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Title: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on September 14, 2020, 08:10:42 PM
Can't find decent info on when he's due back.

All I get is 'Next Year' or '2021' - yes but is that January or December?

As things stand, I know Allan seems fit as a butcher's dog, but it would be nice to bring Gbamin back in at some point. General concencus was that he added quality to our midfield. With the arrival of the three musketeers, he could add real depth to the squad. He's got to be a better option than Delph, Besic or Baningame - but when is he back?
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on September 14, 2020, 08:12:45 PM
Can't find decent info on when he's due back.

All I get is 'Next Year' or '2021' - yes but is that January or December?

As things stand, I know Allan seems fit as a butcher's dog, but it would be nice to bring Gbamin back in at some point. General concencus was that he added quality to our midfield. With the arrival of the three musketeers, he could add real depth to the squad. He's got to be a better option than Delph, Besic or Baningame - but when is he back?
Generally not holding out much hope of ever seeing him again

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 14, 2020, 08:16:47 PM
Longer it goes less likely we'll ever see more than the odd attempt at a comeback, unfortunately.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Polledreng on September 14, 2020, 08:18:49 PM
Wasnt happy when Allan seemed to get a knock .....had a look at our subs and thought  oh when is Gbarmin back
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 14, 2020, 08:22:16 PM
Generally not holding out much hope of ever seeing him again

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Now now, you've been doing so well.

On topic, I believe the latest update was originally January, but was then moved up to around the November timeframe.

I read a very interesting insight from a Physiotherapist who detailed how the 2 injuries most likely happened. The thigh injury was pretty simply what most of us have come to understand: rushed back too soon without giving him the necessary time to recuperate.

He then went on to say that while someone's rehabbing a major injury like that, other muscles and ligaments, etc. "tighten up" from not being used. So when the player comes back, he's at a greater risk of a different injury for that reason. Seemed plausible to me.

Whatever we do, I hope it's a real "ease him back into the side" plan. Maybe even a good run with the U23s to build up his match fitness in less demanding games.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Gary1878 on September 14, 2020, 08:27:19 PM
My fear is that he won't come back anywhere near the same player that we signed. He looks like an agile player who likes a tackle, and it might take him 12-18 months to get back flying into tackles again with confidence.

The psychological aspect of these injuries will hit him as hard as the physical side, and in the Premier League, taking half a yard off of your pace, or having a moment's hesitation into a tackle can make the difference between excellent and average.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: cantoffee on September 14, 2020, 08:52:38 PM
Got to be patient with him given the terrible injuries so far.

Only turns 25 soon so still many years ahead of him but might take him a further 12 months to get back to fitness, up to speed, and confident - that's assuming he recovers.

He is definitely our Allan replacement and we need to think long term with him.

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: blargins on September 14, 2020, 09:02:24 PM


He is definitely our Allan replacement and we need to think long term with him.

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I think we certainly need to look at him that way. If he is able to.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: markB on September 14, 2020, 09:48:44 PM
My fear is that he won't come back anywhere near the same player that we signed. He looks like an agile player who likes a tackle, and it might take him 12-18 months to get back flying into tackles again with confidence.

The psychological aspect of these injuries will hit him as hard as the physical side, and in the Premier League, taking half a yard off of your pace, or having a moment's hesitation into a tackle can make the difference between excellent and average.

we do not know what sort of player we signed he did ok 1st game but nothing more than that going of what we have signed with MB its a 65-70% that he was/is a good one and that might be a bit higher after the 3 lads that just came in
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 14, 2020, 09:49:52 PM
we do not know what sort of player we signed he did ok 1st game but nothing more than that going of what we have signed with MB its a 65-70% that he was/is a good one and that might be a bit higher after the 3 lads that just came in

I didn't see a ton of him at Mainz, but enough to know he offers a lot more than we saw in 135 minutes he never should've played in the first place.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: markB on September 14, 2020, 09:51:26 PM
I didn't see a ton of him at Mainz, but enough to know he offers a lot more than we saw in 135 minutes he never should've played in the first place.

