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Title: South American Connection
Post by: mikey_blue on September 06, 2020, 11:05:05 PM
With our team having a few south Americans in the side, our DoF having a proclivity to look into the South American market and another Everton in Chile. Should we be looking at setting up some roots out there? pre seasons, feeder clubs, academy, charity etc?
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: arteta4spain on September 06, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Oi you nicked my phrase from the James thread!


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Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 06, 2020, 11:12:48 PM
With our team having a few south Americans in the side, our DoF having a proclivity to look into the South American market and another Everton in Chile. Should we be looking at setting up some roots out there? pre seasons, feeder clubs, academy, charity etc?

I believe we have permanent scouts there, but an even more official capacity would seem to make a lot of sense, wouldn't it?

A constant pipeline of talent from S.America would not in the least bit be a bad thing. Except for your stupid work permit laws.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: sam of the south on September 06, 2020, 11:14:54 PM
I’ll lay down some roots and a pipeline over there, sure..
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Robioto on September 06, 2020, 11:17:08 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1302342000709111808
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: GLewis on September 06, 2020, 11:19:36 PM
https://twitter.com/evertonsadp?s=21
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 06, 2020, 11:26:44 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1302342000709111808

This must make Mina feel fairly insignificant lol
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Omar on September 06, 2020, 11:30:12 PM
I’ll lay down some roots and a pipeline over there, sure..

I'd like to lay down some pipe in south america, have you seen their birds?
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: sam of the south on September 06, 2020, 11:35:07 PM
I'd like to lay down some pipe in south america, have you seen their birds?

Yes, that’s what I meant, Omar... hang on, aren’t you meant to be a gay gangsta? 🧐
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: blargins on September 06, 2020, 11:35:55 PM
I'd like to lay down some pipe in south america, have you seen their birds?
Yeah but have you been watching 90 Day Fiancé? They’re all batshit crazy.

But then, so are the Americans on it too.


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Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Thornton_19 on September 06, 2020, 11:39:33 PM
Lets be honest we should just buy Everton Chile and try and dominate the South American market from there.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Omar on September 06, 2020, 11:40:29 PM
Yes, that’s what I meant, Omar... hang on, aren’t you meant to be a gay gangsta? 🧐

I just play one on TV, I'm actually a white American with the curse of the Irish.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Trowel on September 06, 2020, 11:54:45 PM
This thread highlights the commercial nous which we need to work on, with EFC fan services confirming there are currently no plans to sell Everton kits at retail in South America. Imagine the business we could do with a local partner as an outlet for James, Richarlison, and Allan shirts. Might even sell a couple of Bernard's.
https://twitter.com/EvertonFC_BRA/status/1300434783269457923
https://twitter.com/efc_fanservices/status/1301790934686928896
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: brap2 on September 06, 2020, 11:55:12 PM
My mates Mrs is Colombian.

Her uncle came over the other month and wasn't arsed about seeing anfield, he wanted to see Goodison and get a shirt with Yerry on the back
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Bluedylan on September 06, 2020, 11:59:12 PM
Is it right that James has 46 million twitter followers?

Surely we need to be all over some commercial opportunities in Colombia and Brazil?
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Macca77 on September 07, 2020, 12:00:58 AM
Not the first time some of Columbia's finest will be seen on Merseyside, am I right lads....
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: GLewis on September 07, 2020, 12:03:30 AM
Is it right that James has 46 million twitter followers?

Surely we need to be all over some commercial opportunities in Colombia and Brazil?

Instagram, but yeah.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Bluedylan on September 07, 2020, 12:04:13 AM
I think one thing we need to be aware of is that South America is a large continent with diverse countries, and Chileans might not be all that arsed about us having Colombians and Brazilians playing for us.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Toddacelli on September 07, 2020, 12:37:04 AM
Yep, visiting the Ruleteros is deffo on my bucket list. Have you seen aerial views of where there stadium is?

Absolutely fucking beautiful!
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Nicco on September 07, 2020, 12:38:14 AM





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Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: sam of the south on September 07, 2020, 12:47:37 AM
I just play one on TV, I'm actually a white American with the curse of the Irish.

Wow, that’s impressive, if a tad unethical  :wag:
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Fynci on September 07, 2020, 12:49:44 AM
I think one thing we need to be aware of is that South America is a large continent with diverse countries, and Chileans might not be all that arsed about us having Colombians and Brazilians playing for us.

