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104 (61.9%)
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June 05, 2016, 12:09:59 AM
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Ross


Let's face it though RoKo is gonna be better than RoMa isn't he!



Leave my Ma out of this you!
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June 05, 2016, 12:14:54 AM
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i think this idea that he's in a constant state of rebuilding is being over played quiet a lot. Hes being given every penny back to spend on the team and they've all gone for top money. Last summer he only sold two players you'd consider first team regulars, which I'm sure a lot of teams do during any main window. 

Net spend of -£24 million over his two seasons compared to a net spend of +£26m under Poch and +£31m under Adkins. And yet the team has had their best two seasons in the Premier League era.

No one has done a better job than him over the last two years - except Ranieri and perhaps Pochettino.

June 05, 2016, 12:16:28 AM
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I think Koeman brings the best blend. He's not perfect, but neither was Pellegrini or De Boer or Emery. Each had their good points and their bad points.

With Koeman, we are getting stability. That's the first step that needs to be taken before progressing. He'll get us back to the upper echelons of the prem which is where we need to firstly be. The next year or two will be transition, but upwards (hopefully). Only the top, top managers have a consistent success rate, others seem to have their heydays, I think we are getting Koeman at the beginning of his. He is definitely upwardly mobile in his managerial career, and we now have a manager close to the finished article, as opposed to Martinez and Moyes who we got at the starting points of their careers.

Onwards and upwards. Start of something good I hope.
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June 05, 2016, 12:21:37 AM
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Net spend of -£24 million over his two seasons compared to a net spend of +£26m under Poch and +£31m under Adkins. And yet the team has had their best two seasons in the Premier League era.

No one has done a better job than him over the last two years - except Ranieri and perhaps Pochettino.


Yeah I thought I'd read that wrong about his net spend but he's spent over £100m in two years on a team he inherited from mid table. The least you'd expect is an improvement on positions after that.

I really wouldn't class him as the 2-3 best manager over the last two years though, he's won nothing or even threatened to come close to winning something.

He's also seemingly put the blocks on introducing young players from their academy into the squad, which doesn't bode well for here.
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June 05, 2016, 12:27:16 AM
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Macca77


Lad in my local just said Mata will be Koemans first signing, hes bladdered like and stinks of spew and piss but i believe him, he winked with his good eye

June 05, 2016, 12:27:33 AM
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Yeah I thought I'd read that wrong about his net spend but he's spent over £100m in two years on a team he inherited from mid table. The least you'd expect is an improvement on positions after that.

I really wouldn't class him as the 2-3 best manager over the last two years though, he's won nothing or even threatened to come close to winning something.

He's also seemingly put the blocks on introducing young players from their academy into the squad, which doesn't bode well for here.

He put the blocks on players who weren't up to it.

Unless you consciously want to have a quota for young players then that's how it's going to be (as it was under Moyes and Martinez).


June 05, 2016, 12:29:55 AM
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Lad in my local just said Mata will be Koemans first signing, hes bladdered like and stinks of spew and piss but i believe him, he winked with his good eye

Gotta love TheRam.

June 05, 2016, 12:31:07 AM
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I think hill nailed it there

Let's face facts, we need a substantial rebuild

Noone could walk into that side and be title contenders

Let koeman have a chance, he has success rebuilding and then see where we are
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June 05, 2016, 12:31:19 AM
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Lxxx


There will be some fume on here if De Boer replaces him at Southampton and they go on to finish above us.

June 05, 2016, 12:33:59 AM
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Ross


He put the blocks on players who weren't up to it.

Unless you consciously want to have a quota for young players then that's how it's going to be (as it was under Moyes and Martinez).

Isn't that the model they work on at Southampton? Academy players into the team young o develop them and then sell for a big profit. He's failed on the score.

Maybe that's why they're seeming not bothered about him going? Not like they've put up much of a fight to keep him.
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June 05, 2016, 12:34:44 AM
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Ram and a few others were raising understandable concerns in a reasonable way, and then Ross got involved and started chatting pyar shite as usual.
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June 05, 2016, 12:37:05 AM
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The Analog Kid


Ram and a few others were raising understandable concerns in a reasonable way, and then Ross got involved and started chatting pyar shite as usual.

Standard.

June 05, 2016, 12:37:19 AM
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Ross


Ram and a few others were raising understandable concerns in a reasonable way, and then Ross got involved and started chatting pyar shite as usual.

Always so nasty and personal with you.
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June 05, 2016, 12:40:08 AM
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I think where it comes to taking managers and players off other teams who are still under contract, basically we can't moan if it happens to us in the future. We will like, but I'm sure we'll all get a handy little memory block when it comes to remembering Koeman gate.
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June 05, 2016, 12:41:53 AM
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bacon sarnie


Always so nasty and personal with you.

Reads the Guardian mate.

Talking of which....."Should Koeman decide to succeed Martínez at Goodison Park, there is every chance he will be expected to work alongside a director of football. That appears likely to be Sevilla’s Monchi, who confirmed on Friday that he intends to leave the Europa League winners this summer.

“For about a month I noticed that something wasn’t right in my head,” he told SFC Radio. “I figured it was time to stop and make a change. My doubts then returned but late on Sunday I made ​​the decision [to leave]. Still, what I can say is that I won’t pay my release clause. I won’t leave Sevilla through the backdoor.”

Fucksakes.