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Title: Who should be Captain
Post by: Robber Rodwell on January 04, 2019, 09:08:44 PM
Obviously our team seems to be playing with no will or showing any heart.  I love Seamus Coleman, however there seems to be a void of leadership in the team.

Would a change of Captain help, and if so who would you choose in the current squad?

Back in 2011 when the team visited Philadelphia, I was able to watch them train in front of a small group.  One player whose intensity, leadership and competitiveness stood out was Phil Neville.  This shocked me as I always classed Phil as a donkey, not fit to wear the shirt.  Even though this was preseason training, he was in everyoneís face.

I believe we are missing this extra bite right now.  I would give Richarlison the armband to shake things up.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 04, 2019, 09:11:16 PM
The lad who can't speak English, Now that would "shake it up" as you say
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: D15TIN on January 04, 2019, 09:13:27 PM
Richarlison ha, think Colemans got those leadership qualities but people seem to have gone off him now, sigurdssons a mute and cant do it, jagielka was the same.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Alanvideo on January 04, 2019, 09:27:25 PM
I can only think of Digne and Pickford being vocal enough to be the sort of old-fashioned captain we might need .
Not saying that would be the answer to our current problems like.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 04, 2019, 10:04:42 PM
Itís a bit of a nothing title is captain. A proper team should have ďcaptainsĒ all over the park. Very worrying that we might not have any
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: TheRam on January 04, 2019, 10:29:03 PM
It really doesnít matter.

Having said that, giving the armband to Richarlison is a proper mad shout.

Itíll probably go to Keane once Coleman goes.

Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: markB on January 04, 2019, 10:40:06 PM
Gomes  (if we can get him signed up )

just something the other Neville said about him after the 7-1 thumping they got

and I am of the mindset that a captain only maters in the game now if he is a good one
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 05, 2019, 12:40:19 AM
Digne or Gana
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Waltzer on January 05, 2019, 01:14:15 AM
This isn't going to go down well, but I think a natural captain for us would be Mccarthy. I'm personally hoping he comes back and has a good injury free run, I get that most think he's litter but I actually rate him and think he'll improve our midfield when he returns for 2 to 3 games before getting sidelined again!!

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Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: BlueBeagle on January 05, 2019, 01:18:07 AM
This isn't going to go down well, but I think a natural captain for us would be Mccarthy. I'm personally hoping he comes back and has a good injury free run, I get that most think he's litter but I actually rate him and think he'll improve our midfield when he returns for 2 to 3 games before getting sidelined again!!

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Is it just an Everton thing where the longer a player is out, the more people rate him I wonder?
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Waltzer on January 05, 2019, 01:22:56 AM
Is it just an Everton thing where the longer a player is out, the more people rate him I wonder?
Possibly? He's been exempt from the shit served up for the best part of a year

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Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: BlueForYou on January 05, 2019, 01:33:44 AM
We need a leader and we don't have one

I would continue Coleman as captain with Pickford for vice-captain

Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: BlueBeagle on January 05, 2019, 01:35:51 AM
Possibly? He's been exempt from the shit served up for the best part of a year

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Valid point I suppose
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 05, 2019, 01:37:00 AM
This isn't going to go down well, but I think a natural captain for us would be Mccarthy. I'm personally hoping he comes back and has a good injury free run, I get that most think he's litter but I actually rate him and think he'll improve our midfield when he returns for 2 to 3 games before getting sidelined again!!

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lolol
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 05, 2019, 03:22:15 AM
This isn't going to go down well, but I think a natural captain for us would be Mccarthy. I'm personally hoping he comes back and has a good injury free run, I get that most think he's litter but I actually rate him and think he'll improve our midfield when he returns for 2 to 3 games before getting sidelined again!!

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Don't think we should off hire him yet, we might be glad of him.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 05, 2019, 03:43:26 AM
This isn't going to go down well, but I think a natural captain for us would be Mccarthy. I'm personally hoping he comes back and has a good injury free run, I get that most think he's litter but I actually rate him and think he'll improve our midfield when he returns for 2 to 3 games before getting sidelined again!!