Oh 100% should not have played
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 14, 2020, 09:52:43 PM
Oh 100% should not have played

Thanks, Obam...I mean, Silva.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Heisenberg on September 14, 2020, 10:01:43 PM
Wouldnít surprise me if we seen him play more as a CB than a CM near the end of the year
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Macca77 on September 14, 2020, 10:16:09 PM
Looking forward to seeing him play, whenever that will be
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 14, 2020, 11:38:43 PM
Seems like he could be a very nice piece. Knowing that the FA Cup kicks off for us in January, hopefully he can be back and ready to be eased back into the side by then. His availability would ease pressure on Allan/Gomes/Doucourť, and also provide a more defensive midfielder to come on late in games to shore things up when he's not starting.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Bob Latcford on September 15, 2020, 02:53:33 AM
Just canít see him being all that he once was. All I can see is when he does come back he will be like glass.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 15, 2020, 03:46:57 AM
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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 15, 2020, 04:14:23 AM
Just canít see him being all that he once was. All I can see is when he does come back he will be like glass.

How do you know what he once was, out of curiosity?
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on September 15, 2020, 01:16:03 PM
Bloody hell has no-one ever heard the phrase "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."

After these two injuries he's gonna come back like a tank!
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: mikey_blue on September 15, 2020, 01:42:13 PM
Bloody hell has no-one ever heard the phrase "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."

After these two injuries he's gonna come back like a tank!

Theyíre some pretty horrific injuries that heís had, but medicine has improved so much to the point where they can repair almost all injuries.

Heís missing some crucial time in his development though, which isnít something heíll get back, but Iíve got a good feeling about him being able to come back later in the season with no real pressure on him. We need to think long term with him, heís still young and at a prime age to be eased into this midfield.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: di_guyo on September 15, 2020, 04:29:54 PM
The good news, I guess, is that prior to Everton he seemingly had no issue playing 30 games a season. Hopefully just bad luck so far.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: brap2 on September 15, 2020, 05:00:16 PM
On the plus side if he does come back then Allan Gbamin Doucoure is a frightening midfield.

He'd also be natural cover for Allan's position which we badly miss atm.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Discostu on September 15, 2020, 07:24:24 PM
Wasn't there some talk about his preferred position being a central defender?

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 15, 2020, 08:11:09 PM
Wasn't there some talk about his preferred position being a central defender?

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I don't believe it was preferred, just more that he was happy to play there if the team needed him to. At any rate it would be great if he could bring that versatility to the table to allow us to focus on other areas of need.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: mikey_blue on September 16, 2020, 02:25:27 AM
Wasn't there some talk about his preferred position being a central defender?

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His agent popped up saying that if he wants him to play at CB because he'll be a £90m player.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 16, 2020, 02:45:10 AM
His agent popped up saying that if he wants him to play at CB because he'll be a £90m player.
good job agents dont run football then... oh wait
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Coyney83 on September 19, 2020, 03:41:42 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-injury-update-gbamin-delph-18958958

Encouraging update from Carlo on Gbamin. If he were even ready to return to first team training by November that would be a real positive.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: bornblue88 on September 19, 2020, 03:55:12 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-injury-update-gbamin-delph-18958958

Encouraging update from Carlo on Gbamin. If he were even ready to return to first team training by November that would be a real positive.


That would be amazing. I thought he was out until next year. I really just want to ease him back in very very slowly tbh to make sure he doesnít get another injury or a recurrence. When he is back Iíd want him to get a shitty little 5 mins somewhere when weíve got the game wrapped up and hopefully do that a few times before giving him any major minutes
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: markB on September 19, 2020, 05:42:26 PM


That would be amazing. I thought he was out until next year. I really just want to ease him back in very very slowly tbh to make sure he doesnít get another injury or a recurrence. When he is back Iíd want him to get a shitty little 5 mins somewhere when weíve got the game wrapped up and hopefully do that a few times before giving him any major minutes

Yeah back just as Delph get injured again
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: mikey_blue on October 13, 2020, 12:27:31 AM
Echo reporting he wonít be back till 2021.

