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August 09, 2018, 05:32:44 PM
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yeah, good job we're at Molineux



That's tickled me so fucking much it's stupid. lolol
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August 09, 2018, 05:34:49 PM
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That's tickled me so fucking much it's stupid. lolol

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August 09, 2018, 05:40:55 PM
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Go back a couple of posts to @stirlingblue . And read the last sentence of his post. It's daft, but subtle.
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August 09, 2018, 07:12:08 PM
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What about iniesta? Seems like a daft request (given he’s undoubtably 1 of the greatest of all time) but his goals and assists output were always quite poor

Did his graphs look like that of a worldbeater

https://twitter.com/mixedknuts/status/805539204327411712

August 09, 2018, 07:13:07 PM
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Haha. Imagine comparing any midfielder to Iniesta 😆

August 09, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
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https://twitter.com/mixedknuts/status/805539204327411712

Can read stats lots of different ways, but besides the obvious failings that most would have against Iniesta im not getting that there's much of a player there!


August 09, 2018, 07:33:09 PM
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Haha. Imagine comparing any midfielder to Iniesta 😆

Well I mean this guy was bought with an eye to replacing him and a poster above requested it so it’s fair enough in this case.

More than anything it just shows you what an achtype looks like compared to who you’re getting.

As @Mick 1995 said no stats can translate “fully”, but they can help you make less mistakes.

End of the day tho - im up for it. Someone new and he’s tall and pretty graceful so I’m sure I’ll end up liking him.

Can see people’s point re: stats sanitising football. E.g there’s no performance data from the Ukrainian league so in the dark over Bernard...so I’m even more excited in a way?
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August 09, 2018, 07:33:09 PM
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I've watched him and he has everything we're missing in the midfield.

Especially the ability to pick the ball up and run at the opposition.

We remember how good we were when Barkley was doing this at his best? This lad offers that and more, in my opinion.

August 09, 2018, 07:35:06 PM
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He is worth a look at, sounds like its a loan, if he fails so be it, I am defo willing to give him a chance tho
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August 09, 2018, 07:37:42 PM
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It will be a great signing

August 09, 2018, 07:38:21 PM
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https://twitter.com/mixedknuts/status/805539204327411712

No I suspected they weren’t. Just wondered if Barca’s unique style slanted the graphs even for great midfielders.

August 09, 2018, 07:39:14 PM
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Well I mean this guy was bought with an eye to replacing him and a poster above requested it so it’s fair enough in this case.

More than anything it just shows you what an achtype looks like compared to who you’re getting.

As @Mick 1995 said no stats can translate “fully”, but they can help you make less mistakes.

End of the day tho - im up for it. Someone new and he’s tall and pretty graceful so I’m sure I’ll end up liking him.

Can see people’s point re: stats sanitising football. E.g there’s no performance data from the Ukrainian league so in the dark over Bernard...so I’m even more excited in a way?

yeah, i'm deffo not dismissing stats utterly. I think as a base to see what a player does in a system it's sound.
For strikers & keepers i would argue till the wee small hours of the morning that expecteds are the most important thing to look at when considering a player. (form v class)
But midfielders and defenders? nah, there's nothing inherently useful in the stats in the real world.

August 09, 2018, 07:42:35 PM
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yeah, i'm deffo not dismissing stats utterly. I think as a base to see what a player does in a system it's sound.
For strikers & keepers i would argue till the wee small hours of the morning that expecteds are the most important thing to look at when considering a player. (form v class)
But midfielders and defenders? nah, there's nothing inherently useful in the stats in the real world.

Strongly disagree when it comes to midfielders.

There are measurable metrics, you can use regression or blended career averages to remove team / tactic / form boosts and dips and see clearly what sort of player they are and what they are capabale of doing.
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August 09, 2018, 07:46:15 PM
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I've watched him and he has everything we're missing in the midfield.

Especially the ability to pick the ball up and run at the opposition.

We remember how good we were when Barkley was doing this at his best? This lad offers that and more, in my opinion.

So @kramer0 we need stats comparing Barkley to Gomes.
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August 09, 2018, 07:48:20 PM
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I know full well @brap2 is going to love this guy.