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Author Topic: Goodison for Gomes?  (Read 159211 times)

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December 06, 2018, 09:31:57 PM
Reply #15


Iíll try not to contribute to this thread for a bit then, honestly thought last night was interesting but Iím clearly flogging a dead horse and doing peoples heads in and Iíve been on here far too long to want to be Milky.

If you think my motivations are anything other than wanting the best for Everton fc then Iíve wasted a great deal of time on here.

I generally agree with you too.

He's a pretty good player and one that we've needed, not a can't-miss player that we absolutely have to add to our midfield permanently.

Obviously, he has the raw tools to be something special but at some point before we consider buying him, he has to actually perform at that level, not just hint at the possibility of it.

December 06, 2018, 09:39:09 PM
Reply #16


Do really like him though and any issues in the midfield are with the two midfielders around him in Gana and Sigurdsson.

That's fair. Gana's limited passing certainly puts a burden on the other deep midfielder and Sigurdsson plays more like a forward than a playmaker.

For whatever it's worth, I thought the main mistake Silva made last night was starting Tosun, who's looked like an awkward fit with Sigurdsson all season. Our best form has come since we moved him out of the starting lineup for Richarlison (and Calvert-Lewin for a bit) and started using him as an attacking sub for when we're aggressively chasing a goal.

February 20, 2019, 01:11:55 AM
Reply #17


I bet we could capture all of the dribbles and crisp passes to the flanks, along with some extra defensive upside, for a smaller fee and wage by signing Sander Berge from Genk instead.

March 11, 2019, 07:09:08 PM
Reply #18


Most of our attacks are through the wide areas no matter who starts in the middle and everybody we play there can pass the ball out to the wings effectively. I think it's more important for Silva to get the defensive balance right at the moment.

Gana and Gomes tend to get overrun without a third proper midfielder alongside them (this has been the pattern since December). Sigurdsson is generally positioned too far forward to help them out.

With Sigurdsson starting, I'm starting think we're better off playing a second defensive midfielder. It makes us stronger without the ball and the "loss" in distribution hardly matters because we're playing through our wingers and fullbacks anyway.

And when Silva does manage to "get away" with Gana-Gomes-Sigurdsson like he did in the first half on Saturday, it would be nice if he learned to shut the game down while he's ahead. Sigurdsson off, proper midfielder on. Now you have an extra body to shield the defense and get a hold of the ball further back, which can help relieve pressure.

March 11, 2019, 11:01:31 PM
Reply #19


Nobody needs Andre Gomes.

March 12, 2019, 12:30:37 AM
Reply #20


Gonna have to be someone bloody good to go Gomes and sigurdssons work. Could do with a playmaker too seeing as sigurdsson isnít really up to it. A Messi Kante hybred maybe. Or we could just not keep sigurdsson and Gomes

That's basically the problem with our midfield options. All specialists, no balanced skill sets.

If you're the opposition, all you have to do is force one player to do something he's not comfortable with and the whole thing goes to shit.

March 20, 2019, 11:26:28 PM
Reply #21


Despite his obvious technical inferiority, I honestly think Tom Davies is a better player.

March 21, 2019, 08:24:18 PM
Reply #22


Dembele was a good defender in addition to the dribbles and general pressure resistance.

If Gomes had that in his game, I think I'd be on board.

As is, I'd rather go for Sander Berge if we're looking for a Dembele-esque player. He has the baseline skills, is cheaper, and has way more defensive upside than Gomes.

March 21, 2019, 09:45:46 PM
Reply #23


£20-25m plus something like his Barca wage is way too much for someone who's a rotation player at best for an actual good side.

If your scouting team can't do better, sack them all.

March 23, 2019, 07:20:33 PM
Reply #24


Of course I've barely seen him play and only know him because of his stats.

I'm not a professional scout, I'm some guy on an internet forum.
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October 30, 2019, 07:20:03 AM
Reply #25


So strong and so technically gifted that he never had to learn how to map out where other players are on the pitch or make decisions quickly.

November 04, 2019, 10:20:30 PM
Reply #26


Ive only seen the briefest, edited replay of the incident.  Did Son actually do anything wrong?

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Oops, meant to quote.

Basically he ran him down and lunged in at full speed in an attempt to take him out from behind.

The contact from Son didn't *directly* cause the injury but it was reckless and definitely a revenge tackle. Should have been a red card before it became clear that Gomes was badly hurt.