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Title: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2019, 07:00:13 PM
The independent running with Lookman going to Southampton, Bournemouth or RB.

We wanted 28mil last summer, but will lower the asking price to get rid.

From a fella called Jack Pitt-Brooke so unsure how legit it is?
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Bluedylan on May 17, 2019, 07:03:48 PM
The independent running with Lookman going to Southampton, Bournemouth or RB.

We wanted 28mil last summer, but will lower the asking price to get rid.

From a fella called Jack Pitt-Brooke so unsure how legit it is?

He's a pretty responsible, well sourced journo for the Independent. Probably some truth to it.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on May 17, 2019, 07:13:32 PM
The independent running with Lookman going to Southampton, Bournemouth or RB.

We wanted 28mil last summer, but will lower the asking price to get rid.

From a fella called Jack Pitt-Brooke so unsure how legit it is?

Booooo I HATE this
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on May 17, 2019, 07:46:05 PM
Booooo I HATE this
Iím not sure that he will ever reach the potential that we thought he would a year ago ?
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Ross on May 17, 2019, 07:52:49 PM
Could see Leicester joining in on this.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on May 17, 2019, 08:01:52 PM
Southampton would make sense, he worked with Hasenhuetl at RB and he rates him.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 17, 2019, 08:27:58 PM
Southampton would make sense, he worked with Hasenhuetl at RB and he rates him.
Was just gonna say this
Be a shame to see him go but he couldnt oust Walcott who has been awful so that to me says enough
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2019, 08:33:50 PM
Pretty obvious all season that he doesn't want to be here, attitude problems as well. Cash in, 20+ million for him is a healthy profit
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Waltzer on May 17, 2019, 08:35:17 PM
Im fed up with Lookman if im honest, he could go on to be a great success but I couldn't really care. On the face of it he looks like he has zero interest or commitment, hes also had enough opportunities to display his talent, but he doesnt. Maybe a move would be best for everyone.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: gizzblue on May 17, 2019, 08:37:46 PM
All the while Walcott was having a fucking mare this season Lookman couldn't convince Marco to give him a go maybe attitude (always seems distant from the squad in the 'unseen' videos)...think his future here is bleak at best ....
Sell to the highest bidder .
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 17, 2019, 09:07:06 PM
Arsed


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Hawkandro on May 17, 2019, 09:30:37 PM
Will undoubtedly rip it up at Southampton and end up replacing Mane at the shite in 12 months time.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: blueToffee on May 17, 2019, 09:44:38 PM
It's a shame, and you feel someone else could benefit from this. However, you'd have to assume if it happens that either his attitude is not right or he just can't see eye to eye with those in charge, in which case what else can you do. Don't think he really impressed enough when he got his starts mind you, did like him as a sub, but he's not happy in that role.

Would be another player we'd have to replace though even if he didn't get much playing time.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: BlueForYou on May 17, 2019, 09:46:22 PM
Sell
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheTone on May 17, 2019, 09:47:11 PM
swerve selling him cheap, the grumpy little shit will probably tear it up wherever he goes, 28m is sound
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: D15TIN on May 17, 2019, 09:56:48 PM
Bournemouth love a fast winger don't they haha

Id be wanting close to 30 million personally, if Dom Solankes worth 19million.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 17, 2019, 10:18:01 PM
It's a shame but how many chances can you give. Perhaps it's an attitude thing?? Let's hope he doesn't rip it up and prove us wrong..... If he's gonna go that is.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 17, 2019, 10:58:09 PM
Still 30m, and I'd like a buyback clause
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Shogun on May 17, 2019, 11:02:27 PM
Never going to work out here.

Sell.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Dr. Sponge on May 17, 2019, 11:03:25 PM
He has talent so if we sell him to another PL club and he ends up sorting his attitude out, we donít want him taking points off us.

Ship him off to RB.


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2019, 11:04:47 PM
Just sell him for anything above 20mil and accept itís just not going to work out.

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on May 18, 2019, 12:06:51 AM
He has talent so if we sell him to another PL club and he ends up sorting his attitude out, we donít want him taking points off us.

Ship him off to RB.


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There are probably over 400 other players in the Premier League that could take points off us, one more wonít make any difference :smug:
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 18, 2019, 03:31:41 AM
20mill and a hefty % of sell on fee, so if he does come good we'll get a bit more cash
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on May 18, 2019, 03:47:21 AM
Do they want to take Walcott back with him as part of any deal.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Silas on May 18, 2019, 04:18:40 AM
I'm not even convinced he's very good. Get rid
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 18, 2019, 04:22:15 AM
Bored of him and his 8 minutes of weekly game time.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: blueToffee on May 18, 2019, 04:24:40 AM
There were some link a while back to Sarr from Rennes, although most recent links seem to suggest Arsenal and Leicester are the ones chasing him. Rennes had some decent players when we played them last summer, he'd be a good young option if we are selling Lookman.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/03/21/reports-again-hint-at-ismaila-sarr-being-one-of-evertons-top-sum/page/1/
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Brownie on May 18, 2019, 05:10:51 AM
I donít think Iíve ever been less bothered about a player being linked away
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 18, 2019, 05:23:45 AM
Fuck him off.

Done absolutely shag all and can't even get a place ahead of a shite Theo Walcott.

Get as much as possible for him and get rid.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: schleffera on May 18, 2019, 06:12:20 AM
Not to Southampton though, need them to take Theo
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: markB on May 18, 2019, 06:38:21 AM
if this kid had Jonjoe Kennys  heart and desire we would have one hell of a player on our hands , but he has not take what we can and move on
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Toddacelli on May 18, 2019, 12:17:44 PM
Disappointed to let go. But I'm calling it. Time of death - end of 2018/19 season.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: BlueForYou on May 20, 2019, 01:14:07 AM
Offer him to Gerrard and do a swap with Morelos at Rangers

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Waltzer on May 20, 2019, 01:52:01 AM
Offer him to Gerrard and do a swap with Morelos at Rangers
Is this a joke? His record isn't that great in Scotland and he's had 4 red this season, I couldn't think of a worst player we could sign

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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: stirlingblue on May 20, 2019, 02:19:27 AM
Still 30m, and I'd like a buyback clause

Buyback clause would be pointless as he wouldnít want to sign another contract here.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: velimski on May 20, 2019, 02:48:37 AM
I actually rate him.

