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Title: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 29, 2010, 08:03:53 PM
Howard
Neville Distin Jagielka Baines
Coleman Felli Arteta Pienaar
Cahill
Anichebe

We are gonna have to defend our arses off and its not gonna be pretty to say the least

Stoke 1 2 Everton

Jones for them, Cahill and Baines and Anichebe for us
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: kunal32 on December 29, 2010, 08:12:59 PM
Draw.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: JoeHart on December 29, 2010, 08:14:38 PM
howard

      dustbin jags jonny
coleman  mikel  pienaar felli billy
      vic   becks

lets go for it for once in 9 years.

and yes baines isnt in the squad as despite his abilty going forward, its a hue myth he is a good defender. Plus I want us to attack and play in the other teams half just once under moyes. Billy in theory is a better attacking option than Baines, but if you want to replace Billy with Baines I will let you.

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Paul. on December 29, 2010, 08:16:19 PM
............................. Howard....................... .......
Neville.........Jags......... .......Distin.........Baines. .
Coleman......Fellaini........ ..Pienaar.........Bily.....
............................. Cahill....................... .........
............................. Beckford..................... .......
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on December 29, 2010, 08:44:43 PM
stoke dont lose 2 home games in a row, so draw or defeat 
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: fortune9 on December 29, 2010, 08:47:18 PM
howard
hibbert jags distin baines
coleman osman fellaini pienaar
cahill
beckford
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fynci on December 29, 2010, 08:58:58 PM
Howard
Neville Distin Jagielka Baines
Coleman Felli Arteta Pienaar
Cahill
Anichebe

We are gonna have to defend our arses off and its not gonna be pretty to say the least

Stoke 1 2 Everton

Jones for them, Cahill and Baines and Anichebe for us

I think it's the team that we'll see. Hibbert for Jags, if he still isn't back.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on December 29, 2010, 10:08:09 PM
howard

      dustbin jags jonny
coleman  mikel  pienaar felli billy
      vic   becks

lets go for it for once in 9 years.

and yes baines isnt in the squad as despite his abilty going forward, its a hue myth he is a good defender. Plus I want us to attack and play in the other teams half just once under moyes. Billy in theory is a better attacking option than Baines, but if you want to replace Billy with Baines I will let you.



3 at the back? No Cahill and no Baines?

Let's not include our two best players this year, that'll go well. Come on mate, Im all for thinking of something new to try and get the team scoring and winning, but that's just plain stupid.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Polledreng on December 29, 2010, 10:13:19 PM
Stoke 1 2 Everton

Jones for them, Cahill and Baines and Anichebe for us
which of the 3 gets his goal cancelled  ??
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 29, 2010, 10:20:57 PM
We might get battered by these palookas if we don't elevate our game. Moyes needs to put a team out there that will at least battle the whole way. So no Yak or Saha or Arteta or Bilya. Start with:

howard
hibbert-jags-distin-baines
anichebe-osman-fellaini-pienaar
cahill
beckford

Take off anyone at half time who isn't giving his all.
Bring Vaughan off the bench to run at them for the last half hour.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 29, 2010, 10:24:24 PM
which of the 3 gets his goal cancelled  ??
Oooops sorry, as if Anichebe will score!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: di_guyo on December 29, 2010, 10:38:30 PM
howard
nev jags distin baines
coleman arteta felli pienaar
cahill
beckford

that's what i want to see
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2010, 10:39:18 PM
We'll get a draw if we keep a clean sheet, other than that it'll be a stoke win
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Thom on December 29, 2010, 10:40:50 PM
I think it's fairly obvious what will happen for this one. Moyes will go out with our most physical looking side to combat Stoke's physicality. That means Anichebe and Jagielka, if he's fit, and maybe Osman for his tenacity starting too (if he's fit also). I'd expect Saha to start too as, supposedly, he's good in the air so he'll be stuck at the near post for defending corners.

To sum up, I don't want to see this lineup but I think it's kind of nailed on:

-----------------Howard---------
Neville--Jags---Distin---Baines
Anichebe--Arteta---Fellaini---Pienaar
------------Cahill-----Saha--------

Be arsed making a prediction. We could either batter them or be battered depending on what moods are players/Moyes are in.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on December 29, 2010, 10:45:17 PM
howard

      dustbin jags jonny
coleman  mikel  pienaar felli billy
      vic   becks

lets go for it for once in 9 years.

and yes baines isnt in the squad as despite his abilty going forward, its a hue myth he is a good defender. Plus I want us to attack and play in the other teams half just once under moyes. Billy in theory is a better attacking option than Baines, but if you want to replace Billy with Baines I will let you.



You messing?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 29, 2010, 11:04:49 PM
I think it's fairly obvious what will happen for this one. Moyes will go out with our most physical looking side to combat Stoke's physicality. That means Anichebe and Jagielka, if he's fit, and maybe Osman for his tenacity starting too (if he's fit also). I'd expect Saha to start too as, supposedly, he's good in the air so he'll be stuck at the near post for defending corners.

To sum up, I don't want to see this lineup but I think it's kind of nailed on:

-----------------Howard---------
Neville--Jags---Distin---Baines
Anichebe--Arteta---Fellaini---Pienaar
------------Cahill-----Saha--------

Be arsed making a prediction. We could either batter them or be battered depending on what moods are players/Moyes are in.

The only way Saha is good in the air these days is if he's on a ferris wheel or in his backyard laying in a hammock.

Though you're probably right in thinking he'll start.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on December 29, 2010, 11:17:02 PM
Would like to see...




Howard

Coleman   Jags     Distin      Baines

Fellaini

Bilya          Osman            Pienaar

Rodwell

Beckford

(Presuming that was Cahill's last game before going away.) I on't expect to see anything close to it.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: }-m-a-c-c-a-{ on December 29, 2010, 11:28:51 PM
The most organised team we've played at Goodison defensively, as soon as we scored they attacked and would have hammered us if they did so from the start, not looking forward to this game if I'm honest.

Howard
Neville Jagielka Distin Baines
Coleman Fellaini Arteta Pienaar
Cahill Beckford
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on December 30, 2010, 06:12:43 AM
Won't Cahill be available for this game? Or are we arguing with Australia about it?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2010, 06:44:55 AM
I have yet to predict a correct Everton score this season so Im going for 4-0 Stoke.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 30, 2010, 06:58:05 AM
Would like to see...




Howard

Coleman   Jags     Distin      Baines

Fellaini

Bilya          Osman            Pienaar

Rodwell

Beckford

(Presuming that was Cahill's last game before going away.) I on't expect to see anything close to it.

That would be an interesting attacking side. But we might need to lay landmines on the right side with Bilya and Coleman covering it.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: davidian on December 30, 2010, 08:20:22 AM
howard

      dustbin jags jonny
coleman  mikel  pienaar felli billy
      vic   becks

lets go for it for once in 9 years.

and yes baines isnt in the squad as despite his abilty going forward, its a hue myth he is a good defender. Plus I want us to attack and play in the other teams half just once under moyes. Billy in theory is a better attacking option than Baines, but if you want to replace Billy with Baines I will let you.
lolol  :wanker:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Polledreng on December 30, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
Would like to see...
Howard
Coleman   Jags     Distin      Baines
Fellaini
Bilya          Osman            Pienaar
Cahill
Beckford
(Presuming that was Cahill's last game before going away.) I on't expect to see anything close to it.
Sure Cahill will play for us... so I've put him in...... Looks great  - hope  Jags and Osman recovers in time...... Our right side doesn't look strong on the defence but could be great on the attack ....  3-1 us with goals from beck - billy and cahill
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on December 30, 2010, 01:42:37 PM
Dont think Jags will be fit . Shorty said him and Ossie never even travelled to WHU so I'm thinking he won't be ready  , It's Cahill's last game before he goes

Howard

Neville
Hibbo or Johnny H
Disty
Baines

Coleman
Felli
Arteta
Pienaar

Cahill
Anichebe

..................

