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May 30, 2019, 07:07:36 PM
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Escla

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I think we will get a good stadium but I can live without the architect (who will lead a team, he ain't doing this solo is he) being pawed over and doing all kinds of PR shite

Just give us the drawings you have clearly already done and let us build it lad

It doesn’t work like that though, the architect needs to be involved throughout the construction period, signing off working drawings at every stage up to completion certificate. Anyway, any PR that associates one of the worlds leading Stadium designers with Everton FC. Can’t be a bad thing can it ?


May 30, 2019, 07:19:08 PM
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I think we will get a good stadium but I can live without the architect (who will lead a team, he ain't doing this solo is he) being pawed over and doing all kinds of PR shite

Just give us the drawings you have clearly already done and let us build it lad
..................Meis is one of the leading architects in his field and if he's promoting himself it also reflects well on the club ,in my opinion.
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May 30, 2019, 07:23:11 PM
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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-architect-dan-meis-reveals-16351815

“One of the things our practice is particularly interested in is that we are seeing the cost of these buildings really becoming prohibitive,”

“Owners, developers and clubs are trying to make them more than just stadiums by adding a lot of things, by adding a lot of premium VIP, but that is driving the cost of the buildings up. “Particularly in Europe we've now seen the stadiums starting to cost £1bn in some cases and we feel it is really going to be prohibitive for some clubs to service that kind of investment.”

“How do you really respect the history of how a building grows over time and then try to put the things into it that really are going to drive the revenues without making the building so big that the typical club cannot afford to do it.”

Is this trying to dampen our expectations?

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May 30, 2019, 07:38:50 PM
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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-architect-dan-meis-reveals-16351815

“One of the things our practice is particularly interested in is that we are seeing the cost of these buildings really becoming prohibitive,”

“Owners, developers and clubs are trying to make them more than just stadiums by adding a lot of things, by adding a lot of premium VIP, but that is driving the cost of the buildings up. “Particularly in Europe we've now seen the stadiums starting to cost £1bn in some cases and we feel it is really going to be prohibitive for some clubs to service that kind of investment.”

“How do you really respect the history of how a building grows over time and then try to put the things into it that really are going to drive the revenues without making the building so big that the typical club cannot afford to do it.”

Is this trying to dampen our expectations?


As @blue1948 pointed out, i think some peoples expectations need dampening a bit.
This is going to be better than the horror show that was Kirkby yes. But it's not going to be very top tier. But it doesn't need to be.

I'm hoping at least King's dock level though.

May 30, 2019, 08:06:38 PM
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As @blue1948 pointed out, i think some peoples expectations need dampening a bit.
This is going to be better than the horror show that was Kirkby yes. But it's not going to be very top tier. But it doesn't need to be.

I'm hoping at least King's dock level though.

And for sure it will be a level or two above Anfield !

May 30, 2019, 08:13:26 PM
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And for sure it will be a level or two above Anfield !

And Goodison - which is what matters most.


May 30, 2019, 08:20:31 PM
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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-architect-dan-meis-reveals-16351815

“One of the things our practice is particularly interested in is that we are seeing the cost of these buildings really becoming prohibitive,”

“Owners, developers and clubs are trying to make them more than just stadiums by adding a lot of things, by adding a lot of premium VIP, but that is driving the cost of the buildings up. “Particularly in Europe we've now seen the stadiums starting to cost £1bn in some cases and we feel it is really going to be prohibitive for some clubs to service that kind of investment.”

“How do you really respect the history of how a building grows over time and then try to put the things into it that really are going to drive the revenues without making the building so big that the typical club cannot afford to do it.”

Is this trying to dampen our expectations?


....................I think he's just being realistic . The more space given to corporate areas ,the less space for 'ordinary' spectators ,therefore a decrease ( however small ) in capacity. We need the corporate income but Meis has already said the footprint is tight and we've reined in our hopes of a 60,000 capacity.  I don't expect to see a full tier of boxes like some other stadia.
Given the proximity to the city ,I'd like to see more non-matchday use of the facilities though. Assuming I live long enough to see it ,it would be nice to pitch up  at BMD and have a meal overlooking the grass or the Mersey.
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May 30, 2019, 11:01:16 PM
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It doesn't work like that though, the architect needs to be involved throughout the construction period, signing off working drawings at every stage up to completion certificate. Anyway, any PR that associates one of the worlds leading Stadium designers with Everton FC. Can't be a bad thing can it ?
It feels a bit staged to be honest.