Not sure where he gets the reputation for having a bad attitude from either, unless I've missed something?
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Shogun on May 20, 2019, 02:58:09 AM
I actually rate him.

Not sure where he gets the reputation for having a bad attitude from either, unless I've missed something?

Definitely not lazy when heís on the pitch.

Reading between the lines of Silvaís press conferences throughout the season suggests thereís been an issue with his application though.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: velimski on May 20, 2019, 03:08:50 AM
Definitely not lazy when he’s on the pitch.

Reading between the lines of Silva’s press conferences throughout the season suggests there’s been an issue with his application though.

Fair enough, I don't really listen/read the press conferences.

I think the talent is definitely there. I can see enough from his cameo appearances to suggest he's got something special in him.

Think he'd blossom with a proper run in the side starting games. Whether that's with us or not i think he's got in him.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on May 20, 2019, 03:34:04 PM
He also shows very little intelligence when he's on the pitch, he wanders all over the place and leaves the side unbalanced. I get he wants to make an impression in the few chances he has but he tends to follow the play instead of maintaining the shape of the side and watching it develop. Probably due to having little game time during the past few years when he should have been learning his trade.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on May 20, 2019, 04:46:26 PM
He causes so many problems with his 1v1 ability and ability to make good passes into the area. Plus he's got a v good finish on him. Will have egg on our face in a few years if we let him go I think.

I understand there must be something happening behind the scenes as to why it isn't working, but I think it would be better for us overall if Marco could make it work with Lookman if at all possible.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: blue1948 on May 20, 2019, 04:54:48 PM
He causes so many problems with his 1v1 ability and ability to make good passes into the area. Plus he's got a v good finish on him. Will have egg on our face in a few years if we let him go I think.

I understand there must be something happening behind the scenes as to why it isn't working, but I think it would be better for us overall if Marco could make it work with Lookman if at all possible.

I think he has tried to sort it with Mola but it has got no better so we can only assume it is his application not ability.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: ally2 on May 20, 2019, 05:04:13 PM
I still rate him. Definite raw ability. Far too much read into his 'attitude' from very little evidence. I'm happy too accept whichever judgement is come to from those who know him best.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Ross on May 20, 2019, 05:07:44 PM
Every time Iíve seen Silva questioned about Lookman heís said heís training well or words to that effect so I canít understand where this ďattitudeĒ problem is coming from?

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on May 20, 2019, 05:25:14 PM
What's that, a black players attitude and intelligence being questioned on The Internet?
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: gizzblue on May 20, 2019, 05:57:01 PM
If he stays he needs to try and emulate Bernard ...the perfect player model for him to aspire towards ...if he did he would be pure class...cos he knows where the net is too ....but again his failure to userp Wallcot isn't good imho.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Alanvideo on May 20, 2019, 05:59:01 PM
I think it all went tits-up when someone on here started calling him The Tooth   ::)
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on May 20, 2019, 06:05:25 PM
Pretty sure Silva has questioned his attitude on more than one occasion this season.

Plus, it seems clear that he's had a sulk on since he didn't get his move in the summer.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on May 20, 2019, 06:09:24 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ademola-lookmans-everton-continued-absence-15996222

Read into those comments what you will.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 20, 2019, 06:24:39 PM
He only has 2 years left on his contract and thereís zero chance heíd sign a new one - so itís time to sell while his market value is still high.

Weird that people are so obsessed with potential and not productivity.

Also weird that people despise a committed player like Davies yet back Lookman, who has no interest in playing for this club.


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on May 20, 2019, 06:26:43 PM
What's that, a black players attitude and intelligence being questioned on The Internet?

Stop this
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on May 20, 2019, 06:28:16 PM
He's been given plenty of chances this season and not taken them. He wanted to leave last summer, that was obvious. No problem whatsoever with us letting him go now like, reinvest the 20 million elsewhere.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 20, 2019, 06:30:13 PM
I've not got a big problem with him going now but I still think it would be a shame too. Shame for us because of his potential but a shame for him too because the champions league move seems to have gone now and he's being linked with Southampton instead
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: gizzblue on May 20, 2019, 06:33:03 PM
Also weird that people despise a committed player like Davies yet back Lookman, who has no interest in playing for this club.


Yacht seen anything on the forums about Davies being despised myself like ....local players always get the rub.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: BlueForYou on May 20, 2019, 07:27:58 PM
No joke about Morelos, potentially top-class and wants to play in a higher league

No surprise that Rodgers wants him at Leicester and Borussia Dortmund have also declared an interest

Gerrard can't handle the Colombian hot-head - but Mina could handle him!

Let Lookman loose in Scotland and see if he's a class above



Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Trowel on May 20, 2019, 07:43:35 PM
Morelos is a fantastic striker but an utter knob and a liability to his teammates. Even yesterday he was booked when he gave lip to the Killie fans after equalising (before losing, heh).

I firmly believe we're too nice, but he's just morally repugnant.

Basically he's tailor made for West Ham.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on May 20, 2019, 07:54:18 PM
Morelos has an absurdly good record in Scotland, not sure where the idea he doesn't comes from, but it is Scotland like.

Lookman went to Germany and put up numbers that were *somewhere* in the region of Jadon Sancho. He'd fucking walk Scotland with his eyes closed.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: di_guyo on May 20, 2019, 08:16:39 PM
Was proper excited to see what would happen with him this season. Given what I've seen and what I've heard in comments by Silva, no arsed one bit if he moves on now. Don't think he'll ever break into and hold down a spot in the first 11. No regret in not cashing in last summer, as Silva had to see what's what and try and get the best out of him. However, now that he's had the chance and has seen that this kid isn't going to commit/cut it, time to get rid while we still can make good money on him. Take £20m and move on.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Gary1878 on May 20, 2019, 08:21:07 PM
It is purely down to consistency with Lookman. He has the ability to change games, like he did when he came on against Spurs. However, he just doesn't produce the quality game in game out. He needs to be more 7/10s every game, rather than 5/10 and then a 9/10 every so often.

I am a huge fan of his ability, but ultimately it is down to him to up his level in training and most importantly in matches. If Silva doesn't believe he can up it from here at Everton, then perhaps a sale would be best for both parties.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Waltzer on May 20, 2019, 09:11:15 PM
Morelos has an absurdly good record in Scotland, not sure where the idea he doesn't comes from, but it is Scotland like.