Sign Vidal quick!
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 07, 2020, 01:09:30 AM
This thread highlights the commercial nous which we need to work on, with EFC fan services confirming there are currently no plans to sell Everton kits at retail in South America. Imagine the business we could do with a local partner as an outlet for James, Richarlison, and Allan shirts. Might even sell a couple of Bernard's.
https://twitter.com/EvertonFC_BRA/status/1300434783269457923
https://twitter.com/efc_fanservices/status/1301790934686928896

Like, 2 Bernards players? 'Cause that would free up a lot in wages.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 07, 2020, 01:10:51 AM
Is it right that James has 46 million twitter followers?

Surely we need to be all over some commercial opportunities in Colombia and Brazil?

I believe top 5 most followed athletes in the world, if you can believe that.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 07, 2020, 01:23:56 AM
People in south american countries definitely support other south american countries much more than us. Like we would support colombia or chile or Ghana if they were playing france or germany, but in south america they feel like one big country, a lot of people would even support their rival countries over supporting a european team for example. And on a player level they also relate to other latino players, so James is a massive star throughout, and brazilian stars also despite being the language barrier between spanish and portuguese neymar and co are hugely popular, Richarlison isn't that well known yet but if he has a big copa america or scores some good goals in WC qualifying his stock will rise quickly. In terms of kit its the same as asia, copies are really easily available, and with the difference in average wage not many are gonna buy official kits in south america, even rich people are used to buying counterfeit/pirated stuff.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: cantoffee on September 07, 2020, 01:42:35 AM
I believe top 5 most followed athletes in the world, if you can believe that.
Number 5 if you dont count Beckham and Ronaldinho.

Pretty wild but definitely one of the most well known South Americans in sport. Should be a golden marketing opportunity so Im sure we'll cock it up.

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Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: mikey_blue on September 07, 2020, 02:10:12 AM
I think we'd be missing the boat if we didn't try an establish ourselves on a ground level. Pre season tour, parade some of the players, go do some good that they do with EiTC. You know players like Richy would be all over this sort of stuff. Create a younger generation of fans thousands of miles away from Liverpool. Can only be a good thing.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: sam of the south on September 07, 2020, 02:14:25 AM
Marketing is completely alien to us.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Omar on September 07, 2020, 02:15:45 AM
I believe top 5 most followed athletes in the world, if you can believe that.

Look at him, of course I can believe it.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 07, 2020, 02:18:27 AM
Number 5 if you dont count Beckham and Ronaldinho.

Pretty wild but definitely one of the most well known South Americans in sport. Should be a golden marketing opportunity so Im sure we'll cock it up.

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Yes, should have clarified active. Who are the other 4? Are any of them not football stars?
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: sam of the south on September 07, 2020, 02:22:03 AM
Yes, should have clarified active. Who are the other 4? Are any of them not football stars?

You would imagine LeBron to be one of them.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: mikey_blue on September 07, 2020, 02:22:42 AM
Yes, should have clarified active. Who are the other 4? Are any of them not football stars?

Neymar (132 million)
David Beckham (60.5 million)
LeBron James (58 million)
Ronaldinho (51 million)
James Rodriguez (44.9 million)
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 07, 2020, 02:24:11 AM
You would imagine LeBron to be one of them.

He was the only non-football player I would have guessed, but I wasn't sure of his/the NBA's popularity globally.

Neymar (132 million)
David Beckham (60.5 million)
LeBron James (58 million)
Ronaldinho (51 million)
James Rodriguez (44.9 million)

132m lolol

what the holy fuck
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: mikey_blue on September 07, 2020, 02:26:11 AM
He was the only non-football player I would have guessed, but I wasn't sure of his/the NBA's popularity globally.

132m lolol

what the holy fuck

I fucked up.

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (200 million)

2. Lionel Messi (142 million)

3. Neymar (132 million)

4. David Beckham (60.5 million)

5. LeBron James (58 million)

6. Ronaldinho (51 million)

7. James Rodriguez (44.9 million)

8. Marcelo (43.6 million)

9. Gareth Bale (42.9 million)

10. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (41.4 million)

Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Omar on September 07, 2020, 02:26:28 AM
LeBron Hamez!
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 07, 2020, 02:27:46 AM
I fucked up.

