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March 20, 2017, 07:25:15 PM
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Could a new 'Sergeant Pepper' rail line serve thousands in north Liverpool?
The proposed new line would also link up with the Liverpool Waters development and a new Everton stadium

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A vision has been laid-out for a potential “Sergeant Pepper” rail line that could serve thousands of people in north Liverpool - as well as Everton’s new stadium.

Wirral-based Kayla Bibby , a technician for a structural engineering firm, has proposed the new line - which would include building 16 new stations and would serve the major new developments at Liverpool Waters and the proposed Knowledge Quarter.

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Her idea involves building 16 new stations, bringing disused tunnels back into use and recreating the former Liverpool Overhead Railway.

Kayla is behind the Liverpool Underground campaign and has previously shared her idea for a massively expanded Merseyrail system, similar to the London tube network.

While the overall vision is a very long-term idea, she believes work could begin on her vision for a 9.25 mile Sergeant Pepper line right away as 80% of the proposed line already exists.


Map of Liverpool City Region railways by Kayla Bibby. The map has taken her Three years to complete.
She said: “We propose to bring these lines back into passenger use and reconnect these densely populated districts to the city’s rail network.

“This is a very achievable nine mile circuit for inner north Liverpool, we envisage the Sergeant Pepper Line will be very busy, so we’ve proposed trains be made of up to eight-car services permanently with a frequency of every ten minutes off-peak and every five minutes for peak times and on Everton match days.”

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The map shows three different coloured sections, which Kayla proposes could be brought together to form the new circular line.

The yellow section is the existing Canada Dock freight line branch from Edge Hill to North Liverpool docks, which closed to passengers in 1948.

The stations on this stretch of line would be rebuilt to serve the thousands of people who live there.

The red lines are existing disused rail tunnels, the longest being the Waterloo tunnel, which stretches two miles under central Liverpool from Edge Hill to Great Howard Street.

The shorter tunnel runs from Atlantic Junction on the Canada Dock branch under Bank Hall Station and out towards the docks.

The blue line would be a 1.6 mile section of brand new overhead railway, recreating the Liverpool Overhead Railway - affectionately known as the Docker’s Umbrella - which was demolished in 1957.


The Canada Dock Tunnel would be brought back into use under the proposals
Kayla’s idea for an overhead railway would run past Everton’s proposed new waterfront stadium and through £5.5bn Liverpool Waters to create a full circle.

She added: “Liverpool as a city is growing, you only have to look around and see the tens of billions of pounds of investment being poured in to the huge new developments across the city. We believe the Sergeant Pepper is needed right now and should be top of Merseytravel’s agenda.

“It is vital that the Sergeant Pepper Line’s route is safeguarded and that Merseytravel works closely with Liverpool City Council, Peel Holdings and all other developers to make sure its proposed path and future stations are not compromised by their future developments.

“This needs to be made clear at the earliest opportunity so the proposed masterplans of Liverpool Waters and Paddington Village can be adjusted accordingly.

“This would add billions to the city’s economy, its passenger levels could rival the Wirral and Northern lines.

“Its only nine miles long, but would connect the city centre with so many homes and massive future developments and the recreated overhead railway, if done right, could prove to be a major tourist attraction.”

Kayla says she has sent her proposals to Merseytravel chiefs Frank Rodgers and Cllr Liam Robinson and has also passed them to Metro Mayor candidate Steve Rotheram, who she said was very impressed by them.


How the proposed Lime Street-Elizabeth station could look
THE PROPOSED SERGEANT PEPPER LINE - STATION BY STATION

Edge Hill - a new island platform on the north side of the existing station interchange, with existing City Line services.

Paddington - A new underground station is proposed within the Waterloo Tunnel in the heart of the new Knowledge Quarter - close to the Metropolitan Cathedral and new Royal Liverpool Hospital.

Lime Street-Elizabeth - Potentially named London Road, this new underground station would be based outside TJ Hughes.

Marybone - A new semi-underground station partially within the Byrom Street cutting, opposite JMU’s Byrom Street campus.

Kayla says this could has the potential to be a future interchange with the Wirral Line. An additional platform could be added to the Wirral loop line between Moorfields and Lime Street, with platforms connected by a 100 metre tunnel.

Pall Mall - A new underground station at the back of the community college, which could accelerate the regeneration of the area.

Trafalgar - A new elevated station on the re-created Liverpool Overhead Railway could be built on the site of the filled in Trafalgar Dock - in the heart of Liverpool Water’s planned Central Docks district.

Bramley Moore - With everything pointing to a new Everton stadium in this location, Kayla believes a new elavated station on the overhead railway could be built directly next to the planned waterfront arena.


How the Sergeant Pepper underground line could look
Huskisson Dock - Another new elavated station for the overhead railway is suggested here = serving the industrial dock areas.

