November 19, 2018, 05:34:47 AM

Poll

Sign his new contract

Yes.
111 (24.1%)
No.
80 (17.4%)
Will wait to see what happens with the new management position.
89 (19.3%)
He's already on his bike and he's off.
181 (39.3%)

Total Members Voted: 461

Author Topic: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?  (Read 42193 times)

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January 05, 2018, 04:40:59 PM
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What's Jim White saying?


January 05, 2018, 04:45:14 PM
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Macca77


What's Jim White saying?

Farhad has probably added him to the WhatsApp group

January 05, 2018, 04:47:34 PM
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Audrey Horne

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Absolutely gutted and fuming at the same time.
I have to return some videotapes.

Vamos lá Everton!


January 05, 2018, 04:48:51 PM
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Macca77


I'm amazed we haven't heard anything about us asking for one of their players to be included in the deal, I know they've got us over a barrel here like, Conte has said players can leave if they want, we want a striker or two, so get it done.

January 05, 2018, 04:51:15 PM
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I can see him getting a slight thigh strain when Chelsea are due back at Goodison, no way would he want to face the crowd now

He'll fold like a Mars bar on a barbeque

January 05, 2018, 04:59:10 PM
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I'm amazed we haven't heard anything about us asking for one of their players to be included in the deal, I know they've got us over a barrel here like, Conte has said players can leave if they want, we want a striker or two, so get it done.

Steve Walsh is probably still in Turkey patting himself on the  back and feeling smug about almost getting a new striker over the line....


January 05, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
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Spurs have been for a long while his destination of choice but they clearly hesitated when his hamstring went ping, Chelsea saw a late alternative to Chamberlain once he’d turned them down and made an offer that took Barkley and his agent by surprise and at which point stalled them for whatever reason (probably given the previous year long speculation about Spurs and the planning of the move) hoping they’d be back for him now. In the interim either Chelsea have become more palatable after consideration or Spurs interest has cooled given they could actually continue to wait out the final 6 months and get him for nothing in the summer.

Without his hamstring going he would have definitely been off last summer.

Spurs were never his destination of choice, he would have been taking a pay cut.

It's always been about securing the most money for him. His hamstring going was more of an opportunity for him and Chelsea to make/save some money.
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January 05, 2018, 05:08:09 PM
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Isn't his name Willian? The last couple of posts are starting to convince me it's William.
Let’s call him willie for continuity sake, would have him hear tho all day

January 05, 2018, 05:09:12 PM
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Normally I wouldn't booh and old player... don't know what I would have done if Lukaku had played following his ear celebration, but Barkley can fuck right off if he signs for Chelsea now for half the Price we would have got for him in the summer. Hope he has enjoyed his last 6 months salary

January 05, 2018, 05:14:59 PM
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Spurs where never his destination of choice, he would have been taking a pay cut.

It's always been about securing the most money for him. His hamstring going was more of an opportunity for him and Chelsea to make/save some money.

I doubt he’d have been taking a pay cut if he’d gone in the summer.

I also doubt Spurs have allowed themselves to be used as a stalking horse for 18 months by such bitter rivals as Chelsea.

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January 05, 2018, 05:22:14 PM
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I doubt he’d have been taking a pay cut if he’d gone in the summer.

I also doubt Spurs have allowed themselves to be used as a stalking horse for 18 months by such bitter rivals as Chelsea.



The maximum Spurs would pay is about £70k a week, so it would be roughly the same or slightly less than he's on now, and a massive pay cut compared to what we offered.
Apparently Chelsea are offering nearly double what spurs have offered, it's about money, not playing under Poch.
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January 05, 2018, 05:22:30 PM
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Let’s call him willie for continuity sake, would have him hear tho all day




I wouldn't mind him here, but Willie sounds like a little cock. :)
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January 05, 2018, 05:38:17 PM
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I feel a bit sorry for Barkley, he's not done much wrong other than want to leave and has conducted himself very well. If you try to take the rose tinted glasses off, financially he could have similar terms to stay, but it's a much better opportunity to win trophies in a short career. Lukaku and Stones left to pursue bigger ambitions, it's up to the club to agree terms with other clubs for transfer or match ambitions, the club has done neither.

