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June 07, 2016, 03:15:43 AM
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indiantoffee1975


I suppose he didn't say similar stuff about Pochettino when he left to takeover Spurs or the raft of players that joined liverpool? Bitter fool, get over it, Southampton are and will always be a tiny club.
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June 07, 2016, 03:19:47 AM
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sam of the south


Southampton are a shitbag club, always have been.

In 1977/78 they had already won promotion heading into the last game of the season, a home game against 3rd placed Tottenham.

Tottenham needed a draw to go up with them, which would mean Brighton could not be promoted.

Southampton had an excellent record at The Dell, and had only failed to score at home once all season.

Them and Spurs played out a farcical 0-0 draw, at a walking pace, with no shots on goal.

When Lawrie McMenemy, the Southampton manager, was interviewed after the game he just gave a wry smile and said how happy they were to be promoted alongside a great club like Tottenham.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2016, 03:31:24 AM by sam of the south »
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June 07, 2016, 03:22:04 AM
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velimski


Saw Matt Le Tissier at a petrol station in Southampton last week. I was about to say "hi Matt" as I walked past him, but thankfully didn't because he'd have absolutely no idea who I am.


June 07, 2016, 03:45:01 AM
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He's right though - most Southampton fans know we are a bigger, more historical club but in terms of players/academy/facilities and stadiums there isnt much difference. He's not left Southampton to sign for us because 'it's Everton' he has signed as we have given him a significant payrise and the promise of a large investment both on and off the field. There is no way he'd be here if Moshiri wasnt our new owner.

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June 07, 2016, 03:58:25 AM
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Toddacelli


There's no way he was on that much is there, back in the 90s?

Probably not. Although the numerical answer is different with different data sir, I still expect an A* for the working out because the theory still holds true ;)
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June 07, 2016, 04:01:31 AM
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I have never had any problem with Southampton, and I'm not a big fan of the 'bigger club' debates. The way I see it, your club is your club. Everton is mine. Real Madrid are a bigger club than Everton, but I couldn't give a fuck about them cos they aren't us

Southampton fans should rightly be pleased with how well they have done on their return to the top flight. They seem to be a well run club, they now have a good squad and they do seem to develop youngsters well

Ronald Koeman has got them 7th and then 6th and at the same time he has had many of his best players sold and had to buy cheaper replacements. He has done well

So Everton want him as manager. And he wants to come. I could see why Southampton fans would be pissed off with it. On current form, Southampton are a better team. So why does Koeman want to come to Everton?

Historically we have achieved more. 9 leagues against their 0. 5 FA Cups to their 1. A European Cup Winners cup to their no European honours. More seasons in the top flight than any other team

Also we have a billionaire owner who is promising to spend hundreds of millions of pounds.

He's only got 1 year left on his contract so Koeman is ultimately in a good position to decide what he wants for his future

The academy is one reason I have seen Southampton fans mention as to why they might be a more attractive option. Evertons u21 side and u18 side both finished above Southamptons in this seasons leagues

I just don't get why there seems to be such animosity coming from their fans. We don't think that we are Abramovich's early Chelsea or anything. I'm fairly sure I would respect Ronald Koeman just fine if he decided to stay with them

A bigger history and an owner pledging lots of money seems a fine reason to me for someone to change their job
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June 07, 2016, 04:13:54 AM
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hill135


Here's Koeman's backroom team at Soton that he could well bring with him:

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/team/staff-profiles/

Sammy Lee though... no fuckin chance.

The question of staff is an interesting one.

Looks like his brother will come with him and he's apparently very able and well liked.

The fitness coach too and he can only be an improvement on whoever Martinez's men were.

But we also lost a first team coach, a goalkeeping coach and a chief scout. I doubt we'll fill those positions from Southampton because the guys who hold those positions weren't Koeman's men but appointed Les Reed (Sammy Lee included, thankfully).

But their goalkeeping coach is very well thought of and apparently has a big say in the set piece preparation - which they are good at and we aren't. He's also the England goalkeeping coach. Would be great if we could steal him as part of the deal.

« Last Edit: June 07, 2016, 04:14:46 AM by hill135 »

June 07, 2016, 04:16:47 AM
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MmmblueBernard


I have never had any problem with Southampton, and I'm not a big fan of the 'bigger club' debates. The way I see it, your club is your club. Everton is mine. Real Madrid are a bigger club than Everton, but I couldn't give a fuck about them cos they aren't us

Southampton fans should rightly be pleased with how well they have done on their return to the top flight. They seem to be a well run club, they now have a good squad and they do seem to develop youngsters well

Ronald Koeman has got them 7th and then 6th and at the same time he has had many of his best players sold and had to buy cheaper replacements. He has done well

So Everton want him as manager. And he wants to come. I could see why Southampton fans would be pissed off with it. On current form, Southampton are a better team. So why does Koeman want to come to Everton?

Historically we have achieved more. 9 leagues against their 0. 5 FA Cups to their 1. A European Cup Winners cup to their no European honours. More seasons in the top flight than any other team

Also we have a billionaire owner who is promising to spend hundreds of millions of pounds.