Thats the team I think he'll start with but I'd rather Jack Rodwell played instead of Mikel .. having said that , most times I think a player should be rested they go on and have a blinder ... and Mikel sure owes us one !
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on December 30, 2010, 06:55:06 PM
Well, I hold out hope, but we hardly inspire against teams we're well equipped to beat. Reckon it'll be another draw.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: johnj on December 30, 2010, 07:20:25 PM
howard
nev jags distin baines
coleman arteta felli pienaar
cahill
beckford

that's what i want to see
This but would put Osman in instead of Arteta, he is too off-form and this is not the game he will find it.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2010, 08:12:25 PM
presuming cahill has already gone i think the team will be quite adventurous for moysey
 
--------------------howard---------------------------
neville----jagielka------distin--------bainesy
coleman---arteta-----felliaini------peinaar
-----------anichebe---beckford(cahill)-----------

we should win on paper yet im still thinking a possible draw the way we are dropping points left right and centre

should be 3 1  beckford anichebe pienaaar
i think 2 2   beckford anichebe
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on December 30, 2010, 08:13:14 PM
Cahill is available ,hope he plays behind Beckford or Anichebe . Yak looks like he's going and Saha .........who knows. :bonk:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blob on December 31, 2010, 01:15:33 AM
nailed on bore draw
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on December 31, 2010, 02:13:46 AM
Howard
Neville Jags Distin Baines
Coleman Arteta Feliani Pienaar
Cahill
Anichebe

I'll go for a 1-2 with Cahill and Anichebe scoring for us and Jones for them.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on December 31, 2010, 08:03:03 PM
cahills last game for a month, devastated
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: wigster on December 31, 2010, 11:32:52 PM
im sure cahill will start behind victor tomorrow. hopefully jags come through as dont fancy tony against stoke's height
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: marky v on December 31, 2010, 11:53:21 PM
im sure cahill will start behind victor tomorrow. hopefully jags come through as dont fancy tony against stoke's height

totally agree hibbert would be lying on the shower floor after Jones ripped him to bits, he's the week link in the team when he plays and becomes a target for the opposition if Jags or Johnny doesn't make it you would have to go with Duffy or Rodwell for presence alone
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 31, 2010, 11:58:38 PM
Some heads need to roll, this form isn't good enough no matter what the excuses.

I'd go with:

          Howard
Coleman Jags Distin Baines
Bilya Fellaini Osman Peinaar
            Cahill
         Anichebe
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: marky v on December 31, 2010, 11:59:08 PM
think most have the team nailed on its just a wait on CB's being fit or not and Anichebe will prob start in place of Rodwell,

this is the sort of game that will be a definite last on MOTD 
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 12:19:38 AM
Some heads need to roll, this form isn't good enough no matter what the excuses.

I'd go with:

          Howard
Coleman Jags Distin Baines
Bilya Fellaini Osman Peinaar
            Cahill
         Anichebe

I'd be massively in favour of this team.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: april on January 01, 2011, 12:43:07 AM
"this is the sort of game that will be a definite last on MOTD"

Yeah, an Everton game.

Moyes has now said he may use the same starting 11 as at West Ham. Christ. A draw then.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: april on January 01, 2011, 12:44:09 AM
Some heads need to roll, this form isn't good enough no matter what the excuses.

I'd go with:

          Howard
Coleman Jags Distin Baines
Bilya Fellaini Osman Peinaar
            Cahill
         Anichebe

That looks minter.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: taffytoffee on January 01, 2011, 03:52:59 AM
vic has to start up front hes been the most effective of the strikers, i know hes only played the 1 game up front on his own against city but until he got himself sent off i thought he played really well, if moyes goes with timmy up front hes well and truely lost the plot.
Arteta and neville on the bench,they have been shocking, beckford on for vic around 60mins hopefully before he tires and gets sent off again

coleman    jags    distin    baines

billy    rodwell        felli      pienaar

                   timmy

                      vic
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Craig_1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:18:55 AM
Can't wait for this!!! First and maybe last game of the season I'll be able to go to, unless the Birmingham game is re-scheduled for mid-week.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 07:02:36 PM
Lets hope he grows a pair and drops the imposter that Arteta has become
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: steven cardiffblue on January 01, 2011, 07:26:15 PM
I have a feeling we will surely spank someone one of these days....probably not today mind  ha

I would like to see bily given a go....but same again I imagine. Maybe Saha /Big Vic for rodwell....
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on January 01, 2011, 08:04:02 PM
 Have fosters been released yet?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 01, 2011, 08:08:48 PM
Team news just in: Everton XI to face Stoke: Howard, Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Coleman, Arteta, Fellaini, Pienaar, Cahill, Saha.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Thom on January 01, 2011, 08:09:10 PM
Team: Howard, Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Coleman, Arteta, Fellaini, Pienaar, Cahill, Saha.

Subs: Mucha, Bilyaletdinov, Rodwell, Osman, Hibbert, Anichebe, Beckford.

Surprised that Moyes has started Coleman instead of Vic, but he was one of our better players against West Ham so it's only fair for him to start.

No Yakubu on the bench too. Looks like he's offski then.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 01, 2011, 08:09:33 PM
Bench looks like this: Mucha, Hibbert, Bilyaletdinov, Rodwell, Osman, Anichebe, Beckford.

No Yak.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gash on January 01, 2011, 08:10:35 PM
Writing on the wall for Yak I think.

Saha better get his bloody finger out today.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: kunal32 on January 01, 2011, 08:10:50 PM
Team news just in: Everton XI to face Stoke: Howard, Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Coleman, Arteta, Fellaini, Pienaar, Cahill, Saha.

Subs: Mucha, Bilyaletdinov, Rodwell, Osman, Hibbert, Anichebe, Beckford.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 01, 2011, 08:11:07 PM
bye bye yAK ::( Saha :(
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 01, 2011, 08:13:41 PM
If Saha scores today I'll streak at the Spurs game.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 08:14:59 PM
Nice to see Arteta and Saha getting their place no matter what again :headbang:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: wigster on January 01, 2011, 08:15:55 PM
If Saha scores today I'll streak at the Spurs game.


haha
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 01, 2011, 08:17:14 PM
is everyone forgetting that the last time saha played he was very good? (vs man city)
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: kunal32 on January 01, 2011, 08:17:32 PM
Looks likes the Yaks a gonner. Just remains to be seen how much we'll get for him, can't be anywhere near to what West Ham bid for him back in the summer.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 01, 2011, 08:20:44 PM
is everyone forgetting that the last time saha played he was very good? (vs man city)

He came on as a sub with 10 minutes to go.. and hardly set the world alight.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 01, 2011, 08:26:35 PM
If the lad proves us wrong then nice one. Take more than a ten minute cameo against city though.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on January 01, 2011, 08:29:38 PM
If the lad proves us wrong then nice one. Take more than a ten minute cameo against city though.
this.it's not like he changed the game or made his own substantial mark against city to balance previous dismal performances this season
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 08:32:43 PM
howard

      dustbin jags jonny
coleman  mikel  pienaar felli billy
      vic   becks

lets go for it for once in 9 years.

and yes baines isnt in the squad as despite his abilty going forward, its a hue myth he is a good defender. Plus I want us to attack and play in the other teams half just once under moyes. Billy in theory is a better attacking option than Baines, but if you want to replace Billy with Baines I will let you.



Eddie fucking Howe ?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 01, 2011, 08:34:17 PM
He came on as a sub with 10 minutes to go.. and hardly set the world alight.
what he did do was hold the ball up very very well and take pressure of the defence
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 01, 2011, 08:35:59 PM
what he did do was hold the ball up very very well and take pressure of the defence

For 10 whole minutes.... Whilst Citeh threw everyone forward looking for an equaliser.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 01, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
For 10 whole minutes.... Whilst Citeh threw everyone forward looking for an equaliser.
and most of the time saha was up againest toure and kompany and still did it

i though it was a slap in the face to him that after his best performance of the season cahill starts ahead of him and then yak comes off the bench before him
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 01, 2011, 08:48:03 PM
and most of the time saha was up againest toure and kompany and still did it

i though it was a slap in the face to him that after his best performance of the season cahill starts ahead of him and then yak comes off the bench before him

Christ. You really don't get it do you?

10 minutes doesn't constitute a performance.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 01, 2011, 08:50:35 PM
Christ. You really don't get it do you?

10 minutes doesn't constitute a performance.

well actually it does because he was fantastic when coming on and showed signs of improvement on his behalf

glad he is in and hoping he plays well and not like the rubbish he has done for nearly all of the season


and i didnt say anything about a gun performance

what i said was he came on and did very well which he did
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 08:52:00 PM
We're down to 9 men before a balls kicked.

Saha and Arteta are ghosts of football past

 :'(
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Danny on January 01, 2011, 08:52:38 PM
Christ. You really don't get it do you?

10 minutes doesn't constitute a performance.

If someone comes on and scores 2 goals to turn a game on its head in 10 minutes does it still not count? You can say it's not any indication of how he'd play over 90 minutes but it's unfair to dismiss it altogether because it was a decent cameo.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 01, 2011, 08:56:14 PM
If someone comes on and scores 2 goals to turn a game on its head in 10 minutes does it still not count? You can say it's not any indication of how he'd play over 90 minutes but it's unfair to dismiss it altogether because it was a decent cameo.