Lookman went to Germany and put up numbers that were *somewhere* in the region of Jadon Sancho. He'd fucking walk Scotland with his eyes closed.
It ain't that good, been there 2 seasons, 58 games and 31 goals, roughly a 1 in 2 ratio where the standard of defending will be light years away from the Premiership.

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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Shogun on May 21, 2019, 12:33:11 AM
Every time Iíve seen Silva questioned about Lookman heís said heís training well or words to that effect so I canít understand where this ďattitudeĒ problem is coming from?

This is literally the opposite of what he says in press conferences
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Ross on May 21, 2019, 12:37:03 AM
This is literally the opposite of what he says in press conferences

Not the ones Iíve seen or the quotes in the media.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: howard1334 on May 21, 2019, 08:09:01 AM
I for one will be very sad to seem him go.  He's more skillful than anyone in the squad, including Bernard.  I am always filled with anticipation when he is on the field. 

I get people's frustration with him, but at the same time think people are being far too harsh.  The dude was treated like shit by Sam Alardyce and then had a dream half season in the Bundesliga, where he played the best football of his career.  He understandably wanted to return to RB Leipzig, a club that is going places -- including the Champions League next season.  But not once did he say anything negative about Everton.  Instead he got on with things.  And his performances when he received playing time this season were generally solid, and definitely a cut above Walcott's.  And I don't recall, despite suggestions above, that his effort in any games was particularly poor, nor him being a defensive liability. 
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: sixymack on May 21, 2019, 08:17:15 AM
I for one will be very sad to seem him go.  He's more skillful than anyone in the squad, including Bernard.  I am always filled with anticipation when he is on the field. 

I get people's frustration with him, but at the same time think people are being far too harsh.  The dude was treated like shit by Sam Alardyce and then had a dream half season in the Bundesliga, where he played the best football of his career.  He understandably wanted to return to RB Leipzig, a club that is going places -- including the Champions League next season.  But not once did he say anything negative about Everton.  Instead he got on with things.  And his performances when he received playing time this season were generally solid, and definitely a cut above Walcott's.  And I don't recall, despite suggestions above, that his effort in any games was particularly poor, nor him being a defensive liability. 

Great post I agree 100%.  Give the lad an extended run out.  He should sulk sitting on a bench every week.  Show me one great player who was happy to be a sub.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: blueToffee on May 21, 2019, 10:03:34 AM
I for one will be very sad to seem him go.  He's more skillful than anyone in the squad, including Bernard.  I am always filled with anticipation when he is on the field. 

I get people's frustration with him, but at the same time think people are being far too harsh.  The dude was treated like shit by Sam Alardyce and then had a dream half season in the Bundesliga, where he played the best football of his career.  He understandably wanted to return to RB Leipzig, a club that is going places -- including the Champions League next season.  But not once did he say anything negative about Everton.  Instead he got on with things.  And his performances when he received playing time this season were generally solid, and definitely a cut above Walcott's.  And I don't recall, despite suggestions above, that his effort in any games was particularly poor, nor him being a defensive liability. 

I don't really have any issue with him, but the facts as we know them seem to be that Silva doesn't as yet trust him enough to play him all that often, he's got limited time left on his contract so it's probably looking more than likely that we will end up selling.

In terms of him "getting on with things" didn't he basically down tools last summer in looking to get that move back to the BL? He basically had no pre-season because of it. He has seemingly got on with things since, but evidently things don't seem entirely smooth behind the scenes given his appearances.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Confucius on May 21, 2019, 11:47:21 AM
The problem with Lookman is that Lukaku took him under his wing off the field, not on it.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: stirlingblue on May 21, 2019, 12:58:30 PM
No point having players here who donít want to be and arenít putting the effort in during training.

Much as it pains me to say it, get rid now rather than let his contract run down.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 21, 2019, 03:26:05 PM
Reckon he'll be another Deulofeu.
Go on to have a good solid career, but not exactly set the world alight.

Although, there's still time for both of them to kick on upwards.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 21, 2019, 03:28:13 PM
Why are some of our fans so obsessed with certain fringe players? People seem to put potential above  productivity.

Iíve not seen anything to suggest Lookman could even have the career of an average PL winger like Townsend or Lennon.

Itís like Besic all over again.

Oh, and Bundesliga is shit, hence his relative success over in Germany.


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on May 21, 2019, 03:31:54 PM
Why are some of our fans so obsessed with certain fringe players? People seem to put potential above  productivity.

Iíve not seen anything to suggest Lookman could even have the career of an average PL winger like Townsend or Lennon.

Itís like Besic all over again.

Oh, and Bundesliga is shit, hence his relative success over in Germany.


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Oh my Christ stop it please.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 21, 2019, 03:34:20 PM
Oh my Christ stop it please.
Whatís wrong with that. Right div, you lately.


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on May 21, 2019, 03:39:18 PM
Whatís wrong with that. Right div, you lately.


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You saying bundesliga is shit all the time.

Donít get why you keep saying this?

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 21, 2019, 07:27:53 PM
Bayern and Dortmund aside, there just isnít much money in that league. EPL reserve players like Reiss Nelson and Jadon Sancho have gone there and looked great. Also, see Lookmanís spell at RBL.

Spurs dicked Dortmund and the shite dicked Bayern in the CL.

Youíve got teams like Shalke (who finished 2nd recently) losing Meyer, Kolasinac and Goretzka on free transfers because they canít pay a competitive wage. Meyer was one of the better players in that league and heís on the bench on Palace.

Iím not criticising the business model of the clubs in the Bundesliga; I can see why they want to take fringe players from bloated PL teams and give them a platform, but thatís because of necessity, as much as anything else.


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 21, 2019, 08:08:59 PM
maybe not loads of money, but that just means they give young players more chances - and it's very competitive and enetertaining football.

I enjoy it far more than La Liga.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: howard1334 on May 22, 2019, 01:43:54 AM


Reckon he'll be another Deulofeu.
Go on to have a good solid career, but not exactly set the world alight.

Although, there's still time for both of them to kick on upwards.

Deulofeu basically did set the world alight in the second half of the season. 


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Toddacelli on May 22, 2019, 04:16:48 AM
I was really hoping for a turnaround with Lookman and Vlasic (I've given up on Besic now) as two talented youngsters with bags of potential who were possibly treated badly by the previous management regime.