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Haha. Good one.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Martip on January 05, 2019, 03:52:02 AM
This isn't going to go down well, but I think a natural captain for us would be Mccarthy. I'm personally hoping he comes back and has a good injury free run, I get that most think he's litter but I actually rate him and think he'll improve our midfield when he returns for 2 to 3 games before getting sidelined again!!

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If ever there was an example of why you should stay away from class a drugs it's this post.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: TheRam on January 05, 2019, 04:32:41 AM
Canít wait to see the back of him.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Silas on January 05, 2019, 05:02:22 AM
I have no issues with Mc Carthy he's a decent player who is ridiculously injury prone but he's not a player for Everton in 2019
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Goaljira on January 05, 2019, 05:50:11 AM
Tom Davies.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: bluestevie on January 05, 2019, 05:56:23 AM
If ever there was an example of why you should stay away from class a drugs it's this post.

Says the guy who, in the transfer thread, thinks selling Pickford for £50m, replacing him with a United understudy and spending the £50m on a largely unknown midfielder is a great idea
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Ross on January 05, 2019, 07:02:21 AM
Tom Davies.

Donít give him a ďfree passĒ!


Personally Iíd go for Theo Walcott. At least with an armband on him you could spot the bugger somewhere on the pitch.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 05, 2019, 07:19:02 AM
We donít have any other options that stand out, so stick with Coleman.

I wonder if Keane is vocal or not. Couldnít have Mina as our leader and captain, he cheats too much.


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Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: blue1948 on January 05, 2019, 11:50:57 AM
Zouma
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Ramjam on January 05, 2019, 12:12:33 PM
Pickford is the only leader in the team, yes his form has dipped but he is a big personality that will give his all for the club and to the opening post Robber you are 100% about Neville, he was a fuckin donkey and still is.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Juanito on January 05, 2019, 12:45:40 PM
I donít see the point in giving it to players who are not out  of their adolescence. Davies, Pickford barely is. I also think it was a good point on Phil Neville. People didnít like him but he would attempt to raise our team and morale, visibly. I donít see anyone doing that now.  We also donít seem to have anyone who can turn a game with his blood and thunder like challenge against Ronaldo.

Coleman seems to be too concerned with his own performance and the awareness of his decreasing dynamism.  Keane seems an ok shout. He has improved dramatically and should only get better and more influential.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: TSGun on January 05, 2019, 01:04:05 PM
I can understand we're judging the on field performance and personality of individuals for the basis of selecting a captain but surely there's a tad more to it than that.

The off field qualities, which are unknown to most if not all of us, are equally important are they not? The consummate professional, the role model, the listener, the arbitrator, the passionately driven, the friend, the thinker, the tactician, the self sacrificial...etc
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Escla on January 05, 2019, 01:07:43 PM
Zouma

Not our player
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Mac934 on January 05, 2019, 04:54:51 PM
Mina for me, you watch him, he is always talking and giving verbals. Ok he is not the finished article yet. But he has the 'bite'  maybe needed to push other players on. And his off-field attidude appears second to none.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: blue1948 on January 05, 2019, 05:07:11 PM
Not our player
What isn't he ?
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: farnhamtoffee on January 05, 2019, 05:52:35 PM
If we sign Gomez on a permanent deal,i would prefer him as captain than anyone else.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 05, 2019, 06:54:34 PM
sad state of affairs we have no obvious player who is captain material.,, we used to have plenty of players who were captain material only a few seasons back. I'd probably give it to Gana.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: mikey_blue on January 05, 2019, 07:06:14 PM
Zouma. Once we sign him.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Lxxx on January 06, 2019, 04:49:38 PM
Digne looks to have a mouth on him, never stops working and is close to being our most important player. If your captain is showing you how itís done on the pitch and digs you out for not matching his effort then that works for me.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 06, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
Not that long ago everyone was saying it has to be Coleman, noone else, simply Coleman
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Lxxx on January 06, 2019, 05:22:02 PM
Not that long ago everyone was saying it has to be Coleman, noone else, simply Coleman