Poor lad.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on October 13, 2020, 01:17:03 AM
Echo reporting he won't be back till 2021.

Poor lad.
I thought that was always the original expectation?

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Cozzie on October 13, 2020, 01:26:37 AM
I thought that was always the original expectation?

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Yeah.

I heard he was due to resume training in Dec.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on October 13, 2020, 02:14:56 AM
few weeks ago "Gbamin is doing his own individual programme to recover, and I think he will be ready around October-November," the Everton boss said.

so this must be a new set back,    sad for the lad ,    but looks like we are never going to see him, again
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 13, 2020, 02:39:57 AM
Cant find anything about a new setback.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Undisputed_blue on October 13, 2020, 03:37:06 AM
No need to rush Gbamin given his unfortunate injury circumstances.

Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Omar on October 13, 2020, 03:48:53 AM
I hope you like Gbamin
I hope you like Gbamin
I hope you like Gbamin too....
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Robioto on October 13, 2020, 03:55:25 AM
Light training November
Normal Training December
Available January at the earliest

Sounds about right?
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: sam of the south on October 13, 2020, 04:28:03 AM
I reckon Godfrey is, among other things, the Gbamin replacement.

Young, physical, and can play both CB and DM.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Thornton_19 on October 13, 2020, 08:18:01 AM
We should just relax about Gbamin, it will take time to get him playing football again.

Consider him not a part of the squad at all so when he does return there is no pressure on his fitness or form.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Escla on October 13, 2020, 01:32:12 PM
We should just relax about Gbamin, it will take time to get him playing football again.

Consider him not a part of the squad at all so when he does return there is no pressure on his fitness or form.

This, letís consider him as a January window signing that will need a couple of weeks to get up to speed before shining .
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Trowel on October 13, 2020, 02:41:24 PM
Cant find anything about a new setback.
I think it's just the Echo speculating in their round up of current injuries.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-injury-news-richarlison-allan-18324806
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on October 13, 2020, 05:16:02 PM
I hope you like Gbamin
I hope you like Gbamin
I hope you like Gbamin too....

Ooh yeah...
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on October 13, 2020, 11:01:18 PM
few weeks ago "Gbamin is doing his own individual programme to recover, and I think he will be ready around October-November," the Everton boss said.

so this must be a new set back,    sad for the lad ,    but looks like we are never going to see him, again

What an awfully dour leap to conclusion that was.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Confucius on October 14, 2020, 12:45:19 AM
Is this like an Apple Watch? Or does it give better directions on its maps?
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on October 14, 2020, 12:42:47 PM
Is this like an Apple Watch? Or does it give better directions on its maps?

Nah it's like a more rugged, outdoors, fitness-focussed type, without so many of your fancy functions.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Mick 1995 on October 14, 2020, 07:02:51 PM
Quote from: Ancelotti
ďGbamin is working individually, he is not here [at USM Finch Farm] yet," the boss added.

"I think he is going to be here in 15 days and start to work apart from the team in the beginning, and then with the team.

ďAt the end of the November, I think he can be fit to play.Ē
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Hawkandro on October 14, 2020, 08:10:49 PM
Ancelotti confirmed today he should be able to play come the end of November.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Cozzie on October 14, 2020, 08:38:55 PM
All good news.

Him and Godfrey should be able deputies if the worst happens and Allan gets injured.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Verm on October 14, 2020, 09:53:14 PM
He is a mere figment of our collective imagination.


