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November 30, 2017, 12:26:45 AM
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And good for us the first piece of forward thinking all season! Make no mistake mate we where on a downward spiral to the championship but aren't we to good to go down? Ffs lets dust ourselves down tighten up and get realistic, the board have done a horses for courses and I'm for it COME ON YOU BLUES
I'm not completely dismissing the relegation fear but i don't think it was a real risk. Our squad is miles better than most in the league and when we get a striker we will be fine.  Sam will do fine, but so would koeman or any other manager in time with this squad, with the addition of a forward. Believe me Sam hasn't walked into any other team before with a squad of this quality or depth.


November 30, 2017, 12:30:44 AM
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And good for us the first piece of forward thinking all season! Make no mistake mate we where on a downward spiral to the championship but aren’t we to good to go down? Ffs lets dust ourselves down tighten up and get realistic, the board have done a horses for courses and I’m for it COME ON YOU BLUES

Our relegation specialist might take charge of his first match withnus in mid table and a mere 7 points of our widely expected finishing slot, while there’s almost 2/3’s of the season still to go.

It’s not like we’re a drift with only a forlorn hope and only one man can save us. It’s hardly “forward thinking” as you claim.

We didn't have to do it now, we've chosen to. We could've chosen to do so if we'd fired Martinez at a time we were flirting with relegation. We were in similarly precarious positions when he was manager. There were points in his second and third season - further into each season than we are now - where a relegation fight looked a possibility. Roberto's grip on the squad was deteriorating, his tactics were increasingly ineffective, the vast majority of fans hated him, his purchases were poor, and we had players - even Baines(!) - in barely concealed rebellion against him. My view is a 4th season under Martinez, without Moshiri's funding, could've spelled disaster. Though, obviously we'll never know what would have happened, so I accept it's just an opinion.

We were never in danger of being relegated under Martinez and he bought well by and large on a limited budget.

Who knows where we’d have been if Moshiri had have given him access to funds Koeman enjoyed, may have a few more Lukaku and a few less Williams’s.
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November 30, 2017, 12:33:01 AM
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I really don't think we in real relegation danger. this is a knee jerk appointment. i understand the money involved is huge and maybe 9M to moshiri to protect 150M makes sense financially, it doesn't make sense on so many other levels.

poor appointment this
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November 30, 2017, 12:43:55 AM
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A chance we'd have been relegated if Moshiri hadn't come along.

Phew thank god he came in and saved us from such possibility!!!

November 30, 2017, 12:45:16 AM
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So you don't blame the owners but you blame koeman and Walsh, how does that work? Walsh is still employed by the club and by all accounts this is his work, he's loaded the club with his people and the owners are merely signing the cheques.  You cant exonerate someone who is clearly backing the person you claim to have failed the club!


Agree Walsh should have been sacked along with Koeman. Your first point I don't agree with these owners backed their manager with cash and not bullshit like the previous owner, can't see nothing wrong with that. Koeman came here with a good reputation and credentials so they backed him, Koeman's failed us by not replacing the striker and leaving us with ageing defenders, he left us with a disjointed team.
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November 30, 2017, 12:48:21 AM
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I'm not completely dismissing the relegation fear but i don't think it was a real risk. Our squad is miles better than most in the league and when we get a striker we will be fine.  Sam will do fine, but so would koeman or any other manager in time with this squad, with the addition of a forward. Believe me Sam hasn't walked into any other team before with a squad of this quality or depth.

If our team us so fucking good why are we out if two cups and one place above the relegation trap door ? Who in this team that is so good, is going to score all the goals and is going to stop the go a ls going in ?
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November 30, 2017, 12:50:53 AM
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Agree Walsh should have been sacked along with Koeman. Your first point I don't agree with these owners backed their manager with cash and not bullshit like the previous owner, can't see nothing wrong with that. Koeman came here with a good reputation and credentials so they backed him, Koeman's failed us by not replacing the striker and leaving us with ageing defenders, he left us with a disjointed team.
But there is no evidence to substantiate what you've put, our net spend is no more now than it was under pauper Kenwright, he hasn't spent anything. If anything there is more bull shit now, he spouts all the time about nearly signing every superstar under the sun to Jim White. At least under Kenwright you knew what you were getting, so far this is just loads of false dawns.