Bank Hall - The plan would be to re-build the Bank Hall Station with new underground platforms in the existing tunnel benath the Northern Line to allow interchange between the Sergeant Pepper Line and the Southport Line. Part of the tunnel has been filled in but Ms Berry says the tunnel remains intact.

Kirkdale - Newly rebuilt Kirkdale station, with a new platform in a widened cutting beneath the existing Ormskirk and Krikby branches of the Northern Line.

County Road - A new station on the same site of the former Spellow station which closed in 1948.

Walton Lane - New station proposed on the site of the former Walton and Anfield Station, which also closed in 1948.

Cherry Lane - A new station serving the large housing estates in the area.


Clubmoor - New station on the site of the former Breck Road station, which closed with the others in 1948.

Tuebrook - The idea would be to re-build Tuebrook station on the same site where it was demolished nearly 70 years ago.

Edge Lane - Again this would be a station rebuilt on its former site.
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March 20, 2017, 07:31:20 PM
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The only thing I'm gutted about is not taking the boy to Goodison.
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March 20, 2017, 07:32:19 PM
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I'm not one to give Liverpool supporters stick, but if this does come together, which I've never questioned or had any doubt it will. For my one and only  example. In Liverpool at Christmas, one of my elder sister's sons in law, a really dumb red. Proceeded to give me stick about the Derby result. All I said to him was. "Yeah, but I'm happy we're going in the right direction". "What do you reckon on the new Everton Waterfront stadium"? The unexpected pleasure I got as I watched him squirm and struggle to control his envy in front of 20 or 30 people was a beautiful sight. Believe me, you long suffering blues up there on Merseyside, Farhad Moshiri is handing you a huge WMD. Enjoy the carnage.;D
WMD? Good god don't tell Blair or Bush that it'll be called in! 😂😂😂😂


March 20, 2017, 07:40:10 PM
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Now I'm not one to gloat, but when this is all announced It will be hard for me not to rub the reds noses in it, in fact I'll have a bloody good laugh while doing it.

March 20, 2017, 07:50:28 PM
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Shouldn't the new railway line be called The Magical Mystery Tour?
There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.

March 20, 2017, 07:54:55 PM
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Could a new 'Sergeant Pepper' rail line serve thousands in north Liverpool?
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A vision has been laid-out for a potential “Sergeant Pepper” rail line that could serve thousands of people in north Liverpool - as well as Everton’s new stadium.

Wirral-based Kayla Bibby , a technician for a structural engineering firm, has proposed the new line - which would include building 16 new stations and would serve the major new developments at Liverpool Waters and the proposed Knowledge Quarter.

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Her idea involves building 16 new stations, bringing disused tunnels back into use and recreating the former Liverpool Overhead Railway.

Kayla is behind the Liverpool Underground campaign and has previously shared her idea for a massively expanded Merseyrail system, similar to the London tube network.

While the overall vision is a very long-term idea, she believes work could begin on her vision for a 9.25 mile Sergeant Pepper line right away as 80% of the proposed line already exists.


Map of Liverpool City Region railways by Kayla Bibby. The map has taken her Three years to complete.
She said: “We propose to bring these lines back into passenger use and reconnect these densely populated districts to the city’s rail network.

“This is a very achievable nine mile circuit for inner north Liverpool, we envisage the Sergeant Pepper Line will be very busy, so we’ve proposed trains be made of up to eight-car services permanently with a frequency of every ten minutes off-peak and every five minutes for peak times and on Everton match days.”

READ MORE
Joe Anderson reveals plans to build train station close to new Everton stadium site

0:00

Video thumbnail, Merseyside railway stations of a bygone era
CLICK TO PLAY
WATCH NEXT
Take a look inside Gostins
MERSEYSIDE RAILWAY STATIONS OF A BYGONE ERA
The map shows three different coloured sections, which Kayla proposes could be brought together to form the new circular line.

The yellow section is the existing Canada Dock freight line branch from Edge Hill to North Liverpool docks, which closed to passengers in 1948.

The stations on this stretch of line would be rebuilt to serve the thousands of people who live there.

The red lines are existing disused rail tunnels, the longest being the Waterloo tunnel, which stretches two miles under central Liverpool from Edge Hill to Great Howard Street.

The shorter tunnel runs from Atlantic Junction on the Canada Dock branch under Bank Hall Station and out towards the docks.

The blue line would be a 1.6 mile section of brand new overhead railway, recreating the Liverpool Overhead Railway - affectionately known as the Docker’s Umbrella - which was demolished in 1957.


The Canada Dock Tunnel would be brought back into use under the proposals
Kayla’s idea for an overhead railway would run past Everton’s proposed new waterfront stadium and through £5.5bn Liverpool Waters to create a full circle.

She added: “Liverpool as a city is growing, you only have to look around and see the tens of billions of pounds of investment being poured in to the huge new developments across the city. We believe the Sergeant Pepper is needed right now and should be top of Merseytravel’s agenda.

