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November 10, 2017, 04:12:44 AM
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He's rubbish. Anyone would look good in that team.


November 19, 2017, 03:18:15 AM
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Yeah, even though none of us really have any idea, let's just blame Moshiri for everything. Perhaps we can boo him at our next game and all chip in for a plane. Because if there's anything this club needs right now, it's for the fans to turn on our owner and for our owner to decide to fuck off, leaving us well and truly fucked.

November 19, 2017, 01:45:54 PM
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No-one is turning on him. It’s reasonable to question his impact on the club since his arrival but once you do that it throws up more doubts than answers. Let’s be honest about it.

For sure. Perhaps I misinterpreted your post saying "how do we tell our boss he's the main reason things have gone tits up". I don't think the fans trying to convey that to Moshiri will help, at all.


November 19, 2017, 05:01:41 PM
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I was referring to people within the club. How do you attempt to have a full debrief of how and why things have gone wrong when the guy chairing the meeting at the head of the table is a large part of the problem with his decision-making, in a subject matter he knows very little about.

This isn't a witch hunt against Moshiri by any means but from the outside looking in it looks like he's following a path many chairman and fans of the game fall into when they get control of a football club for the first time, which is to make hasty decisions on the playing side based on their limited knowledge of the game as a fan.


Fair enough. It's the same at any organisation really though, when things go wrong the people at the top are often partly if not wholly responsible. In the absence of oversight, you have to hope that there is enough openness within those individuals to admit mistakes and be willing to find solutions.

It's interesting because although Moshiri is our largest shareholder, he neither sits on the Board, nor is he Chairman or CEO of Everton. They're all ultimately accountable to him but I imagine will be far more involved in the day to day running of the club than him. Likelihood is that some people on the Board will have had much more influence over him than others in terms of key decisions, and so any analysis of what needs to change will quickly become political as people look to deflect blame and protect their position. My guess is that governance is a real issue at EFC, particularly when you consider our rather unusual ownership structure. That's likely the bigger challenge in successfully figuring this all out, and it's far more nuanced than simply pinning all the blame for bad decisions on Moshiri.


November 29, 2017, 11:55:09 PM
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What a false dawn this guy's reign has been so far! 

We were a solid if unspectacular club with good foundations, he's come in, spent a tonne and now we are an absolute shambles of a club.  His staff appointments have been horrendous, Walsh seems to have been a total disaster, Koeman likewise, and now we're faced with Alardyce and Sammy Lee coming in!  We've gone from being 'The People's Club' to appointing a manager 90% of the fan base do not want here, with an assistant 100% of the fan base don't want here.

If you take over a business that's running solidly, even if it's treading water, and within a short period of time it's a mess and performing far worse then there's only one person to blame, the man who took over the business. 

We are a mess, a shambles and I have very little faith in the new stadium coming off if his time in charge has been anything to go by!

Nonsense. We were rapidly falling apart with Martinez as manager and a Chairman that may not have fired him till it was too late.

A chance we'd have been relegated if Moshiri hadn't come along.

November 30, 2017, 12:21:53 AM
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We’ve just drafted in a “relegation specialist” something we’d never had to do before this fella arrived.

We didn't have to do it now, we've chosen to. We could've chosen to do so if we'd fired Martinez at a time we were flirting with relegation. We were in similarly precarious positions when he was manager. There were points in his second and third season - further into each season than we are now - where a relegation fight looked a possibility. Roberto's grip on the squad was deteriorating, his tactics were increasingly ineffective, the vast majority of fans hated him, his purchases were poor, and we had players - even Baines(!) - in barely concealed rebellion against him. My view is a 4th season under Martinez, without Moshiri's funding, could've spelled disaster. Though, obviously we'll never know what would have happened, so I accept it's just an opinion.


November 30, 2017, 01:04:26 AM
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Regardless of the relative merits of Allardyce, the fact that it took us 5 weeks of searching to come up with an answer to our problems as uninspiring as him, is worrying. (Not to mention the disastrous Watford/Silva episode, or the appointment of Jim White as de facto club spokesman.)

It's on par with the long and embarrassing chase of Sigurdsson, only to end up paying what had been asked in the first place.

Nah it's worse. If we'd offered Allardyce the job when he was begging for it, there's no way we'd need to pay £6m a year (if that's true) and let him call the shots around appointments like Sammy Lee. Us going back cap in hand to him is absolutely criminal in terms of how to conduct a negotiation.

December 01, 2017, 05:33:53 AM
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...............well it happened at least once  nod

Everton 0 Bolton 4: Bolton’s bullies thrash Everton
Jonathan Northcroft at Goodison Park
December 18 2005,
The Sunday Times
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In the away section the scene was utterly different. Sam Allardyce has brought Bolton supporters much to enjoy over the years, but seldom an afternoon of such merriment. “We want five” they sang, “easy” they chanted, “going down,” was their goading conclusion. Everton should have enough quality to avoid the last becoming a prophecy but, after two home defeats in four days, their revival is over.

They collapsed in the closing stages, buckling under Bolton’s unique way of exerting pressure. Allardyce’s side spent the first half softening up their opponents. Everton are supposed to be robust, but they were bashed out of shape by a gang of bullies led by burly Kevin Davies, who forced Bolton ahead after half an hour.

I hardly think anyone is going to be impressed by beating us by a four goal margin these days.