November 30, 2017, 12:54:47 AM
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didn't say it was that great, I just said there are loads worst. And also stated we needed a striker, something our board failed to deliver! We need someone to organise the defence but any manager should be able to shore that up more than it is until January, when we can address the striker issue.

November 30, 2017, 12:58:25 AM
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But there is no evidence to substantiate what you've put, our net spend is no more now than it was under pauper Kenwright, he hasn't spent anything. If anything there is more bull shit now, he spouts all the time about nearly signing every superstar under the sun to Jim White. At least under Kenwright you knew what you were getting, so far this is just loads of false dawns.


Don't know about that mate, how many times did we break our transfer record. It now stands at £45m. The list of our transfer fee's the last two or three Windows is staggering, sadly the Pl Ayers bought with it are not. We were always sell to buy under Kenwright, three failed ground moves, I could go on. You can't compare Moshiri to Kenwright surely.
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November 30, 2017, 12:58:37 AM
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Regardless of the relative merits of Allardyce, the fact that it took us 5 weeks of searching to come up with an answer to our problems as uninspiring as him, is worrying. (Not to mention the disastrous Watford/Silva episode, or the appointment of Jim White as de facto club spokesman.)

It's on par with the long and embarrassing chase of Sigurdsson, only to end up paying what had been asked in the first place.
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November 30, 2017, 01:03:49 AM
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Regardless of the relative merits of Allardyce, the fact that it took us 5 weeks of searching to come up with an answer to our problems as uninspiring as him, is worrying. (Not to mention the disastrous Watford/Silva episode.)


Agree both went on far too long, but Sigurdsson was Koeman's choice so Everton made sure they got him in the end, but overpaid far too much. As for the manager search, not defending it, but we tried for Silva and a few others, they couldn't get them in the end and things got a lot worse, so in the end they thought like a fair few other's there was no alternative. Sigh.
It's on par with the long and embarrassing chase of Sigurdsson, only to end up paying what had been asked in the first place.
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November 30, 2017, 01:04:26 AM
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Regardless of the relative merits of Allardyce, the fact that it took us 5 weeks of searching to come up with an answer to our problems as uninspiring as him, is worrying. (Not to mention the disastrous Watford/Silva episode, or the appointment of Jim White as de facto club spokesman.)

It's on par with the long and embarrassing chase of Sigurdsson, only to end up paying what had been asked in the first place.

Nah it's worse. If we'd offered Allardyce the job when he was begging for it, there's no way we'd need to pay £6m a year (if that's true) and let him call the shots around appointments like Sammy Lee. Us going back cap in hand to him is absolutely criminal in terms of how to conduct a negotiation.

November 30, 2017, 01:04:34 AM
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Don't know about that mate, how many times did we break our transfer record. It now stands at £45m. The list of our transfer fee's the last two or three Windows is staggering, sadly the Pl Ayers bought with it are not. We were always sell to buy under Kenwright, three failed ground moves, I could go on. You can't compare Moshiri to Kenwright surely.
I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job securing the new ground, but his positive involvement is more to do with his status than a financial contribution, he hasn't risked anything, all of what he has done directly benefits him, which is fair enough as he is a business man.

And Kenwright consistently broke transfer records at the club, it's all relative though. This season if things went as planned with the sale of Barkley our net spend would have been circa 10 million, he genuinely hasn't invested hardly anything

November 30, 2017, 01:08:23 AM
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We're starting to remind me of pompy and qpr. All the gear no idea

November 30, 2017, 01:28:11 AM
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We just got pretty much dry bummed didn’t we. Only a smidgeon of gravy for lube.
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