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November 24, 2017, 02:48:33 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


No I'll still agree. As I've acknowledged, how it is implemented will be the test, but I'm glad something more concrete is starting to be done about diving. Might take a while to get it right.

Well we are 120 games into the season and they've caught 1. Either English football has absolutely no problem with diving or it's not being implemented


November 24, 2017, 02:53:41 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


Is the rule just penalties? Just major decisions? So someone can repeatedly dive to gain control of a game but so long as there's not a single major decision for it it's okay
It's all a bit of a nonsense. If they are gonna do this. Look at every single 1 and ban the lot. Again we've had 120 games this season. They clearly aren't applying the rule

November 24, 2017, 03:10:27 AM
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Lxxx


We are one of the bigger clubs though, relative to the league average.

I tend to think we get the rub of the green more often than not in refs' decisions. Can think of far more times we've got lucky with a decision rather than massive injustices in the last couple years.

We're not and we don't.


November 24, 2017, 04:07:13 AM
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arteta4spain


So I hope the club will be banging on the door of the fa every time someone like Alli, Sanchez et al get away with a dive. Knowing us we’ll get a fine for having a go at the fa.
Hate this part of the game. It’s corrupt as fuck.

November 24, 2017, 04:55:35 PM
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Macca77


Phil Neville on MOTD "Its a dive and he should be banned"

Phil Neville on Sky Sports - http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11140934/phil-neville-thinks-oumar-niasses-two-game-ban-for-diving-is-a-disgrace

November 24, 2017, 05:14:54 PM
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Escla

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Phil Neville on MOTD "Its a dive and he should be banned"

Phil Neville on Sky Sports - http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11140934/phil-neville-thinks-oumar-niasses-two-game-ban-for-diving-is-a-disgrace

What an absolute whopper that man is ! Unbelievable, then he goes on to say "this won't stop him from diving again" not this won't stop any other player diving.


November 24, 2017, 07:40:06 PM
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Jimmywhack

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Just downloaded the PDF from the FA into why they upheld the ban even though the ref on a second viewing again concluded it was a pen.

 1. These are the written reasons for a decision made by an Independent
 Regulatory Commission which sat at on Wednesday 22th November 2017.

 2. The Commission members were Mr. S. Ripley (Chairman), Mr. P. Raven
 and Mr. M. Johnson.

 3. Mr. M. Ives of the FA Judicial Services Department acted as Secretary to
 the Regulatory Commission.

 4. Mr. Niasse was charged by The FA with misconduct for a breach of FA Rule
 E3. The FA alleged that, in or around the 5th minute of the Crystal Palace
 FC v Everton FC, Premier League Fixture on 18th November 2017, Mr
Niasse committed a clear act of simulation which led to a penalty being
 awarded and that his behaviour amounted to improper conduct.

 5. Mr Niasse denied the charge by way of The FA’s Disciplinary Proceedings
 Reply Form, dated 21st November 2017 and requested that
 documentation be put before the Regulatory Commission.

 6. The FA relied on Email correspondence between Mr. N. Dutton of the FA’s
 Regulation Department and the three Simulation Panel Members, dated
 20th
 November 2017; the Guidance for Panel Members; and Video clips of
 the incident.

 7. Everton FC submitted a letter from Mr David Harrison, Club Secretary and
 Head of Football Operations, dated 21st November 2017 and a witness
 statement from Mr Niasse, dated 21st November 2017 both of which the
 Commission noted the contents of and footage of the incident from
 various different angles as to that submitted by the FA.

 8. The Commission noted the comments of the Premier League Delegate
 whose report on the Match Officials was contained within the
 documentation submitted by Everton FC who wrote: “The glaring example of
 simulation was the penalty award on 4 mins against Palace. In my view, Everton’s
Niasse has dived to earn his team a penalty and Mr Taylor was successfully deceived. I
 accept there was contact made by Palace’s Dann. However the contact made is
 minimal – certainly not enough to make Niasse fall to the ground in the way he did”.