He's only got 1 year left on his contract so Koeman is ultimately in a good position to decide what he wants for his future

The academy is one reason I have seen Southampton fans mention as to why they might be a more attractive option. Evertons u21 side and u18 side both finished above Southamptons in this seasons leagues

I just don't get why there seems to be such animosity coming from their fans. We don't think that we are Abramovich's early Chelsea or anything. I'm fairly sure I would respect Ronald Koeman just fine if he decided to stay with them

A bigger history and an owner pledging lots of money seems a fine reason to me for someone to change their job

Yeah, but apart from that, Southampton are a much bigger club tho.  <sniggers>
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June 07, 2016, 04:28:53 AM
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Amata


I have never had any problem with Southampton, and I'm not a big fan of the 'bigger club' debates. The way I see it, your club is your club. Everton is mine. Real Madrid are a bigger club than Everton, but I couldn't give a fuck about them cos they aren't us

Southampton fans should rightly be pleased with how well they have done on their return to the top flight. They seem to be a well run club, they now have a good squad and they do seem to develop youngsters well

Ronald Koeman has got them 7th and then 6th and at the same time he has had many of his best players sold and had to buy cheaper replacements. He has done well

So Everton want him as manager. And he wants to come. I could see why Southampton fans would be pissed off with it. On current form, Southampton are a better team. So why does Koeman want to come to Everton?

Historically we have achieved more. 9 leagues against their 0. 5 FA Cups to their 1. A European Cup Winners cup to their no European honours. More seasons in the top flight than any other team

Also we have a billionaire owner who is promising to spend hundreds of millions of pounds.

He's only got 1 year left on his contract so Koeman is ultimately in a good position to decide what he wants for his future

The academy is one reason I have seen Southampton fans mention as to why they might be a more attractive option. Evertons u21 side and u18 side both finished above Southamptons in this seasons leagues

I just don't get why there seems to be such animosity coming from their fans. We don't think that we are Abramovich's early Chelsea or anything. I'm fairly sure I would respect Ronald Koeman just fine if he decided to stay with them

A bigger history and an owner pledging lots of money seems a fine reason to me for someone to change their job

Agree, apart from the history bit. I honestly dont think anyone in the football world cares about history anymore, there's no place for sentiment now as its become driven by greed.

Now its all about the present, the and the potential future.  Im sure if Watford/Palace etc offered him 7mill a year and 100 mill to spend with the promise of further investment and a new ground he would happily sign for them.

Also I dont think most of the Saints fans realise that we now have Moshiri running things and he has big plans, why would they as I wouldnt have a clue if this happened to another club, especially as its all been low key and not on Shiek Mansour/Abramovic levels. They probably think he's coming here, losing 2-3 best players and having to rebuild when he could have just stayed there and done that.

Another point of note is that he said he was seeing out his final year and he was rumoured to be after the Arsenal/Barca job, so for him to renege on his promise to go and join a club that isnt the highest level is pissing them off too and i think we are just on the end of the frustration. Maybe when they see how Moshiri appears to be doing things they will understand.

« Last Edit: June 07, 2016, 04:31:28 AM by Amata »
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June 07, 2016, 04:29:49 AM
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Macca77


Le Tiss and his saints pals need to grow a pair and get over it, shit happens, sulking about it just makes you look like a needy bellend

June 07, 2016, 04:34:02 AM
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Amata


Le Tiss and his saints pals need to grow a pair and get over it, shit happens, sulking about it just makes you look like a needy bellend

Agree but we dont do that do we (looks through Byram thread).

All fans, our own included need to stop doing it.
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June 07, 2016, 04:37:29 AM
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Trowel


The Mirror reckon it'll be confirmed tomorrow, with a "no poaching" clause (didn't Brendan sign one of those too?)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-poised-confirm-new-manager-8127187
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June 07, 2016, 04:47:04 AM
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Bluedylan


I fully understand why Soton and Le Tiss are annoyed. At the moment they are lashing out at us, but in reality their anger is towards their own board and owners for not having the ambition to build on what they've done.

We would be fuming if we'd just had our best ever Prem finish with a highly praised manager, and then he was poached by a bigger club that was languishing well below us in the table, two seasons in a row, and our fans would be giving it exactly the same 'he's going for the money' comments.
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June 07, 2016, 04:47:54 AM
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hill135


Think a no poaching clause is reasonable, mainly because I don't want us to sign any of their players except maybe Forster (which wouldn't happen).

That JWP mentioned as a possible target is shit and Southampton fans say as much. Has this reputation as this deadball specialist when really he just has a particular way of standing over and approaching the ball. His deliveries are alright, that's it.

June 07, 2016, 04:49:02 AM
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Duncs_a_legend

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I hate the 'bigger club' debates, kopites seem to have the most warped definition of 'big club'.....I don't think it's got much to do with history, I don't think great players want to sign for clubs because they won trophies years before they were even born.

I think a 'big club' is a club that is achieving things consistently over the past 10 years, league titles, European cups, etc.

I don't think we are that much of a bigger club than Southampton, probably edge it because they've only come back up the premiership in the past few years.

I think the main reasons Koeman is signing for us is because he's doubling his wage, and won't be forced to sell his best players.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2016, 04:50:18 AM by Duncs_a_legend »
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