I had hoped that part of Brands' remit was to bring these two back into the fold and getting them to believe they can produce for Everton. It doesn't seem to be happening though, and I expect one, if not both, to make us eat our words if the leave.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: howard1334 on May 22, 2019, 08:26:55 AM
Bayern and Dortmund aside, there just isnít much money in that league. EPL reserve players like Reiss Nelson and Jadon Sancho have gone there and looked great. Also, see Lookmanís spell at RBL.

Spurs dicked Dortmund and the shite dicked Bayern in the CL.

Youíve got teams like Shalke (who finished 2nd recently) losing Meyer, Kolasinac and Goretzka on free transfers because they canít pay a competitive wage. Meyer was one of the better players in that league and heís on the bench on Palace.

Iím not criticising the business model of the clubs in the Bundesliga; I can see why they want to take fringe players from bloated PL teams and give them a platform, but thatís because of necessity, as much as anything else.


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While the Bundesliga is no longer the dominant league, as it arguably was four or five years ago (along with La Liga), you are seriously overstating its decline.

Also, Jordan Sancho would undeniably be an exceptional talent no matter the club he played for.  You make it sound like the dude was in Cyrstal Palace's reserve squad.  But the reality is that he was an unproven 18 year old on Man City, arguably the most front-to-back talented squad of the past decade.  The fact he had to move elsewhere to get playing time is no mark on him.  (Similarly, Reiss was not an Arsenal reserve, but rather an 18-year old when this season began.)
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 03, 2019, 08:35:15 PM
https://twitter.com/EFC_Insider/status/1146407635744448512
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: blue1948 on July 03, 2019, 08:46:55 PM
https://twitter.com/EFC_Insider/status/1146407635744448512

I like Mola but he is not a happy chappy ,it is in everyones interest that he goes but I am sure he will be a player .Sad that he didn't take his chance but that is football .
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on July 03, 2019, 08:47:42 PM
Fucking PLAY HIM
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Waltzer on July 03, 2019, 08:53:18 PM
Be happy to see the back of him now
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 03, 2019, 09:06:01 PM
30 million minimum, that's seems to be the going rate at the moment
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: sam of the south on July 03, 2019, 09:13:21 PM
Wouldnít be comfortable selling him to a side that were only three points behind us last season
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 03, 2019, 09:13:35 PM
30 million minimum, that's seems to be the going rate at the moment

Wonít get anything more than 20
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Omar on July 03, 2019, 09:21:21 PM
Wouldnít be comfortable selling him to a side that were only three points behind us last season

Agreed, that one could really bite us in the arse.

On second thought, if they agree to take Sandro as well.......



edit: aah never mind. I see we've got someone to babysit Sandro for another year.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 03, 2019, 09:30:52 PM
Wonít get anything more than 20

Might get a bit more, Palace have got a few Bob to spend now haven't they. The market is mad nowadays
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: D15TIN on July 03, 2019, 09:46:02 PM
30 million minimum, that's seems to be the going rate at the moment
I said this is a few months back about 30mill, and got told by most on here we wont get it/ he's not worth it

Should be demanding 30 for him in a market like this, they obviously rate him highly, probably get 100mill for zaha and wan bissaka, 30minimum
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 03, 2019, 09:54:37 PM
If a few teams are in for him, i can see us getting £30m for him. Teams may well play the long game with us though, like weíre doing with our targets! Waiting for someone to flinch.

Teams will know that heís not happy here and hasnít been in Silvaís plans. Thatíll become even more apparent, if we bring in that elusive left-footed right winger. Teams will know weíre trying to get rid, which can drive down the price. Definitely worth a gamble for some team though.


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Free Agent on July 03, 2019, 09:57:06 PM
Would be an attractive prospect for one of the newly promoted sides surely.  Would have decent resale value if/when they get relegated again
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on July 03, 2019, 10:22:30 PM
Wonít get anything more than 20

If Palace get £60m+ for Zaha to go along with the £45m for Wan Bissaka I think they can expect a certain amount of inflation when they go shopping for replacements.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Cereal Killer on July 04, 2019, 12:36:28 AM
He'll probably be keen on Palace so he can get back to London
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: stirlingblue on July 04, 2019, 01:21:12 AM
Fucking PLAY HIM

Ahead of who?

Canít see him getting ahead of Richarlison or Bernard as theyíre both more talented as well as being more disciplined.

Iím know people love to hate Walcott but he offers a very specific threat in behind that gives something to the team tactically
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on July 04, 2019, 01:32:44 AM
Ahead of who?

Canít see him getting ahead of Richarlison or Bernard as theyíre both more talented as well as being more disciplined.

Iím know people love to hate Walcott but he offers a very specific threat in behind that gives something to the team tactically

Well Walcott got more than 2000 minutes last year, he can have them.

100% agree about Walcott and its no surprise that when he's on the pitch the likes of Gylfi and Tosun look better. But for me that's on Marco. You've got one of the most talented youngsters in the prem.. Teach him to make those runs if you need him to, or play him when you need to bring Bernard off and go like for like.

I'm sure there will be replies about his attitude etc and I suppose it just is what it is, but I can't help but feel disappointed such a talented player is going to slip through our fingers.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on July 04, 2019, 01:46:18 AM
If we can get c£30m for him due to his English premium and then replace him with someone of the quality of Ziyech/Malcolm then we've traded up in terms of deliverability. Whatever that means.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Silas on July 04, 2019, 01:59:42 AM
I'm not sure he's particularly talented
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Juanito on July 04, 2019, 02:03:27 AM
He'll probably be keen on Palace so he can get back to London

Also back to South London. I think he would be a real player for them.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on July 04, 2019, 02:13:44 AM
I'm not sure he's particularly talented

 ???
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on July 04, 2019, 02:30:55 AM
If we can get c£30m for him due to his English premium and then replace him with someone of the quality of Ziyech/Malcolm then we've traded up in terms of deliverability. Whatever that means.

If you reckon heís worth anywhere near £30 million then we really did pull Watfordís trousers down over Richarleson !
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2019, 02:33:24 AM
We are not getting 30mil for him.

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on July 04, 2019, 02:51:23 AM
If you reckon heís worth anywhere near £30 million then we really did pull Watfordís trousers down over Richarleson !

Itís not about what heís worth. Man U just paid nearly £50m for a lad with a season of first team football under his belt. Itís what you can hold out for and if Brands wants to play hardball I donít think itís that far from what we could actually get, regardless of his perceived worth.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Silas on July 04, 2019, 02:54:24 AM
???