9. For the avoidance of doubt the Commission also considered the point
 submitted by the Club that Mr Taylor, (the Match Referee), “reiterated his
 view that he had made the right call because of the contact made.”

10.In contrast the Commission also noted that the Simulations Panel was
 composed of an experienced manager and ex-player, another experienced
 ex-player and an experienced ex-referee who all came to the conclusion
 that Mr Niasse had committed an act of simulation.

 11.The Commission considered the written guidance provided to the Panel
 Members which read as follows:
 For a panel member to conclude that simulation has occurred they must
 conclude that there is clear and overwhelming evidence.
 In judging these incidents, there are five key questions that should be
 considered in the decision-making process.
 To identify whether an act of simulation has occurred, the following should be
 considered:
 1. Is there contact between the players involved? Simulation is more likely in
 cases where a player attempts to deceive the referee when no contact
 occurred between the palyers.
 2. Is there fair/normal contact between the players, resulting in no offence
 being committed?
 3. Is a player legitimately avoiding contact with his opponent to prevent
 injury?
 4. Has the player initiated the contact between his opponent and himself in
 order to deceive the referee/
 5. Does the player exaggerate the effect of a normal contact challenge in
 order to deceive the referee?

 12. The Commission were unanimous that the video footage gave clear and
 overwhelming evidence that the player had exaggerated the effect of a
 normal contact in order to deceive the referee.

 13. The Commission noted that there was contact between Scott Dann and
 Mr Niasse but the Commission considered the contact to be normal, fair
 and expected contact in the situation that arose with Mr Niasse ‘taking on’
Mr Dann.

 14. The Commission unanimously agree that the nature of the contact made
 by Scott Dan was minimal in nature and would not have thrown Mr Niasse
 off balance and knock him down in the way that Mr Niasse portrayed it to
 have done.

 15. To the minds of the Commission members the movements of Mr Niasse’s
 body, in particular the arching of the back and the collapsing of both legs,
 were simply not consistent with the amount of force exerted upon him by
 Mr Dann and in exaggerating the effect of the contact made between
 himself and Mr Dann, Mr Niasse deceived the referee and this led to a
 penalty being awarded by the referee.

 16. As such the FA charge brought against Mr Niasse for simulation is found
 proven and therefore Mr Niasse will serve an automatic 2 match
 suspension.

 17.This decision is final and binding and not subject to any further right of
 appeal.

 Stuart Ripley
 Regulatory Commission Chairman 22nd November 201
Simply simply lovely

November 24, 2017, 07:52:05 PM
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Cereal Killer


Sigh, as expected a load of crap based on conjecture and personal opinion of the people involved, leaving it clearly open for the exact same incident to go unpunished next week

November 24, 2017, 07:52:27 PM
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Macca77


What a load of bollocks

November 24, 2017, 07:54:24 PM
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ally2


I like how they call him 'Mr Niasse'

November 24, 2017, 07:54:48 PM
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brap2

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How nailed on is it that some cunt goes down like a sack of shit at anfield in a few weeks ey
I knew that someday I was going to die, and I knew that before I died, two things would happen to me. That number one; I would regret my entire life, and number two; that I would want to live my life over again.

November 24, 2017, 07:55:59 PM
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Cereal Killer


Oh, and over ruling the ref, despite him rewatching and still saying he'd give a pen. Will the FA discipline him for his quite blatant incompetence then??

November 24, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
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Lxxx


Let's not bother with a ref now hey. Let's just have a kick around and then whatever the score ends up we'll work backwards from there and see what infringements were committed on video to come to the right result, until we get the big 6 all at the top of the league.

November 24, 2017, 08:24:20 PM
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arteta4spain


How nailed on is it that some cunt goes down like a sack of shit at anfield in a few weeks ey
Calling it now either one of us will get fouled in the box not be awarded a stone wall pen and get done for simulation. Or they'll go down without contact like they've been shot and they'll get a pen and we'll get a subsequent red card. Fuck it tempted to lob some serious money on that!

November 24, 2017, 08:31:04 PM
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bacon sarnie


Sweet FA.