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November 24, 2017, 04:18:27 PM
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Some questions in the media...


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/moshiri-latest-rich-owner-to-struggle-with-his-new-toy-cx8kn8dpz

MATT DICKINSON

The first time I met Farhad Moshiri was an odd encounter. It was October 2007 and a group of journalists were being taken out to Moscow, on a private jet (not mine), to meet Alisher Usmanov to discuss his reasons for purchasing a stake in Arsenal.

Moshiri was on the flight, though it was never really explained why as he ushered us on board. We gleaned that the one-time accountant was deeply involved in Usmanov’s company Metalloinvest, and also a football fan, but the idea that we were sitting next to a future Premier League club owner rather than a very over-qualified travel guide never occurred.

It was a strange introduction, not quite knowing what Moshiri was about. And the more we have seen at Everton over recent months the more my curiosity has returned.

What on earth is happening at Goodison Park? The fans — and more than one rival club who have dealt with them over business — have asked the same question with a growing sense of bewilderment at the league table and a chaotic managerial search compounded by last night’s Europa League embarrassment at the hands of Atalanta.

The simple answer is the very familiar teething problems of football club ownership. Everton are definitely not Queens Park Rangers, but seeing Moshiri reminds me a little of the early years of Tony Fernandes; promising the world — including a new stadium, global ambitions — but first delivering some expensive mistakes.

Both are eager to please, working media contacts in the hope of popularity as well as points, having built vast personal fortunes through graft and clever networking. They possess plenty of charm.

Both are undoubted enthusiasts, with big dreams and a child-like thrill in their train sets, but the main question that fans are right to ask is: what do they know of football? This especially matters when these owners are extremely hands-on over some key decisions while also trying to juggle their many businesses and investments, with the inevitable result that a few balls are dropped, damagingly.

They want the thrill of being involved, mixing with football people which is so much more interesting than the price of oil, but where does that leave a club’s experts, the professionals? We may well ask when Moshiri has personally led a managerial search that, more than a month after the sacking of Ronald Koeman, appears to be back where it started.

This week Everton received a cease and desist letter from Watford’s lawyers, demanding that the pursuit of Marco Silva be immediately called off — or else. But it should not have needed such a threat.

Did Moshiri really think that Watford, even if offered £10 million or more, could afford to let their manager walk out in November? Who does he think he is, Watford may well ask, looking down from the top half of the table at a club such as Everton who were wrong to take the side of the “big six” in the recent argument over sharing broadcast income.

Four points in the past two games have lifted Everton out of the bottom three but, especially after last night’s 5-1 capitulation, league fixtures against Southampton and West Ham United will be approached with very fragile confidence when the caretaker manager, David Unsworth, lurches from game to game.

Where to turn next? Steve Walsh was recruited from Leicester City as director of football but there are those at Goodison Park who question the accuracy of that title. Directing what, exactly?

Walsh is understood to have wanted Sam Allardyce, but that hardly fits Moshiri’s early proclamation: “For our club to compete in the northwest of England, which is the new Hollywood of football with [Pep] Guardiola, [José] Mourinho, [Jürgen] Klopp, we needed a star to stand on the touchline, so I got Koeman.” To reject Big Sam, then to have to go back to him, is not exactly the glamour that Moshiri had in mind?

Bill Kenwright, the chairman since 2004, will have his own thoughts but it is Moshiri who, these days, expects to call the shots. A rich owner grappling with his new toy, struggling to assert the control that he is used to in business, is not a new phenomenon. To glance down the road on Merseyside is to recall Fenway Sports Group’s false starts with Damien Comolli as director of football and Kenny Dalglish’s brief return to the dugout.

But it still comes as a shock at Everton, given how so much money was spent, the £75 million fee for Romelu Lukaku and much more besides, as Moshiri sought to demonstrate his ambition this summer. Everton had everything but a strategy (and a new striker).

Long-term, fees for Jordan Pickford, Michael Keane and Ademola Lookman may come to look decent value, but on a checklist of classic owner mistakes — overspending (Gylfi Sigurdsson at £45 million), gathering a bloated squad (Davy Klaassen at £25 million) and signings of heart over head (Wayne Rooney on big wages) — Moshiri ticks every box.

They want the thrill of being involved, mixing with football people which is so much more interesting than the price of oil.

Having a big squad of senior players makes even less sense at a club that, rightly, tries to take great pride in developing its own.

Beginner’s mistakes? Moshiri once held shares at Arsenal, selling them back to Usmanov to fund his purchase of Everton, and he has been at Goodison Park since March 2016, with his 49.9 per cent stake bought for £87.5 million.

He is still working his way to full ownership of the club, probably in the next 18 months, according to insiders who say that he is determined to see through his grand plans, including a new stadium.