I have no doubt he will deliver a stadium we will love, but it's just all a bit... cringe. Not this specific thing as he's being interviewed about the stadiums he is involved in, but he fucking loves Twitter (as his "likes" from last year when he was staying in the titanic will testify to) and has a bit of an ego.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think I'd like him if I met him, but that I respect his work. So I'd like to see more of his work and less of him.

June 13, 2019, 02:07:33 AM
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Stadium Director, Colin Chong
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T"he Club’s New Stadium team has been engaging with various groups, including supporters, in recent weeks by holding feedback sessions on our proposed new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock and the Goodison Legacy Project.

I’ve had the privilege of being part of most of these workshops and the level of ideas, feedback and support for the project has been both impressive and hugely useful.

The sessions were attended by a wide range of groups including the Everton Disabled Supporters' Association (EDSA), Everton Heritage Society and the Everton Shareholders’ Association, as well as representatives from many of our Supporters’ Clubs and the Fans’Forum. These sessions are the latest in a series of engagement activities that have been ongoing since our initial fan surveys and the subsequent announcement of our ‘Key Principles’ for a new stadium for Everton Football Club.

Ahead of the second stage public consultation next month, the sessions allowed us to explore in a focus-group environment, matters including the matchday experience at the new stadium and topics such as rail seating/safe standing, transport, heritage and accessibility.

Our project architect, Dan Meis, has consistently spoken about how a new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock should reflect the impressive location of the UNESCO World Heritage Site, while contributing to the maritime and dockland surroundings. There is a lot ofmaterial and architectural inspiration in that area to consider and that will allow us to look to create something unique yet respectful of its environment.

At the moment, Bramley-Moore Dock is not open to the public so it’s perhaps difficult to appreciate the site’s rich heritage. Through our proposed stadium design, the Club’s plan is to recognise the dock’s unique attributes, accentuating and preserving them and making them accessible for everyone to enjoy. 

We have also been continuing our engagement with local residents and businesses in Liverpool 4 on the Goodison Legacy Project. From recent focus groups and drop-in sessions, residents have given us an insight into what they feel their area needs and how the project to ensure a lasting legacy when we leave Goodison will help the local community.

This project will ultimately be overseen by a Trust Board and, working with local residents, we are committed to building on the life-changing and life-saving work of our official charity Everton in the Community and the £10million already spent in developingthe Goodison Campus – the Everton Free School & Football College, The People’s Hub, The Blue Base and The People’s Place - by providing health amenities, education facilities, community space, enterprise hubs and homes.

No images of the proposed stadium design were included at any of the recent engagement sessions. However, the latest design concepts are on track to be released as part of the second stage consultation in July. At this stage, every supporter – and, indeed, every resident of the city region – will be encouraged to either attend the consultation or give their feedback online to have their say on our plans.

This second stage of the formal consultation will be running from 26 July to 25 August with times and locations to be announced soon.

Following this stage of the process we aim to submit our planning applications before the end of the year, as outlined when we published our project timescale in 2018. 

Finally, thank you to everyone who has taken part in the engagement sessions. The level of support we have had throughout this process has been exceptional. We look forward to hearing from you again and gathering your feedback when we reveal the proposed designs for Bramley-Moore Dock and our initial ideas for the Goodison Legacy Project later this summer. 

June 13, 2019, 05:20:20 AM
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Colin Chong though man. Haha.

June 16, 2019, 12:59:20 PM
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Colin Chong though man. Haha.

All sounds a bit tongue in Cheech to me...
    

I'm only here for the cladding/Bramley Moore Dock updates

June 16, 2019, 08:42:22 PM
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Get your contactless cards at the ready as it's gonna be a cashless stadium the same as Spurs

June 16, 2019, 09:06:36 PM
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Get your contactless cards at the ready as it's gonna be a cashless stadium the same as Spurs
Our everyday life will be contactless  soon.

June 16, 2019, 10:07:32 PM
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Escla

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Can’t remember the last time I used cash ? People down here give you a filthy look if you offer cash, they have to open the till and give you change and all that stuff, too much hassle compared to just letting you tap your card and go.

June 16, 2019, 10:09:02 PM
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Our everyday life will be contactless  soon.
Bit like going to  watch Middlesborough
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