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January 17, 2018, 09:44:25 PM
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GK: Pickford
RB: Kenny
CB: Holgate
CB: Keane
LB: Baines
DM: Gana
CM: Rooney
CM: Davies
RAM: Walcott/Bolasie/Lennon (genuinely don't care)
CF: Calvert-Lewin
LAM: Sigurdsson

There's enough younger players in there to develop (Pickford, Kenny, Holgate, Keane, Davies, Calvert-Lewin), there's enough experience in there to prop them up (I think -- if Holgate-Keane doesn't work out, we can easily drop Keane for Jagielka or Williams), and that's our only midfield configuration that has shown any signs of being functional. Sub Vlasic or Lookman into the right attacking mid slot at the 60' mark if we're up 2 goals or more for some extra player development.

I get that Gana, Rooney, and Davies have all picked up injuries over the past month but I have no idea why Allardyce deviated from this basic blueprint. We played some watchable, effective football with that team shape and mix in midfield. And we actually scored goals too, even though the attacking lineup wasn't particularly good.

Of course, that's not what we're going to do, as evidenced by the Tosun signing and the grumblings about Cresswell and N'Zonzi.

All Allardyce/Walsh/the rest of the small army of people working on transfers needed to do to get us over the line comfortably this season and put us in a good position for the future is sign (1) a promising, young left back to get Martina out of the team and rotate with Baines, and (2) a good, progressive midfield passer to replace/rotate with Rooney, who can't play all the minutes we need him to.

Instead, we've signed two older attackers to take minutes away from Calvert-Lewin, Lookman, and Vlasic and we've phased out Davies (I don't give a fuck about form, he's still more useful than McCarthy or Schneiderlin). Putting aside the actual cost of the players we've signed, there's also the opportunity cost of holding back the development of players with demonstrated potential to be a part of something good here in the future. (And yes, the main thing all younger players need to improve is competitive first-team matches; nobody improves significantly from the bench or stands.)

Is any of what we've done worth it to be good value for 7th or 8th place for a season or two? No.

In a year or two, we're going to be buried under a mountain of expensive players in decline with fuck all to show for it.

\end{grumpy bastard rant}


January 19, 2018, 02:07:04 AM
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I'm bored so here's a 4-4-2 hoof ball lineup.

GK: Pickford
RB: Coleman
CB: Holgate
CB: Williams
LB: Baines
RM: Lennon
CM: Gana
CM: McCarthy
LM: Sigurdsson
CF: Tosun
CF: Walcott

The strategy is simple -- everyone defends, we hardly pass the ball at all (which is good because imagine that midfield trying to pass), Tosun tries to find Walcott with flick-ons (better than having Rooney chase them).

January 22, 2018, 06:24:18 AM
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Been thinking about this. Taking another crack at it, somewhat seriously.

GK: Pickford
RB: Kenny
CB: Holgate
CB: Keane (or anyone but Williams)
LB: Martina (please come back, Baines)
DM: Gana
CM: Davies
CM: Sigurdsson or Rooney (Rooney much better for passing from deep but we can make either work... maybe)
RW: Walcott
CF: Tosun
LW: Vlasic

Defense mostly picks itself (Holgate's partner -- what to do?). Gana is there to stay put and tackle/intercept everything that comes near him, his best role. Davies and Vlasic are there for ball progression (via dribbling) and retention (both decent at holding it in tight spaces) and also winning fouls. Walcott, Tosun, and Sigurdsson/Rooney are the "finishers," the players we need to make the final pass/shot.

I went for Vlasic over Bolasie/Lookman because, while those two are unquestionably better dribblers, they're also total wild cards who are just as likely to give the ball away as they are to pull off a bit of magic. Vlasic isn't as explosive but there's a premeditation to his game that those two lack and that's what I want in the team. He doesn't need to do anything special, just hold off pressure and help us inch forward.

Probably still shit but that's what you get when you buy a bunch of individuals with no regard for how they fit together. It's hard to find a way to get from defense/midfield to the final third, as evidenced by the fact that I'm hypothetically asking Davies and Vlasic to shoulder a lot of that.