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August 13, 2018, 11:49:08 PM
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Also, you know, being involved in the redevelopment of Old Trafford and the construction of the Etihad is actually kind of relevant experience! (Though I'm absolutely trying to pretend he didn't play a role in the Park End being such a missed opportunity...)

Original PE was just a money thing wasn’t it?

Was only 2 years before that we had some sub 20,000 league gates.

So while yes, I agree it was short sighted I can also see why a conservative approach was taken.


August 14, 2018, 12:23:21 AM
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Original PE was just a money thing wasn’t it?

Was only 2 years before that we had some sub 20,000 league gates.

So while yes, I agree it was short sighted I can also see why a conservative approach was taken.
A lack of money might excuse the initial build/low capacity.

My understanding is that it wasn't built/designed in such a way that future expansion was factored into the designs though. That's not something that money excuses really.
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August 14, 2018, 12:32:27 AM
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A lack of money might excuse the initial build/low capacity.

My understanding is that it wasn't built/designed in such a way that future expansion was factored into the designs though. That's not something that money excuses really.

Well to an extent if you are designing and building to a limited budget that may well prevent an option to increase capacity at a later stage, what would you have done in PE, design a two tier stand and just build the one tier that you could afford to finance at the time ? That would have resulted in much lower capacity than we have now.


August 14, 2018, 12:47:30 AM
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According to the OS ,Everton received £1.3m from the Football Trust towards the cost of the Park End . I don't know what proportion of the total cost that represents but at 1994 prices it was a good subsidy.
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August 14, 2018, 12:55:28 AM
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You may say it's a joke but presumably the transfer window for heads of estates won't open until the grass growing season ends in November?  Half a season of groundsmen struggling out of position until we get a head of estate who can dominate the pitch. Relying on Marcel to go out and find the right man again? Heard we're interested in a loan deal for a promising grass cutter from Barca.

Oh shit I didn’t think of that, who is going to run the estates. Ffs Everton. Moshiri is a clueless fraud.
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August 14, 2018, 01:48:13 AM
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Original PE was just a money thing wasn't it?

Was only 2 years before that we had some sub 20,000 league gates.

So while yes, I agree it was short sighted I can also see why a conservative approach was taken.
"someone" said we didn't deserve a bigger stand. The stand build itself was entirely funded by the grants from the football league following the move to all-seater stadiums.

Everton could have put money towards a bigger stand but the fans didn't deserve it apparently


August 14, 2018, 03:18:32 AM
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"someone" said we didn't deserve a bigger stand. The stand build itself was entirely funded by the grants from the football league following the move to all-seater stadiums.

Everton could have put money towards a bigger stand but the fans didn't deserve it apparently

Curious now, who was that “someone”  Johnson ?

August 14, 2018, 03:36:39 AM
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To be fair it was nearly 25 years ago and we're only now looking like we may need a little more capacity.
Something clever written by someone else.

August 14, 2018, 03:47:40 AM
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Curious now, who was that "someone”  Johnson ?
Nope...

August 14, 2018, 03:51:33 AM
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August 14, 2018, 03:52:44 AM
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To be fair it was nearly 25 years ago and we're only now looking like we may need a little more capacity.
.....................  Most games have been sold out over the past 4/5 seasons ,plus you're not taking into account that only obstructed views are available so it puts off ' casual 'supporters. When visitors don't take the Upper section ,which is a decent view , it gets sold to home fans in no time ,proving there is a demand for more capacity.
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August 14, 2018, 04:32:16 AM
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August 14, 2018, 04:37:08 AM
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Jamokachi


At first I bought great we’ve gone out and got our man...

But this guy’s been with us since 2016. the best possible man to head up this development was just chilling in our ‘head of estates’ role, whatever that is, yeah.

And Denise Barrett-Baxendale was in another role at the club prior to being promoted to CEO. She's probably the wrong choice too eh? FFS Everton...

August 14, 2018, 04:46:22 AM
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And Denise Barrett-Baxendale was in another role at the club prior to being promoted to CEO. She's probably the wrong choice too eh? FFS Everton...

Getting awfully lucky aren’t we.
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August 14, 2018, 04:50:12 AM
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Jamokachi


Getting awfully lucky aren’t we.

Are we? Or have we been hiring well for a number of years now?

@Bluedylan accused you of relentless negativity the other day, hard not to agree when you make posts like this. There's no basis to it at all.