they're still here. No-one else will entertain them at that level of wages.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Martip on January 11, 2019, 04:45:18 AM
Did someone say Bournemouth want £50m for Callum Wilson?
Tbf the amount they overpay for players that's probably about right in their valuations.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 11, 2019, 04:58:36 AM
Palace will pay 10 million for Niasse
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: brap2 on January 11, 2019, 05:43:42 AM
Canít believe I once said Sandroís signing was Ďpotentially seminalí.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on January 11, 2019, 02:07:04 PM
Ok

You're the one who indicated you'd go for Arnautovic for the region of £30m, I pointed out this wasn't ever going to happen

Anyway we digress

Any further news on our Oumar?

No, I said he's being quoted at 30 odd million (mid 30s to China), so I suggested that we could also afford similar bits and probably ending bits of late 30s early 40s. I like him and I reckon he would do a very good job for us. Different thing, but yes, we digress and anyway Batshuayi will do :D
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Trowel on January 17, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
Cardiff linked again, loan with an option to buy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46893849
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 17, 2019, 12:12:49 AM
Cardiff linked again, loan with an option to buy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46893849
Spending 20m on the lad from nantes, they won't be buying niasse
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 17, 2019, 12:20:12 AM
Spending 20m on the lad from nantes, they won't be buying niasse
To be fair isnt their startinh CF a right back? They probably could use more than 1 option up top.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: KingdingalingNL on January 17, 2019, 12:21:22 AM
Just on Sky now as breaking news
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 17, 2019, 12:21:35 AM
To be fair isnt their startinh CF a right back? They probably could use more than 1 option up top.
They could do yeah. Doubt they have the cash tho
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: D15TIN on January 17, 2019, 12:24:35 AM
Goodbye my African prince
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: TheTone on January 17, 2019, 12:28:17 AM
scoring at the weekend innit
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: TheTone on January 17, 2019, 12:31:14 AM
Ffs thought he had gone to Palace for actual money
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Gash on January 17, 2019, 12:35:13 AM
Still can't get any proper money for him.

Watch him score two in ten minutes, then another two in ten games, probably get dropped and still people will be raving about what a successful loan spell it's been and we should have kept him. ;)
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 17, 2019, 12:40:43 AM
This is the type of deal you do last minute. Too early in the window to entertain a loan.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on January 17, 2019, 12:45:30 AM
This is the type of deal you do last minute. Too early in the window to entertain a loan.

My thoughts too.

But the optimist in me is stating that Brands said there wouldn't be much movement in without outgoing first, maybe we have a striker lined up and need the wages off the books asap?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: D15TIN on January 17, 2019, 12:46:09 AM
he'll get 5 or 6 goals between now and the end of the season just through sheer persistence and work rate.

They just need to ignore his first touch and stick with him, he'll get goals through nicking the ball off defenders and finishing with his bollocks or something

strangest striker ever
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Brownie on January 17, 2019, 12:51:07 AM
he'll get 5 or 6 goals between now and the end of the season just through sheer persistence and work rate.

They just need to ignore his first touch and stick with him, he'll get goals through nicking the ball off defenders and finishing with his bollocks or something

strangest striker ever

Pretty much the description Iíve just given my friend
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Escla on January 17, 2019, 12:54:30 AM
Will he be the first and last player to get a retrospective ban for diving ?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Martip on January 17, 2019, 01:00:23 AM
Thing is we don't have much to gain from just sanctioning the loan. He's not great so they wont want to buy him after they 've sampled the goods so we should have held our nerve.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: sam of the south on January 17, 2019, 01:02:13 AM
Canít believe I once said Sandroís signing was Ďpotentially seminalí.

Seminal fluid more like
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: DanDan on January 17, 2019, 01:03:47 AM
Joyce has confirmed it and has an option to buy at end of season
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Martip on January 17, 2019, 01:05:11 AM
Joyce has confirmed it and has an option to buy at end of season
So he's back here next season !
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Lxxx on January 17, 2019, 01:05:32 AM
Destined to go on loan until his contract expires. Heís useful in short bursts but not useful enough for anyone to pay actual money for his services permanently.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Bluedylan on January 17, 2019, 01:09:15 AM
We should take Martinez to court for this transfer. He should be made to pay Niasse's wages personally, until the contract ends
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 17, 2019, 01:30:26 AM
Please don't come back
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: D15TIN on January 17, 2019, 01:45:54 AM
We should take Martinez to court for this transfer. He should be made to pay Niasse's wages personally, until the contract ends
let us not forget he had Ahmed Elmohamady signed up on a bosman before he left. Dear god, where was that man taking us.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: eugene on January 17, 2019, 01:56:51 AM
let us not forget he had Ahmed Elmohamady signed up on a bosman before he left. Dear god, where was that man taking us.
Championship?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Simon Paul on January 17, 2019, 02:00:49 AM
let us not forget he had Ahmed Elmohamady signed up on a bosman before he left. Dear god, where was that man taking us.

Wembley?

;)
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: D15TIN on January 17, 2019, 02:03:50 AM
Wembley?

;)
championship play off possibly
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Simon Paul on January 17, 2019, 02:07:20 AM
championship play off possibly

but for a lazy-as-shit penalty we'd have been in the FA Cup Final in his last season, and not relegated (because we were already safe)

the club took too long though and genuinely weren't going to even think of sacking him until he lost the derby game so heavily.  absolutely crazy that.  imagine if he'd "only" got beat by 2 and then Lukaku took a penalty properly....no chance he'd have been given the boot by that board at that point.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Martip on January 17, 2019, 02:11:06 AM
but for a lazy-as-shit penalty we'd have been in the FA Cup Final in his last season, and not relegated (because we were already safe)

the club took too long though and genuinely weren't going to even think of sacking him until he lost the derby game so heavily.  absolutely crazy that.  imagine if he'd "only" got beat by 2 and then Lukaku took a penalty properly....no chance he'd have been given the boot by that board at that point.
Fine margins
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Gash on January 17, 2019, 02:11:42 AM
but for a lazy-as-shit penalty we'd have been in the FA Cup Final in his last season, and not relegated (because we were already safe)

the club took too long though and genuinely weren't going to even think of sacking him until he lost the derby game so heavily.  absolutely crazy that.  imagine if he'd "only" got beat by 2 and then Lukaku took a penalty properly....no chance he'd have been given the boot by that board at that point.

Just think, we'd be about year behind where we are just now as he'd have got sacked the following season and Sam Allardyce would still be our manager.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Simon Paul on January 17, 2019, 02:19:06 AM
Fine margins

difficult to argue against that though when you look at the mismanagement of the Bournemouth game from him, and the Chelsea goal that should never have been.  We'd have had some good results there, but the "fine margins" scuppered it.  One there was his own doing, and perhaps the second one too as you can't rely on officials to help you out when you lose possession so cheaply at such a key stage - no matter how obvious the decision was!

Just think, we'd be about year behind where we are just now as he'd have got sacked the following season and Sam Allardyce would still be our manager.

I don't think we'd have gone for Koeman at that stage as the rot would have set in at Southampton and his stock would have fallen.  I think we'd have got someone better.  Like a pile of recycled toilet rolls.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: kramer0 on January 17, 2019, 04:02:25 AM
We chose Ronald Koeman when Lucien Favre was on the shortlist.

*shakes head in disgust*
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 17, 2019, 04:16:39 AM
Honest to god why the fuck did that bald cunt spend nearly 14mil on him?

If you have that money to spend (still a decent amount back then) why would you spend it on someone who plays like his boots are on the wrong feet?

It'll be a sad day if we ever see him in an Everton shirt again.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 17, 2019, 04:20:21 AM
Can't imagine he even saw him play live. I mean you can't just nip off to Russia un-noticed these days.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Gash on January 17, 2019, 04:30:43 AM
Honest to god why the fuck did that bald cunt spend nearly 14mil on him?

If you have that money to spend (still a decent amount back then) why would you spend it on someone who plays like his boots are on the wrong feet?

It'll be a sad day if we ever see him in an Everton shirt again.

If he ever plays for us again we really have fucked up our search for a top striker.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: kramer0 on January 17, 2019, 04:49:10 AM
The worst thing about this transfer has always been the disconnect between Niasse's playing style and Martinez's "philosophy."

No sane person would sign this player for a possession-based approach.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: BlueBeagle on January 17, 2019, 04:51:09 AM
McGeady, Alcaraz, Kone, Niasse.

Phenomenal.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: TheRam on January 17, 2019, 04:55:34 AM
He defo didnít watch him.