He's one of many I have seen come and go who looks decent in spells but I'm not seeing anything new from him
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: American Evertonian on July 04, 2019, 02:58:01 AM
We are not getting 30mil for him.



I think £15-20m is most likely with sell on clause. Tough to ask for much more for a player we aren't even using frequently.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Jamokachi on July 04, 2019, 04:23:06 AM
https://twitter.com/EFC_Insider/status/1146407635744448512

Slightly fishy that this appears after @brap2 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) posts that he would expect this, earlier in the day.

2 scenarios; @brap2 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) is Everton Insider or the guy just trawls forums and picks out interesting snippets :)
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2019, 04:24:09 AM
Itís not about what heís worth. Man U just paid nearly £50m for a lad with a season of first team football under his belt. Itís what you can hold out for and if Brands wants to play hardball I donít think itís that far from what we could actually get, regardless of his perceived worth.

Couldnít get 25mil for him last summer, but yeah, weíre getting near 50mil for him this summer.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on July 04, 2019, 04:27:16 AM
Couldnít get 25mil for him last summer, but yeah, weíre getting near 50mil for him this summer.

Weíre not getting anywhere near £50m for him though. No-one is even close to suggesting that. I was referring to the £30m suggestion, which isnít too far away from where we should be aiming.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2019, 04:32:09 AM
Weíre not getting anywhere near £50m for him though. No-one is even close to suggesting that. I was referring to the £30m suggestion, which isnít too far away from where we should be aiming.

Took your quote in isolation there. My bad
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Cozzie on July 04, 2019, 04:52:21 AM
We are not getting 30mil for him.



Then we don't sell him.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: BlueForYou on July 04, 2019, 11:44:06 AM
We don't keep him, we sell him to the highest bidder
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on July 04, 2019, 01:48:04 PM
Then we don't sell him.

We bought him just over two years ago for £7.5 million, since then he has achieved/done/developed fuck all, and now some people think heís worth £30 million, how does that work ?
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: BlueForYou on July 04, 2019, 03:03:58 PM
Leipzig, last year

Never look a gift horse in the mouth
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on July 04, 2019, 03:10:22 PM
We bought him just over two years ago for £7.5 million, since then he has achieved/done/developed fuck all, and now some people think he’s worth £30 million, how does that work ?

Well last summer we turned down £24m after he impressed in the first sustained six months stretch of his career at the top level. We could quite rightly point to that as evidence of his potential and ideally he'd fulfil it with us but it isn't likely to be.

A move back to south London might be what he needs and if Palace have over £100m burning a hole in their pocket and a need to replace Zaha then they might think it's worth a gamble. Which it probably is.   
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on July 04, 2019, 03:16:02 PM
Well last summer we turned down £24m after he impressed in the first sustained six months stretch of his career at the top level. We could quite rightly point to that as evidence of his potential and ideally he'd fulfil it with us but it isn't likely to be.

A move back to south London might be what he needs and if Palace have over £100m burning a hole in their pocket and a need to replace Zaha then they might think it's worth a gamble. Which it probably is.

I guess thatís all plausible.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Cozzie on July 04, 2019, 03:20:28 PM
We bought him just over two years ago for £7.5 million, since then he has achieved/done/developed fuck all, and now some people think heís worth £30 million, how does that work ?

Completely irrelevant.

The shite got £15M and £20M for Ibe and Solanke respectively who each did fuck all also.

We dug our heels in with Lezpig who wouldn't meet our valuation of 35M.

He is young and english with bags of potential and promise so has a premium automatically.

We sell him for what WE think he is worth, get the best deal possible, don't roll over and have our belly tickled.

You can make all the arguments you want about him either being worth or not being worth £30M but that's what he is worth to us.

I'd rather he stayed and played anyway.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on July 04, 2019, 03:27:36 PM
Completely irrelevant.

The shite got £15M and £20M for Ibe and Solanke respectively who each did fuck all also.

We dug our heels in with Lezpig who wouldn't meet our valuation of 35M.

He is young and english with bags of potential and promise so has a premium automatically.

We sell him for what WE think he is worth, get the best deal possible, don't roll over and have our belly tickled.

You can make all the arguments you want about him either being worth or not being worth £30M but that's what he is worth to us.

I'd rather he stayed and played anyway.

ďYoung and English with bags of potential ď has that potential blossomed during the last two years ? You would not be having your belly tickled at £20 million.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2019, 03:55:09 PM
Completely irrelevant.

The shite got £15M and £20M for Ibe and Solanke respectively who each did fuck all also.

We dug our heels in with Lezpig who wouldn't meet our valuation of 35M.

He is young and english with bags of potential and promise so has a premium automatically.

We sell him for what WE think he is worth, get the best deal possible, don't roll over and have our belly tickled.

You can make all the arguments you want about him either being worth or not being worth £30M but that's what he is worth to us.

I'd rather he stayed and played anyway.

Heís not worth much to us when he canít get in the team ahead of Theo Walcott.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Shogun on July 04, 2019, 04:31:06 PM
£15-£20m for Lookman and a sell on clause is reasonable.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: gizzblue on July 04, 2019, 04:31:35 PM
Failed miserably to take any first team chance he's had .

No doubt the kid has potential but I don't think he has it in him to fight for a position in the squad .
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 04, 2019, 04:54:59 PM
£15-£20m for Lookman and a sell on clause is reasonable.

25 million with a buy back clause

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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on July 04, 2019, 06:33:58 PM
25 million with a buy back clause

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Whatís the point of a buy back clause ? He would never sign for us again.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: SANA_DR0 on July 04, 2019, 06:35:05 PM
lol at the over inflated value of Lookman, it would be a legit value if he had played for us this season regularly. He looks like the sort of player who needs to play frequently to get the best out of him (a confidence thing) That's why he did well at Leipzig, he played around 11 times and scoring 5 goals..

I don't see the logic in playing a young guy once; then dropping him for a few games.. that must be soul destroying.

give him 10 games or so in a row, let him flourish, then if we don't think he';s what we need, we can get the 35M odd, that the fans thing he is worth.

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 04, 2019, 06:40:53 PM
Whatís the point of a buy back clause ? He would never sign for us again.


