Everton v Watford

[Mayor Farnum]

If the most successful manager in our history couldn't do it, why would bringing back Moyes be any different.
Howard Kendall had TWO further bites of the cherry after departing for Bilbao and couldn't get close to replicating the side he he had built first time around.
Never, ever go back!
Moyes got us out of a hole and stabilised us, but even in his best years here, he bottled it every time it mattered. Moyes is a steady Eddie, not a winner. He's a guy who will go to a team that is struggling, work hard, sort out the work ethic of the squad and make them hard to beat, but he hasn't got that X factor that makes a good manager a winning manager. If we're after a steady Eddie that will make us hard to beat, we might as well go and get Tony Pulis in, as he would do exactly the same things that Moyes does well.

If you’re operating on a Tony Pulis/David Moyes budget maybe you have no real choice.

[Everton Mint]

Kone might surprise us and be a decent goalscorer if he stays fit... played well when he came on.

[sootyjrw]

Something I noticed and yesterday it was glaring was we are trying to implement a passing style which is pass, take a touch, pass, then when one of our players tries a quick one touch pass, it is being read and picked out because we are expecting that player to take a touch first so not reading it properly, I noticed that Barry, Barkley and Coleman tried this and the player they were passing to was on their heels and the move broke down

Arsenal play a possession game but more suited to the Prem with intensity as has been said before Martinez is trying to bring a Barca style which is fine in Spain but is getting found out in the Prem, by the time the players receiving the pass take a touch the opposition are back in shape

[Azz]

Why do we never stop the cross?!

This is the 1st cross which led to their throw in.

Mirallas jogging back not getting tight, Coleman standing there 5 yard away with arms behind his back doesn't close the player down just sticks his leg out.

It's Holebas their left back on the overlap putting the ball in so you'd think Mirallas would be tracking.





This is the 2nd cross from which they score.

Mirallas once again jogging back, he actually slows to a stop even before Jurado puts the ball in. McCarthy should have gone to close down the cross not a Watford player near him and Coleman... what the hell is he doing?!

[charlatan]

Why do we never stop the cross?!

This is the 1st cross which led to their throw in.

Mirallas jogging back not getting tight, Coleman standing there 5 yard away with arms behind his back doesn't close the player down just sticks his leg out.

It's Holebas their left back on the overlap putting the ball in so you'd think Mirallas would be tracking.

Mirallas once again jogging back, he actually slows to a stop even before Jurado puts the ball in. McCarthy should have gone to close down the cross not a Watford player near him and Coleman... what the hell is he doing?!

Been my bug bear for years this.  This and our throw-ins where everyone stands watching not making any space, invariably leading to us throwing it straight back to the opposition

[KoemansNumberTens]

I do wonder why "we're not a selling club"
Our defence in recent times has been valued at around 90m and we can't fucking defend. McCarthy talked about at 25m and hes limited. Heard all sorts of daft numbers bandid about for Lukaku and barkley and they both have infinitely more bad games than good
Im not suggesting all of these or even any of these are bad players but what the fuck are we trying to achieve. Whats the point of hoarding the players who got us 11th on bigger and better contracts when clearly for whatever reason it's not working
Would it really get much worse if we swapped stones for some random plodding centre half rather than paid him God knows what to stay long term
Unless we make the champions league it's probably makes more sense to say we are a selling club. Have lower wage caps. Shift them out and try and make profit for a better future. Cut our cloth and try to pay for a new ground. Might take an awfully long while but we are just plodding without any sort of a plan. We are a million miles away from achieving anything on or off the pitch

[blue slug]

Thats the point, everyone in football values and rates a lot of our players highly which tells me that the problem lies in the tactics being employed

[Confucius]

You lot are all a little crazy.

Yes the first half wasn't great. But the 2nd half showed us more direct and the players actually started playing.

Martinez changed tactics and his subs worked too.

Everyone should stay calm and give it 10 games, if we playing the same at that point sack him. Our most creative players are all injured too. We don't have the finances to cope with that.

Watford attacked twice and scored twice. Our goalkeeper is always out of position and our full backs never make it hard for the opposition to get crosses in or to get crosses under duress. That's just poor defending and basic stuff.