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Title: Vlasic Interview
Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2019, 04:31:51 PM
I donít see anything wrong in what heís said, and I get the feeling that he would come back and play well if he was wanted


https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2019/1/10/18176081/nikola-vlasic-transfer-rumours-cska-moscow-everton-champions-league-comments-koeman-silva-allardyce
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: mikey_blue on January 10, 2019, 04:47:04 PM
I really like him. When he was here I thought he looked a better prospect than Lookman. Hopefully he gets his chance next season. Either that or we sign some superstar and Iíll happily forget about him.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2019, 04:59:11 PM
He's not good enough
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Waltzer on January 10, 2019, 05:02:36 PM
He's not good enough

Little too early to judge a 21 year old i think. Personally think he'll go further than any of the other under 21s in or around our squad and we'll regret getting rid, if we do!?
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: brap2 on January 10, 2019, 05:17:34 PM
Thereís some bombastic headlines out there but Iíve seen a closer translation that basically says we want to emulate Tottenham, and he expects us to spend more money in the future to try and crack the big 6 so feels likely to be sold.

Will be a shame to lose him as heís one of the most talented in his age group in the world arguably.

if he goes I want a profit.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2019, 05:31:09 PM
Thereís some bombastic headlines out there but Iíve seen a closer translation that basically says we want to emulate Tottenham, and he expects us to spend more money in the future to try and crack the big 6 so feels likely to be sold.

Will be a shame to lose him as heís one of the most talented in his age group in the world arguably.

if he goes I want a profit.

Really? He's done nothing to justify the hype
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Shogun on January 10, 2019, 05:31:31 PM
Rate him me
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2019, 05:39:09 PM
Thereís some bombastic headlines out there but Iíve seen a closer translation that basically says we want to emulate Tottenham, and he expects us to spend more money in the future to try and crack the big 6 so feels likely to be sold.

Will be a shame to lose him as heís one of the most talented in his age group in the world arguably.

if he goes I want a profit.

Thatís exactly what the article says
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 10, 2019, 05:43:05 PM
I like him
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on January 10, 2019, 05:46:47 PM
He's young and talented enough to keep the faith in him a little longer...
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: brap2 on January 10, 2019, 05:50:47 PM
Thatís exactly what the article says

Apologies, seen a few traditional news outlets running with more errr spicy headlines.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2019, 05:51:07 PM
Looked very average whenever he played, not arsed about his form in the Russian league, Niasse looked like a world beater there.

Worth another look maybe, but not a loss at all if we sell him.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Waltzer on January 10, 2019, 05:56:11 PM
Really? He's done nothing to justify the hype

Hes done loads more than Lookman, DCL and Davies combined. Hes played 6 CL games this season, got 2 assists and 3 goals including the winner against Real and was named MOTM. His record this season is 1 goal every 3 games as an attacking midfielder, this is after going to a new league, albeit not the strongest, adapting and performing well. I dont think anyone has hyped him up, just saying there appears to be potential and it'd be a shame for him not to get the chance others have
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: TheRam on January 10, 2019, 05:56:38 PM
Looked very average whenever he played, not arsed about his form in the Russian league, Niasse looked like a world beater there.

Worth another look maybe, but not a loss at all if we sell him.

Nah, looked a talent when he played.

Has also played well in the champions league and is a player a lot of people in the game rate highly.

Would be a shame to sell him but I fear thereís no way back for him.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on January 10, 2019, 05:58:56 PM
Would be nice if we invented a time travelling machine and played him in the last half dozen games as our right sided attacking mid.

Just to see like :D
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Waltzer on January 10, 2019, 05:59:20 PM
Niasse looked like a world beater there.


FFS again!! Niasse never, ever, ever looked like a world beater in Russia, he never won Player of The Year, he had a purple patch where he scored a few goals, thats it
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 10, 2019, 06:02:50 PM
Looked very average whenever he played, not arsed about his form in the Russian league, Niasse looked like a world beater there.



no he didnt...
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2019, 06:15:49 PM
Apologies, seen a few traditional news outlets running with more errr spicy headlines.