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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Robioto on October 14, 2020, 11:57:42 PM
This is pretty exciting news.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: mikey_blue on October 15, 2020, 12:33:29 AM
https://twitter.com/nilsatisnews/status/1316335991175745537

Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Shogun on October 15, 2020, 12:39:32 AM
https://twitter.com/nilsatisnews/status/1316335991175745537



The interviewer's scepticism made me laugh. 
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Sixymack Version2.0 on October 15, 2020, 01:02:25 AM
Cant wait to see the big man in action.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: mikey_blue on October 15, 2020, 01:36:57 AM
The interviewer's scepticism made me laugh.

Proper blue.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Macca77 on October 16, 2020, 02:36:03 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1316816232084115458
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: bornblue88 on October 16, 2020, 04:45:13 AM
If his 1st game back isnít the last 5 minutes of a game thatís already over then Iíll be flapping it goodo
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Jamokachi on October 16, 2020, 06:47:07 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1316816232084115458

Big lad, ain't he?
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Shogun on October 16, 2020, 07:36:05 AM
Mad that he's now 32
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Confucius on October 16, 2020, 08:28:20 AM
Rivals anyone in our team in terms of physique. WOW!
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Sixymack Version2.0 on October 16, 2020, 11:14:34 AM
Keep smiling big man
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on October 16, 2020, 02:08:16 PM
Gbamin, Allan, Doucoure.

People aren't just gonna stroll through the middle any more are they?

Might as well put a sign in the centre circle at Goodison that says Keep Off The Grass 😁
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: sam of the south on October 16, 2020, 02:23:43 PM
Gbamin, Allan, Doucoure.

People aren't just gonna stroll through the middle any more are they?

Might as well put a sign in the centre circle at Goodison that says Keep Off The Grass 😁

That sounds like an anti-Brian Clough slogan.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: sam of the south on October 16, 2020, 02:40:34 PM
Rivals anyone in our team in terms of physique. WOW!

Ben Godfrey disputes this.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on October 16, 2020, 02:57:09 PM
12 year old me would come onto NSNO and look at some of the comments we make and go "Gayyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eee!!!!!"

I'm so glad we've all moved on so much, both in terms of myself personally and the world at large.

It's good that we can talk so positively about men's bodies these days. I hope our conversations about women's bodies catch up real soon (totally including myself in this).
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: TSGun on October 16, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Good news and can't wait to see him back.

You'd think he'd be pumped for what he's seen transpire so far.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Macca77 on October 16, 2020, 03:32:28 PM
I think it's fair to say that we have the sexiest team in the world, proper studmuffins
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 16, 2020, 03:43:56 PM
Made up for him for even getting this far. Seemed like a bit of a doomsday scenario at one stage.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toffee1 on October 16, 2020, 04:11:38 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1316816232084115458

Great to see him smiling and looking well, must have been hard mentally for him too.

Bit disappointed that they did not use the theme tune to the 'Six Million Dollar Man' for that?
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on October 16, 2020, 05:09:29 PM
Made up for him for even getting this far. Seemed like a bit of a doomsday scenario at one stage.
I agree, I'm still a bit sceptical that we'll ever see him, or the very best of him, but this is great for him as he's essentially written off nearly 2 years of his career

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on October 29, 2020, 08:05:05 PM
https://twitter.com/grandoldteam/status/1321161323909156865
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: blargins on October 29, 2020, 08:39:56 PM
https://twitter.com/grandoldteam/status/1321161323909156865

That's the most unique way I've ever seen of cutting the grass.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: bornblue88 on October 29, 2020, 08:55:47 PM
Good to see. Easy does it
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on October 29, 2020, 08:57:57 PM
That's the most unique way I've ever seen of cutting the grass.

It's somewhere in Paris wherever he's been working out. Not sure where.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Escla on October 29, 2020, 09:45:07 PM
It's somewhere in Paris wherever he's been working out. Not sure where.
Why is he not doing his rehab at FF ? Will need 14 days quarantine when he comes back.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 29, 2020, 09:46:19 PM
Why is he not doing his rehab at FF ? Will need 14 days quarantine when he comes back.
Think thats the least of his worries to be honest
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Escla on October 29, 2020, 09:50:04 PM
Think thats the least of his worries to be honest

Thought we were supposed to have world class facilities and medical/physio staff at FF where he would be under the supervision of the club ?
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on October 29, 2020, 09:56:29 PM
Why is he not doing his rehab at FF ? Will need 14 days quarantine when he comes back.