There are assurances that his wealth, including the Everton investment, is independently established. This came under questioning with the announcement at the annual meeting in January that USM, the investment company for Usmanov’s vast holdings in Russian mining and metals, and digital corporations, would sponsor the Finch Farm training ground.

Questions over the depth of his business ties with Usmanov were reawakened through the recent leak of the Paradise Papers. Long before our trip to Russia, Moshiri had worked principally with and for Usmanov, managing the investment of his fortune, but there is an insistence that respective interests in Arsenal and Everton for the two men are entirely separated.

While frustrated for years over opaqueness in the ownership, most Everton fans will simply hope that in a billionaire owner who has also covered the club’s debts, they have a man with the means to take them higher.

Moshiri has certainly shown a commitment to spend but, as a wretched campaign has demonstrated, throwing money around is the easy part of ownership for a rich man. The harder challenge is to know your limits not in wealth but knowledge. If he had asked around, someone could have told Moshiri that sacking your manager without a clue what happens next is not a great plan.
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November 25, 2017, 01:38:48 AM
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People still comparing us to City are prime candidates for emails off Nigerian princes with banking difficulties.
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November 25, 2017, 02:57:36 AM
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Not that I think we’re anything like City but that’s a pretty poor attempt at humour mate. Even for a Friday evening.

How much did you or one of the family members lose?
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November 26, 2017, 01:54:44 AM
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Lol yeah.

The board needs a reshuffle. Our club is a mess from top to bottom at the moment

Moshiri has appointed 4 of the 6 board members, not going to be any reshuffle anytime soon.

Edit. As Alan say above^
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November 30, 2017, 12:07:50 AM
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Nonsense. We were rapidly falling apart with Martinez as manager and a Chairman that may not have fired him till it was too late.

A chance we'd have been relegated if Moshiri hadn't come along.

We’ve just drafted in a “relegation specialist” something we’d never had to do before this fella arrived.
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November 30, 2017, 12:30:44 AM
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And good for us the first piece of forward thinking all season! Make no mistake mate we where on a downward spiral to the championship but aren’t we to good to go down? Ffs lets dust ourselves down tighten up and get realistic, the board have done a horses for courses and I’m for it COME ON YOU BLUES

Our relegation specialist might take charge of his first match withnus in mid table and a mere 7 points of our widely expected finishing slot, while there’s almost 2/3’s of the season still to go.

It’s not like we’re a drift with only a forlorn hope and only one man can save us. It’s hardly “forward thinking” as you claim.

We didn't have to do it now, we've chosen to. We could've chosen to do so if we'd fired Martinez at a time we were flirting with relegation. We were in similarly precarious positions when he was manager. There were points in his second and third season - further into each season than we are now - where a relegation fight looked a possibility. Roberto's grip on the squad was deteriorating, his tactics were increasingly ineffective, the vast majority of fans hated him, his purchases were poor, and we had players - even Baines(!) - in barely concealed rebellion against him. My view is a 4th season under Martinez, without Moshiri's funding, could've spelled disaster. Though, obviously we'll never know what would have happened, so I accept it's just an opinion.

We were never in danger of being relegated under Martinez and he bought well by and large on a limited budget.

Who knows where we’d have been if Moshiri had have given him access to funds Koeman enjoyed, may have a few more Lukaku and a few less Williams’s.
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December 02, 2017, 05:40:19 AM
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Good point and why would/should he? He’s not a fan and if I had a billion I wouldn’t put a penny of my own cash into the club either...and I am a fan.

But surely it raises a concern for people who often say “it’s not my money I’m not worried”?

Given it’s not his money and we’ve obviously been wasting an awful lot it since he came on board?

Just seems a bit odd not to care about the finances because they’re the lifeblood of the club.
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March 02, 2018, 06:13:23 PM
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Clearly somebody didn’t see the Panorama special featuring our ambiguous ownership.
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March 02, 2018, 06:25:38 PM
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I. Certainly did, why do you ask ? From what I recall the outcome was no case to answer or do you know something that we don’t ?

So you’ll recall that the accountancy firm that performed the extensive due diligence that you’re talking about was bought by Usmanov.

Nothing dodgy about that is there....especially after paying his lapdog £300m for shares in a company he’d actually given to him a few years earlier. No nothing strange going on there...
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March 03, 2018, 08:52:19 PM
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Any accountant that tells you not to be concerned about money needs disbarring or certifying.
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June 06, 2019, 06:31:10 PM
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https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1136589231093100544?

Can’t be far from being able to hoover up all the minor shares can he?
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June 06, 2019, 07:18:13 PM
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..................Moshiri has said in the past he has no wish to buy out small shareholders . He hasn't bought BK's 5% either ,which is disappointing but unsurprising .

If he bought Kenwrights remaining shares would that tip him over the edge to make an obligatory offer to the remaining shareholders?
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June 07, 2019, 02:38:42 AM
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Is there any tangible reason to give a fuck that Moshiri has increased his shares?


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A step closer to total control?
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