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February 07, 2018, 04:06:09 PM
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formerKHL


Good debate going on at the moment re players diving.......

Pottechino has come out and called it a "trick of the trade"....So is it blatent cheating or a "trick of the trade"....does taking drugs in sport become a "trick of the trade" ? or is it blatent cheating?

of course every penalty given against them is a dive ala harry kane.....every pen they get is a defo pen...

Issue is what "penalty" should players get if caught diving ? is it a straight red card offence? if its not is it condoning "cheating"?
Joey Barton reckons they should get sin binned for 10 minutes....others reckon it could be a totting up of offences then a ban...others think the team should be docked points.....

what dya reckon should happen to ban this "cheating" in the game...

February 07, 2018, 04:12:04 PM
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Ramjam


Seems like Pottechino isnít doing his team any favours coming out with a statement like that. Is that one of his coaching techniques?
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February 07, 2018, 05:28:31 PM
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If it's a horrifically comical attempt during the game, it's a yellow, no more

If it's far less obvious, but deemed a dive after the event by others it's a two game ban, but only if it occurred under certain circumstances

It's all so inconsistent so as not to upset the bigger clubs, but try and make it look like they're doing something about it

If they're going to police it, every game needs reviewing and set bans handed out, even if they've been booked in the match for diving



February 07, 2018, 08:06:38 PM
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Its absolute bollocks that if you get caught in a game its a booking, but if you get done after the fact its a 2 game ban.  If you get caught in the game it should be a 3 game ban.

During the game it should be a red card, a 3 game ban, and the manager sent to the stands.
If its retrospective it should be a 3 game ban, and a 1 game touchline ban for the manager, and the loss of any points gained from the game.

Second time per club that season its 4 games, and 2 games for the manager.
Third time its 6 games, and 3 for the manager.

You've got to really de-incentivise it.

And you've got to publish clear rules before over what is and isn't considered a dive.  And then the process has to be completely transparent.  Communication from the ref at the time as to why it is or isn't considered a dive.  A full appeal process with a committee and allowing historical footage to support.  Not some faceless panel in a murky back room determining which is best for their favoured teams.
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February 08, 2018, 02:18:26 AM
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gizzblue


Either way they do it ...they need keep ex rival players out of the equation and off the panels  .
A la Danny Cunting Murphy Judging Niasse for instance .
Retrospective action should be allowed even after a card .
And Delli Ally should be given 8 month ban for a start 4 for diving 4 for dirty tackling .
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February 08, 2018, 06:34:19 AM
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Redartin


Explains why Pottechino wanted to sign Barkley.