Oh yeah, the article itself is stirring a fair amount, but at least it quotes Vlasic correctly and in full
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2019, 06:19:36 PM
FFS again!! Niasse never, ever, ever looked like a world beater in Russia, he never won Player of The Year, he had a purple patch where he scored a few goals, thats it

Didn't say he won the player of the year, we bought him because he was scoring goals most weeks, lets be honest here, the Russian league is on a par with the Scottish Prem, its shite.

Now I'm not completely writing Vlasic off here, if he comes back and gets another chance then hopefully he will prove me and a lot of others wrong, just saying he's not a loss if we decide sell.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on January 10, 2019, 06:20:54 PM
Unless he turns out to be a good player, then hes a MASSIVE loss...
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Waltzer on January 10, 2019, 06:47:45 PM
Didn't say he won the player of the year, we bought him because he was scoring goals most weeks, lets be honest here, the Russian league is on a par with the Scottish Prem, its shite.

Now I'm not completely writing Vlasic off here, if he comes back and gets another chance then hopefully he will prove me and a lot of others wrong, just saying he's not a loss if we decide sell.

I know you didnt, but thats usually chucked out with comments like he was tearing it up over there.
And it really isnt that weak, its not comparable in terms of depth as the Premiership but CSKA in particular regularly get to the group stages of the CL and Lokomotiv, Spartak and Zenit are decent sides.Celtic, on comparison have done twice in the previous 5 years and they're the only Scottish team that have got anywhere near it. Our arrogance would probably say we'd beat all of them easily, but im not sure, and Im pretty sure we wont ever do the double over Real in the Champions League like CSKA did this year
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: GLewis on January 10, 2019, 06:56:04 PM
I like Vlasic.

Seems to fall out fairly easily with managers though.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Hawkandro on January 10, 2019, 07:36:50 PM
Both Vlasic and Bernard could both potentially be the answer to our No.10 conundrum, if we do decide to sale Gylfi.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: kramer0 on January 10, 2019, 07:37:23 PM
One of the few players in our squad I actually enjoyed watching last season.

His balance is impressive and the fact that he actually understood where his teammates were in the final third stuck out big time in last year's team.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: arteta4spain on January 10, 2019, 07:41:04 PM
Gonna get shot down here but if I was Silva Iíd be like well he doesnít wanna fight for his place by the sounds of it and it sounds quite defeatist.
Unless Iíve only got a small chunk of the interview through ssn then I apologise!
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on January 10, 2019, 08:06:30 PM
I'm sure Silva's opinion of him is based on seeing him in training, games/footage and actually speaking to the lad, rather than going by what is quoted in media articles.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 10, 2019, 08:09:53 PM
We should give him a chance pre-season and maybe til chrimbo to prove himself. Then ship out if need be. If we donít make a tidy 100% plus profit then the club is run by mugs as heís a decent player.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Heath on January 10, 2019, 08:11:06 PM

It appears to be a decent enough, and honest, interview. I would like to see Vlasic get a chance to prove himself under Marco Silva, but I don't see it happening. Mind you, the way football is these days, Marco Silva will probably be out of the Club before Vlasic.


Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: brap2 on January 10, 2019, 08:22:53 PM
Mentioned in the below article, small sample size however (CL group stage)

https://statsbomb.com/2019/01/loan-watch-how-are-premier-league-prospects-across-europe-faring/
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2019, 08:41:38 PM
Mentioned in the below article, small sample size however (CL group stage)

https://statsbomb.com/2019/01/loan-watch-how-are-premier-league-prospects-across-europe-faring/

Just like Iíd hoped:

ĎEverton have a player with a very interesting skillset who is capable of taking on a more central role than the right wing position he was generally assigned last season.í
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: blue1948 on January 10, 2019, 09:10:50 PM
He's not good enough
He is not good enough but other 21 year olds are ? Come on give your arse a chance .
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2019, 09:12:28 PM
He is not good enough but other 21 year olds are ? Come on give your arse a chance .


Let's keep my arse out of this
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: blue1948 on January 10, 2019, 09:19:40 PM
Let's keep my arse out of this
Well you keep talking out of it .
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Mouse on January 10, 2019, 09:34:27 PM
Nothing wrong in that interview at all other than he seems resigned to being sold because we are looking to buy from big clubs. I like him and think he performed well whenever I saw him. He worked hard and always looked to produce something and wasn't afraid to have a go himself. #

From all reports he's performed well on loan and stood out in a number of CL games. The Russian league may not be the best in the world but surely performing well over there and in CL matches is at least on a par with playing well for Forest?