I'm talking about the case in point.

He came on for 10 minutes and held the ball up relatively well, but being that city were throwing everyone forward he was hardly under massive pressure to do so.

He did what was required and expected, that's all.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 09:06:03 PM

 Kick in the belly on Saha, corner of the box - deffo- pen.





Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 09:14:28 PM

 Ooh, shoulda' been 1-0, flick on by Jones to Fuller, waltzes past Distin, snatches low shot just past the post.




Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on January 01, 2011, 09:15:57 PM
I see Arteta hasnt turned up again
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: slothzen on January 01, 2011, 09:18:47 PM
I see Arteta hasnt turned up again
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 09:21:16 PM

 We have control of the play, Stoke using hoofball. Our let down, no-one upfront as a spearpoint.





Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blargins on January 01, 2011, 09:22:27 PM
Falling asleep here.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:23:05 PM
Bollocks.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: slothzen on January 01, 2011, 09:23:11 PM
whatever.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 01, 2011, 09:23:22 PM
1-0 jones
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:23:34 PM
here we go....
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gash on January 01, 2011, 09:23:39 PM
1-0 Jones. FFS.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: biffmalibu on January 01, 2011, 09:23:53 PM
He should be in a blue shirt.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:24:01 PM
Headed goal from about 15 yards out after some good work down the left.

Crap.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blob on January 01, 2011, 09:24:06 PM
no surprise there then

the mighty stoke take the lead    :hmph:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on January 01, 2011, 09:24:18 PM
Falling asleep here.
Did you wake up yet?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:24:46 PM
They have their tails up now.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:25:13 PM
see what were made of now.. stokes defence isnt the best
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 09:25:43 PM
Just Fuck Off Everton
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blargins on January 01, 2011, 09:25:51 PM
Did you wake up yet?

Stream died when it came back we are 1-0 down. Still snoozy though.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: bedfordtoffee on January 01, 2011, 09:26:13 PM
Same old bollox
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Youngy09 on January 01, 2011, 09:26:50 PM
Neville is a waste of a shirt!!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 09:27:04 PM
 Bloody good goal. Hoofed ball, Jones head on to the left wing. Etherington rapes both Nevill & Coleman - great cross to the centre of the area - Jones rises with a boss header - Baby-got-back Howard, no-chance.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 01, 2011, 09:27:15 PM
tim eats those for fucking breakfest usually
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Alex on January 01, 2011, 09:27:58 PM
Shit, just woke up, apart from the goal how have we been?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:28:20 PM
thing is  he shoudnt of got the cross in... stoke are there for the takin if we ATTACK
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Blue Balls on January 01, 2011, 09:28:34 PM
Phil needs to go back to basics, wats he thinkn diving in at this level. Arteta's heads not in it again, no suprise really
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 09:28:39 PM
 Shoulda' been 1-1. Boss cross from Baines. Cahill back stick unmarked - tries to head it itnto the corner the cross came from - headed weakly too wide.




Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 01, 2011, 09:30:01 PM
Getting bullied here.

Fucking kick the horrible cunts back!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 09:30:22 PM
why oh why is our least prolific striker playing?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
fuckinel ref not a pen that? atleast
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:32:44 PM
cant beat a wall AGAIN
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 09:33:18 PM
That was guaranteed to hit the wall - why is he still taking set pieces?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:33:26 PM
Why is it even a question any more about who should be taking our free kicks in those positions? Arteta hasn't put a ball over a wall for months.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gash on January 01, 2011, 09:33:42 PM
fuckinel ref not a pen that? atleast

It was outside the box.

Terrible free kick from Arteta.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: slothzen on January 01, 2011, 09:33:51 PM
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blargins on January 01, 2011, 09:34:00 PM
fuckinel ref not a pen that? atleast

Had he been fouled inside the box, then yes.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 01, 2011, 09:34:22 PM
Fuck off Arteta you shit twat.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
close tho.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 09:35:19 PM
Fuck off arteta, 75k a week to take shit corners and freekicks, and nothing else.  Like a latterday Glenn Hoddle
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: brap2 on January 01, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
how long gone? might try and get a stream up.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 09:35:55 PM
 Jesus! Distin nearly made it 2-0 with a bullet of a back pass.






Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:36:13 PM
were sooo fuckin slow  i hate it, why we never fuckin quick! ever
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:37:01 PM
how long gone? might try and get a stream up.

37 minutes, mate.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 09:37:44 PM
were sooo fuckin slow  i hate it, why we never fuckin quick! ever

half time arteta off - victor on and play two up top.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:38:16 PM
Mikel can't stay on after this performance.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:38:50 PM
your kiddin like moyes, wil do that so early on
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:39:43 PM
I know. 70th minute. As usual.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 09:39:54 PM
Mikel can't stay on after this performance.

Who you kidding?  He's undroppable.  Wonder if that was in his OTT contract too?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 09:40:23 PM
I feel pity for Arteta he's playing that poorly.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 01, 2011, 09:40:36 PM
Fuck off arteta, 75k a week to take shit corners and freekicks, and nothing else.  Like a latterday Glenn Hoddle

Oh shut the F up fool.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 09:40:50 PM
 Soft arse Ronnie Goodlass bemoaning the referee - 1-0 has got nothing to do with the ref'.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:42:57 PM
show some fuckin urgency everton
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 09:45:07 PM
show some fuckin urgency everton

I doubt the team will receive this
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:45:36 PM
you dont say lad...
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:46:00 PM
I am sick of Neville's awful and unimaginative passing. Also, Distin is now taking it upon himself to run at the opposition too, in addition to being our only decent player for the last month.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
arteta and saha are no-shows again!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
Fuck me that was close! :(
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Paul. on January 01, 2011, 09:47:10 PM
on a brighter note, the teams around us are also losing.. including them...... at home.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:47:11 PM
More like that please.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:47:22 PM
im sick of us being so slow, in our approach so frustrating everton its unbeleivable
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 01, 2011, 09:47:31 PM
oh my fucking god pienaar was inches away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 09:48:35 PM
I wish we'd run at defences more often and take more speculative shots. If you never try you never score.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:48:57 PM
out luck tho mate.. theres definetly goals in this for us if we can show some urgency
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 01, 2011, 09:49:10 PM
Same old story.

On top for the majority of the half, sloppy goal, show fuck all in front of goal.

This season has been shite.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 01, 2011, 09:49:28 PM
Yea but think about it we don't have offensive players in our side those sort of players cost money
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gash on January 01, 2011, 09:49:46 PM
Story of the season so far. Plenty posession but nothing in the final 3rd, Stoke score with about their only chance of the half.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:50:49 PM
no mate fuller - should of scored. and its our luck only we can step it up second half
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Blue Balls on January 01, 2011, 09:50:55 PM
Tim must have got the earlier flight to Oz, havent seen him today. would love to see Arteta back out on the flank winning set pieces which he us to do for fun with rodwell in the centre. Though in fairness to Coleman he's one of the few who looks dangerous when he gets the ball to feet
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Thom on January 01, 2011, 09:51:15 PM
Same story as always. Getting sick and tired of seeing it, and saying it.

Cannot believe that Neville dived in for their goal... come to think of that, Jones shouldn't have been left unmarked for both his headers either, so it was a host of errors once again on our behalf.

Arteta should definitely be taken off. Stick Anichebe up with Saha and drop Cahill into midfield with Fellaini to give us some more battling ability in those areas. Can't see it happening though.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 09:51:26 PM
on a brighter note, the teams around us are also losing.. including them...... at home.

oh thank fucking jesus in heaven with his mate allah

theres always fucking one who is more worried about the score of certain team
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 01, 2011, 09:51:57 PM
tbf we have shown plenty in the final 3rd could of scored on a couple of occasions should of had a penalty etc

come on lads

good work to saha for pienaars effort tho
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 09:52:09 PM
This season has been shite.