I know, hence the fool gif
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: gizzblue on July 04, 2019, 08:12:41 PM
lol at the over inflated value of Lookman, it would be a legit value if he had played for us this season regularly. He looks like the sort of player who needs to play frequently to get the best out of him (a confidence thing) That's why he did well at Leipzig, he played around 11 times and scoring 5 goals..

I don't see the logic in playing a young guy once; then dropping him for a few games.. that must be soul destroying.

give him 10 games or so in a row, let him flourish, then if we don't think he';s what we need, we can get the 35M odd, that the fans thing he is worth.

Great in theory ...but couldn't userp Wallcot even though for the greater part of the season Wallcot was fucking dross....we couldn't exactly bench Rich or Bernard or even Gylfi for a swap in front three ....if he'd have shown in any game to be even close to any of the aforementioned. ..then I'm sure he would ve been given the games by Marco he sorely needed ....even before the manager questioning his mentality  (for want of a better word) on occasion.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Toddacelli on July 05, 2019, 03:12:24 AM
As much as I want to see more of Lookman - you have to think that Marco got his team selection correct by how well we finished the season.

Would love to loan him out for another year but I don't think there is the love there for him to call us 'Home'.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Waltzer on July 05, 2019, 04:07:42 AM
As much as I want to see more of Lookman - you have to think that Marco got his team selection correct by how well we finished the season.

Would love to loan him out for another year but I don't think there is the love there for him to call us 'Home'.
No point loaning him out, think he's got 2 years left on his deal and I can't wee him signing a new one. Unless we see him as starting this year, which I can't see, it's time to send him on his way and get a much as we can

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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Paddockoldie on July 05, 2019, 01:51:17 PM
He needs a mind blowing pre season where he shows his best attributes and attitude or this will be the season he goes. Time to step up or step off
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Toddacelli on July 05, 2019, 01:58:26 PM
No point loaning him out, think he's got 2 years left on his deal and I can't wee him signing a new one. Unless we see him as starting this year, which I can't see, it's time to send him on his way and get a much as we can

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That's exactly what I was saying.
Title: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2019, 07:02:59 PM
Lookman to RB for 20mil being discussed according to reports.

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: DannyR on July 08, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
Lookman to RB for 20mil being discussed according to reports.


I'm sure we paid 20 mil for him from Charlton?
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Jamokachi on July 08, 2019, 07:09:43 PM
I'm sure we paid 20 mil for him from Charlton?

11m I think.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2019, 07:09:53 PM
I'm sure we paid 20 mil for him from Charlton?

Think it was about 12mil?
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Jamokachi on July 08, 2019, 07:10:31 PM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38520520

It was 11m
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Fynci on July 08, 2019, 07:23:46 PM
Sell him. He will have limited opportunities here and his head seems to be elsewhere when he does play.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on July 08, 2019, 07:24:54 PM
I'm sure we paid 20 mil for him from Charlton?
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Was £12m
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on July 08, 2019, 07:28:54 PM
Blot on marcos copybook for me im afraid.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 08, 2019, 07:38:19 PM
Sell sell sell, it's obvious to everyone that he doesn't want to be here, frustrating as fuck, really talented player, had one chance to many.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Juanito on July 08, 2019, 07:44:10 PM
Blot on marcos copybook for me im afraid.

Yeah, I canít see how he would have done much worse that Walcott, who was given chance after chance and failed miserably.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Gary1878 on July 08, 2019, 07:54:45 PM
I am going against the grain here, but i want him to stay. You won't find many players with his talent knocking around at £20m.

You just feel that once he gets his confidence going, he could be a proper player, and I would hate to see us miss out because we haven't given him enough chances. Let's be patient, coach him properly, give him a good run of games this season, and try and let him develop.

Rather than putting him in the team when confidence is low, lets get him in and around the team when we are finding form and playing well. Marco needs to put an arm around him and start boosting his ego, Martinez-Barkley style.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 08, 2019, 07:57:06 PM
If you look on the bright side we could go and try to find a player that can offer a little bit more than an 8min cameo 15 times a season. 🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2019, 07:57:23 PM
Blot on marcos copybook for me im afraid.

The damage was already done before he got here.

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 08, 2019, 07:57:40 PM
20 and a sell on percentage and I think weíve done okay.
Real shame cos in small doses he looks like he has real quality but he has had very little consistency. A good performance off the bench is followed by being terrible starting. His contract is running down, he seems to want to move. Take a profit and find another young player whoís a clean slate with the club
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2019, 07:59:19 PM
He doesnít want to be here and he made that obvious last season with some very lacklustre performances, and poor performances in training (according to the manager)

Weíre never going to get the best out of him so sell while we can get a half decent price.

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Silas on July 08, 2019, 08:01:29 PM
There's a slight worry that silva doesn't seem to rate many of the young lads but I dont think lookman is a massive loss if he goes
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 08, 2019, 08:02:00 PM
The damage was already done before he got here.



Yep, Allardyce publicly slagging him off for choosing to go on loan abroad
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on July 08, 2019, 08:03:04 PM
Better coming 10th and playing kids than coming 8th and playing 30 year olds.

DCL the sole survivor of our 'golden generation' to quote merro, and most of our fans want him binned off an all.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on July 08, 2019, 08:19:16 PM
Left Kenya on crutches didn't he?
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Waltzer on July 08, 2019, 08:25:05 PM
Better coming 10th and playing kids than coming 8th and playing 30 year olds.

DCL the sole survivor of our 'golden generation' to quote merro, and most of our fans want him binned off an all.
Why is that better? I think they've all be given enough chances and I don't really see the age as a relevant marker, should be about ability. I don't have a problem playing a 15 year old or 60 year old if they do the job, it's about doing that job. When I've seen Lookman especially he flatters to deceive. The rest are all pretty much bang average players that's why they aren't playing much

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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 08, 2019, 08:33:39 PM
If we want an economically sustainable project, we have to utilize - and develop - younger players.

Brands especially seems focused on that.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on July 08, 2019, 08:39:40 PM
Why is that better? I think they've all be given enough chances and I don't really see the age as a relevant marker, should be about ability. I don't have a problem playing a 15 year old or 60 year old if they do the job, it's about doing that job. When I've seen Lookman especially he flatters to deceive. The rest are all pretty much bang average players that's why they aren't playing much

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Depends what do the job means. Win you a league? Play all the 30 year olds you want.

If you are building something you are better off investing and playing young players even if they are (a bit) worse than existing older players.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 08, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Of course, there is a balance.  It's fine to have a handful of key players that are older.  After all, we have a reachable goal of Europa qualification.

