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February 19, 2017, 04:55:36 PM
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I'm just wondering, if it was 1500 foot deep, 457 metres, that’s 270 feet short of a mile in depth. I would think the project would be a nonstarter for landfill. I'm just trying to gauge the size of the task ahead and if at all it would be feasible as we'd all be getting excited over nothing. Obviously it's not that deep. It wouldn't be getting discussed even at this early stage. Not unless there was some way to bridge the pitch and build the stadium straddling the dock walls. I'm just looking at options. If it's all approved, in the long run it's going to be interesting to see the process. Any Marine engineers out there?
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February 19, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
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I have no knowledge art all about this but there's no way it's 1500 foot deep!



Obviously not. I'm fairly sure we're talking in depths of 50 -100 feet and under. I'm not sure of the draught of the boats that used it. I was hoping someone would come up with some of the dock specifications regarding depth. There's nothing I can find that gives any real indication of landfill volume.  :)
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March 01, 2017, 04:02:35 AM
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Could we be on the verge of a free stadium a la Man City?



Means the club would have much less say on what was being put up there. I hope not. :-\
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March 19, 2017, 06:04:18 PM
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Does Joe realise he's still the major? He uses twitter like some Z-list ex-Hollyoaks waitress.



I didn't realise he was in the Army. ;)
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March 19, 2017, 07:01:50 PM
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Nice work stitching me up with a quick quote ;)



You should put that on the things you hate thread. @blargins is an absolute ace at it. He gets me everytime  :snigger:
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March 19, 2017, 07:56:16 PM
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Hmm. Interesting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rumours that as well as #BramleyMoore we have also concluded a deal for #NelsonDock#EFC pic.twitter.com/UkIAJMtZ8E</p>&mdash; Brother Smith (@brothersmith76) March 19, 2017
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March 20, 2017, 05:00:45 PM
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I'm not one to give Liverpool supporters stick, but if this does come together, which I've never questioned or had any doubt it will. For my one and only  example. In Liverpool at Christmas, one of my elder sister's sons in law, a really dumb red. Proceeded to give me stick about the Derby result. All I said to him was. "Yeah, but I'm happy we're going in the right direction". "What do you reckon on the new Everton Waterfront stadium"? The unexpected pleasure I got as I watched him squirm and struggle to control his envy in front of 20 or 30 people was a beautiful sight. Believe me, you long suffering blues up there on Merseyside, Farhad Moshiri is handing you a huge WMD. Enjoy the carnage.;D
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March 21, 2017, 05:23:58 PM
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The club, from what I can see, are actively promoting a new fanbase with the vastly reduced rate season tickets for under 16's. As the Everton product increases revenue streams through social media and sponsorship it will increase the fan base. Fundamental points I admit but all aimed at the common goal to increase ground level fan support. An extra ten thousand seats will not be adequate if the club is successful with their current policies of increasing the fanbase. Many new grounds have a three tier seating arrangement of which some areas are left vacant for lesser games. I think everton will follow this template.
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March 21, 2017, 06:06:57 PM
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The rumours and points of reference to the Stadium keep gathering pace. This is definitely happening.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Duncan Ferguson on Everton new stadium Bramley Moore docks #bramleymoore #efc #everton pic.twitter.com/QjYpue74Ju</p>&mdash; YNFA (@ynfafootball) March 21, 2017
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March 24, 2017, 06:33:33 AM
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So! What happened?
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March 24, 2017, 05:05:46 PM
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I'd like to know who actually owns the land to build the stadium on? Everyone seems to be missing the point of ownership. Thanks for renting it to us for 200 years. Sorry! I'm being pedantic. COYB. :)
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March 24, 2017, 05:19:03 PM
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So, Peel own the actual land
We have agreed heads of terms to buy that off them. (which just means we have a formal agreement that we will buy the land as long as things like planning permission goes through).

The thing we are putting on top of that land? Well, that will be like a run of the mill mortgage. We are the owners, but somebody else holds the deeds and can take it all off us if we don't keep up with repayments.

Once the term is up, it is the same as a mortgage being up. We own the building. (I haven't seen anything to suggest we are moving in leasehold to be cair so i assume the council payments stop at the same time as the loan repayments"




Well, as long as they don't start fracking underneath the stadium, it's all ours then? :)
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March 24, 2017, 05:34:40 PM
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Fuck this. I'm off to the politics thread for therapy.
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March 26, 2017, 05:38:20 PM
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In ancient Rome they were able to flood the colosseum for boat and water based spectacles. I would think this stadium may well be built on reinforced concrete rafts and pile driven concrete pillars down to the sandstone strata. Whether or not the pillars and the water will remain as an integral part of the features, is obviously in the hands of the Architects and costings people of EFC. I'm looking forwards to see how and what they are going to come up with. The costs will dominate the preferred principle design, I would think.
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March 26, 2017, 06:41:42 PM
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Check out how the train station at Canary Wharf was constructed... I'd imagine the principle would be the same but on a larger scale.

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It looks excellent doesn't it. Maybe a shopping precinct underneath is what they will go for. :)
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