Understatement of 2011 lol
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: bedfordtoffee on January 01, 2011, 09:52:12 PM
I wish this season would end, we are going nowhere fast...it is so painful.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:53:48 PM
were all p**** of as per, 45 minutes to change our attitudes!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 09:53:56 PM
poor showing bar a few good chances - Stoke will probably sit on 1-0 until 80 mins when we'll put them under some pressure with no outcome.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 01, 2011, 09:54:05 PM
Arteta contributing absolutely nothing again, the only thing I'm confident of him being able to do is score a pen .it's almost like he aims for the wall from his free kicks. Would love to see Beckford given a full 2nd half
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Paul. on January 01, 2011, 09:54:38 PM
oh thank fucking jesus in heaven with his mate allah

theres always fucking one who is more worried about the score of certain team

erm, no. i'm just not a fuckin' saddo who always see the bad things. muppet.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on January 01, 2011, 09:55:31 PM
I see Arteta hasnt turned up again

When will the honeymoon end?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
philly - agree there you mean when moyes, will think of making a sub. in the fuckin 88th min more like
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 09:55:53 PM
I wish we'd run at defences more often and take more speculative shots. If you never try you never score.

Something I have constantly and always said about us.  We don't fucking attack defenders head on!! 

We attack the wings like machines but we don't go ploughing through the middle when we have people like Pienaar, Arteta who can dribble with the ball, then lay in Saha or Cahill to fire one home.  Their back 2 are big lads, Cahill skips past Ryan play a ball into Saha who gives it a little knock you either get it, you don't or you get chopped down.

We can't rely on flinging the ball into the box and hoping Cahill gets his head onto it so much!

 
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
erm, no. i'm just not a fuckin' saddo who always see the bad things. muppet.

nah yer just a saddo whose obsessed with fucking liverpool nugget
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 01, 2011, 09:56:21 PM
A good performance but not clinical again!  Arteta and Saha are playing better than they have been. Neville has been very, very poor and fellaini has been below par.  Too many crosses with no one there. Bilya is the sort of player who would be in the box for those.  He or anichebe on early second half please!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 09:57:28 PM
i think we're probably going to just have to put up with Arteta being shit. Moyes wont drop him but personally I dont think starting him every game knowing he's off form is doing tha lad any favours.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Paul. on January 01, 2011, 10:00:02 PM
nah yer just a saddo whose obsessed with fucking liverpool nugget
tell you what, look back through my posts. see how many times i mention liverpool.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 10:00:55 PM
ffs, please don't hijack a match day post with another pointless argument!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 10:01:57 PM
The amount of times we have put balls right across the 6 yard area in the last 3 games, for nobody to be following it it is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:02:02 PM
means nothing when you're getting beat

Allows for a bit of hope going into the next 45.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 01, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
ffs, please don't hijack a match day post with another pointless argument!

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:03:01 PM
 I tell yer' what -- this half is bleedin' important -- you're slidin' into the mire, blues.





Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 10:03:08 PM
tell you what, look back through my posts. see how many times i mention liverpool.

well twice in this thread and I really cant be arsed cyber stalking yer posts on here fella

youre not the only one here guilty of what the redshite are doing fever its just a pet hate

I forgive you  

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:03:10 PM
No subs...
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Meak on January 01, 2011, 10:03:15 PM
Well I just turned the game on a few min before half time and I've seen Distin blast the ball back past Howard, Fellaini misjudge a simple cross by miles, a great cross in the box by coleman where it seemed our players wanted to avoid touching the ball and someone on the right of defense absolutely ruin a simple short pass....

so how else has the first half gone?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 10:03:38 PM
Shocking, no changes by Moyes!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Danny on January 01, 2011, 10:03:51 PM
Arteta seems to be too scared to hold onto the ball these days, he used to hold onto it till the last second and either rip someone, win a freekick or have lured the guy so far out of position that he's made space.

Now he just passes it the second he gets the ball, it's pretty sad to see. Also for the record I don't think we should have had a pen.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 10:04:01 PM
No subs...

You really expected a sub ?

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:04:31 PM
far to early for moyes to change it- you know better!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:04:31 PM
Well I just turned the game on a few min before half time and I've seen Distin blast the ball back past Howard, Fellaini misjudge a simple cross by miles, a great cross in the box by coleman where it seemed our players wanted to avoid touching the ball and someone on the right of defense absolutely ruin a simple short pass....

so how else has the first half gone?


Apart from them blips, we've been playing like Barca.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:05:35 PM
Arteta down... but he's back up now!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:06:08 PM
come on blues pick it up!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 10:06:20 PM
Naughty tackle that

Might wake him fucking up now (arteta)
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 10:07:07 PM
He should have gone off there!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 10:07:38 PM
come on blues pick it up!
:snigger:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 01, 2011, 10:07:54 PM
How is Whitehead still on the pitch?!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:08:18 PM
That was quite possibly the worst free kick set up I have ever seen in my life!


Baines, Pienaar and Arteta standing by the ball.  Pienaar runs over and Baines lofts it in.  Even a blind dog could see they would do that!


Show's exactly what they are doing in training when they should be practising shooting, like Pienaar should be with that effort!!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: slothzen on January 01, 2011, 10:09:15 PM
officials been terrible.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 10:09:37 PM
Only watched the second half, so far, the refereeing has been dogshit
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:10:37 PM
It's Andre. Can't expect much else.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blob on January 01, 2011, 10:10:53 PM
pretty little triangles but getting absolutely fucking nowhere

could be a long year
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on January 01, 2011, 10:10:56 PM
Why aren't we twatting them? Stoke are a very poor football team
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:11:41 PM
because we cant score
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:12:11 PM
Christ lads, that was amatuer.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 10:12:31 PM
We are clueless in the final 1/3rd
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:13:52 PM

 Somebody had better find their scoring-boots pretty damn quick -- Scunthorpe could be Moyes' last game.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:14:38 PM
utter bollox - he wont be sacked
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on January 01, 2011, 10:15:36 PM
shouldn't that be a red card?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:15:58 PM
If Arteta touches another set piece I'm gonna punch myself in the face.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:16:16 PM
arteta cant hold his own piss
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:16:20 PM
utter bollox - he wont be sacked

 Who said anything about a sacking.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 01, 2011, 10:16:30 PM
Seriously, what is up with Arteta! 
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gash on January 01, 2011, 10:17:00 PM
Another candidate for worst set piece of the season.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 10:17:18 PM
Get Senor Overrated off FFS!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:17:29 PM
i dont think hel walk neither
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on January 01, 2011, 10:17:39 PM
Good attacking substitution.

BY STOKE
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 01, 2011, 10:18:05 PM
How can Arteta lack confidence with a wife like that?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:18:07 PM
I don't think this is a play him into form again situation. He's getting worse and worse.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on January 01, 2011, 10:18:12 PM
What the fuck happened to the Arteta that beat players for fun? and could take an amazing set piece? :headbang:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blob on January 01, 2011, 10:19:17 PM
How can Arteta lack confidence with a wife like that?

 lolol

cheered me up a bit   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:19:32 PM
How can Arteta lack confidence with a wife like that?


 Best quote of the afternoon.


 lolol
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:19:43 PM
this referee is an utter fuckin prick
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fynci on January 01, 2011, 10:19:57 PM
How Stoke have 11 on the pitch is pathetic... that being said, our attacking play has been equally as pathetic. Arteta has been utter dogshit for weeks now, why is he on the pitch?!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 10:20:03 PM
Mariner is horseshit!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: biffmalibu on January 01, 2011, 10:20:17 PM
I rarely complain about the refs, but Mariner is fucking shit.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on January 01, 2011, 10:20:35 PM
This has been a terrible performance.

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:20:44 PM
Anichebe is coming on!!!!!!!!

Only 63 minutes or so into the game when he comes on!! 
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:21:05 PM
heres victor now.. no beckford again fuck sake moyes you stubborn cunt
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Amata on January 01, 2011, 10:21:19 PM
Osman coming on too?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 10:21:23 PM
Why dont we just play like yard dogs seen as mariner gives fuck all
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on January 01, 2011, 10:22:44 PM
Stoke deserve to win this. They played an attacking 4 4 2 and tried to score. We didn't
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:22:58 PM
we are- and victor on means wel hoof it more - great
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Blue Balls on January 01, 2011, 10:23:32 PM
Maybe looks like we should have cashed in on Arteta when we had a chance, spending the money on a top striker. Especially when we have someone like Rodwell warming the bench. He's not going to improve from there.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Amata on January 01, 2011, 10:24:09 PM
Greame Sharp doesnt seem to agree with Moyes' subs.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 10:24:20 PM
Exactly the substitions asked for, hope it works.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:24:28 PM
Fucking hell Osman look fired up then!!

