November 25, 2017, 05:39:10 PM

Poll

Who would you like in charge?

David Unsworth
Rafa Benitez
Thomas Tuchel
Carlo Ancelotti
David Moyes
Eddie Howe
Sam Allardyce
Marco Silva
Roberto Mancini
Mikel Arteta
Walter Mazzarri
Mark Hughes
Chris Coleman
Duncan Ferguson
Koeman to remain in charge
AN Other
Manuel Pellegrini
Sean Dyche
Diego Simeone

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October 24, 2017, 04:19:40 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


I think all these names getting mentioned by the press and bookies are just getting plucked from thin air.



Can't read anything into the bookies odds. It's just a list of any old shite someone might be daft enough to waste money on. The bookies know fuck all and are terrified that someone out there already knows the outcome. 10 50 quid bets and we could make any of them go odds on

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October 24, 2017, 04:22:44 AM
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Waltzer


What's Klinsman up to, his names usually rolled out at some point?

October 24, 2017, 04:29:12 AM
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Bluedylan


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October 24, 2017, 04:32:01 AM
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TheRam

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Unsworth wants it long-term according to Andy Hunter:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/23/ronald-koeman-sacked-everton-manager

I'm happy that he's got a genuine chance now to show what he's got.


October 24, 2017, 04:32:34 AM
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Mayor Farnum


There have been plenty of caretaker managers that have got an initial boost out of the team but it tends to go pear shaped when they get the job full time. Anyone know of a caretaker manager that has got the job and gone on to great things?

October 24, 2017, 04:35:23 AM
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Waltzer


I'm happy that he's got a genuine chance now to show what he's got.
I'd like nothing more than for Unworth to do well and be a huge success, but I'm trying to recall has they're ever been an interim manager that's come in and been a success, long term? Probably has, but I'm struggling to think of any.


October 24, 2017, 04:36:05 AM
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Waltzer


There have been plenty of caretaker managers that have got an initial boost out of the team but it tends to go pear shaped when they get the job full time. Anyone know of a caretaker manager that has got the job and gone on to great things?
Ha, Just beat me to it!

October 24, 2017, 04:40:28 AM
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Duncs_a_legend

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That's the beauty of the Unsworth appointment tbh. It gives us a chance to evaluate him as a manager.
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October 24, 2017, 04:40:44 AM
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There have been plenty of caretaker managers that have got an initial boost out of the team but it tends to go pear shaped when they get the job full time. Anyone know of a caretaker manager that has got the job and gone on to great things?
seems natural, the initial boost and inevitable fall off

the players will feel badly and also know the replacement manager candidates will be watching matches closely meaning they could play themselves into the team or into the squad or out the door over the next few weeks

regardless the caretaker manager spot seems likely to land Unsy a job somewhere regardless of how it goes I'd think

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October 24, 2017, 04:45:34 AM
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I'd like nothing more than for Unworth to do well and be a huge success, but I'm trying to recall has they're ever been an interim manager that's come in and been a success, long term? Probably has, but I'm struggling to think of any.

If you mean caretaker in the most literal sense, then no. They are by definition a stop-gap, appointed for their reputation as a safe pair of hands but nothing more. Those who go on to do great things like Mourinho or Klopp were never called caretaker to start with, they were wild punts with high hopes pinned on them.

I sometimes wonder how much a manager's early career is determined by these differences in wording and expectations.
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October 24, 2017, 04:47:45 AM
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Ancelotti would be fantastic but ok( koeman) realistically I would be happy with Silva

October 24, 2017, 05:02:08 AM
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TheRam

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I think we could tempt Silva.

He's on a two year deal at a club notorious for changing managers.

If we were to offer him a four year deal on a lot more than he's on at Watford I think he'll jump at that.

October 24, 2017, 05:15:24 AM
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There have been plenty of caretaker managers that have got an initial boost out of the team but it tends to go pear shaped when they get the job full time. Anyone know of a caretaker manager that has got the job and gone on to great things?

Although as a blue I hate to say it, but yes: Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish - promotion from within. That was Liverpool's best spell.

When the backroom staff have the talent, promote from within. Everton could have coached Kendall to take over the squad. Thankfully, he came back.

Unsworth is the obvious choice and deserves the chance.

October 24, 2017, 05:25:38 AM
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Tony Clifton


I'm burnt out and paranoid after Martinez and Koeman, can't see the wood for the trees and all that. 


October 24, 2017, 05:51:14 AM
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Although as a blue I hate to say it, but yes: Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish - promotion from within. That was Liverpool's best spell.

When the backroom staff have the talent, promote from within. Everton could have coached Kendall to take over the squad. Thankfully, he came back.

Unsworth is the obvious choice and deserves the chance.

Kendall and Dalglish - both player-managers.  Back when clubs just got on with it without so much fucking drama and microscopes! 

Now, imagine one of our older heads - Rooney, Jagielka, Baines - just being asked the question!   Baines would probably have a panic attack and soil himself on the spot, Jagielka would talk himself out of it - fast - and, Rooney would probably think it was a good idea, but, he'd develop a stutter mid-"errrrrm", having second thoughts as the press went neanderthal.

This is modern football.  Massive babies and egos everywhere.  Not just players either, as we've just experienced.

So yeah, leaning towards keeping it in the family myself. 

Here's our man:



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