November 21, 2017, 02:21:31 PM

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What should we do? (RESET 29 SEPTEMBER, AFTER LIMASSOL GAME)

Fire him now before our season goes tits up
Give him till Christmas.. If performances and results aren't where they should be for what he's spent, he's out
Let's just see how things are at the end of the season
The season has barely begun, he's a great manager and we should get 100% behind him
Ohhh Davey Moyes, Davey Davey Davey Moyes...
Fuck off with your polls, you cunt

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October 17, 2017, 07:51:53 PM
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Bluedylan


Why are we crying out for pace?  Why is everyone obsessed about pace and width?  It's possible to win without them, and even then your never going to have a team that has no width whatsoever - there'll always be some.

Watched the Prem at all in recent years?
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

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October 17, 2017, 07:56:47 PM
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Ross


Has there ever been a successful team in the league that didnít have pace and width?

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October 17, 2017, 07:57:28 PM
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ally2


Every team has width. So begging for 'width' doesn't really mean anything. And what good is pace against teams that sit back? (Watching the league the last few years - quite a lot of teams sit back)


October 17, 2017, 08:17:39 PM
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Sir Stealth

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You can possibly get round having no pace or width by having really good techincal players who move the ball quickly and also have great off the ball movement, who can play amazing intricate stuff and thread eye of the needle through balls

But we don't do that either
You think Lou Bega knocked it out of the park with Mambo number 1?!No but he kept at it!

October 17, 2017, 08:24:16 PM
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Lxxx


Every team has width. So begging for 'width' doesn't really mean anything. And what good is pace against teams that sit back? (Watching the league the last few years - quite a lot of teams sit back)

We don't have width. You're clearly just being contrary as it's blindingly obvious we play a narrow formation in which 8 players occupy a central line down the pitch. Whether they are told to do that or whether they naturally gravitate to where they feel most comfortable is open to discussion but it happens.
The two players who occupy the flanks can't attack and defend at the same time.

It might help if we had Kyle Walker and Danny Rose as our two full backs to offer the pace and energy to play a full flank on their own, but we don't.

October 17, 2017, 08:26:48 PM
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JordanianEmbassy


Should have been sent off for the foul on Platt, and no idea what Seaman was doing standing so far over to one side anyway.


October 17, 2017, 08:30:15 PM
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Bluedylan


Nah you defo need pace.

Your CBS need pace so they can press high, compress the play, leave space in behind them and get back if needed.

Your FBs/WBs absolutely must have pace in the modern game, to camp in the opposition half and be able to get back and basically run their side of the pitch.

Forward players need pace to get ahead of defenders, to move teams around the pitch and obviously to get in behind.

It's an absolute pre-requisite for me. No coincidence Guardiola has bought a load of speed merchants in different positions, and it has unlocked their style and allowed the playmakers De Bruyne and Silva to run the game from the middle.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

October 17, 2017, 08:37:01 PM
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Lxxx


Nah you defo need pace.

Your CBS need pace so they can press high, compress the play, leave space in behind them and get back if needed.

Your FBs/WBs absolutely must have pace in the modern game, to camp in the opposition half and be able to get back and basically run their side of the pitch.

Forward players need pace to get ahead of defenders, to move teams around the pitch and obviously to get in behind.

It's an absolute pre-requisite for me. No coincidence Guardiola has bought a load of speed merchants in different positions, and it has unlocked their style and allowed the playmakers De Bruyne and Silva to run the game from the middle.

I would like to think Sig could attempt to do the same for us if he was played with players like Sandro, DCL and at a push late in games Lookman. We look too pedestrian but we do actually have pacey players and a guy who has a brain who could orchestrate it but for some reason we get a mismatch of players in different positions each time out which doesn't help continuity.

October 17, 2017, 09:34:13 PM
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Macca77



October 17, 2017, 10:00:52 PM
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Lxxx


Got to feel a bit for Shakespeare, his losses were only expected defeats against the sides you're supposed to lose against.

October 17, 2017, 10:03:10 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


Another manager, another team, another bad run of results

We haven't had this team for five minutes!

This team is shite

October 17, 2017, 10:08:43 PM
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Macca77


Got to feel a bit for Shakespeare, his losses were only expected defeats against the sides you're supposed to lose against.

Touche

October 17, 2017, 10:19:40 PM
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formerKHL


you deffo need pace and width nowadays its what the premier league is basically all about...make the pitch big and wide and stretch the opposition... get the centre backs turned and try to get around the back off them.....

easy innit...Ronald...Ronald.....

October 17, 2017, 10:39:51 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


I'm amazed that the people in charge didn't see this coming. Pretty much everyone on this forum was convinced we'd sign an established quality winger and a striker. Not because they were in the know but because not even an idiot would think we could function without them. Instead we fucked about with Sigurdsson. It's beyond inept. We seem to have a habit of appointing managers who do the fucking ridiculous

October 17, 2017, 10:45:52 PM
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Ross


Craig Shakespeare had a better record during his premier league tenure than Ronald Koeman has during the  same period.
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