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:24:45 PM
still one up front- AGAIN
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 01, 2011, 10:25:06 PM
Surely Radio City have it wrong.... I'm assuming Osman will play on the right, Cahill to the middle, and Anichebe up front with Saha.....
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:25:13 PM
Anichebe will at least run at people.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:25:34 PM
there not saying that tho.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on January 01, 2011, 10:25:37 PM
I'm sick of Moyes now.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:25:43 PM
 Brilliant communication. Sir Neville dragged off, passes armband to Snake Arteta, who's also then dragged off.

 Moyes the time has come to say it - You are a nob.

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blob on January 01, 2011, 10:25:56 PM
seems that moyes has opened his eyes, at last

generally very poor again, but i reckon distin just gets better and better. even trying to get involved at the pointed end.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 01, 2011, 10:26:08 PM
Fucking woe
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:26:31 PM
GAME OVER fuck of kenwright you horrible cunt fuck of with your shitty pathetic board
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on January 01, 2011, 10:26:41 PM
We could go down you know.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:26:41 PM
For fuck sake!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: toffeeglas on January 01, 2011, 10:26:43 PM
oh shit
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:26:45 PM
Fuck me.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 10:26:46 PM
Just fuck off
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blob on January 01, 2011, 10:26:49 PM
nice own goal   :headbang:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Amata on January 01, 2011, 10:26:59 PM
Can we get Beckford on now. We need 2 goals
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on January 01, 2011, 10:27:02 PM
Calamity Jags strikes again
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
That's a foul, fuck you Marriner, you're a joke.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Blue Balls on January 01, 2011, 10:27:13 PM
Good Finish Jags!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: DannyR on January 01, 2011, 10:27:30 PM
fuck this shit.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 01, 2011, 10:28:07 PM
Jags should play up front, with Hibbert.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:28:18 PM
GAME OVER fuck of kenwright you horrible cunt fuck of with your shitty pathetic board


 Behave yourself -- this is Einstein Moyes crock of shite.


Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 10:28:40 PM
Sunday League defending and the worst strikers in the league = relegation form
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on January 01, 2011, 10:28:46 PM
We got what we deserved from this game.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Blue Balls on January 01, 2011, 10:28:49 PM
Jags should play up front, with Hibbert.

 :clap:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on January 01, 2011, 10:29:21 PM
Jags should play up front, with Hibbert.

I think our defenders have scored more own goals than our strikers have scored goals in the league, its fucking disgarceful.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:29:34 PM
yer but hes still got no money to strengthin - HIS  crock of shit
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on January 01, 2011, 10:29:49 PM
Why won't he play 2 fucking strikers? what is he afraid of the stupid ginger cunt.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:29:51 PM
We are crap.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tasslehoff on January 01, 2011, 10:30:18 PM
Fuck off switching this crap off, roll on next year
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 10:30:31 PM
Thanks for another great xmas Everton.  Fucking rubbish
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:31:24 PM
xmas went last week. but were still shit its embarrising
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Amata on January 01, 2011, 10:31:31 PM
Jesus f***ing christ
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
That was shocking defending. Almost 3-0.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: steve81 on January 01, 2011, 10:31:48 PM
how is moyes not in trouble hodgsonand hughes and grant are in similar positions
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Thom on January 01, 2011, 10:31:59 PM
Utterly hopeless. Good to see that changes were made but it's the same, boring, negative, shite formation.

Absolutely had it with Moyes, as well as Kenwright, now. Was a Moyes fan before this season, but he's been utterly garbage with 95% of this squad this season.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blob on January 01, 2011, 10:32:02 PM
i can only see them getting another

stoke fucking city

how pathetic are we 
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Connavar on January 01, 2011, 10:32:06 PM
FFS get Beckford on!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:32:21 PM
yer but hes still got no money to strengthin - HIS  crock of shit


 Matty seriously -- it just should have been 3-0  -- David Moyes is not very good.



Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 01, 2011, 10:32:55 PM
Not a knee jerk and i have defended him up to know but even I am starting to think Moyes time is up.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Amata on January 01, 2011, 10:32:59 PM
Finally Beckford coming on.....Probably with instructions to score 3 in 15 mins
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on January 01, 2011, 10:33:32 PM
yer but hes still got no money to strengthin - HIS  crock of shit

Hes starting with his best striker (statistically and visually) on the bench.
And brings on Osman and that lug Anchovy to come on and change the game.

Rodders and Beckford would have changed this game not those to shithouses.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on January 01, 2011, 10:33:41 PM

 Matty seriously -- it just should have been 3-0  -- David Moyes is not very good.





Not arsed, Kenwright out, now!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 10:33:53 PM
More annoying than the result will be Moyes post match comments.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on January 01, 2011, 10:33:58 PM
I don't want Moyes sacked.

But I get the feeling he is too secure. He knows he won't get sacked and we've become complacent. No pressure to perform.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:34:28 PM
yearh i know were shit
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
i want kenwright out and answers.. why were the fuckin scruffs of the premier league
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: everton-4-ever on January 01, 2011, 10:35:34 PM
moyes has to be blamed

for to long people have made excuses

moyes out

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 01, 2011, 10:36:37 PM
This is a total board issue in my opnion what Moyes has to work with simply is not good enough. Only tactis and strategy can get you so far. It's the quality of the players that count.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on January 01, 2011, 10:37:08 PM
Not a knee jerk and i have defended him up to know but even I am starting to think Moyes time is up.

Well done son!
Hes like Steve Mclaren. Fields shite, tactically inept. Millitant cnut putting his ego before our results!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:37:30 PM
His tactics and strategy have been lacking too.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blargins on January 01, 2011, 10:37:33 PM
This is a total board issue in my opnion what Moyes has to work with simply is not good enough. Only tactis and strategy can get you so far. It's the quality of the players that count.

But we have the best squad in years.

Moyes is inept. Fact.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Bally on January 01, 2011, 10:38:09 PM
what the fuck was moyes waiting for fucking ridiculous whats hwe expecting Beckford to do in 12 minutes
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 10:38:12 PM
Not sure what to do now. It still seems like it's the players' fault but Moyes hasn't done enough, I'm getting tired of these games, something has to change.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:38:18 PM
agreed with fern - the board are a disgrace    kenwright out
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:38:31 PM
This is a total board issue in my opnion what Moyes has to work with simply is not good enough. Only tactis and strategy can get you so far. It's the quality of the players that count.


 But Kenwright does not wear the tracky' at Finch Farm.


Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on January 01, 2011, 10:38:50 PM
This is a total board issue in my opnion what Moyes has to work with simply is not good enough. Only tactis and strategy can get you so far. It's the quality of the players that count.
Correct, but the usual types here will blame Moyes and not the likes of Arteta because he used to play well.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Seaforth Blue on January 01, 2011, 10:38:55 PM
Ive been Moysies biggest supporter, but now, even i'm at the end of my tether with him. The man has totally lost the plot and i am geniunely scared of us dropping.  :titanic:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blob on January 01, 2011, 10:39:48 PM
the really stupid thing is that if beckford did stick 3 in then some people would applaud his subs.

i haven't defended him before and i won't be starting now

fucking tripe
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: everton-4-ever on January 01, 2011, 10:40:01 PM
This is a total board issue in my opnion what Moyes has to work with simply is not good enough. Only tactis and strategy can get you so far. It's the quality of the players that count.

bollocks fern

kenwrong doesnt tell moyes when its time to make the subs and what players to swap

moyes is a joke
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:40:42 PM
no matter moyes or not in charge, the board would do the same, so the new manager so to say would have the same problems. the board have to fuck of there an utter utter disgrace
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 01, 2011, 10:41:17 PM
And I get the sense the players know better players are needed and that's one of the reasons Pienaar will leave - not just about the cash but there's no future direction for the club.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:42:27 PM
ok so al you moyes haters, sack him and get.... exactly nobody would want to come. and with an inept board like ours who can blame them
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: everton-4-ever on January 01, 2011, 10:42:34 PM
the ONLY defense people use for Kenwright is that he employed Moyes

therefore this is ALL his fault

suppose i can buy that si

somethings gota give and we know it wont be kenwright
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 01, 2011, 10:42:34 PM
The only players that can have a bit of pride this season are Baines, Cahill and Howard.

Coleman and Distin have done well in patches too. But the rest? Not good enough. The whole club needs a shake.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:42:51 PM
the ONLY defense people use for Kenwright is that he employed Moyes

therefore this is ALL his fault


 Kenwright's only fault is - he thinks he can keep his 'corner-shop' afloat.

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on January 01, 2011, 10:43:05 PM
Hes starting with his best striker (statistically and visually) on the bench.
And brings on Osman and that lug Anchovy to come on and change the game.

Rodders and Beckford would have changed this game not those to shithouses.

