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November 17, 2017, 01:56:31 PM
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Unsworth is the most impressive English coach not managing a first team prior to taking reins. He's made brave decisions and he's shown a clear direction in how he wants the team to play and develop. For a team drained of confidence when he came in, poor defensively, no goals, he'd lost his first 3 games, we were 2-0 down at home and he didn't falter or panic, and things came good. Maybe some luck with keeper, but Lennon non penalty and few other moments that could have gone differently in other games before then.

We look more stable at the back, and pose much more of a threat going forward. Now he has a week to get players together for coaching and team building. 4 games in 13 days was a baptism of fire, first 3 away against very good opposition.


What is that statement based on about Unsie being the best English coach out there? Forgive my ignorance I dont follow English coaches a great deal, I know he did okay with the under 23s but not much else?

And we've conceded 9 goals in the 4 games in charge, I suppose its open to interpretation but that doesnt strike me as being more stable?


November 17, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
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No mate. Sacking a manager at a specific time to give the caretaker/new manager the best possible chance to start well (ie more winnable games) is genuinely a thing. That's not even an opinion or one side of a debate. It's something that happens all the time, and something that boards consider.

You wanted him sacked for so long and then complain we didn't keep him longer to give Unsworth a chance. Again, what a load of tosh.
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November 17, 2017, 10:36:45 PM
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You wanted him sacked for so long and then complain we didn't keep him longer to give Unsworth a chance. Again, what a load of tosh.

You know that's not what I'm saying, but you're being a knob deliberately. Jog on mate.
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November 17, 2017, 10:40:35 PM
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You know that's not what I'm saying, but you're being a knob deliberately. Jog on mate.

No, I don't know what you saying. Sounds like you looking for excuses for Unsworth.
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November 17, 2017, 11:24:25 PM
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What is that statement based on about Unsie being the best English coach out there? Forgive my ignorance I dont follow English coaches a great deal, I know he did okay with the under 23s but not much else?

And we've conceded 9 goals in the 4 games in charge, I suppose its open to interpretation but that doesnt strike me as being more stable?

I was meaning, those not in senior management in PL or Championship. While U23s is a poor standard and none of the players are good enough to become real footballers, he did ok. He managed to win a few games and finished quite a few places off the bottom of the league.

Any half decent manager would be able to come in, wave his wand and turn us back into challenging for europe in first 10 days, not wait until first home league game. If we can't beat shit teams like Chelsea, Lyon in cup games and Leicester away, any new manager deserves to be sacked, things should go from shit to great overnight, they would be on course to win Europa league and competing for CL by now.

Koeman couldn't get team playing or turn it around in 20 games, despite his experience in management, but that's because of Steve Walsh spending 140m and not buying any good players. But those players have since become great again and we just need a big name manager, knows what it takes, who lots of people in media rate etc.

November 18, 2017, 06:13:50 AM
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There is that rubbish again about spending 140m.


November 18, 2017, 06:16:23 AM
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Hopefully tomorrow is Unsworths last game in charge and he can move on to a league or non league club and get some proper experience of football management
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November 18, 2017, 10:37:08 AM
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bluenuck


There is that rubbish again about spending 140m.

And the rubbish about not buying good players. Klassen, sig, and I'm sure Sandro and vlasic are very good players, too. We just didn't buy properly to build a balanced squad. There's a difference.

Oh, not to mention Pickford is a stud, and I think keane will come good if we actually get 3 defenders who can cover their positions properly.


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November 18, 2017, 08:13:35 PM
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Ridge


Can't you tell I was being facetious, sarcastic?  :eh:

We did spend 140m, that bit was true.

November 18, 2017, 11:05:02 PM
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Can't you tell I was being facetious, sarcastic?  :eh:

We did spend 140m, that bit was true.

I blame the rum.

November 18, 2017, 11:09:18 PM
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I'm really disappointed in Unsworth. I thought we'd at least be organized and difficult to play against but Palace opened us up quite easily today.

We seem to be getting less cohesive by the match. He needs to be replaced.

November 18, 2017, 11:10:55 PM
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I'm really disappointed in Unsworth. I thought we'd at least be organized and difficult to play against but Palace opened us up quite easily today.

I'm not surprised at all, he has been completely undermined by the board throughout the passing weeks.
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November 18, 2017, 11:13:39 PM
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He gets criticised for not playing new signings, when they play and are shit it's his fault too. Any manager is going to have his work cut out making a defence that can hold a trickle of water.

Jags and Williams are not a good centre back pairing, Holgate is still learning and Funes Mori is a bit of a lunatic. But short of switching to 3 at the back, I don't see how you can find a stable defence.

I think today was a good day to try and see if he could get Keane to play, smaller pitch, they were likely to have Benteke's aerial threat and they are Palace rather than City.

November 18, 2017, 11:16:35 PM
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Unsie will be fine dropping down to his old job. I guess the new man will not be allowed to replace him?

November 18, 2017, 11:20:22 PM
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Saying that, City is probably more of a game it made sense, sit deep, lump it long and direct.

But you can't go toe to toe and trade blows when you have such vulnerabilities in defence. You might land a few blows, but you'll always be open to threat.