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January 08, 2018, 02:49:00 PM
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There you go again, responding to polite queries in your trademark patronising tone. For what itís worth I be.ive that our target is to finish as high in the table as possible.

Mate, you have utterly misread that entire conversation.

Obviously you missed the original point, which is fair enough - the written word can be a bit vague sometimes. No issues there. BD explained it in pretty simple terms and you asked for  further clarification. There was no clearer he could have been so he stated that.
You've then inferred condecension in a response that contained none because of your opinion on who wrote it.

FWIW, BD has raised the first balanced point i've seen about Allardyce. As long as we agree to become proponants of the man if he meets our targets.

Finish as high as we can in the league? Yeah, true. But 7th playing dinosaur football with tried & tested players or 8th whilst bedding in the kids and making mistakes whilst teaching them a more expansive style?
I'd take the £750k hit (or whatever it is for a single league place nowadays)


February 13, 2018, 07:11:39 PM
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To be fair to @bogie , his theory is the only thing that makes that arsenal team selection/tactics make any sense to me.

Cause it fucking baffled me at the time.

February 14, 2018, 02:49:13 PM
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I thought he meant Benoit and didnt want to post about it.  Al Snow makes more sense.

spat my coffee out laughing at that, ya prick hahaha


February 26, 2018, 04:23:36 PM
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French report:
http://www.france24.com/en/20180225-englishman-lookman-shines-but-leipzig-crash-lowly-cologne

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Ademola Lookman created a goal but RB Leipzig squandered the chance to go second in the Bundesliga on Sunday after crashing to a 2-1 defeat at home to bottom side Cologne.

Lookman, an England Under-21 winger on loan from Everton, shone during his 59 minutes, hitting the post in the move that led to the opening goal on five minutes at Leipzigís Red Bull Arena.

When Portugal international Bruma crossed to the far post, Lookman, 20, nudged the ball onto the woodwork and French striker Jean-Kevin Augustin tapped home the rebound.


Who Scored only gave him a rating of 6.7 though.
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1202122/Live/Germany-Bundesliga-2017-2018-RasenBallsport-Leipzig-FC-Cologne


(referred to both of the above by the Echo)

May 14, 2018, 02:45:14 PM
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We have absolutely nothing here for him.

He's played for a club a level above us and smashed it.

They'll be wanting to make the move permanent and I suspect some elite level teams may become interested.

We stole a march on a lot of teams because we were supposed to offer a better pathway for him to play.

Now we haven't offered him that, what's here for him?

Only hope is a new manager gets hold of him and makes him an integral player for next season.

Build the team around him, Walcott and Sigurdsson.

The possibility of that attacking 3 behind a finisher actually gets me a bit excited.
Get a player in who can pass his way out of trouble to sit next to (and be protected by) Gana and all of a sudden it crashes me right back into despondency about how shit this season has been.

May 14, 2018, 03:23:58 PM
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Oh how we love a youngster. Let's not overreact here. Hearing comments around building a team around him... He's had a few good games in a lesser league and some people are talking about him like a world beater. Don't forget that aside from a few decent cameos he was largely shite in blue. Now he might have potential, and I think there's a player in there for sure... But to expect him to come straight into the team and be a big player is optimistic to say the least.

Fair point. But i think the general feeling (mine, certainly) is more that his 'potential' looks to be greater than anybody we could reasonably attract.
Added to that the 2 men in there with him are seasoned professionals at their pomp and both easily clever enough to make up for Lookmans youthful exuberance causing mistakes?
The potential gains far than make up for the short-term inexperience based mistakes he will put in a lot of the time.


May 14, 2018, 08:07:45 PM
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We need coaches that can help provide young players with the tools they need to get to that next level.

How many players have we seen show plenty of promise initially only to stall badly and get swept aside? Thatís a coaching problem. Weíve seen a lot of young players get the early bump in quality that comes from playing regular games but itís no surprise that nobodyís getting to that next level when theyíre learning from pretenders like Martinez and dinosaurs like Koeman and Allardyce.

We missed a great chance when we passed on Favre two summers ago. Say what you want about him actually winning things but heís a quality manager when it comes to player development and we could have used that with all the young talent we had in/around the first team at the time.

Davies is a shining light by way of an example.

Fans of other clubs have started calling him a yard-dog to me. Any decent manager bring him on.
What we had, however, was him getting thrown to the wolves and ran into the ground.

Our fans willingness to write players like Keane off all contributes to our club being a terrible place for people to learn their game at the moment.

June 10, 2018, 10:40:12 PM
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I'd be happy to give Lookman 6 months and if he's still not doing it, buy an upgrade in the winter.

That means we can focus on other areas of the team given we don't have a ton of time left.


Reckon I could get on board with this.
Happy for him and Vlasic to share that spot till Jan 1st.

June 13, 2018, 05:53:27 PM
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Yeah it's a bit offensive in fairness, dude. I know you're just meaning to make a point about Schneiderlin.

But it's really quite unfair on the French, this whole myth of their cowardice. They fought very bravely in both wars, and had we had a land border with Nazi Germany we'd have been steamrollered.

http://theconversation.com/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys-its-time-to-give-the-french-army-the-credit-it-deserves-81853

Whilst agreeing with your entire point, if we had a land border with any continental power then our land army would have been significantly deeper than the BEF was.

In fact, i'm off to find if anybody has written any alt-fiction about the English channel being a land bridge because the world would be a very different place if it was.

July 05, 2018, 05:58:59 PM
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What does "disableist " mean, or "disablist " ? My English is usually pretty good and I have never come across this term before. It is not in my dictionary so is it some sort of modern invention, new in vogue expression or whatever? Or, in plain anglo-saxon, what the fuck does it mean? 

Same root as ageist, racist and sexist. The 'ist' denotes you are prejudiced against the thing that sits in front of it.

Disablism is a thing. It's not something that has happened in here like, but it is deffo a thing.