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July 15, 2018, 12:45:50 PM
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Bluedylan


Bit over the top in your criticism of him. As are many on here. Probably should move him on if we can, but I don't think he is the horrible person you and others on this forum like to make me out to be. I'm sure i'll be slated for this opinion -- made out to be an apologist for him. But I just don't think the evidence of him being a bad person is as prevalent or dispositive as you seem to think it is. The best you can say is that he is overly confident in his abilities and can be a bit selfish -- making him much like most of the other attacking players in the Prem.

No, it's fine mate. You're entitled to your view. I wouldn't dream of thinking of him as a 'bad person', how could I comment on that? But for me, he overestimates his own ability significantly and isn't a team player in any way. Wish he'd have gone a few seasons back. But yeah, feel free to disagree.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.


July 15, 2018, 01:03:07 PM
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GLewis

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When youíre career at a club goes down the pan, seemingly in direct correlation with stealing a pen of the designated taker, then itís pretty hard to forget if he does something similar.

July 15, 2018, 01:14:53 PM
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Cods


Mirallasí flickers of brilliance should rate him as one of the best players at our club.  He has pace, can dribble and beat a player, has a good rate of scoring from free kicks, and is arguably suited to our new formation. These attributes (except pace) shouldnít diminish, and should be rediscoverable.

The lack of consistency and perhaps his attitude when things donít go his way is obviously what reduces his rating. And with experience his attitude should change for the better.

He is a player that is looking out for himself as is every other player at this club.

Iíd be very surprised if any one of our players is going to give up an opportunity to help out another when it may hinder their own chances, especially when theyíre not a regular.
 
It is Ďcompetition for placesí after all, the growth of the squad as a whole is the managerís job.

The same goes for Sandro too. We need to find what it is that he is missing as he could definitely be the player we need.  I donít think that you can become a poor player overnight.
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July 15, 2018, 02:20:11 PM
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Bluedylan


Nah, it's a team sport. You don't do anything or achieve anything in football without your team-mates, no matter how good you are. I think that single-minded, driven thing is great if you're a tennis player or an athlete, but you have to have respect for your team-mates and your place in the team in football. Messi and Ronaldo can't do a thing if they don't get the ball. That's why they pretty much all say 'I'm just happy to help the team' or 'it's not about me, it's about the team'.

As most of us probably have, I've played a few team sports at a very amateur level, and the dynamics of the changing room are absolutely crucial. If someone walks around like Billy Big Bollocks but doesn't back it up, other players just lose respect for that player and it becomes an issue.

Kev's had the penalty thing. He also got sent home from training by Unsworth. There's probably other stuff I've forgotten. He drives around in a gold Bentley. I don't think you need to be particularly adept at psychology to have a rough idea what kind of person he is from those various bits of behaviour.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

July 15, 2018, 02:26:14 PM
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Jamokachi


You're making up a narrative here though mate, to suit your opinion. There's never been anything to suggest he's unpopular amongst his teammates, despite the penalty and having a falling out with the manager once. Dunc fell out plenty with various managers, yet was still popular in the dressing room.

I think you're a bit hung up on this.

July 15, 2018, 02:55:22 PM
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Paddockoldie


Is this thread about Sandro? Seems like Mirallas doesn't just steal penalties.


July 15, 2018, 03:09:26 PM
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Bob Sacamano

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He might be sound or whatever but can we stop claiming he still has the skill set of a winger? Literally every time Iíve seen him play in the past 12 months or so heís picked it up out wide and cut inside with little to no end product. Lather, rinse, repeat.

He should absolutely be sold on diminishing footballing ability and huge lack of effectiveness. Heís basically impotent.

Thereís genuinely no argument against selling him imo.

July 15, 2018, 03:11:02 PM
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GrantyBoy78


He might be sound or whatever but can we stop claiming he still has the skill set of a winger? Literally every time I've seen him play in the past 12 months or so he's picked it up out wide and cut inside with little to no end product. Lather, rinse, repeat.

He should absolutely be sold on diminishing footballing ability and huge lack of effectiveness. He's basically impotent.

There's genuinely no argument against selling him imo.
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