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Man of the match

Mirallas
46 (83.6%)
Barkley
1 (1.8%)
No One
8 (14.5%)

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January 29, 2014, 08:42:58 PM
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Injury did effect the most important battles. Lukaku v Skrtel, Sturridge & Suarez v Jagielka & Distin.

No real excuse though.
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January 29, 2014, 08:49:51 PM
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There were a few players returning from injury (yes Lukaku didn't last long), but bar Coleman and Distin it WAS our 1st team. Perhaps Deulofeu would be in our strongest line up, but he hasn't started a league game yet has he?, so I don't think you can really include him in the first 11.

The RS were also missing Johnson, Enrique and Agger who are 1st choice. Maybe not Agger all of the time, but Johnson and Enrique definitely are 1st choice.

Oviedo has been a big part of the team for the last month and a bit, so even discounting Deulofeu (who if fit would have been brought on at some point) that's almost a third of our first team. Then with Jags, Pienaar and Barkley not match fit (although Barkley gave a really good account of himself considering) there's another third almost. And then we lose our main striker after 20 minutes.

We were miles away from our potential last night in resources, and unlike the Liverpool players who were missing, we lost the dynamism and the goals that have hurt teams in the big games so far this season.

You cant compare our injuries to theirs, ours have a massive impact on our squad, it was completely obvious to see this last night.

Imagine instead of Agger or Johnstone or Allen injured, they had Sturridge, Suarez and Gerrard out? Big difference.

We had little attacking nous bar Mirallas. He needed others around him to help create the threat.

That wasn't Everton last night, not the one Ive been watching all season.
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January 29, 2014, 09:12:41 PM
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I hear what you're saying fellow ski, but if Howard, Jagielka and Barry were missing, people could easily say those 3 were crucial absentees.
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January 29, 2014, 09:19:02 PM
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They were missing their first-team back four in Johnson, Agger. Sakho, and Enrique.

And the two players who most often sit in front of them in Lucas and Allen. They were their for the taking defensively and we couldn't take them.

We were weakened but that was due as much to the teams lack of preparedness as it was to injuries. Liverpool came ready to hassle us off the ball and win back possession in dangerous areas and we didn't have an answer. We've struggled all season when teams have pressed us and they did as good a job as any team has this year.

January 29, 2014, 10:21:42 PM
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Who has been combining for us for our goals in recent times? Who has been actually scoring those goals? Our team isnt like Liverpools, our chances come from intricate play and opening up small holes in the opponent. We havent got the personnel that have done that so well for us.

Its no surprise we couldnt do much against their back four, 2nd choice or otherwise, we didnt have the dynamism we have enjoyed these last few months.

Even at the back, Distin would have made a MASSIVE difference as he has the pace Jags and Alcaraz miss.

We were unlucky not to win the 3-3, we thoroughly deserved to get beat 4-0 last night. Thats some swing in performance without looking at reasons for it.
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January 29, 2014, 11:03:28 PM
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Oviedo has been a big part of the team for the last month and a bit, so even discounting Deulofeu (who if fit would have been brought on at some point) that's almost a third of our first team. Then with Jags, Pienaar and Barkley not match fit (although Barkley gave a really good account of himself considering) there's another third almost. And then we lose our main striker after 20 minutes.

We were miles away from our potential last night in resources, and unlike the Liverpool players who were missing, we lost the dynamism and the goals that have hurt teams in the big games so far this season.

You cant compare our injuries to theirs, ours have a massive impact on our squad, it was completely obvious to see this last night.

Imagine instead of Agger or Johnstone or Allen injured, they had Sturridge, Suarez and Gerrard out? Big difference.

We had little attacking nous bar Mirallas. He needed others around him to help create the threat.

That wasn't Everton last night, not the one Ive been watching all season.

                      Reading this has brighten my day up after feeling realy down in the dumps after the game last night.Thanks Mate  :thumbsup:


January 29, 2014, 11:29:29 PM
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Weve been doing the right things pretty much all season so weve just gotta put it down as an off day

Its just typical of us to have an off day against these though isn't it!

After the first 3 games of the season I'd say our only real off days were Crystal Palace, West Brom and last night

The Sunderland defeat was unlucky and we didnt particularly play bad against city, but it is the toughest fixture in the league

The injuries did us no favours at all, but the position and shape of the defence is what hurt us most last night. Playing a high defensive line caused 3 of the 4 goals. Also before the game Martinez said he was aware that they had scored all 3 in the Goodison derby from set pieces so it was particularly annoying to see we hadnt learned our lesson from that

Pienaar, Coleman, Barkley, Distin and Deulofeu should all be back fit soon and that will make a huge difference in ensuring an off day like last night doesn't happen again

We may have got carried away with how well we had done in the first half of the season. A top 7 finish in Martinez first season with us should be considered a success and I am expecting him to learn lessons from these off days and have us genuinely challenging for top 4 next season
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January 29, 2014, 11:34:11 PM
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Agreed SS. Shitty luck has to change sometime.

(You would think!)
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January 29, 2014, 11:37:01 PM
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West brom home and away, palace and last night all poor


Simply simply lovely

January 29, 2014, 11:51:58 PM
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We haven't played well since arsenal IMO

January 30, 2014, 12:00:15 AM
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We haven't played well since arsenal IMO

I agree that we haven't had a particularly strong performance in a while other than in the FA Cup.

Every team has to go through patches of bad form, and hopefully this will help give us a wake up call. With some players coming back from injury we should hopefully be able to bounce back from this and push on with our dip in form for the season behind us.

Maybe not, but I hope that is the case and we can finish the season strong whether or not we finish 4th.

January 30, 2014, 12:27:51 AM
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We haven't played well since arsenal IMO

Since Christmas we have looked a very tired team, is that when the injuries and the ability not to rotate the team kicked in?
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