Is there a 2-week quarantine coming in from France?

Regardless, I'm fairly certain the Club has planned for all this. I know they felt it best he rehab this part of his training there.

Edit: this is where he is btw - https://www.odysium.com/en/physical-preparation/
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 29, 2020, 10:04:06 PM
Thought we were supposed to have world class facilities and medical/physio staff at FF where he would be under the supervision of the club ?
I meant the isolation
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Escla on October 29, 2020, 10:15:14 PM
Is there a 2-week quarantine coming in from France?

Regardless, I'm fairly certain the Club has planned for all this. I know they felt it best he rehab this part of his training there.

Edit: this is where he is btw - https://www.odysium.com/en/physical-preparation/

Yup, whenever he comes back from France after his rehab he will spend the next 14 days sitting in his hotel room/suite, if he were doing his rehab here he could go straight into first team training once his rehab was finished.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 29, 2020, 10:16:37 PM
14 days. The lads been sidelined for 8 years.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 29, 2020, 10:24:23 PM
Pretty sure heíll fall under Elite sportsperson and do the necessary testing to avoid any need to isolate e.g like Bale

So yeah, donít panic
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: velimski on October 29, 2020, 10:55:37 PM
Pretty sure heíll fall under Elite sportsperson and do the necessary testing to avoid any need to isolate e.g like Bale

So yeah, donít panic

Agreed. He'll do whatever is necessary to avoid the 14 isolation just like all professional footballers have been doing for months after returning from abroad.

Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on October 29, 2020, 10:58:43 PM
14 days. The lads been sidelined for 8 years.

Doc, this splinter is killing me, can you do something about it?

Son, we're not yet done surgically re-attaching your leg.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 30, 2020, 12:55:11 AM
Agreed. He'll do whatever is necessary to avoid the 14 isolation just like all professional footballers have been doing for months after returning from abroad.



Maybe Usamov will put him up on his yacht? Could think of worse places to sit off.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Juanito on November 12, 2020, 02:49:39 AM
He will be back end of November, lads. Solve that problem of gaping holes behind Allan and Doucoure.

                         
     
   
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: sam of the south on November 12, 2020, 03:01:55 AM
He will be back end of November, lads. Solve that problem of gaping holes behind Allan and Doucoure.

                         
     
   

No pressure on him, though, dude, proper nasty injury that he had, which really affects explosive power.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Juanito on November 12, 2020, 03:47:42 AM
No pressure on him, though, dude, proper nasty injury that he had, which really affects explosive power.

I know, I know...but he gonna transform into the new Busquets and win the Ballon díOR
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Makis on November 12, 2020, 04:05:31 AM
Thought we were supposed to have world class facilities and medical/physio staff at FF where he would be under the supervision of the club ?
I'm sure there are adequate facilities in France as well. And I'm also sure club's medical staff are monitoring and guiding the rehabilitation process just fine.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: sam of the south on November 12, 2020, 04:06:16 AM
I know, I know...but he gonna transform into the new Busquets and win the Ballon díOR

Haha, thatís the spirit.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: sam of the south on November 12, 2020, 04:07:28 AM
I'm sure there are adequate facilities in France as well. And I'm also sure club's medical staff are monitoring and guiding the rehabilitation process just fine.

