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January 28, 2018, 05:10:48 PM
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All paying shitloads of tax to keep our public services going (in theory)
If only that were true.


January 28, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
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Top 10 Premier League clubs:

Team   Avg. Annual Wage.         Avg. Weekly Wage
Man Utd.   £5,241,185 ($6,813,541)   £100,792 ($131,030)
Man City   £5,235,917 ($6,806,692)   £100,691 ($130,898)
Chelsea   £4,451,200 ($5,786,560)   £85,600 ($111,280)
Arsenal   £4,037,222 ($5,248,389)   £77,639 ($100,931)
Liverpool   £3,649,862 ($4,744,821)   £70,190 ($91,247)
Tottenham   £3,154,667 ($4,101,067   £60,667 ($78,867)
West Ham   £2,936,870 ($3,817,930)   £56,478 ($73,422)
Everton   £2,806,207 ($3,648,069)   £53,966 ($70,155)
Leicester   £2,499,120 ($3,248,856)   £48,060 ($62,478)
S'hampton   £2,271,286 ($2,952,671)

January 28, 2018, 05:56:13 PM
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If only that were true.
They pay a fuck load of tax... Trust me
It's the roll I way


January 28, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
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They pay a fuck load of tax... Trust me

Do you have any evidence of this, Bally?

I'm inclined to believe otherwise. There are a lot of player-owned companies that don't appear to do anything, so I suspect they exist solely for tax avoidance reasons (I have no proof of this, but, given the amount of money we're talking about, it's likely.)

January 28, 2018, 07:16:46 PM
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A thread of outrage over guessed salaries and tax avoidance schemes which may or may not exist.

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January 28, 2018, 07:56:38 PM
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Do you have any evidence of this, Bally?

I'm inclined to believe otherwise. There are a lot of player-owned companies that don't appear to do anything, so I suspect they exist solely for tax avoidance reasons (I have no proof of this, but, given the amount of money we're talking about, it's likely.)

They pay 45% tax on the monthly basic wage. Its the bonuses and image rights where the dodgy tax work comes into play but they are PAYE on basic wage. Hence why spurs deal with a lower basic pay but high performance/image bonus.
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January 28, 2018, 08:00:36 PM
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All paying shitloads of tax to keep our public services going (in theory)
Isle Of Man?
I still despise Clive Thomas..

January 28, 2018, 09:25:34 PM
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montanatoffeefan


As I've said a few time before on here.

This past year has an errie beginning of the end feeling to it.

I won't be surprised to see us relegated in the next 3 seasons.

Think it's been the end of the end of Everton as an underfunded Prem club. Whether that soon leads to the end of Everton's run as a Prem club remains to be seen.

But, yeah, a part of our identity has gone away. In that sense, we are just like so many other clubs now...if not quite as bad as QPR.

Going to take the hiring of a manager with a vision and the skill to implement it and integrity to stick with it (with backing from the club hierarchy) to establish a new long-term identity for Everton.
Everton forever.

January 28, 2018, 09:30:16 PM
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Think it's been the end of the end of Everton as an underfunded Prem club. Whether that soon leads to the end of Everton's run as a Prem club remains to be seen.

But, yeah, a part of our identity has gone away. In that sense, we are just like so many other clubs now...if not quite as bad as QPR.

Going to take the hiring of a manager with a vision and the skill to implement it and integrity to stick with it (with backing from the club hierarchy) to establish a new long-term identity for Everton.


If the chuckle brothers (Allardyce and Walsh) go, then we might be on to something.

January 28, 2018, 09:52:19 PM
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of course the amount of money they´re earning is affecting their standard. it´s why they came here instead of going somewhere else. it´s called having a team of mercenaries. not sure it required a thread of its own just to point that out but there´s fuck all else going on i suppose.

January 28, 2018, 10:03:20 PM
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of course the amount of money they´re earning is affecting their standard. it´s why they came here instead of going somewhere else. it´s called having a team of mercenaries. not sure it required a thread of its own just to point that out but there´s fuck all else going on i suppose.
Mercenaries are usually good these lot are shite...
I still despise Clive Thomas..

January 28, 2018, 10:06:44 PM
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loroloco


Mercenaries are usually good these lot are shite...

haha touché

January 28, 2018, 10:21:50 PM
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Do you have any evidence of this, Bally?

I'm inclined to believe otherwise. There are a lot of player-owned companies that don't appear to do anything, so I suspect they exist solely for tax avoidance reasons (I have no proof of this, but, given the amount of money we're talking about, it's likely.)
I was once a tax man
It's the roll I way

January 28, 2018, 10:54:05 PM
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I think there is truth to this, it's not so much that money is the problem, so much as the growing disparity in pay becomes an issue for players. You look at experienced players who were here 2 years ago, and they are on about 50K. 1 year ago, 75K, and the players signed this season are closer to 100K+.

People struggle with the concept of not being happy with 40k per week, but it's more to do with relative worth. If you know someone is on double your wages, you expect a higher standard of work and responsibility, if your doing the more important role, why are you not getting paid the going rate. It doesn't have to result in disputes to create resentment and divisions. People are unlikely to directly complain about it as an issue, but it tends to form the basis to find other grievances.

This isn't necessarily a problem, if the quality of performance goes up or some individuals excel. But the growing disparity in wages, make it increasingly likely there will be conflict or even just resistance between key players, the squad and new big signings. The turnover is so much that you end up with lots of players who've hardly played together and don't really like each other. A few of the recent acquisitions are already being replaced, it becomes a revolving door. We had bromances or atleast combinations, players who got on well and understood each other. Which 2 players play well together, which 2 players even know they are going to play together at some point?

January 29, 2018, 01:06:40 AM
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I dont think it a high wages or wage structure issue.

For me its that we are in a no-mans-land as players know we arent good enough to complete with the top clubs. But we are a big club ourselves and players think we have a right to be in the PL so dont have the 'fight' learned by the small teams.

Everton remind me of Villa. No sucess of any kind for too long and that takes its toll on everyone.