But there are ample older players in the squad already.  The next step involves acquiring and developing more young players.

I agree that we haven't really seen enough of Lookman, in my opinion.  Perhaps all the Allardyce crap has made this relationship untenable - but he is exactly the kind of young player we need to integrate into the attacking rotation.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Toffee1 on July 08, 2019, 11:05:54 PM
RB Leipzig offer £22.5million for Everton winger Ademola Lookman after seeing initial bid rejected

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7225027/RB-Leipzig-offer-22-5million-Everton-winger-Ademola-Lookman-seeing-initial-bid-rejected.html

Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Omar on July 08, 2019, 11:28:35 PM
RB Leipzig offer £22.5million for Everton winger Ademola Lookman after seeing initial bid rejected

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7225027/RB-Leipzig-offer-22-5million-Everton-winger-Ademola-Lookman-seeing-initial-bid-rejected.html




Add a sell-on component and we have a deal!
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: gizzblue on July 08, 2019, 11:29:39 PM
Of course, there is a balance.  It's fine to have a handful of key players that are older.  After all, we have a reachable goal of Europa qualification.

But there are ample older players in the squad already.  The next step involves acquiring and developing more young players.

I agree that we haven't really seen enough of Lookman, in my opinion.  Perhaps all the Allardyce crap has made this relationship untenable - but he is exactly the kind of young player we need to integrate into the attacking rotation.

Honestly think it was Leipzig that turned his head ....imho his mind was made up before his loan with them finished .
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 09, 2019, 12:10:39 AM
I think weíre possibly doing something weíve been envious of the neighbours doing here.

Sign a young talent. Canít break into the first team. Ultimately has done nothing in his short career apart from his potential being spoken about frequently. Sell for £20m+.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Waltzer on July 09, 2019, 01:00:14 AM
Honestly think it was Leipzig that turned his head ....imho his mind was made up before his loan with them finished .
And that's fine, it's his perogative, he's nowhere near good enough to be worried about if he doesn't want to be here

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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: gizzblue on July 09, 2019, 02:04:26 AM
And that's fine, it's his perogative, he's nowhere near good enough to be worried about if he doesn't want to be here

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Exactly this ....honestly don't think he has the same hunger for us as them.....so it's a simple ....see ya!....but brands wim get every penny he can too
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Toddacelli on July 09, 2019, 03:08:02 AM
He doesnít want to be here and he made that obvious last season with some very lacklustre performances, and poor performances in training (according to the manager)

Weíre never going to get the best out of him so sell while we can get a half decent price.




You're absolutely right. But I'm gutted about it.
Title: Lookman
Post by: bluenuck on July 09, 2019, 12:54:38 PM
22.5 mil. Pound offer in from RB Leipzig as per sky.

Thatís gotta be close to him leaving.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Juanito on July 09, 2019, 02:49:08 PM
Good luck to him. Just a shame he was here for the Allardyce debacle.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Morta75 on July 09, 2019, 02:49:25 PM
Should get over 30 millions for him in todays market if sold to a English club.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 09, 2019, 03:14:59 PM
Iíd be happy with £22m and a sell-on clause. Haha no chance Lookman would let us have a buy-back in there.


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 09, 2019, 03:41:32 PM
Have to laugh that everyoneís still blaming allardyce

When lookman has played he hasnít done enough. Not for managers before allardyce. Not for managers after him. Odd that people seem to think the responsibility lies with just him
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on July 09, 2019, 03:46:15 PM
Have to laugh that everyone’s still blaming allardyce

When lookman has played he hasn’t done enough. Not for managers before allardyce. Not for managers after him. Odd that people seem to think the responsibility lies with just him

Correct. Allardyce left a year ago and since then he's done nothing. Maybe he's just not as good as we hoped he'd be so we double our money on him and move onto someone who might be able to contribute more.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: TheRam on July 09, 2019, 03:48:45 PM
Have to laugh that everyoneís still blaming allardyce

When lookman has played he hasnít done enough. Not for managers before allardyce. Not for managers after him. Odd that people seem to think the responsibility lies with just him

Bit sensitive anytime his name is even mentioned you mate.

Donít think anybody blamed him.

However, I do recall him saying he should go to derby instead of testing himself abroad at RB, to which you agreed. So, he does have to take some of the blame for this one.

He had a great chance to play him every week, but instead chose to loan him out and use bolasie instead.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 09, 2019, 03:56:34 PM
Have to laugh that everyoneís still blaming allardyce

When lookman has played he hasnít done enough. Not for managers before allardyce. Not for managers after him. Odd that people seem to think the responsibility lies with just him

None of the other managers publicly slagged him off because he went abroad

Not saying Allardyce is solely to blame, but he did more damage than the rest.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 09, 2019, 03:59:07 PM
I think the club had agreed a deal with Derby, but then Lookmanís agent went behind both clubís backs and lined-up the RBL move.


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 09, 2019, 04:00:33 PM
None of the other managers publicly slagged him off because he went abroad

Not saying Allardyce is solely to blame, but he did more damage than the rest.
TBF the sulky little cunt is about the last player youíd want in a relegation fight.


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lazarou on July 09, 2019, 04:05:38 PM
TBF the sulky little cunt is about the last player youíd want in a relegation fight.


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I wouldn't go quite that far but he does appear to be a miserable git. As a team we would not miss him anytime soon.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on July 09, 2019, 04:06:59 PM
None of the other managers publicly slagged him off because he went abroad

Not saying Allardyce is solely to blame, but he did more damage than the rest.

Lookman has everyone's sympathy for what happened under that shitshow of a manager but Silva couldn't have been more praising of the lad when he took over. We rejected a big bid from Leipzig which showed we believed in him and he should have been looking at players like Richarlison, Gomes and Bernard and thinking he'd like to be a part of this but it hasn't happened for him, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Cozzie on July 09, 2019, 04:10:19 PM
Even though I want him to stay I would be happy with Lookman out and Malcom in like.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 09, 2019, 04:22:10 PM
Lookman has everyone's sympathy for what happened under that shitshow of a manager but Silva couldn't have been more praising of the lad when he took over. We rejected a big bid from Leipzig which showed we believed in him and he should have been looking at players like Richarlison, Gomes and Bernard and thinking he'd like to be a part of this but it hasn't happened for him, for whatever reason.

