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November 24, 2017, 05:54:02 AM
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Ridge


I didn't think tonight was really about players being particularly gutless. The team set up was not right. There was no cohesion in pressing and the personnel didn't suit the shape.

It was a dead rubber, he gave a chance to all the misfits and youngsters to give them a chance.

We were dead in Europa when Koeman left, I've no idea why people expected us to beat Lyon or put out the best team tonight.


November 24, 2017, 05:54:53 AM
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What was he thinking bringing Feeney on.



Exactly, I said this at the time.

Lookman, Vlasic, and DCL absolutely, but not an 18 year-old CB coming on for his debut at RB against a useful side that already had their tails up.
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November 24, 2017, 06:00:07 AM
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Unsie  lolol  lolol  lolol
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November 24, 2017, 06:01:41 AM
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Duncs_a_legend

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Here we go
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November 24, 2017, 06:04:06 AM
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I know it was a nothing game .....but we showed zero pride and that hurts man ...my grandsons were devastated, one was asking to stay off cos the red noses gonna have a field day in class ....he's going ...character building for the years ahead .

Still asked for his everton pjs on though 😅.
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November 24, 2017, 06:06:42 AM
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Exactly, I said this at the time.

Lookman, Vlasic, and DCL absolutely, but not an 18 year-old CB coming on for his debut at RB against a useful side that already had their tails up.

It was even worse. He switched to a back three and moved Davies out to wing back.

Thatís a back three, comprised of defenders who donít pass well, with one of our few midfielders with an eye for a through ball moving outside.

For a team that struggles badly at passing the ball.


November 24, 2017, 06:14:10 AM
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Ridge


Gave Feeney a chance to get a bit of game time, he was the only defender on the bench and we were already falling apart defensively.

Williams looked like he was going to hang up his boots and Keane was gifting chances.

It obviously didn't help the lad or others, but at least the younger players were trying.


November 24, 2017, 06:56:25 AM
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But he's trying to win the job as he's going from game to game.

He couldn't afford to be too negative, because it's clear that board didn't fancy him, as they've avoided giving him the job at every opportunity.

Well it would have been more endearing than 1-2; 0-2; 0-3 ;)

It just seems like, it is as feared, that inexperienced mistakes are being highlighted at this level.

Harsh on him yes, but he stated he wanted the job so thatís what itís like at this level, intense scrutiny all the time.

We must have changed formation 3/4 times in the second half alone tonight, thatís very hard to keep up with even if youíre full of confidence. And weíve yet to see the best set up / mix of styles in the starting xi (Chelsea away) repeated, which is a bit odd.

And I donít buy that the players arenít trying; even tonight we could have equalised, before we collapsed, with Keaneís header but it was the Feeney sub that really let the wheels come off.

Looking at the pictures from training it appears that the players like his sessions but that could simply mean that heís a coach rather than a manager.

November 24, 2017, 08:38:18 AM
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Well it would have been more endearing than 1-2; 0-2; 0-3 ;)

It just seems like, it is as feared, that inexperienced mistakes are being highlighted at this level.

Harsh on him yes, but he stated he wanted the job so thatís what itís like at this level, intense scrutiny all the time.

We must have changed formation 3/4 times in the second half alone tonight, thatís very hard to keep up with even if youíre full of confidence. And weíve yet to see the best set up / mix of styles in the starting xi (Chelsea away) repeated, which is a bit odd.

And I donít buy that the players arenít trying; even tonight we could have equalised, before we collapsed, with Keaneís header but it was the Feeney sub that really let the wheels come off.

Looking at the pictures from training it appears that the players like his sessions but that could simply mean that heís a coach rather than a manager.

Missed the second half of this, and most of the first half actually. What happened with e Feeney sub? Why was he put on at RB? Or was that the cause of the goals..?

November 24, 2017, 08:38:37 AM
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Well it would have been more endearing than 1-2; 0-2; 0-3 ;)

It just seems like, it is as feared, that inexperienced mistakes are being highlighted at this level.

Harsh on him yes, but he stated he wanted the job so thatís what itís like at this level, intense scrutiny all the time.

We must have changed formation 3/4 times in the second half alone tonight, thatís very hard to keep up with even if youíre full of confidence. And weíve yet to see the best set up / mix of styles in the starting xi (Chelsea away) repeated, which is a bit odd.

And I donít buy that the players arenít trying; even tonight we could have equalised, before we collapsed, with Keaneís header but it was the Feeney sub that really let the wheels come off.

Looking at the pictures from training it appears that the players like his sessions but that could simply mean that heís a coach rather than a manager.

He's been pretty brave and maybe a bit too much. But the fans were always going to be concerned about inexperience, like with a young player. But it's the players who play the game and manager is influential not all powerful, other influences effect performance heavily. By and large been the younger players who have shown him respect and effort.

Players know that if others are playing shit, there is less pressure on them. When fans are focused on a new potential manager between each game, it provides no continuity, no ability to build or get any momentum.

I don't know where Unsworth goes from here, it's a difficult retreat to U23s, he's unlikely to get a big job off the back of it. He might yet get the job, if the board decide they don't like options until January, but seems highly unlikely now, especially given he's been in far better place earlier on.

November 24, 2017, 08:40:33 AM
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Missed the second half of this, and most of the first half actually. What happened with e Feeney sub? Why was he put on at RB? Or was that the cause of the goals..?

Team largely fell apart after, wasn't directly to blame for anything major, but wasn't a successful sub and it changed shape of team.

November 24, 2017, 08:55:43 AM
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Jamokachi


Nah, we need to get someone in, and sharpish.

November 24, 2017, 09:06:08 AM
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blueToffee

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What weíre doing this side of the international break without a manager is beyond me.

November 24, 2017, 09:41:47 AM
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The problem with / for Unsy is the players .They couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag at the moment .I am not sure what anyone could do with this team .Nothing a few wins won't put right but where will they come from?

November 24, 2017, 10:43:00 AM
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Ridge


I've not been as disillusioned as I've become this last few weeks with treatment of Unsworth. It always felt that a player or manager could only do their best, but endeavour for the club was paramount. In last month, I just see mercenaries for players, consumers for fans, and an owner with cash, but no direction, just feels increasing soulless.

Don't mean to offend anyone, or be dramatic. 2017 has been a pretty shit year for football and politics and I've got a bit too serious and vocal on both fronts on here. Getting bored of my own opinions, appreciate it's a shit time and a new manager will bring hope, but don't really care who it is. So best I tone it down and channel more energy in more productive and constructive manner  :cheers: