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April 16, 2019, 01:52:54 AM
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Macca77


Ah well, back for the spurs game then


April 16, 2019, 01:57:06 AM
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Well he's created less chances this year than declan rice who's basically a 20 odd year old centre half playing DM for a worse side than us. I know it's not his job because he's playing DM for us but as a comparison vs players in his position, he's objectively bad at it and I don't know why because he clearly can pass and dribble.

He's quite bad defensively, and although it doesn't seem like it because he's so calm in possession, he gives the ball away a lot in dangerous areas, as well as fouls. Against arsenal, arguably his best performance for us and a genuinely good one, no player on the pitch misplaced more passes in their own half, or gave away more fouls in their own half, or got dribbled past more.

Don't want to be slagging him off because I'm much more bought in to him than I originally was, and I do think his temper will land him with a red card soon but partly I think it's frustration at himself. He's clearly a bit sensitive and he seems to boil over when it's not going his way or he gets shut down.

Get out of here with your reasonable criticism backed up with a sprinkling of stats.

Heís a handsome lad so we should obviously be splurging £30m on him

April 16, 2019, 02:01:40 AM
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Macca77


Get out of here with your reasonable criticism backed up with a sprinkling of stats.

Heís a handsome lad so we should obviously be splurging £30m on him

Don't forget his hair, it's spectacular


April 16, 2019, 04:19:49 AM
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sam of the south


Three game ban, never in doubt really
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April 16, 2019, 04:22:46 AM
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Macca77


Anyone else find it strange the way other players get away with lot worse?

April 16, 2019, 04:31:52 AM
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BlueBeagle


Anyone else find it strange the way other players get away with lot worse?

Do they really though?


April 16, 2019, 04:45:14 AM
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Macca77


Do they really though?

They seem to, quite a few examples this season

April 16, 2019, 04:54:25 AM
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TheRam

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I canít think of many examples to be fair.

Havenít seen this but Iím assuming it was a stamp away from the ball?

Itís a lot different than a bad tackle thatís a bit over the top.
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April 16, 2019, 05:07:22 AM
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BlueBeagle


They seem to, quite a few examples this season

Name 2 that were so blatant, deliberate and stupid...

April 16, 2019, 05:12:19 AM
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No complaints if he gets a ban. It's a bad enough challenge if was mistimed, the fact it looks like it was deliberate makes it worse.

Nothing to do with whether anyone else gets away with it (can't remember too many more blatent stamps) he'll get punshed and can't really complain. 
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 05:22:58 AM by Gash »

April 16, 2019, 06:15:37 AM
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agree with most of what has been said -  blatant , stupid etc , but would have to look at other matches- to see if any others-  but i reckon there has been numerous  missed by the refs-( and not highlighted)   it just seems its ok its only little  Everton again  we can pick on them,         last season Kane and Ali got away with reckless challenges on City players in one game--------------

but Gomes was stupid ,  just hate all the Pundits , commentators beating us with a stick

Can't wait for VAR and all the slow motion sending off's
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 06:19:29 AM by WeimaranerBlues »

April 16, 2019, 08:41:08 AM
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Mac934


If it's a 3 match ban, that may well have been his last full game for us. If we play well in the next three matches and he doesn't make the 11 in the Spurs game. Shame really to end his loan that way.

April 16, 2019, 03:29:37 PM
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Watching Mitrovic bullying our center backs, I was hoping somebody would smash him to put him in his place. What Gomes does though is over the top. He has gone to deliberately injure him and could have easily caused him some serious damage. There was a moment a few minutes earlier when they tussled in the Fulham area and it looked like Mitrovic swung an arm at him and Gomes was not happy. It was definitely payback, definitely deliberate and definitely stupid as he will now be banned and it will be justified.

April 16, 2019, 04:34:59 PM
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Funny enough there is three that went unpunished as I can off the top of my head remember...Ally and Kane both same game early in the season(not sure who against) and Davidson Sanchez on a keeper a couple of weeks ago ....all stamps no punishments ....but it's not just spurs ..
Despite this and the numerous transgressions that get no punishment against the top teams (Salahs blatant dive yet again the other day casing point ) Gomes deserves the ban. ..it was reckless and dangerous .
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April 16, 2019, 04:43:02 PM
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It was a bad foul, it looked very much like there was plenty of intent there. Gomes has the arrogance high quality players tend to settle into. The hard bit is avoiding reds and yellows. He deserved to be sent off. I wouldn't want him to lose that bit of on field spite, or maybe it's not so much spite, as cynicism. You only need to look at Ramos, to find the best in the business at that type of game. Gomes is worth signing though. We need players with that edge.  But intentional  injuring of other players, is stepping over tbe line.
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