FFs talk a bit of sense .. Beckford couldnt hit a cows arse with a banjo and Rodwell is a defensive midfielder , their 2 goals are down to Jags who everyone , me included , was praying he'd play
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on January 01, 2011, 10:43:52 PM
This notion that there is another manager out there who will do better with those clowns out there is absurd
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Amata on January 01, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
Infostrada Sports on Twitter "Phil Jagielka has scored six own goals in the Premier League. Only Richard Dunne (8) and Jamie Carragher (7) have scored more own goals in the PL era."
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:45:23 PM
Right we all know Moyes has got it wrong again in terms of our attacking mentality.... but what he will say post match will be completely right.

We can not finish for shit!  Saha is dire, isn't he on something insane like £50k?! Yak is a lazy fuck!  Beckford, just give him a fucking chance, he can't do anything in the last 12 minutes!!!

We created chances once again today but it's just shit in the final 3rd.  But like I say Moyes has to take the blame but we need a clinical finisher!

10 goals at both home and away so far this season!!!!

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:45:34 PM
exactly sharp attack. we have to stick with moyes, and answers have to come from kenwrong .the fuckin dickhead i hate his lies.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: e.f.c on January 01, 2011, 10:46:14 PM
some points;
1. Jagielka has now scored more own goals than Saha and Yak have combined at the other end of th epitch.
2. What is the point in taking off a striker (lazy he may be) when we need to score twice?
3. Has Beckford done something to upset Moyes? He came on after 89 1/2 minutes against West Ham and came on when 2 down today. At least he grafts and gets chances which is more than Saha has mustered this season.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Connavar on January 01, 2011, 10:46:19 PM
Is this ANOTHER game without a single shot on goal?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: biffmalibu on January 01, 2011, 10:46:26 PM
God this is like the 90s, but at least we had a terrible squad those days so you didnt expect anything better.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 10:46:37 PM
Well, this has been terrible.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 01, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
You cant use kenwright as the reason for the team being shit this season.  He is responsible for our long term problems but not for how we are faring in the league. That is the players and moyes fault.  The players are not performing and moyes is blind to the problems.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 10:47:01 PM
Everyone is to blame, these players, other than Baines, have been shit today and most of the season, yes part of it is Moyes' fault, part is obviously Kenwright's fault, but part is the players' fault as well.

Some atrocious performances this season, they shouldn't still be playing (Moyes' fault), but Arteta should not have been this shit, for this long. Same with Saha, Jags, Heitinga.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:47:12 PM
we play tottenham before the cup game. - oh great
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: everton-4-ever on January 01, 2011, 10:47:32 PM
This notion that there is another manager out there who will do better with those clowns out there is absurd

sharpy your right m8

but the sad reality is even moyes is taking us backwards at an alarming rate

when mat etherington gets man of the match of players like arteta pienaar ect it shows how shit we are
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blargins on January 01, 2011, 10:48:41 PM
ok so al you moyes haters, sack him and get.... exactly nobody would want to come. and with an inept board like ours who can blame them

For £65k a week, many would want to become manager of Everton.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:49:04 PM
Stoke

1 shot on target
3 shots off target
1 corner

Everton

2 shots on target
6 shots off target
5 corners


Says it fucking all doesn't it really!!!!  The stats don't lie!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:49:19 PM
nobody better
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Connavar on January 01, 2011, 10:49:30 PM
Spurs is a week on Wednesday isn't it? This is fucking awful. Trailing 2-0 and we've offered fuck all in the final 3rd in the last 15 mins. Something has to give.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on January 01, 2011, 10:49:35 PM
For 65k a week, many would want to become manager of Everton.


 Totally agree.


Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Brownie on January 01, 2011, 10:49:39 PM
I hope someone assassinates Kenwright at the next home game. I have never called for anyone to go before but I have lost patience. Fucking atrocious
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on January 01, 2011, 10:49:47 PM
And the shite score.

And it was offside

And Bolton should of had a pen.

And we can't score against Stoke  lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 10:50:12 PM
why are we trying to walk it in???
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blob on January 01, 2011, 10:50:24 PM
difficult to see how beckford could make a difference

has he had a kick yet?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 10:50:57 PM
liverpool have just won aswell. we always seem to go one level further than them.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: e.f.c on January 01, 2011, 10:51:48 PM
i wouldn't sack Moyes but i wish he would take a chance and change the set up. Maybe with Cahill going off for the Asia cup he wil play 2 up front? I won't hold my breath...
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Connavar on January 01, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
Who gives a flying fuck about Liverpool?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Connavar on January 01, 2011, 10:53:32 PM
Fucking disgusting.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 01, 2011, 10:53:34 PM
i wouldn't sack Moyes but i wish he would take a chance and change the set up. Maybe with Cahill going off for the Asia cup he wil play 2 up front? I won't hold my breath...


Don't even mention that!  Yak and Saha up front together.... fuck me at least we would win a BAFTA for best comedy performance!!!


Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on January 01, 2011, 10:53:37 PM
But guess what! NOBODY!!! will stand up and say "Kenwright out" because we are fucking shitbags, fucking joke of a set of fans, we will speak up when we go down  :headbang:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tasslehoff on January 01, 2011, 10:54:18 PM
Ah well can't win them all. football has its ups and downs
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 01, 2011, 10:54:33 PM
First away defeat in 9 games. On the face of it, it doesn't sound that bad. It just highlights how much we desperately need a goalscorer to step up to the plate.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on January 01, 2011, 10:55:12 PM
Who gives a flying fuck about Liverpool?

a fucking men
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 01, 2011, 10:55:33 PM
You wait and see get rid of Moyes some manager will come in do well to start with then  it will jsut be the same problem later on. Lesser players a other would leave and no investment. You need to change the root of the problem and that's definitley a funding issue.

Be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 01, 2011, 10:56:57 PM
But guess what! NOBODY!!! will stand up and say "Kenwright out" because we are fucking shitbags, fucking joke of a set of fans, we will speak up when we go down  :headbang:

Why don't you start it then?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 10:57:03 PM
Who gives a flying fuck about Liverpool?

Exactly.

Fuck that was poor, no idea where to go from here, Cahill gone for a month.

We'll probably beat Spurs now just to through everything into wack.

If Saha starts again I want Moyes out, 24 games without a goal is unacceptable. No idea why Anichebe or Beckford don't start now.

I'm not even mad, I'm just confused, like I said, no idea what to do now.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 10:57:51 PM
I hope to God that no-one wastes there time making a ratings thread for that shower today.

Its times like this when i wish we had a Bellamy-esq player who would come out into the media and tell it how it is rather than our usual player who comes out and arse-licks.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Danny on January 01, 2011, 10:58:29 PM
Teams need freshining up it's a footballing fact, this has been coming for a few years now and spending nothing in the summer was the breaking point. It's getting desperate now.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on January 01, 2011, 10:58:58 PM
You wait and see get rid of Moyes some manager will come in do well to start with then  it will jsut be the same problem later on. Lesser players a other would leave and no investment. You need to change the root of the problem and that's definitley a funding issue.

Be careful what you wish for.

 :thumbsup: ...... Nail on head
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on January 01, 2011, 10:59:11 PM
Unlucky lads, well played again, just luck wasnt on our side this week..Onward and upward!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: bluemanx3 on January 01, 2011, 10:59:22 PM
But guess what! NOBODY!!! will stand up and say "Kenwright out" because we are fucking shitbags, fucking joke of a set of fans, we will speak up when we go down

why dont you stand up and say something
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 01, 2011, 10:59:36 PM
Exactly.

Fuck that was poor, no idea where to go from here, Cahill gone for a month.

We'll probably beat Spurs now just to through everything into wack.

If Saha starts again I want Moyes out, 24 games without a goal is unacceptable. No idea why Anichebe or Beckford don't start now.

I'm not even mad, I'm just confused, like I said, no idea what to do now.

ha we are not beating spurs mate, they may very well smash us
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gash on January 01, 2011, 11:00:39 PM
It's hard to see where we go from here. After the Man City game and the players reaction at the end I really thought we would kick on from there. A draw with West Ham and defeat to Stoke really is of massive concern.