Has been hanging over the club for over a year now, but we didn't give him a new deal when he wanted one. Koeman pushed him towards the exit, Koeman's exit was opportunity to bring him back in. Hiring Allardyce will not have given any hope of us making improvements in the near future, if anything it's pushed hopes of achieving things back a year or so.

We aren't matching his ambitions as a club, we've not shown him the respect of a key player and if you think we haven't missed him this season, you're watching a different game. He's not going to become a world great, but I can see him working well with Willian, Hazard and Morata and becoming a key player for them. He'll need game time to build relationships and understanding with other key players, but being surrounded by better players and more options will improve his game.

January 05, 2018, 05:49:27 PM
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I feel a bit sorry for Barkley, he's not done much wrong other than want to leave and has conducted himself very well. If you try to take the rose tinted glasses off, financially he could have similar terms to stay, but it's a much better opportunity to win trophies in a short career. Lukaku and Stones left to pursue bigger ambitions, it's up to the club to agree terms with other clubs for transfer or match ambitions, the club has done neither.

Lukaku and Stones didn't run down their contract and screw us out of money to earn some extra coin, even if they did  it wouldn't be as bad because they're not boyhood blues.

Has been hanging over the club for over a year now, but we didn't give him a new deal when he wanted one. Koeman pushed him towards the exit, Koeman's exit was opportunity to bring him back in. Hiring Allardyce will not have given any hope of us making improvements in the near future, if anything it's pushed hopes of achieving things back a year or so.
He did get offered a new deal, a very good deal, we've never failed to offer him a deal when he wanted one. It was probably bad timing by the club and should have been made 6 months earlier (as it coincided with the start of a turbulent relationship between Ross and Koeman), but I've not heard that he asked for a new deal before our offer.


We aren't matching his ambitions as a club, we've not shown him the respect of a key player and if you think we haven't missed him this season, you're watching a different game. He's not going to become a world great, but I can see him working well with Willian, Hazard and Morata and becoming a key player for them. He'll need game time to build relationships and understanding with other key players, but being surrounded by better players and more options will improve his game.

I'd argue that Koeman didn't show him much respect in 1 press conference, not the club. The club have tried to bend over backwards for him. Any half decent creative midfielder would have helped up this season.
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January 05, 2018, 05:50:01 PM
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I feel a bit sorry for Barkley, he's not done much wrong other than want to leave and has conducted himself very well. If you try to take the rose tinted glasses off, financially he could have similar terms to stay, but it's a much better opportunity to win trophies in a short career. Lukaku and Stones left to pursue bigger ambitions, it's up to the club to agree terms with other clubs for transfer or match ambitions, the club has done neither.

Has been hanging over the club for over a year now, but we didn't give him a new deal when he wanted one. Koeman pushed him towards the exit, Koeman's exit was opportunity to bring him back in. Hiring Allardyce will not have given any hope of us making improvements in the near future, if anything it's pushed hopes of achieving things back a year or so.

We aren't matching his ambitions as a club, we've not shown him the respect of a key player and if you think we haven't missed him this season, you're watching a different game. He's not going to become a world great, but I can see him working well with Willian, Hazard and Morata and becoming a key player for them. He'll need game time to build relationships and understanding with other key players, but being surrounded by better players and more options will improve his game.

 :wag: feel sorry him? Fuck that. He's been a cunt to maximise his own income and not give a shit about the club. He's wanted to leave for a while but never handed in a transfer request, gets to keep all those loyalty bonuses etc, could have gone to Chelsea in the summer but likely got offered a bigger signing on fee and higher wages to hold off, financially he will be far better off....