Until Colemanís return showed us heís no longer an automatic choice in the team.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 06, 2019, 05:26:06 PM
Until Coleman's return showed us he's no longer an automatic choice in the team.
Is there an argument that its form or have the masses decided he's finished?
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: NickNack on January 06, 2019, 05:30:14 PM
Is there an argument that its form or have the masses decided he's finished?
Way too soon to say heís finished IMO
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: boothill on January 06, 2019, 05:35:16 PM
I wouldnt have pickford anywhere near the captaincy, he needs to just concentrate on ironing out his lapses in concentration and become a good keeper

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Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Alanvideo on January 06, 2019, 05:39:14 PM
Coleman isn't finished but the introduction of Digne ,at the expense of the excellent Baines , shows how much of an improvement can be made in specific positions.
I don't think Kenny is quite there and I expect to see Coleman back in for Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: boothill on January 06, 2019, 05:42:19 PM
I don't see the point in giving it to players who are not out  of their adolescence. Davies, Pickford barely is. I also think it was a good point on Phil Neville. People didn't like him but he would attempt to raise our team and morale, visibly. I don't see anyone doing that now.  We also don't seem to have anyone who can turn a game with his blood and thunder like challenge against Ronaldo.

Coleman seems to be too concerned with his own performance and the awareness of his decreasing dynamism.  Keane seems an ok shout. He has improved dramatically and should only get better and more influential.
Phil Neville was a very good captain,  we've had no drive or direction since he left.  Didnt hide, shirk or take any prisoners. Would just like one of our current players to show an ounce of his leadership skills,  we wouldnt be getting bullied as much by opposing teams

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Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Lxxx on January 06, 2019, 05:45:54 PM
Is there an argument that its form or have the masses decided he's finished?

Quite possibly. In which case we should wait and see before nailing our captains colours to any particular mast.
 
Iíd love for him to regain his old form but an injury like that can take itís toll mentally as well as physically.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Martip on January 06, 2019, 05:58:20 PM
Quite possibly. In which case we should wait and see before nailing our captains colours to any particular mast.
 
Iíd love for him to regain his old form but an injury like that can take itís toll mentally as well as physically.
I think the problem is that his game was based around fitness and getting up and down his side of the pitch as he was never the most cultured player but the injuries have take their toll unfortunately.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Lxxx on January 06, 2019, 06:06:14 PM
His biggest problem is Digne coming in and showing us what a young dynamic full back looks like again. The contrast between the two has highlighted where heís at currently and what we should be aspiring to again on both flanks.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Mac934 on January 06, 2019, 06:20:14 PM
Phil Neville was a very good captain,  we've had no drive or direction since he left.  Didnt hide, shirk or take any prisoners. Would just like one of our current players to show an ounce of his leadership skills,  we wouldnt be getting bullied as much by opposing teams

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d Rooney was also a good Captain, led from the front, unfortunately he led from the back, sides, top and bottom also. We don't have anyone in the mould of, Labone, Ball, Kendall, Lyons and Ratcliffe for example in the squad nowadays. All true leaders.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 06, 2019, 06:39:52 PM
Phil Neville was a very good captain,  we've had no drive or direction since he left.  Didnt hide, shirk or take any prisoners. Would just like one of our current players to show an ounce of his leadership skills,  we wouldnt be getting bullied as much by opposing teams

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Fucking shite little snitch though wasnt he.
Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: TheRam on January 06, 2019, 07:17:29 PM
Coleman is finished like.

Title: Re: Who should be Captain
Post by: boothill on January 07, 2019, 12:40:03 AM
Fucking shite little snitch though wasnt he.
Not arsed about that tbh lizz

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