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August 18, 2016, 01:45:20 AM
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Well, Rangers/Sevco/NewCO are back (whatever you want to call them) - do you see them challenging for the league championship and other cups this year?

Or will Celtic do the full domestic treble with Brendan  Rogers and also progress in the Champions League tonight (vs Hapeol - Israeli team) and further into the competition?

Can Celtic or Hibs with Neil Lennon run either team close in the league or domestic cups?

Are their any decent players in that league you would like to sign? (Jason Cummings - Hibs, Dembele/Kieran Tierney -Celtic etc)

Why is the SPFL so shit despite x2 massive teams playing in it, to the point where Mark Warburton is complaining that Rangers are having to offload players to Championship teams in the UK who pay higher money?

LEAGUE TABLE - Rangers top after 2 games
http://spfl.co.uk/premiership/table/

Is their anyone in the Scottish National Team you'd like at Everton?

Is the Behaviour at Football Act (Otherwise known as the 'secterian singing bill' or anti-irish bill by some Celtic/Hibs fans) fair?
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August 18, 2016, 02:11:14 AM
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Hope celtic get relegated

Haha, each to their own.

The new safe standing at Celtic Park is boss :D

August 18, 2016, 02:26:39 AM
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Leigh Griffiths just made it 2-0 Celtic in CL Qualifier :D


August 18, 2016, 02:32:50 AM
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Smashing free kick from Leigh Griffiths for his second goal

3-0 :D

August 18, 2016, 02:36:51 AM
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Good post @Gash

What I wills say I know 1 or 2 lads playing professionally who see Celtic as a great step up with the added perk of the Champions League. Very occasionally players like Nakumaura, Moravcik or Larrson or Kenny Miller for Rangers turn down huge money elsewhere at least until they are over 30 (Larsson) take the club to their hearts.

Its like Olympiakos/Panathanikos or Steua Bucharest have big histories with regular CL Football and crazy fans who travel far and wide but the league is wrapped up between 2 clubs, still doesn't deter from playing/supporting either club.

The SFA really need to help the national team and fans by kicking some life and money and sponsorship into the SPFL and Scottish Football - safe standing and revamps will be a start of that.

August 18, 2016, 02:38:19 AM
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God knows how they knocked out Olympiakos in the last round.

Hey - Dundalk could be in the CL Proper. Crazy world. They are playing Legia Warsaw.


August 18, 2016, 02:58:46 AM
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Hapeol get away goal ffs

Celtic 3-1 Hapoel

August 18, 2016, 03:00:24 AM
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August 18, 2016, 03:33:00 AM
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And there's another problem with Scottish football. Not that Celtic have lost this, far from it but clubs getting fucked in European qualifiers every year and not even getting to the main competition has absolutely ruined our co-efficiency.

Again, good point - that lack of coeffiency has deterred the big players from signing. As i said though, if your a Championship player with teams looking at you even from the EPL - IF Celtic are in the CL Group Stage I know for a fact young hungry players and their agents are attracted by Celtic.

Sometimes @Gash premier league clubs ruin players - look at Aiden McGeady (!) and Liam Miller (Man Utd) and the best example is Tony Watt.

August 18, 2016, 03:43:08 AM
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Good win for Celtic :D 5-2. Captains goal from Brownie :)

On another point of interest Alan Stubbs did an amazing job at Hibs and is now at Rotheram, if he continues like that especially in a EPL job, future candidate for Everton hot seat?

I can see Rangers over achieving this year and if Aberdeen had more money they could challenge as well.

August 18, 2016, 09:18:13 AM
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I think Stubbs left because he knew he'd failed to get them promoted and would be sacked very quickly if they'd had a bad start in the Championship, much easier to jump ship after a fantastic moment than be pushed a few months later.

So why did Neil Lennon take the job then?

August 18, 2016, 09:26:40 AM
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McGeady was never that good a player, looking good in the SPL massively clouds the judgement on him, he's pretty much looked completely out his depth since he came here. Liam Miller was never a Man Utd player and another who looked good in the SPL but struggled with the gulf in class. It was always a strange move that, saw the bright lights and left on a free only to become a journeyman which would suggest he wasn't good enough in the first place. Wasn't aware that Watt had played in the Premier League? He's dined out well on "that" goal but the fact he's back at Hearts would probably suggest he's Championship/League 1 standard at best.

It's all relevant though, it's a bit like a food chain, the Old Firm take young Scottish players then some of the Premier League clubs take the top Old Firm players but that's becoming few and far between these days. Scott Brown sums up the state of Scottish football, one of the top players there even though he's not very good and in his 30's now and never once been seriously linked with a big move.

No!

I don't think he did that well at Hibs, made a right mess of things a couple of times trying to get out the Championship, fair enough he won their first cup but the Premiership is where they need to be and he blew it twice.


Do you think Rogers was a good choice for Celtic? @Gash - some Celtic fans where considering Stubbs as an ex player who at managerial level punched above his weight and seemed eager and ambitious. Do you think anybody (other than Hearts who did it) could beat Rangers to Division 1 last year? I have friends who support Hibs and as the 'other' irish/socialist club I have a lot of time for them and their tradition/supporters but Stubbs did a difficult job well and is now at Rotheram ironically signing a few scourers and creating a plan for progress

As for Rogers - do you agree like Shankly wasn't fitted to Huddersfield or Van Gaal to Man Utd they where still good managers and Rogers will kick away his Liverpool Hoodoo and resemble Martin O'Neil in taking Celtic back to regular CL Group/2nd Stage campaigns and domestic trebles?

As for Rangers - where do they need improving? Can you see them having a fast rise?

Is it fair that a Old Firm ticket at Celtic Park is DOUBLE the price of a regular ticket this season?

August 18, 2016, 08:56:45 PM
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McGeady was never that good a player, looking good in the SPL massively clouds the judgement on him, he's pretty much looked completely out his depth since he came here. Liam Miller was never a Man Utd player and another who looked good in the SPL but struggled with the gulf in class. It was always a strange move that, saw the bright lights and left on a free only to become a journeyman which would suggest he wasn't good enough in the first place. Wasn't aware that Watt had played in the Premier League? He's dined out well on "that" goal but the fact he's back at Hearts would probably suggest he's Championship/League 1 standard at best.

It's all relevant though, it's a bit like a food chain, the Old Firm take young Scottish players then some of the Premier League clubs take the top Old Firm players but that's becoming few and far between these days. Scott Brown sums up the state of Scottish football, one of the top players there even though he's not very good and in his 30's now and never once been seriously linked with a big move.

No!

I don't think he did that well at Hibs, made a right mess of things a couple of times trying to get out the Championship, fair enough he won their first cup but the Premiership is where they need to be and he blew it twice.


Who was the Everton Academy player who went on to play for Forrest - Fox? Liam? He got ruined at Celtic too. Strachan signed him.

August 19, 2016, 02:42:33 AM
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Because that's his level.

Managed in the Champions League, beat top teams, yet Scottish Championship is his level?

(Yes he was shit at Bolton but they where in administration)

August 19, 2016, 03:14:02 AM
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@Thomas

Can I ask why you have such an interest in Scottish football??

As @Gash has already pointed out (as if it needed to be) it's a fucking awful standard of football.

Went out with a Scottish girl for a while, had mates who took me a few Celtic games, checked my family history (Irish), enjoy going Celtic games and made a few mates doing it. Carried on supporting them along with Everton.

I Know plenty of lads from Irish Toffees who support both.