Once again only a couple of players played well. I think that's the 3rd time Arteta has been hooked, a year ago that was unheard of. Worrying times.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 11:01:34 PM
ha we are not beating spurs mate, they may very well smash us

I doubt it, we very rarely get smashed by good teams anymore and our games against Spurs tend to be fairly entertaining.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: bedfordtoffee on January 01, 2011, 11:02:33 PM
Shower of shite... Something needs to be done or we are doomed to relegation..two points clear of crisis club West Ham.
 As for three own goals in three games..what the fuck...
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on January 01, 2011, 11:02:50 PM
On my own? i'm sure i'll get far  lolol anyway cya later lads i'm to vent. got some cats to punch ect.


btw we are 4 points from from bottom....... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: huck on January 01, 2011, 11:03:07 PM
Just glad I still have plenty of supplies to get over this. Cannot believe I was looking forward to a full day of football. Fuckers!

Drink till I am merry or asleep.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 11:03:13 PM
Would some sort of protest achieve anything other than relieving our frustrations?

If anyhting we would probably end up more pissed off as Blue Bill would do an interview with sky sports and spout his usual drivel about how he is looking for investment and how he's as upset as the fans. I'm not sure if he hasnt made it clear in the past but he's just a fan too - he used to be in the stands every week  :wanker:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 11:04:09 PM
It's hard to see where we go from here. After the Man City game and the players reaction at the end I really thought we would kick on from there. A draw with West Ham and defeat to Stoke really is of massive concern.

Once again only a couple of players played well. I think that's the 3rd time Arteta has been hooked, a year ago that was unheard of. Worrying times.

Arteta is a joke right now, shouldn't be in the squad let alone the first XI. Pathetic excuse for a footballer, I'm appalled that he's got a new contract, could've shipped his sorry ass to Man City and brought in a proper striker.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 01, 2011, 11:04:48 PM
Exactly.

Fuck that was poor, no idea where to go from here, Cahill gone for a month.

We'll probably beat Spurs now just to through everything into wack.

If Saha starts again I want Moyes out, 24 games without a goal is unacceptable. No idea why Anichebe or Beckford don't start now.

I'm not even mad, I'm just confused, like I said, no idea what to do now.

Same here.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 01, 2011, 11:05:30 PM
I doubt it, we very rarely get smashed by good teams anymore and our games against Spurs tend to be fairly entertaining.

But we're looking at a frightening spurs with Bale, Modric and Lennon on best form ever. We are in trouble in that game. We have nbot beatSpurs at hoime in years and years
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Ceega on January 01, 2011, 11:06:28 PM
In a way Moyes is a victim of his own progression of the club. That formation and style of play is excellent against teams of greater quality or in tight games in which a team will attack. This season we've struggled against teams in which the pressure has been on us to break them, and the team seem utterly incapable of doing so. Moyes' inability to change his tactics or even his style of play is perilous recidivism at best.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: marky v on January 01, 2011, 11:07:14 PM
this might push a few of the board into throwing a bit of money out for one player through panic alone,

Saha will never end his drought if he doesn't shoot, despise him in a blue shirt at the minute
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: SpankRock on January 01, 2011, 11:07:31 PM
Perhaps maybe the absence of Cahill will force us to play a different style and maybe with that improve, maybe. MAYBE.

What I don't understand is that Moyes cant be the only one who believes in the system, what is Round saying in his ear? Our coaches, the players, are they in agreement 4-5-1 is the way. Similarly with the substitutions, is Round giving an opinion, is he being listened to?

I am at a loss as to what is wrong and how its fixed  :eh:

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: ilikebrunettes on January 01, 2011, 11:08:42 PM
Moyes is laughable now
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on January 01, 2011, 11:09:37 PM
But guess what! NOBODY!!! will stand up and say "Kenwright out" because we are fucking shitbags, fucking joke of a set of fans, we will speak up when we go down

why dont you stand up and say something
Because people are too busy figuring out how to blame Moyes or Hibbert.

Bill is the farting elephant in the room making the place slowly but surely unbearable. But we don't talk of him. No. That would be "boring."
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: marky v on January 01, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
devoid of ideas on breaking teams down,

change to coaching staff needs to happen, think most people who are on the books on the coaching staff were defenders
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 01, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
In a way Moyes is a victim of his own progression of the club. That formation and style of play is excellent against teams of greater quality or in tight games in which a team will attack. This season we've struggled against teams in which the pressure has been on us to break them, and the team seem utterly incapable of doing so. Moyes' inability to change his tactics or even his style of play is perilous recidivism at best.

Just said exactly the same in Si's thread
What I don't understand is that Moyes cant be the only one who believes in the system, what is Round saying in his ear? Our coaches, the players, are they in agreement 4-5-1 is the way. Similarly with the substitutions, is Round giving an opinion, is he being listened to?

Round, I fear, is just a yes man
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: marky v on January 01, 2011, 11:14:08 PM
Because people are too busy figuring out how to blame Moyes or Hibbert.

Bill is the farting elephant in the room making the place slowly but surely unbearable. But we don't talk of him. No. That would be "boring."

Hibbert is shit though to be fair mate, if he didn't come through the youth system he would be hung,

back to today though,
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: everton-4-ever on January 01, 2011, 11:14:49 PM
devoid of ideas

devoid of passion

devoid of optimisim

devoid moyes
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 11:15:38 PM
Hibbert is shit though to be fair mate, if he didn't come through the youth system he would be hung,

back to today though,

Wind it in.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 01, 2011, 11:17:45 PM
Moyes is laughable now

Really. Ha I can't wait till Allardyce or Hodgson takes over, then you'd see what is laughable.

If Moyes goe to a club that invest like Spurs he would win trophies without a shadow of a doubt
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 01, 2011, 11:19:13 PM
One defeat in nine away games

One WIN in the last ten games

Which one means more in the league table?

Exactly, to turn those draws into wins, we need the extra cutting edge in the final 3rd that we're not getting at the moment. I'm by no means defending our team or manager.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: ilikebrunettes on January 01, 2011, 11:20:38 PM
Really. Ha I can't wait till Allardyce or Hodgson takes over, then you'd see what is laughable.

If Moyes goe to a club that invest like Spurs he would win trophies without a shadow of a doubt

Boring rubbish. Hodgson is above us in the league for a start.

You know.. their is other managers in world football other than Big Sam
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 01, 2011, 11:20:57 PM
What i want to know is what it will take for a kenwright out chant to start? What will it take for a moyes out chant? Which should come first?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: everton-4-ever on January 01, 2011, 11:21:37 PM
Really. Ha I can't wait till Allardyce or Hodgson takes over, then you'd see what is laughable.

If Moyes goe to a club that invest like Spurs he would win trophies without a shadow of a doubt

he wouldnt because his brand of football doesnt involve playing the best players available only his favourites

 and he would turn spurs from an entertaining and dynamic attacking team to a 1 up front pass it sidewards bore merchants
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 11:21:48 PM
What i want to know is what it will take for a kenwright out chant to start? What will it take for a moyes out chant? Which should come first?

The Moyes chant, guaranteed.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 11:23:38 PM
he wouldnt because his brand of football doesnt involve playing the best players available only his favourites

 and he would turn spurs from an entertaining and dynamic attacking team to a 1 up front pass it sidewards bore merchants

He is playing his best available players, but they're out of form.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: everton-4-ever on January 01, 2011, 11:25:13 PM
He is playing his best available players, but they're out of form.

maybe today historicaly not

hibbert cup final springs to mind !
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 11:28:31 PM
now.. moyes must stay till the end of the season,at the least. then we need answers from the clowns who run us.and why there even on our board.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on January 01, 2011, 11:28:41 PM
devoid of ideas

devoid of passion

devoid of optimisim

devoid moyes

Devoid of attackers
Devoid of the cash to buy them
Devoid of a squad big enough to cover for injured , suspended or out of form players
Devoid of the money to offer competitive contracts to players he wants to keep
Devoid of a boardroom  structure that will enable him to improve the squad when we look like we could start to break through the ceiling ... ie after the Cup Final or after our run of games in the second half of last season .

If this continues he won't be sacked ... Kenwright could not afford to sack him .. A job will come along and he'll walk , along with any hope we'll ever get of regaining our status ... He'll be snapped up and there are Chairmen out there who'd think it was their birthday and Christmas to have him .... and they'd give him a proper budget ..... Randy Lerner for starters
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 01, 2011, 11:29:08 PM
If we're getting loans in it needs to be done ASAP. If not we need to put together a side that will compete, although at the moment that is looking worryingly difficult.

There are some glaring issues though that we can hope if rectified can lead to better results.

1. Even if you are Saha's mum I don't know how you can argue for him to remain as the loan striker. IF people still want to play him at the very least he can't be the lone striker. Enough is enough, I can't understand Moyes if he starts with him again. It'll be as baffling as the Osman on the right issue.

