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December 11, 2017, 01:49:20 AM
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Agreed a new long term contract


December 11, 2017, 01:54:20 AM
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howard1334


Be interesting to see what happens when Coleman comes back.

I'd put Coleman back in just because he marshals that flank like no other full back and would give us an extra dimension going forward.

However, I think Kenny is a much better defender than Coleman and that might tempt allardyce to keep him in.

Seriously, he hasn't been beaten once and the way he defends that far post is incredible.

We do this every time with young players. Coleman should and will start once he is healthy, assuming, of course, that his injury has not caused his ability to regress considerably.
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December 11, 2017, 01:54:31 AM
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Kenny has done great but he's not worth keeping Coleman away from RB.

Said it before but I'd convert him (back) to CB.

Far to small.

He’s almost half a Holgate.
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December 11, 2017, 01:58:29 AM
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We do this every time with young players. Coleman should and will start once he is healthy, assuming, of course, that his injury has not caused his ability to regress considerably.

Yes, i didn't say otherwise.


December 11, 2017, 02:00:20 AM
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howard1334


Yes, i didn't say otherwise.



You suggested Big Sam might consider starting Kenny over Coleman. Which he won't barring complications with Coleman's recovery.

December 11, 2017, 02:02:43 AM
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You suggested Big Sam might consider starting Kenny over Coleman. Which he won't barring complications with Coleman's recovery.

Considering the importance allardyce puts on defence and work off the ball I think it's fair to say he will consider keeping Kenny in.

He'd be silly not to.


December 11, 2017, 02:09:51 AM
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Considering the importance allardyce puts on defence and work off the ball I think it's fair to say he will consider keeping Kenny in.

He'd be silly not to.

I certainly think it will be easier to ease Coleman back in than say Baines who despite being on the decline is still going to play the minute he has functioning limbs

December 11, 2017, 02:23:41 AM
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MOTM today, loved his attitude, also played really well.
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December 11, 2017, 02:42:43 AM
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kramer0


Loved him yelling after Rooney’s goal.

Great defensive performance, as well.

December 11, 2017, 02:43:42 AM
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The Analog Kid


Can he play LB?

December 11, 2017, 02:59:35 AM
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Juanito


Can he play LB?

Surely better than Martina there

December 11, 2017, 03:02:55 AM
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Considering the importance allardyce puts on defence and work off the ball I think it's fair to say he will consider keeping Kenny in.

He'd be silly not to.

Then you are, in fact, suggesting otherwise. And you are, like we all have before when evaluating young players, undervaluing Coleman and overvaluing Kenny. The same thing happened in the cases of Oviedo, Garbutt, and Galloway when Baines had to miss games in the past, and with Holgate when Coleman missed games in the past.

I actually do think that Kenny is a better prospect than Oviedo, Garbutt, Galloway, or Holgate (at outside back). But you are making pretty huge claims based off of Kenny's very small sample size of work. And seemingly forgetting how great Coleman is (both going forward and on the defensive side of the ball). Otherwise, I can't see how you could justify your pretty crazy suggestion that Big Sam will actually hesitate to play Coleman (one of the top 3 RBs in the prem over the last 5+ years) over Kenny (a 20-year old with around 12 starts to his name).
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December 11, 2017, 06:12:54 AM
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Then you are, in fact, suggesting otherwise. And you are, like we all have before when evaluating young players, undervaluing Coleman and overvaluing Kenny. The same thing happened in the cases of Oviedo, Garbutt, and Galloway when Baines had to miss games in the past, and with Holgate when Coleman missed games in the past.

I actually do think that Kenny is a better prospect than Oviedo, Garbutt, Galloway, or Holgate (at outside back). But you are making pretty huge claims based off of Kenny's very small sample size of work. And seemingly forgetting how great Coleman is (both going forward and on the defensive side of the ball). Otherwise, I can't see how you could justify your pretty crazy suggestion that Big Sam will actually hesitate to play Coleman (one of the top 3 RBs in the prem over the last 5+ years) over Kenny (a 20-year old with around 12 starts to his name).

I think he just means that Sam 'may' like the stability of keeping the back line the same, rather than bed Coleman in when he comes back from injury, as Kenny hasn't done anything to deserve being dropped.

Top marks for proper overcomplicating it though. 
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December 11, 2017, 07:41:36 AM
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Anyone forget Coleman’s poor form for several months prior to his injury?
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December 11, 2017, 12:09:46 PM
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Anyone forget Coleman's poor form for several months prior to his injury?
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