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February 24, 2018, 12:29:01 AM
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Think Emirates is 60,897

Spurs have purposely made theirs 61,000, just a smidge ahead of the Arse.

Love us to see what the capacity is of anfield when they regenerate the other end, and then just have 1 more seat to piss them off.
I don't know if that would be a good thing as I don't think we'd fill it.  I'd rather have a stadium around 50k that's really tight with a great atmosphere than a huge thing with about 6k spare seats. There's a reason why Liverpool have more seats than us, they have about 10x the amount of fans as us and demand is huge, building a bigger stadium isn't going to change that.


February 24, 2018, 01:31:20 AM
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However to build for the future is sensible, we have a huge fan base and working on the assumption concessions are sensible why ever not? We will make more on corporate, excellent facilities and merchandise, it's win win after all empty seat cost nothing, full seats are full seats
Have no problem with a stadium that's expandable, that makes sense. I appreciate its a different scale but look at some of spurs games at Wembley with so many empty seats and city, with all their recent glory struggle to fill theirs. Empty seats affect the atmosphere in my opinion and I'd rather have a stadium that's got for purpose now, not 10 years down the line. The other option is to go massive then basically give away tickets similar to west ham, the problem is everyone snaps up a dirt cheap season ticket etc and it matters little if you go our not as its cheap.

March 22, 2018, 09:09:29 PM
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The novelty of the first few seasons at the new stadium with supporters from all over the country and the world alike will attract greater crowds for the first 2 or 3 seasons there and thatís what we must capitalise on.

Possibly, you've also got to take into account the view you get. Its a fair old trek for me to get to games so im limited to getting tickets via stubhub or when on general sale and you have to weigh up the pros and cons and despite my love of Everton its not that appealing to travel 100's of miles to stare at a pillar for 90 minutes, I also sat in the family enclosure with my son at the last game and despite this not being classed as an unobstructed view you still couldnt see the ball when it was on the ground the other side of the pitch!! If I was offered the opportunity of getting a decent seat with a view of the pitch, good accessibility it would make my decision a lot easier.


March 23, 2018, 05:51:57 PM
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I'm hearing 52k seater.

Not particularly impressed for various reasons. I really don't understand the desire (from fans) for a smaller stadium either.

It's not in our interests, as consumers, to encourage scarcity in a new stadium. While I might trust someone like Kenwright to keep ticket prices low, I don't for a second have a lot of faith in Moshiri too. Spurs have used the scarcity of tickets in their new stadium to bump up prices and I fully expect we will too.

My personal reasons for not wanting it too big are as follows:

If we do 60k and struggle to fill it the atmosphere will be in danger (even more than it is), you'll have empty patches etc. The club could counter this by then reducing the cost of season tickets etc, this intern devalues the personal worth of the seat and supporters will be more inclined to have a week off, as it doesnt cost me that much anyway. You have the prospect of something like Arsenal or West Ham, where their recorded attendance is pretty much a sale out, yet the reality is very different, especially at Arsenal at present.
I just dont see all the fuss about its got to be massive, its got to be bigger than Liverpool etc. We wont be bigger than Liverpool on or off the field for years so build on whats made us what we are. Goodison is an intimate, compact stadium and used to have a good atmosphere, build what is relevant to our needs and not just to get one over someone else, that could end up being the detriment to what were about.

July 26, 2018, 04:41:03 PM
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.......................anyone looking for tickets when they get to general sale is only going to get the worst obstructed views. So they might not bother . (The exception is when the away team don't take the full allocation and we sell the UV to home fans. )
So I reckon we would pick up a lot more 'casual' fans if they could get a decent seat.
On the question of capacity @Bluedylan  ,Meis more or less said at St.Lukes the figure of 60k isn't physically do-able  ,even if it was  financially viable.
 

For sure, staring at a pillar for 90 minutes certainly puts me off buying a ticket!

July 31, 2018, 02:25:33 AM
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Spurs' amazing 62,000 new stadium, with London prices for everything, cost £350-400m according to their executive director.
Amazing? Looks like a s##thole, literally!!



December 21, 2018, 09:35:50 PM
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It's all linked together, profit, turnover, revenue etc, call it what you like. It's you that made the initial point that 52k will mean that we can't 'bridge the financial divide' to bigger clubs.

You mentioned money here as well.

And here.

You've got yourself convinced that more seats mean more income for the club when it's been pointed out it's not as simple as that. The club will have looked at the benefits and costs of going to other capacities between 52k and 62k, all their data has obviously concluded that 52k is the cut off point between cost v income potential and that anything above that, at this time would not be economically sensible to do. That doesn't mean we "fear ambition or are "timid" it means we've done things properly and looked into all the pros and cons before making the decision.

I get what your saying, but theres also a case for do it right and do it once, lets say BM sells out every week and we then need to upscale, that'll mean closing at least 1 side of the stadium for a good year, crap atmosphere while its closed, disgruntled fans etc. I personally think 62k is probably too big and 52k a little the other way.
The one biggish issue I have with this is Meis tweets etc saying 'look at the miles in my car, it says 62,178', its pointless and slightly irritating when large majorities wanted that number only to then be told its 10k short.

April 17, 2019, 03:40:02 AM
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Here's a Look at the new Western Sydney stadium which was opened on Sunday


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That's nasty, id be a bit gutted if ours turned out like that

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July 25, 2019, 05:19:14 PM
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July 25, 2019, 07:07:16 PM
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So just to clarify is it just the invite who will see the plans today and the rest of us tomorrow or will we all get a glimpse tonight?
Expecting the usual twitter images to fly around regardless

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July 25, 2019, 10:16:15 PM
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They match a lot of what is said it will be like.
This is torture, I want desperately to ask for you to post them, but I don't too!!!

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July 25, 2019, 10:58:02 PM
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Hmm, just watched the video and im a little underwhelmed. Was expecting the home stand to be bigger and more intimidating, it looks pretty much the same as every other side? Not sure I like the outside either, but thats my preference and some will love it. Think I still prefer the Kings Dock design over this, but will still be a great venue to move into

Edit: Although ive just seen some other photos and I might change my mind, looks very nice from across the water!
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July 26, 2019, 02:54:21 AM
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I do like it, but was hoping for a more dominating home wall, I know it's hard to see, but it doesn't look as big or commanding as what spurs does?

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