I haven't seen enough to think he's the answer to our problems but equally haven't seen anything to simply write him off as not good enough. I hope we have the luxury of being able to give him a pre-season and a chance next season.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 10, 2019, 09:43:15 PM
His composure always impressed me. Wouldnít mind him back but he was slung out fairly swiftly.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2019, 09:52:16 PM
Well you keep talking out of it .

Well done.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: TSGun on January 10, 2019, 10:11:37 PM
He seems to just be expressing the same fears and insecurities all young players would feel when there's a lot of investment at the club they play for.

A little bit of love and he'll be fine. With a nickname like 'pickles', if that's what was correctly implied, he deserves no less.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 10, 2019, 11:20:41 PM
I liked him. Be a shame if he gets binned off
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: gizzblue on January 10, 2019, 11:28:49 PM
Deffo didn't like the rotund fella did he .....think he deserves a crack of the whip ..I mean he's not shown to be Sandro shite had he ....and Marco could be the guy to change his mind about us ,if Lookman is anything to go by .
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Bluedylan on January 10, 2019, 11:30:27 PM
Good on him. Like a player with opinions and a brain in his head.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Lxxx on January 11, 2019, 12:18:57 AM
Reading this thread clearly absence really does make the heart grow fonder.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: eugene on January 11, 2019, 12:48:21 AM
Too be honest folks I donít think anybody on here has seen enough of him in a blue shirt to form a proper opinion, that coupled with the way our previous manager set us up and our opinions are even less conclusive.
However he is getting very good CL reviews and that is good enough for me.
Imagine letting him go only for him to return with a competitor and haunt us!
Nah the small amount I saw him play I did actually like....... let him finish his loan and bring him back for another crack, heís got spunk mixed with a humbleness rarely seen
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Mouse on January 11, 2019, 12:54:21 AM
Reading this thread clearly absence really does make the heart grow fonder.
Nah, just think most people haven't seen enough of him to pass judgement. Couple that with the CL performances it seems counter-intuitive to write him off.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: eugene on January 11, 2019, 12:56:42 AM
Nah, just think most people haven't seen enough of him to pass judgement. Couple that with the CL performances it seems counter-intuitive to write him off.
Sure thatís what I just said mouse.But I agree
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Mouse on January 11, 2019, 01:12:29 AM
Sure thatís what I just said mouse.But I agree
Ah, I should read before I post  ;)
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Brownie on January 12, 2019, 07:49:46 PM
Silva saying heís being watched every game and that he does figure in his future plans
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Major Clanger on January 12, 2019, 09:37:42 PM
I think the only thing he's wrong in is about him not being rated because of where he came from.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on January 13, 2019, 06:55:47 AM
I think he offers more than Walcott
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: sam of the south on January 13, 2019, 05:23:01 PM
I think he offers more than Walcott

I think his time at Spartak (and before at Split) have shown that he is primarily an attacking midfielder with some versatility, and isnít a winger/forward like he was sparingly used in his time here
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: GLewis on January 13, 2019, 05:34:54 PM
I think his time at Spartak (and before at Split) have shown that he is primarily an attacking midfielder with some versatility, and isnít a winger/forward like he was sparingly used in his time here

Thought his time here showed that as well!
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Silas on January 13, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
He's not quick or tricky enough to be a winger. He's all about strength and good movement. He's much better suited to the centre. Whether we need him is another question but he's a decent player.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: sam of the south on January 13, 2019, 05:49:06 PM
Thought his time here showed that as well!

Yeah, conclusively 😁 It was bemusing to me that he was used that way.

Although, the only credit I will give Koeman was when he remarked what a good 10 Vlasic could be, but then that just added fuel to the Ďtoo many 10ísí fire that was already raging against him
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 13, 2019, 05:52:50 PM
His one-on-one finishing is arguably top 3 at the club imo. Lots to be said about that amount of composure at such a young age.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: brap2 on January 14, 2019, 02:31:32 AM
Off topic but I remember Walsh saying Lookman was close to Lukaku in terms of
Finishing ability.