“It is vital that the Sergeant Pepper Line’s route is safeguarded and that Merseytravel works closely with Liverpool City Council, Peel Holdings and all other developers to make sure its proposed path and future stations are not compromised by their future developments.

“This needs to be made clear at the earliest opportunity so the proposed masterplans of Liverpool Waters and Paddington Village can be adjusted accordingly.

“This would add billions to the city’s economy, its passenger levels could rival the Wirral and Northern lines.

“Its only nine miles long, but would connect the city centre with so many homes and massive future developments and the recreated overhead railway, if done right, could prove to be a major tourist attraction.”

Kayla says she has sent her proposals to Merseytravel chiefs Frank Rodgers and Cllr Liam Robinson and has also passed them to Metro Mayor candidate Steve Rotheram, who she said was very impressed by them.


How the proposed Lime Street-Elizabeth station could look
THE PROPOSED SERGEANT PEPPER LINE - STATION BY STATION

Edge Hill - a new island platform on the north side of the existing station interchange, with existing City Line services.

Paddington - A new underground station is proposed within the Waterloo Tunnel in the heart of the new Knowledge Quarter - close to the Metropolitan Cathedral and new Royal Liverpool Hospital.

Lime Street-Elizabeth - Potentially named London Road, this new underground station would be based outside TJ Hughes.

Marybone - A new semi-underground station partially within the Byrom Street cutting, opposite JMU’s Byrom Street campus.

Kayla says this could has the potential to be a future interchange with the Wirral Line. An additional platform could be added to the Wirral loop line between Moorfields and Lime Street, with platforms connected by a 100 metre tunnel.

Pall Mall - A new underground station at the back of the community college, which could accelerate the regeneration of the area.

Trafalgar - A new elevated station on the re-created Liverpool Overhead Railway could be built on the site of the filled in Trafalgar Dock - in the heart of Liverpool Water’s planned Central Docks district.

Bramley Moore - With everything pointing to a new Everton stadium in this location, Kayla believes a new elavated station on the overhead railway could be built directly next to the planned waterfront arena.


How the Sergeant Pepper underground line could look
Huskisson Dock - Another new elavated station for the overhead railway is suggested here = serving the industrial dock areas.

Bank Hall - The plan would be to re-build the Bank Hall Station with new underground platforms in the existing tunnel benath the Northern Line to allow interchange between the Sergeant Pepper Line and the Southport Line. Part of the tunnel has been filled in but Ms Berry says the tunnel remains intact.

Kirkdale - Newly rebuilt Kirkdale station, with a new platform in a widened cutting beneath the existing Ormskirk and Krikby branches of the Northern Line.

County Road - A new station on the same site of the former Spellow station which closed in 1948.

Walton Lane - New station proposed on the site of the former Walton and Anfield Station, which also closed in 1948.

Cherry Lane - A new station serving the large housing estates in the area.


Clubmoor - New station on the site of the former Breck Road station, which closed with the others in 1948.

Tuebrook - The idea would be to re-build Tuebrook station on the same site where it was demolished nearly 70 years ago.

Edge Lane - Again this would be a station rebuilt on its former site.

Bloody fucksticks!


    

I'm only here for the cladding/Bramley Moore Dock updates


March 20, 2017, 07:57:28 PM
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March 20, 2017, 08:12:43 PM
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That line isn't an actual plan - someone has just come up with it and emailed Merseytravel.

There is a likely station mentioned a few weeks ago opposite the Tobacco warehouse on the existing Northern Line.

March 20, 2017, 08:13:22 PM
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Nah, i love this kind of stuff even when it has nothing to do with Everton and follow it religiously.

The bird who did that may as well be showing off an A-level design project.

Every 2 or 3 years there is a little groundswell of support and some plans appear for expanding the network and nothing comes of it.
Due to the 10-streets project there will deffo be a new station between moorefields and sandhills, but don't expect any more than that.

March 20, 2017, 09:09:53 PM
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Nah, i love this kind of stuff even when it has nothing to do with Everton and follow it religiously.
Same here.

I waste a day pretty much every month reading up about everything on that Skyscraper City forum.
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March 20, 2017, 09:25:55 PM
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Cozzie


This is fucking boss.

Always said how cool it would be if we had a trainline going direct to the ground. And on the way in the walls would be decorated with great moments from our history on the way in.

March 20, 2017, 09:53:25 PM
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March 20, 2017, 10:41:23 PM
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March 20, 2017, 11:24:35 PM
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I know its been 125 years since we moved into goodison.

Dunno whether the date has passed or is coming up.
Tomorrow I think
It's the roll I way

March 20, 2017, 11:32:51 PM
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That line isn't an actual plan - someone has just come up with it and emailed Merseytravel.

There is a likely station mentioned a few weeks ago opposite the Tobacco warehouse on the existing Northern Line.

Mersey travel have a plan of potential stations along potential lines. This is one of them.