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (200 million)

2. Lionel Messi (142 million)

3. Neymar (132 million)

4. David Beckham (60.5 million)

5. LeBron James (58 million)

6. Ronaldinho (51 million)

7. James Rodriguez (44.9 million)

8. Marcelo (43.6 million)

9. Gareth Bale (42.9 million)

10. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (41.4 million)

You know, I was also wondering where Ronaldo & Messi were...but still, 9 of 10 football players.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: mikey_blue on September 07, 2020, 02:29:20 AM
You know, I was also wondering where Ronaldo & Messi were...but still, 9 of 10 football players.

Yeah i was looking at it myself lol. Who knew you had to click on the actual article to extract all the info.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 07, 2020, 02:44:45 AM
Yeah i was looking at it myself lol. Who knew you had to click on the actual article to extract all the info.

Look, there's only so much time in the day. I get it.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: sam of the south on September 07, 2020, 03:04:23 AM
I fucked up.

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (200 million)

2. Lionel Messi (142 million)

3. Neymar (132 million)

4. David Beckham (60.5 million)

5. LeBron James (58 million)

6. Ronaldinho (51 million)

7. James Rodriguez (44.9 million)

8. Marcelo (43.6 million)

9. Gareth Bale (42.9 million)

10. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (41.4 million)



Nice to discover that outside of the biased BBC/Sky/BT bubble, Salah and those other bellends mean fuck all.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Shogun on September 07, 2020, 03:25:16 AM
I fucked up.

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (200 million)

2. Lionel Messi (142 million)

3. Neymar (132 million)

4. David Beckham (60.5 million)

5. LeBron James (58 million)

6. Ronaldinho (51 million)

7. James Rodriguez (44.9 million)

8. Marcelo (43.6 million)

9. Gareth Bale (42.9 million)

10. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (41.4 million)



Surprised there's no Federer
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Goaljira on September 07, 2020, 03:36:06 AM
Surprised there's no Federer

He's only got 7.8m.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Shogun on September 07, 2020, 03:37:17 AM
He's only got 7.8m.

I've got more than that
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Goaljira on September 07, 2020, 03:41:00 AM
I've got more than that

I've got about 7.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: sam of the south on September 07, 2020, 03:44:39 AM
I've got about 7.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Omar on September 07, 2020, 04:03:05 AM
I've got more than that

Shame you’re not monetizing it, mate!
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Trublue on September 07, 2020, 04:27:35 AM
Lets be honest we should just buy Everton Chile and try and dominate the South American market from there.

That's not a bad idea. A good way to find gems, we'd need a European club though too
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 07, 2020, 05:09:27 AM
It still irks me that we never properly took advantage of our US links. Mad bank to be made over there, and we missed the boat. Also, I spent months in Thailand whilst we had Chang as a sponsor, and never saw any sort of presence over there.

Obviously, we have others at the helm now, so hopefully they’re a bit more progressive then the previous board. Although, not sure what contacts or proven record of developing an international brand, the CEO of a charity would have.


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Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 07, 2020, 05:28:11 AM
It still irks me that we never properly took advantage of our US links. Mad bank to be made over there, and we missed the boat. Also, I spent months in Thailand whilst we had Chang as a sponsor, and never saw any sort of presence over there.

Obviously, we have others at the helm now, so hopefully they’re a bit more progressive then the previous board. Although, not sure what contacts or proven record of developing an international brand, the CEO of a charity would have.


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I can't even imagine what a smart revenue stream from the U.S. and SE Asia combined could mean. SE Asia in particular is a footy-mad region. And the Prem's popularity has been skyrocketing over here as you probably already know.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Jamokachi on September 07, 2020, 11:10:07 AM
I don't really think we can expect much without being successful. All this talk of "failing to capitalise" is a bit of a stretch when we're finishing no higher than 4th (on one occasion) and haven't won anything since 1995.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 07, 2020, 12:52:34 PM
I don't really think we can expect much without being successful. All this talk of "failing to capitalise" is a bit of a stretch when we're finishing no higher than 4th (on one occasion) and haven't won anything since 1995.

And a couple of other footy clubs like Man Utd would have to disappear overnight for the type of growth I’m reading about in this thread.
Title: South American Connection
Post by: mikey_blue on September 07, 2020, 01:47:16 PM
I don't really think we can expect much without being successful. All this talk of "failing to capitalise" is a bit of a stretch when we're finishing no higher than 4th (on one occasion) and haven't won anything since 1995.