He lied about scouting Besic for two years, only to say he signed him off the back of the World Cup.

Thereís a backhander in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 17, 2019, 04:57:57 AM
Just think he's a clueless idiot and genuinely thought they were good players.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: kramer0 on January 17, 2019, 04:58:30 AM
He defo didnít watch him.

He lied about scouting Besic for two years, only to say he signed him off the back of the World Cup.

Thereís a backhander in there somewhere.

It makes you wonder what Kevin Reeves even did.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: TheRam on January 17, 2019, 05:00:42 AM
Apart from Lukaku and Barry did he sign any actually good players?

Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: kramer0 on January 17, 2019, 05:04:04 AM
Apart from Lukaku and Barry did he sign any actually good players?

Deulofeu and Holgate were worth the money.

I think McCarthy could have been a quality player if he had gotten better coaching at that phase of his career. He stagnated big time under Martinez. Then the injuries started happening.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: GLewis on January 17, 2019, 05:04:37 AM
Apart from Lukaku and Barry did he sign any actually good players?



McCarthy was good for needing to cover the gaps and as long as he had a progressive passer next to him.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: brap2 on January 17, 2019, 05:09:51 AM
McCarthy was good for needing to cover the gaps and as long as he had a progressive passer next to him.

His defensive output in his first season here was Gueye level.

I agree with Kramer though that for the tools he has he could have had more up and down about him if he had been under the right coach.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: kramer0 on January 17, 2019, 05:18:27 AM
His defensive output in his first season here was Gueye level.

I agree with Kramer though that for the tools he has he could have had more up and down about him if he had been under the right coach.

He's scored as many league goals with Wigan and Everton as he did with Hamilton as a teenager (I know, SPL, but still). It's crazy how he stopped shooting under Martinez.

He also had the technique to be much more than a sideways pass master.

It really is a shame. I was made up when we signed him but injuries and poor coaching tanked his career.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Brownie on January 17, 2019, 05:31:32 AM
Lots of debate down here about this move. Loads of City fans happy that they gave signed a striker - any striker
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: TheRam on January 17, 2019, 05:36:55 AM
Lots of debate down here about this move. Loads of City fans happy that they gave signed a striker - any striker

Give him the ball in the box and heíll bag.

Just donít expect him to do anything else.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Brownie on January 17, 2019, 05:49:42 AM
Give him the ball in the box and heíll bag.

Just donít expect him to do anything else.

Heíll get a few goals down here and be one a cult hero is my guess
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: GLewis on January 17, 2019, 12:54:51 PM
He's scored as many league goals with Wigan and Everton as he did with Hamilton as a teenager (I know, SPL, but still). It's crazy how he stopped shooting under Martinez.

He also had the technique to be much more than a sideways pass master.

It really is a shame. I was made up when we signed him but injuries and poor coaching tanked his career.

His best games post 13/14 were when we played more 4-1-4-1/ 4-3-3 and he was further forward then the DM.

Think he scored pretty regularly albeit only small sample.

Utd home 14/15 (3-0); Norwich home 15/16 (3-0); and Bournemouth home 16/17 (3-0).

This allowed him to use his energy more vertically and limited the times he got on the ball deeper which exposed confidence issues in possession.

Another thing I will say is that heís been picked by Martinez, Unsworth x2, Koeman, and Allardyce when fit.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Free Agent on January 17, 2019, 05:24:11 PM
Lots of debate down here about this move. Loads of City fans happy that they gave signed a striker - any striker

Their current striker is a right back by trade I think.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: AllyBlue14 on January 17, 2019, 05:52:01 PM
Still gutted he's going/gone. Yeah yeah he's not a classically 'good' striker but by arse or by elbow he's good for double figures each season. I just wish we could instil half of his attitude and enthusiasm into some of the current squad (and then maybe half of their technical ability into him).

I received a signed photo for Christmas - because who needs electricity when Oumar's smile can light up a room?

Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: brap2 on January 17, 2019, 05:54:57 PM
What happened to Kenneth Zohore
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Waltzer on January 17, 2019, 06:24:12 PM
Still gutted he's going/gone. Yeah yeah he's not a classically 'good' striker but by arse or by elbow he's good for double figures each season. I just wish we could instil half of his attitude and enthusiasm into some of the current squad (and then maybe half of their technical ability into him).