2. We need to put some faith in other players as those on Moyes' good list aren't doing the job. It has to be time to let Billy have a crack, perhaps behind the striker as Cahill is off. At least we know he'd try shooting once in a while. I'd be giving serious consideration to Gueye, Beckford and Vaughan (if he isn't off) having more of a look in. At the very least you'd have some proper competition and some added pace wouldn't go amiss, plus I'd be amazed if they created less shots on goal than the current lot. In defence if Heitinga isn't off I honestly think he should be tried in a partnership with Distin. This isn't because of the own goal but Jags has been very iffy this season, Heitinga and Distin had a solid partnership for the second half of our season last year so why not resume that?

I can't see us getting more adventurous but can we give up on this idea that we have to play Neville to get a result yet? If we are going to be bold play Coleman with another attacking option in front of him (Anichebe, Billy...?). And with our lack of creativity in the middle I'd also think hard about giving Pienaar a go in there and playing someone else on the left (Osman, Billy, Anichebe, Gueye...). Unless we can muster up a winger on loan.

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 11:29:23 PM
maybe today historicaly not

hibbert cup final springs to mind !

If we're judging "historically" then you have to take the good with the bad. Historically he's a good manager, at the moment I have my doubts.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 11:30:45 PM
thats it , no more chang it all boils down to the shitty board for what, moyes has. sell to buy policy? great. fuck of kenrwright,woods,elstone your killin this club
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: everton-4-ever on January 01, 2011, 11:30:48 PM
Devoid of attackers
Devoid of the cash to buy them
Devoid of a squad big enough to cover for injured , suspended or out of form players
Devoid of the money to offer competitive contracts to players he wants to keep
Devoid of a boardroom  structure that will enable him to improve the squad when we look like we could start to break through the ceiling ... ie after the Cup Final or after our run of games in the second half of last season .

If this continues he won't be sacked ... Kenwright could not afford to sack him .. A job will come along and he'll walk , along with any hope we'll ever get of regaining our status ... He'll be snapped up and there are Chairmen out there who'd think it was their birthday and Christmas to have him .... and they'd give him a proper budget ..... Randy Lerner for starters


 he wont win anything anywhere he is his own problem his ego is his downfall
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 01, 2011, 11:34:21 PM

 he wont win anything anywhere he is his own problem his ego is his downfall

Naive statement. He could very well win things, it would be nice to see what he could do with some money but that will never happen.

Moyes is a problem right now, but many of our problems have been cause by a lack of investment. With proper investment we could've found out years ago that Moyes was incapable of pushing us forward, or that he was. Either way we'd be in a better spot now with a new manager more capable, or with a competent Mr. Moyes.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: philly on January 01, 2011, 11:35:02 PM
I think Kenwright should go first - we know he cant do any better than he is currently doing.

With Moyes we can only speculate becuase he's never had a decent budget.

Kenwright out and then Moyes can be judged fairly.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 01, 2011, 11:36:46 PM
well said mate, completely agree
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on January 01, 2011, 11:38:53 PM
What i want to know is what it will take for a kenwright out chant to start? What will it take for a moyes out chant? Which should come first?

If anyone starts a ' Moyes Out 'chant before anything is said to Kenwright then it just goes to show how fucking thick some people who dare to call themselves Everton Fans are ... Has Kenwright done anything positive for our club since Moyes arrived ?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 01, 2011, 11:52:30 PM
I actually agree nomorechang.  However, don,t be surprised when it happens. 
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 01, 2011, 11:57:05 PM
I think Kenwright should go first - we know he cant do any better than he is currently doing.

With Moyes we can only speculate becuase he's never had a decent budget.

Kenwright out and then Moyes can be judged fairly.

THIS!!! You're clearly a man that has a logocial approach to thought. There are too many people on here looking for what they think is the most obvious solution. Moyeshas acheived at this club and taken us to other heights but now its got to apoint he can no longer sustain any challenge with the investment he has had.

Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: ilikebrunettes on January 02, 2011, 12:01:55 AM
all over twitter and google that he's resigned.

Cant see it... would just be to perfect
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Tasslehoff on January 02, 2011, 12:07:32 AM
We aint going to get any money, so what's the point in whining. Lets get behind the lads, at the end of the day that's most productive way to have any sort of tangible influence on the game, be the 12th man again.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 02, 2011, 12:10:03 AM
Not all over my twitter!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: BlueWool on January 02, 2011, 12:12:25 AM
I can't think of any better confirmation that he hasn't resigned than it being all over Twitter that he has.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 02, 2011, 12:13:25 AM
Not that i would blame him.  Anyone would get pissed off knowing we need a striker but also knowing he has no chance of getting one.  I get the strong feeling he has been putting on a brave face with all this contract and transfer shit.  Am actually starting to think lescott was the start of all this.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 02, 2011, 12:18:59 AM
Not on google either. ILB wtf are you looking at
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: ilikebrunettes on January 02, 2011, 12:20:12 AM
type in moyes resgins on google... click on realtime
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 02, 2011, 12:23:39 AM
type in moyes resgins on google... click on realtime

If you say "gullible" really slowly it sounds like "banana".
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on January 02, 2011, 12:28:19 AM
all over twitter and google that he's resigned.

Cant see it... would just be to perfect

Dont be silly hes not going to give up 60 grand a yr for doing naff all.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: JoeHart on January 02, 2011, 12:34:45 AM
I think Kenwright should go first - we know he cant do any better than he is currently doing.

With Moyes we can only speculate becuase he's never had a decent budget.

Kenwright out and then Moyes can be judged fairly.

moyes is a poor manager. His tactical knowledge and ability are up there with the worst in the league.
He will never win anything, he is not a winner. Winners dont play it safe.
After 9 years, he still exists as a good manager in some of your minds based upon 'potential'.

 
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 02, 2011, 12:35:53 AM
It was a kopite who tweeted it initially and everyone jumped on it.

He then came back saying "Sorry for that incomplete tweet I actually meant to say.. Moyes has resigned himself to a bad day."

ILB in believing gossip & hearsay shocker.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: DanDan on January 02, 2011, 12:54:32 AM
if you believe it then you can still get 33/1 on Moyes going next on skybet
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on January 02, 2011, 02:36:51 AM
all over twitter and google that he's resigned.

Cant see it... would just be to perfect

You really are one of the saddest twats I've ever had the displeasure of acknowledging has the privilege of existing .  .
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: ilikebrunettes on January 02, 2011, 02:40:10 AM
You really are one of the saddest twats I've ever had the displeasure of acknowledging has the privilege of existing .  .

dont think there is any need for that.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Fern on January 02, 2011, 02:44:39 AM
dont think there is any need for that.

Yes there was.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: marky v on January 02, 2011, 03:24:08 AM
Wind it in.

Nope
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Verm on January 02, 2011, 03:25:24 AM
You really are one of the saddest twats I've ever had the displeasure of acknowledging has the privilege of existing .  .

Too far.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: ilikebrunettes on January 02, 2011, 03:25:26 AM
Yes there was.

dont see why your getting involved. Or are you upset that your hero is getting exposed for the sack of shit that he really is?
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 02, 2011, 03:27:16 AM
Just like Everton fans this.  Let's not start a campaign to get Kenwright out or even Moyes.  Nah, let's turn on each other.   :headbang:
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Verm on January 02, 2011, 03:27:57 AM
Just like Everton fans this.  Let's not start a campaign to get Kenwright out or even Moyes.  Nah, let's turn on each other.   :headbang:

we rnt kopites tho lid
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 02, 2011, 04:32:51 AM
Hope we are last on MOTD tonight!
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Gash on January 02, 2011, 04:47:29 AM
How is it 6 hours after the final whistle and new threads can't be started?

No that I've got anything to start like.
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on January 02, 2011, 04:56:58 AM
dont think there is any need for that.

I agree , there was no need for that .. It still doesn't stop me from disagreeing with everything you say , I'll apologise for that remark though
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: Azz on January 02, 2011, 05:06:23 AM
How is it 6 hours after the final whistle and new threads can't be started?

No that I've got anything to start like.


Server would get overloaded from too many 'Moyes out!' and 'Kenwright out' threads! :D
Title: Re: Stoke City Vs Everton
Post by: johnj on January 02, 2011, 05:48:03 PM
What i want to know is what it will take for a kenwright out chant to start? What will it take for a moyes out chant? Which should come first?
Should be Kenwright first. He has achieved nothing and has no money so should stand out of the way for ANY interested buyer. And I don't believe this "looking 24/7" for 1 second. We are destined for a player exodus and a new walker/smith era at best unless he steps aside.