I know, Walsh like, but encouraging that, and heís definitely showed end product in his career so far.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: TheRam on January 14, 2019, 04:10:59 AM
Off topic but I remember Walsh saying Lookman was close to Lukaku in terms of
Finishing ability.

I know, Walsh like, but encouraging that, and heís definitely showed end product in his career so far.

Big Steve Walsh knows a player when he sees one to be fair.

Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 14, 2019, 03:16:37 PM
I think the only thing he's wrong in is about him not being rated because of where he came from.

Not being one to want to over-generalise,

But Croatia as a whole seems to have a bit of a persecution complex.
Granted, there's probably very sound reasons over it for large portions of multiple populations of the Balkans

But adding to Vlasic "the don't think i'm good because i'm from Croatia" you have the national teams pearl-clutching at the World Cup because of the excitement building in England and the 3-lions song being belted out everywhere.

I find it all very odd.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Gary1878 on January 14, 2019, 03:28:18 PM
We definitely have some decisions to make this summer, with Dowell and Vlasic both looking to play regular football. As they are both central attacking midfielders, it seems like they might actually be competing against each other for one place in the squad, so could be very interesting in terms of their performances between now and the end of the season.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Waltzer on January 14, 2019, 04:00:17 PM
We definitely have some decisions to make this summer, with Dowell and Vlasic both looking to play regular football. As they are both central attacking midfielders, it seems like they might actually be competing against each other for one place in the squad, so could be very interesting in terms of their performances between now and the end of the season.

I dont think Vlasic and Dowell are really comparable in terms of quality. If they said one has to go and one can stay id be amazed if anyone chose Dowell, could be wrong though?
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Mouse on January 14, 2019, 06:29:43 PM
I dont think Vlasic and Dowell are really comparable in terms of quality. If they said one has to go and one can stay id be amazed if anyone chose Dowell, could be wrong though?
This, as much as it would be brilliant to see Dowell bossing games in the Prem, I've seen nothing from him in a first team shirt that makes me think it possible.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Gary1878 on January 14, 2019, 10:58:45 PM
I dont think Vlasic and Dowell are really comparable in terms of quality. If they said one has to go and one can stay id be amazed if anyone chose Dowell, could be wrong though?

Vlasic has been playing at a higher level, has more experience, and has seemingly performed well at CSKA. Dowell has done OK at Nottingham Forest as well, albeit not set the world alight. I would like to see him start really influencing matches at Champ level on a consistent basis before he could be considered for the match day squad with us.

Same age, same height, and you would expect one of them to kick on now, with Vlasic being the favourite.

By the way, we sometimes forget that Tom Davies is a year younger than the two above. I think fans are a little quick to give the boy stick, when it is a real achievement for him to have made 68 appearances already at such a young age. I think the lad will be a superb player for us, given the time and space to develop.

Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2019, 11:05:50 PM
Vlasic has been playing at a higher level, has more experience, and has seemingly performed well at CSKA. Dowell has done OK at Nottingham Forest as well, albeit not set the world alight. I would like to see him start really influencing matches at Champ level on a consistent basis before he could be considered for the match day squad with us.

Same age, same height, and you would expect one of them to kick on now, with Vlasic being the favourite.

By the way, we sometimes forget that Tom Davies is a year younger than the two above. I think fans are a little quick to give the boy stick, when it is a real achievement for him to have made 68 appearances already at such a young age. I think the lad will be a superb player for us, given the time and space to develop.



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Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Toddacelli on February 01, 2019, 11:37:27 PM
A central midfield squad of Vlasic, Gomes, Davies and Gana is really quite strong in my opinion and gives good options.

I have a hunch that Vlasic and Gomes would be very much on each others wavelength and could unlock defences together with someone like Gana or Davies behind them. 
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 01, 2019, 11:44:32 PM
Whatís he been playing like on his loan?


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Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: mikey_blue on February 02, 2019, 07:03:53 PM
10 goals 5 assists in all comps so far. Canít see Iíve watched anything apart from the Real Madrid game.
Title: Re: Vlasic Interview
Post by: GLewis on February 02, 2019, 07:11:48 PM
Donít need to rush with Vlasic, unless heís considered a bad influence.

If we donít want him next season then hopefully weíll loan to Germany or Italy.