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July 26, 2018, 04:52:04 PM
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Anyone like the look of this? I like the roof. Not sure about the rest like.



https://twitter.com/AtlantaFalcons/status/1022282854657474560

$2 billion that cost.


July 26, 2018, 05:15:28 PM
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$2 billion that cost.



It's obviously out of our spending power to get anywhere near. I thought it might trigger a response on our smaller stadium having a roof. Or whatever people have in mind. I know little about costing. I'll leave that to Farhad and his money launderers. :)
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July 28, 2018, 04:04:30 AM
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Anyone like the look of this? I like the roof. Not sure about the rest like.



https://twitter.com/AtlantaFalcons/status/1022282854657474560

Because of the Mercedes logo view from above, and the synchronicity of the initials...we in the NFL humour world tend to call the Falcons' stadium "Megatron's Butthole."  :D
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July 28, 2018, 04:06:48 AM
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Also, might I ask you folks a favour - for the Premiership preview series we are doing, my Canadian Fulham buddy is collecting tidbits on stadiums, including pictures.  Does anyone have a preferred/iconic shot of Goodison to suggest for me?

I will use this thread to summarize some of the Bramley Moore project (I'm a 55K man, and suspect that's about what we shall get).
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July 28, 2018, 04:49:17 AM
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Also, might I ask you folks a favour - for the Premiership preview series we are doing, my Canadian Fulham buddy is collecting tidbits on stadiums, including pictures.  Does anyone have a preferred/iconic shot of Goodison to suggest for me?

I will use this thread to summarize some of the Bramley Moore project (I'm a 55K man, and suspect that's about what we shall get).
.......................take your pick from these ,I prefer the floodlit shots.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=goodison+park&rlz=1C1GGGE_en-gbGB564GB608&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=uO99pyzh9P4cVM%253A%252Cyfar8Q8PYmUObM%252C_&usg=__I6heJjG0nlJRXZHGFH5Zau2xQiA%3D&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj00onfoMDcAhUPfMAKHUjTBoEQ9QEwB3oECAYQDA#imgrc=C8bfZxD5IPHlqM:
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July 28, 2018, 04:56:30 AM
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Ramjam


Some great shots there Alanvideo
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July 28, 2018, 01:08:27 PM
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Just thinking, could the stall on funding,plans and capacity be related to recent rumours of moshes partner looking to sell his shares in Arsenal ?
If he was to sell I donít think Bill would be obstructive with his shares.
Itís just a theory but if the Arsenal shares are sold it could change everything we have all believed to date.
If this is the case I think the new ground would move forward at a rapid pace, just think a ground well in excess of what was originally mooted sponsored by say BMW

July 28, 2018, 07:34:13 PM
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Just thinking, could the stall on funding,plans and capacity be related to recent rumours of moshes partner looking to sell his shares in Arsenal ?
If he was to sell I donít think Bill would be obstructive with his shares.
Itís just a theory but if the Arsenal shares are sold it could change everything we have all believed to date.
If this is the case I think the new ground would move forward at a rapid pace, just think a ground well in excess of what was originally mooted sponsored by say BMW

 Nothing wrong with what was originally mooted is there ?

July 28, 2018, 07:47:35 PM
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Just thinking, could the stall on funding,plans and capacity be related to recent rumours of moshes partner looking to sell his shares in Arsenal ?
If he was to sell I donít think Bill would be obstructive with his shares.
Itís just a theory but if the Arsenal shares are sold it could change everything we have all believed to date.
If this is the case I think the new ground would move forward at a rapid pace, just think a ground well in excess of what was originally mooted sponsored by say BMW
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Don't hold your breath on the Arsenal situation. Even if it happens and he takes an interest in Everton you are still talking months and I don't think anyone is going to hold up everything up for such a tenuous possibility.
Perhaps this needs a thread of its own about Usmanov but let's not forget that whilst it would be  nice to have a mega rich owner(s) and compete in the future he/they will go one day (he's 64 now) and the PL financial bubble will also burst one day. I wonder where that leaves us and the other 'rich' clubs in similar situations?
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July 28, 2018, 07:52:35 PM
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sam of the south


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Don't hold your breath on the Arsenal situation. Even if it happens and he takes an interest in Everton you are still talking months and I don't think anyone is going to hold up everything up for such a tenuous possibility.
Perhaps this needs a thread of its own about Usmanov but let's not forget that whilst it would be  nice to have a mega rich owner(s) and compete in the future he/they will go one day (he's 64 now) and the PL financial bubble will also burst one day. I wonder where that leaves us and the other 'rich' clubs in similar situations?