I received a signed photo for Christmas - because who needs electricity when Oumar's smile can light up a room?



I think its a little harsh on some of the other players we have, im sure they all give their all and I haven't seen anything to suggest they have bad attitudes? Yes, Niasse does have an infectious smile but you cant hide the fact hes a terrible footballer. He might get double figures but so would many others, many others would also contribute significantly more than he could ever dream of, which is where the real emphasis should be.
Personally really happy to see him go, but wish him all the best at the same time
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 17, 2019, 06:36:32 PM
Ecstatic he's gone to be honest, wish him well like but nowhere near good enough
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Bluedylan on January 17, 2019, 06:40:04 PM
I don't think anyone who thinks it was an awful transfer, or is really glad he's gone, means any ill will towards the lad himself.

He's been a credit to himself in a lot of ways in terms of attitude and effort. He just can't really play football, which has been the main problem.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: AllyBlue14 on January 17, 2019, 07:06:50 PM
I think its a little harsh on some of the other players we have, im sure they all give their all and I haven't seen anything to suggest they have bad attitudes? Yes, Niasse does have an infectious smile but you cant hide the fact hes a terrible footballer. He might get double figures but so would many others, many others would also contribute significantly more than he could ever dream of, which is where the real emphasis should be.
Personally really happy to see him go, but wish him all the best at the same time

Yeah, I don't particularly disagree. The comment about the attitude wasn't necessarily that other players had a bad attitude, just that Oumar has had to show a lot of mettle after constantly being written off and humiliated - and that, probably more than anything else, is his greatest attribute.

I pretty much agree on the other points too, although I don't think finding goal-scorers is as easy as you may suggest. If that were the case, we could've just brought in a couple and wouldn't still be trying to replace Lukaku's output.

Not necessarily the point because the system we play needs a more rounded contribution, but I still think Niasse would outscore DCL and Tosun over the course of a full season.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: kramer0 on January 17, 2019, 07:32:35 PM
What happened to Kenneth Zohore

It looks like he has 7 appearances and no goals this season.

More importantly, Everton didn't panic sign him for £30m (plus) last summer.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Brownie on January 17, 2019, 07:48:18 PM
What happened to Kenneth Zohore

Injured most of the season.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Escla on January 17, 2019, 08:57:10 PM
Injured most of the season.
r

How much of Oumars 55k a week do you think Cardiff will pay ?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 17, 2019, 09:18:42 PM
Niasse to Cardiff not done yet
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: everton1952 on January 17, 2019, 09:33:32 PM
Probably just a loan and he remains on our paylist. Don't feel sorry for him. He is on a mega salary compared to the average person, and yet is a crap footballer as well. Life can't be bad for him really. Nice smile though as everyone says.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 17, 2019, 09:37:14 PM
Does he even work any harder than the other players in our team or is it just because he's that shit it's all that stands out?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: TheRam on January 17, 2019, 09:53:10 PM
Grim when you have to praise a player for working hard.

Whoís arsed .
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 17, 2019, 09:54:25 PM
Not a footballer at all is he, he well won a raffle or something, first prize was to have a kick about with a professional team
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: BlueBeagle on January 17, 2019, 09:55:06 PM
r

How much of Oumars 55k a week do you think Cardiff will pay ?

They'd be having their pants pulled down if it's anything over a fucking fiver tbh
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 17, 2019, 09:55:56 PM
Grim when you have to praise a player for working hard.

Whoís arsed .

Pretty much the bare minimum you expect isn't it?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: blue1948 on January 17, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Does he even work any harder than the other players in our team or is it just because he's that shit it's all that stands out?

It is his smile and effort that sets him apart.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: blue1948 on January 17, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
Grim when you have to praise a player for working hard.

Whoís arsed .
Do you mean that it doesn't matter if a player works hard?
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 18, 2019, 05:31:51 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1086223713673068545
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Waltzer on January 18, 2019, 05:42:44 PM
Palace are apparently after Cenk
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Macca77 on January 18, 2019, 05:47:11 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1086223713673068545

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9IgG50Fb7Mi0prBC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 19, 2019, 12:50:13 AM
 Wish the fella well. At least when he played he gave it everything and showed great character after the way he was treated.
Title: Re: Niasse to Palace
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on January 19, 2019, 08:40:59 PM
Starts today for Cardiff. Bet he runs the show and bags twice!