Silva said last summer that Lookman was in his plans, that's why we rejected the bids from RB, then quite a few times last season Silva said that he has to improve in training. Probably could of been dealt with better but to me Lookman was given a few chances last season to show what he's made of and didn't take any of them, it was pretty obvious that he didn't want to be here.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 09, 2019, 04:37:37 PM
Bit sensitive anytime his name is even mentioned you mate.

Donít think anybody blamed him.

However, I do recall him saying he should go to derby instead of testing himself abroad at RB, to which you agreed. So, he does have to take some of the blame for this one.

He had a great chance to play him every week, but instead chose to loan him out and use bolasie instead.

Heís not my mate and Iím not remotely sensitive about it. Itís plain daft though. A manager whoís no longer at the club (hasnít been for a year now) disagrees with his choice of loan move (the player still got his way)
He went there and proved himself. Youíd hope heíd come back and want to prove himself here too rather than waste a year.
The flip side of this is had he gone to derby maybe his head wouldnít have been turned. Not massively sensible loaning players to better teams. You risk having their heads turned
Personally Iíve no problem with how heís been treated or how heís behaved. The opportunities he has had he hasnít taken. Maybe heís not good enough. Maybe it just hasnít worked out through no fault of anyoneís
Iíd love him to stay and find some form  but itís probably best for everyone he gets a move now.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Escla on July 09, 2019, 05:05:31 PM
I wouldn't go quite that far but he does appear to be a miserable git. As a team we would not miss him anytime soon.

I wonder if he shouldnít have been given some support from a sports psychologist ? May have been underlying emotional issues that would account for his apparent sulky demeanour ?
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lazarou on July 09, 2019, 05:10:12 PM
I wonder if he shouldnít have been given some support from a sports psychologist ? May have been underlying emotional issues that would account for his apparent sulky demeanour ?

I would have thought that a club like ours with a good reputation on mental health would have been on it if that was the case.

Perhaps it's just how he comes across.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Waltzer on July 09, 2019, 05:11:03 PM
Have to laugh that everyone's still blaming allardyce

When lookman has played he hasn't done enough. Not for managers before allardyce. Not for managers after him. Odd that people seem to think the responsibility lies with just him
It's not just Allardyce fault, think some will blame Walsh too, the way he signed him wasn't right, or something like that!!?

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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Nicco on July 09, 2019, 11:41:23 PM
Even though I want him to stay I would be happy with Lookman out and Malcom in like.
Especially with the difference being reported around £12m.

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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: SANA_DR0 on July 10, 2019, 06:40:45 AM
:(


one of my favourite Everton photos from the last few seasons.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz7_-rnX0AAsQJg.jpg:large)



Wish Lookman doesn't go on a perm deal... I fear it will be similar to how Vlasic will turn out (awesome Vlasic article btw)


Kenny wont be here next season... i still would love this  to be the backbone of the team in years to come.


Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 11, 2019, 10:29:08 PM
👀
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Gash on July 11, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9IgG50Fb7Mi0prBC/giphy.gif)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7237071/RB-Leipzig-advanced-talks-Everton-permanent-deal-Ademola-Lookman.html
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Waltzer on July 11, 2019, 10:43:56 PM
Think it's the right move all round, hope he kicks on

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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 11, 2019, 11:40:51 PM
Sky Sources understand RB and Everton are in talks over the permanent transfer of Lookman
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: American Evertonian on July 11, 2019, 11:41:56 PM
Think it's the right move all round, hope he kicks on

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Only wish the best for him. Think he hasn't had a fair shot here in terms of minutes.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Lxxx on July 11, 2019, 11:42:57 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if Palace come in with a late bid. Zaha wants out but it depends if wants to go back to South London or try Germany at a higher level again.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 12, 2019, 12:02:04 AM
Cheeky bastard's

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1149362533872164865
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Heisenberg on July 12, 2019, 12:06:23 AM
Wouldnít sell for anything less than 25 mil. If he goes we need options as we speak Iíll be left with Theo Walcott, bollasie and mirralas as our back ups. Wouod of been fine in 2013 but definitely not 19/20
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 12, 2019, 12:22:00 AM
How long had he got on his contract? 2 years?


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Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Cozzie on July 12, 2019, 12:38:44 AM
We will hold out for around 25M I reckon. Would represent around 13M profit.

I want him to stay and progress as I have always said but it's clear for whatever reason it's not gonna happen.

I'd like to think we have got someone decent lined up to come in almost instantly.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Trowel on July 12, 2019, 12:56:32 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonFutbol/status/1149376376241348611
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Cozzie on July 12, 2019, 01:16:56 AM
Looks like that guy just makes poo poo up.

However it probably is close to being finalized.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 12, 2019, 01:36:09 AM
Erm...

https://twitter.com/SSN401/status/1149382817480138752
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: GLewis on July 12, 2019, 01:36:53 AM
Erm...

https://twitter.com/SSN401/status/1149382817480138752

Jarg
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Brownie on July 12, 2019, 01:37:01 AM
Erm...

https://twitter.com/SSN401/status/1149382817480138752

Not a fucking chance
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 12, 2019, 01:37:57 AM
Erm...

https://twitter.com/SSN401/status/1149382817480138752
Blag account
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: brap2 on July 12, 2019, 01:40:26 AM
Macca mate come on haha
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 12, 2019, 01:40:57 AM
Yeah that account has 4000 followers. Not the real 1. I did get a little worried though
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Cozzie on July 12, 2019, 01:41:10 AM
Have a day off Macca lad.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Macca77 on July 12, 2019, 01:42:39 AM
I've put the paper bag down and am now breathing easy, thanks for your help
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: 74Blue on July 12, 2019, 01:53:54 AM
Erm...

https://twitter.com/SSN401/status/1149382817480138752
Lionel Richie's lovechild can fuck right off!
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Shogun on July 12, 2019, 01:57:52 AM
Love that account by the way
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Paddockoldie on July 12, 2019, 02:34:31 AM
I'd rather buy Sue Townsend
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: Toddacelli on July 12, 2019, 01:55:09 PM
Deleted. Poor taste. Apologies.
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: D15TIN on July 12, 2019, 03:33:32 PM
Lookman 15 mill bid from leipzig rejected, Paul Joyce

Sorry if already posted
Title: Re: Lookman
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 12, 2019, 06:53:05 PM
Deleted. Poor taste. Apologies.

Ferry related pun by-chance?