Yeah, and heíll be seeing family and stuff, probably, so good for his well being.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on November 13, 2020, 04:50:15 AM
He'll be great. Or shit. There is no in-between on NSNO.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on November 13, 2020, 01:25:11 PM
He'll be great. Or shit. There is no in-between on NSNO.
I'm going shit. Everyone seems to say Carlo rushes players back too early, he hasn't rushed him, therefore he's shit

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Old England Toffee on November 13, 2020, 10:22:24 PM
He'll be great. Or shit. There is no in-between on NSNO.
Shit or the shit. I just hope everyone still likes Gbamintoo by the time he comes back
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Escla on November 13, 2020, 10:32:41 PM
I'm going shit. Everyone seems to say Carlo rushes players back too early, he hasn't rushed him, therefore he's shit

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Canít say Iíve heard people accusing Carlo of rushing players back ?
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 13, 2020, 11:02:52 PM
He'll be our usual just like a new signing guy... then turn out shit, or break down again because he's crocked.
I actually think he'll be decent if he puts the injury behind him.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on November 14, 2020, 12:12:04 AM
Can't say I've heard people accusing Carlo of rushing players back ?
Where were you on the man u thread? Apparently James and Coleman were and he has a bit of reputation for it

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on November 14, 2020, 05:01:20 PM
Wouldn't make sense to me and probably BS, but you never know?

Everton are plotting a January loan for forgotten man Jean-Philippe Gbamin to reignite his career, Football Insider understands.

The 25-year-old has suffered nearly 18 months of injury hell since his £25million move from Mainz in the summer of 2019.

Carlo Ancelotti recently revealed that Gbamin is due to return to Evertonís Finch Farm headquarters after the international break after an extended spell in France working with a specialist coaching and fitness company called Odysium.

The Merseysiders hope that Gbamin will be able to return to training and then be available for selection going into December.

But a strong possibility is that the Ivory Coast international is made available for a January loan to get the regular game time he needs to revive his career.
He underwent two thigh operations as his first season was almost a total write-off and has been in Paris to recover from an achilles problem.

Everton reinforced their midfield with the £20m-plus signings of Allan and Abdoulaye Doucoure in the summer after buying Fabian Delph, Andre Gomes and Gbamin himself 12 months earlier.




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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on November 15, 2020, 02:00:11 AM
Would make sense if the rest of the team was ticking over nicely.

He could go in at a lower level with less expectation for game time.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Escla on November 15, 2020, 04:05:11 PM
Would be fucking mad if after all this we got him fit then sent him out to get injured in first game .
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Bluebridge on November 16, 2020, 01:16:06 AM
I donít see the point in loaning him out, get him fit in the reserves for a month, and introduce him slowly into first team, we need the likes of him ready for when the inevitable suspensions come for Allan, and weíve seen how bad we are when weíre relying on last seasons midfield to come back in.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 16, 2020, 02:21:24 AM
I want a 4-1-2-3 (not every game/situation, but as an option) when he comes back.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on November 16, 2020, 02:43:24 AM
Maybe he ain't that good and Carlo doesn't see the point in trying to bring him in? He was bought in at a time when we couldn't attract the calibre on player we can now.

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: bornblue88 on November 16, 2020, 02:58:43 AM
Do we have too many foreign players or something? Madness to loan him out when heís what we need right now
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: mikey_blue on November 16, 2020, 05:28:31 PM
Maybe he ain't that good and Carlo doesn't see the point in trying to bring him in? He was bought in at a time when we couldn't attract the calibre on player we can now.

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Heís hardly done any on ball training since Carlo got here. I donít know how he would of made that interpretation.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 19, 2020, 04:26:19 PM
The injury he's had must have taken some toll however good he may or may not have been in the first place.
I wouldn't hold out much hope for him being a regular any time soon.
If he does come back strong and holds a place in the team I'd consider it a bonus.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on November 20, 2020, 05:18:58 PM
Yep. I think this season is about getting him to a point where he can play competitively next season.

Get him minutes, get him recovered, get him fit, get him rested. Then he could be the squad player next season that means we can get rid of Gylfi or Gomes or both.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on November 20, 2020, 05:58:07 PM


Yep. I think this season is about getting him to a point where he can play competitively next season.

Get him minutes, get him recovered, get him fit, get him rested. Then he could be the squad player next season that means we can get rid of Gylfi or Gomes or both.