So, youíre saying thereís no point getting Usmanov on board because he might be dead soon...?🤔 
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July 28, 2018, 07:55:44 PM
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Don't hold your breath on the Arsenal situation. Even if it happens and he takes an interest in Everton you are still talking months and I don't think anyone is going to hold up everything up for such a tenuous possibility.
Perhaps this needs a thread of its own about Usmanov but let's not forget that whilst it would be  nice to have a mega rich owner(s) and compete in the future he/they will go one day (he's 64 now) and the PL financial bubble will also burst one day. I wonder where that leaves us and the other 'rich' clubs in similar situations?
The PL financial bubble has been waiting to burst since it's inception, bit just seems to get bigger and bigger every year.
Where any bubble bursting will leave any club is going to be down to whatever measures have been written into any contract that exists between the business and it's owner. It will depend upon whether any money put into the club by the owner is an investment, a gift or a loan. If it's an investment, then the investor is gambling on making money and like any investment, the return is completely variable depending upon the market at any given time. If it's a gift, then there's no real issue. If it's a loan, then the owner's going to want his money back and the club would find itself royally in the shit!

July 28, 2018, 08:02:53 PM
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So, youíre saying thereís no point getting Usmanov on board because he might be dead soon...?🤔 
No that's not what I'm saying.
The world moves on and football (not just Everton) is rolling in money to the point of it seeming almost obscene when you look at how much of the world has to live. It can't last and some thought has to be given to the longer term and how we survive when the money is less easily accessible.
We should know that more than most shouldn't we? We're all moaning about not winning anything for 20+ years and no longer being part of that small elite.
Once we were that elite but it doesn't last. Moores could buy any player we wanted once, and did, but it can't go on and we need to also be aware of what happens beyond BM Dock, a mega rich sugar daddy and TV money. Short term thinking only leads to problems
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July 28, 2018, 08:11:41 PM
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sam of the south


No that's not what I'm saying.
The world moves on and football (not just Everton) is rolling in money to the point of it seeming almost obscene when you look at how much of the world has to live. It can't last and some thought has to be given to the longer term and how we survive when the money is less easily accessible.
We should know that more than most shouldn't we? We're all moaning about not winning anything for 20+ years and no longer being part of that small elite.
Once we were that elite but it doesn't last. Moores could buy any player we wanted once, and did, but it can't go on and we need to also be aware of what happens beyond BM Dock, a mega rich sugar daddy and TV money. Short term thinking only leads to problems

Mate, hoping an obscenely rich investor/owner comes on board is not short-term thinking.

And sure, it is immoral when you juxtapose it with the disparity of wealth in society, but would you rather pass up Usmanov on moral grounds and let The Shite etc. pull off into the distance with their comparitive wealth and resources?
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July 28, 2018, 08:25:10 PM
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Mate, hoping an obscenely rich investor/owner comes on board is not short-term thinking.
It doesn't guarantee the long term, it works as long as they are around and committed but after that there will be uncertainty. Looking back it was short to medium term with John Moores but where are we now?
Don't get me wrong I'm excited about the possibility of us reaching the next level via someone else's money but some thought has to be given to what happens after that. It's not just us ask the same questions about Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal etc when their financial muscle moves on.
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July 28, 2018, 08:43:30 PM
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sam of the south


It doesn't guarantee the long term, it works as long as they are around and committed but after that there will be uncertainty. Looking back it was short to medium term with John Moores but where are we now?
Don't get me wrong I'm excited about the possibility of us reaching the next level via someone else's money but some thought has to be given to what happens after that. It's not just us ask the same questions about Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal etc when their financial muscle moves on.


But why do you assume it will end if the owner dies? Wouldnít there be a will?

And even if it did end, wouldnít it be beneficial while it lasted and put us in a different realm?
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