And a couple of other footy clubs like Man Utd would have to disappear overnight for the type of growth I'm reading about in this thread.


They're not mutually exclusive. Of course a brand will grow a long with success, which you hope is what we're aiming for, but being able to garner support and attention from things like outreach can happen. I'm not suggesting we'll usurp the likes of Man U and Barca lol, maybe just make our presence known in regions where people don't even know we exist. Build a foundation.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 07, 2020, 08:12:18 PM

They're not mutually exclusive. Of course a brand will grow a long with success, which you hope is what we're aiming for, but being able to garner support and attention from things like outreach can happen. I'm not suggesting we'll usurp the likes of Man U and Barca lol, maybe just make our presence known in regions where people don't even know we exist. Build a foundation.

Right. Otherwise what's the point? United is never going away, unfortunately lol. But we can still aspire to grow our brand and build a better global brand.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Toddacelli on September 07, 2020, 08:21:52 PM
I fucked up.

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (200 million)

2. Lionel Messi (142 million)

3. Neymar (132 million)

4. David Beckham (60.5 million)

5. LeBron James (58 million)

6. Ronaldinho (51 million)

7. James Rodriguez (44.9 million)

8. Marcelo (43.6 million)

9. Gareth Bale (42.9 million)

10. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (41.4 million)



And how the fuck has that boring bastard Bale got 42 million followers? There's only 3 million people in wales!
Title: South American Connection
Post by: mikey_blue on September 08, 2020, 02:13:13 AM
https://twitter.com/alanmyersmedia/status/1303045384978210822

The brass have obviously seen my thread. I'm surely going to be contacted in regards to starting up the Mikey_Blue chain of academy's all over South America.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Toffee1 on October 09, 2020, 11:41:38 PM

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1314585159107190785
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Thornton_19 on October 10, 2020, 12:01:30 AM
Be boss if when we are winning the Champions League, Everton vina de mar are smashing up the Copa Libertadores.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: howard1334 on October 10, 2020, 12:07:23 AM
When I was in Chile two summers ago, I dragged my friends that were traveling with me to an Everton de Vina Del Mar game.  They won 2-1, if I recall correctly.  Grabbed myself a jersey (way too small).  Fun time.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Toddacelli on October 10, 2020, 05:43:40 AM
Contract Dave there with an away trip! Go-ed lad! 😁
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Outworlder47 on October 10, 2020, 10:13:33 AM
This partnership is pretty big. Bigger than just the partnership with Everton de Viña del Mar. Grupo Pachuca has some pretty substantial clubs:
The namesake, Pachuca, was a founding member of Liga MX (pronounced Em-ECKees) and is the oldest professional club in the country. They've been very successful through their history.
Club León, also in Liga MX, has been a top side for the past few years at least. The Liga MX season is split into two halves with a champion crowned for each half; León were champions for the first half (Apertura) of the 2020-21 season.
Tlaxcala are their third Mexican club, currently playing in the second division. They shuffled this around after the league ended promotion/relegation (at least temporarily.)
They also own Talleres de Córdoba, playing in the Argentine first division. They turned in back-to-back promotions after Grupo Pachuca bought them.

The Mexican, Argentinian, and Chilean opportunities here are great!
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Bluedylan on October 10, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
I wonder if we'll actively look to sign more prominent South American players (as long as they fit in with the team and the manager's vision) to foster this growing relationship in multiple South American countries now.

It's highly promising though, and the kind of forward thinking business growth and the dreaded word, brand growth, that people much more knowledgeable than me have been calling for at the club, for quite a while.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Toffee1 on October 10, 2020, 04:45:59 PM
https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1859132/everton-de-vina-del-mar-a-brief-history
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Jamokachi on October 10, 2020, 06:09:54 PM


I remember Moyes having a proper moan about how this game interfered with his pre-season preparations, the dour prick.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Toddacelli on October 14, 2020, 04:28:15 PM


I remember Moyes having a proper moan about how this game interfered with his pre-season preparations, the dour prick.

I absolutely fucking loved it.
Title: Re: South American Connection
Post by: Gary1878 on October 14, 2020, 05:50:07 PM
Fans were loving that as well. What an atmosphere for a friendly!