Genuine question, and I know people will argue it wouldn't be hard, but I've not seen enough of him to suggest he was better than either pre injury, let alone after the injuries and time he's been out. What makes you so confident he could replace either, apart from 'they're shit'?

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: TheRam on November 20, 2020, 06:06:51 PM

Genuine question, and I know people will argue it wouldn't be hard, but I've not seen enough of him to suggest he was better than either pre injury, let alone after the injuries and time he's been out. What makes you so confident he could replace either, apart from 'they're shit'?

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If he can get back to the level he was at with Mainz then he will be a much better option than either of them.

He can even play the 6 which would allow Allan to mover further forward
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on November 20, 2020, 06:44:17 PM
If he can get back to the level he was at with Mainz then he will be a much better option than either of them.

He can even play the 6 which would allow Allan to mover further forward

Cool, personally only seen him play for those few minutes with us and he looked pretty raw, although it wasnt really long enough to judge
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on November 20, 2020, 08:06:25 PM

Genuine question, and I know people will argue it wouldn't be hard, but I've not seen enough of him to suggest he was better than either pre injury, let alone after the injuries and time he's been out. What makes you so confident he could replace either, apart from 'they're shit'?

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Genuine answer - I've probably seen less of him than you, so I haven't actually got anything else other than "They're shit", but that should be enough right?

Because they ARE shit.

Really shit.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on November 20, 2020, 08:44:07 PM
Genuine answer - I've probably seen less of him than you, so I haven't actually got anything else other than "They're shit", but that should be enough right?

Because they ARE shit.

Really shit.
Well yeah, I just think our expectations could be wide of the mark. He hasn't played for 2 years and hardly played for Ivory Coast pre injury. You obviously want him to do well, I'm just not seeing enough to hold of that much hope i suppose, but like I said I don't really know what type of player he is, have only read comments on him and his style

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: youngysenior on November 20, 2020, 09:06:40 PM
"Anyone" who doesn't hide from the ball is better than Gylfi.

Genuine question, and I know people will argue it wouldn't be hard, but I've not seen enough of him to suggest he was better than either pre injury, let alone after the injuries and time he's been out. What makes you so confident he could replace either, apart from 'they're shit'?

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Waltzer on November 20, 2020, 09:48:07 PM
Getting closer to seeing what he can do either way..

ďGbamin is in the last part of his recovery. I think he will be ready to train and play in two or three weeks.




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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Old England Toffee on November 20, 2020, 10:58:27 PM
Anyone else think of these when they read the title
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or these

(https://static.toiimg.com/photo/54128830/Garmin-Vivoactive.jpg)

or just bob

(https://s.france24.com/media/display/fef8d424-0aab-11e9-b7ef-005056a964fe/w:1280/p:4x3/bob-marley-musique.jpg)
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Toddacelli on November 20, 2020, 11:38:55 PM
We know how he likes his donuts....   :)
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: ajax_andy on November 21, 2020, 02:52:57 PM
The injury he's had must have taken some toll however good he may or may not have been in the first place.
I wouldn't hold out much hope for him being a regular any time soon.
If he does come back strong and holds a place in the team I'd consider it a bonus.

Exactly this, we need to have zero expectations with him.
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: blargins on November 21, 2020, 03:40:06 PM
Not expecting anything great from him to be honest. Be surprised if he does succeed here now. But modern medicine can be marvelous. Guess time will tell.


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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: bornblue88 on November 22, 2020, 03:39:39 AM
Gomes and sigurdsson donít provide the good passing and creativity they were bought for. The hope is that Gbamin will do what he was bought for, which is to at least be solid defensively from midfield and pass it tidily. The other two are weak and do nothing
Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Nicco on November 22, 2020, 06:28:07 PM
I expect little to nothing from Gbamin.
Which is more than you get from Gylfi and Gomes.

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Title: Re: GbaminWatch
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 22, 2020, 09:57:24 PM
Fuck it. He's gonna be our No.6 saviour.

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