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December 29, 2018, 01:53:03 AM
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Another thread gone completely nuts because of mad random shouts lolol


December 29, 2018, 02:46:13 AM
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40 million for a 29 year old athlete is a no brainer. 100% not irreplaceable and if we invest wisely we'll be better off

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December 29, 2018, 02:55:05 AM
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You want us to sign Danny drinkwater
Who won the league and then Chelsea signed him.

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December 29, 2018, 03:00:19 AM
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Who won the league and then Chelsea signed him.

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Darron Gibson, Tom Cleverly and Jack Rodwell have also won the league, whereas players like Gerrard never, I know who I'd have preferred us to sign.....

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December 29, 2018, 03:06:45 AM
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Drinkwater and Dacourt shouts.

Oh boy lolol

December 29, 2018, 03:10:50 AM
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Who won the league and then Chelsea signed him.

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And he’s played about as many games fir them as I have.
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December 29, 2018, 03:33:33 AM
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Who won the league and then Chelsea signed him.

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Nathan Dyer has a Premier League winners medal.
So do Richard Wright, Luke Chadwick, Pascal Cygan, Jérémie Aliadère, Jesper Blomqvist, Jack Rodwell.


December 29, 2018, 04:00:47 AM
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This is absolutely insane
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December 29, 2018, 04:01:06 AM
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Tbf Drinkwater was massively important in there title win. Nevertheless, suggesting he replaces Gana is either trolling or misunderstanding footy.

December 29, 2018, 04:01:39 AM
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This is absolutely insane

Yeah but Marco Materazzi mate.

December 29, 2018, 04:27:37 AM
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Tbf Drinkwater was massively important in there title win. Nevertheless, suggesting he replaces Gana is either trolling or misunderstanding footy.
I liked that for the first half.

There was also clamour for him to go to Euro 2016 and surprise when he did not.

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December 29, 2018, 04:40:11 AM
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Nathan Dyer has a Premier League winners medal.
So do Richard Wright, Luke Chadwick, Pascal Cygan, Jérémie Aliadère, Jesper Blomqvist, Jack Rodwell.
None of those players literally where the spine behind them winning the league.

I'd rather have Lee Carsley than Gana. Tbf that's probably Nostalgia but at least we finished 4th with Carsley.

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December 29, 2018, 04:49:43 AM
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December 29, 2018, 01:18:09 PM
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Can I ask you, what do you think of this?

https://statsbomb.com/2018/11/idrissa-gueye-powers-evertons-surprising-defense/
My take on this is that his stats do look very impressive on paper, and I was talking about them to a spurs fan and he said what he'd like to know is how many of those tackles won or interceptions were as a result of him giving the ball away about 5 seconds before, which I tend to agree with. There are other interesting stats which you can read into:
In 117 games he's played we've lost 51, his tackle success is 74% and his duels won are 871 compared to 601 lost. Its hard to tell in my opinion if him being top of the ranking for tackles etc is a good or bad thing or if these are just down to work rate, by rule if you do something a lot more than someone else then you should be top, or near to it, it doesn't necessarily indicate the importance of the tackle /interception and also doesn't go into those duels lost; was he hunting the ball in areas he shouldn't have been meaning he got bypassed and we got massively exposed, which has happened? As I said previously, I think he's a very good player, but I don't think he's irreplaceable


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December 29, 2018, 07:45:20 PM
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My take on this is that his stats do look very impressive on paper, and I was talking about them to a spurs fan and he said what he'd like to know is how many of those tackles won or interceptions were as a result of him giving the ball away about 5 seconds before, which I tend to agree with. There are other interesting stats which you can read into:
In 117 games he's played we've lost 51, his tackle success is 74% and his duels won are 871 compared to 601 lost. Its hard to tell in my opinion if him being top of the ranking for tackles etc is a good or bad thing or if these are just down to work rate, by rule if you do something a lot more than someone else then you should be top, or near to it, it doesn't necessarily indicate the importance of the tackle /interception and also doesn't go into those duels lost; was he hunting the ball in areas he shouldn't have been meaning he got bypassed and we got massively exposed, which has happened? As I said previously, I think he's a very good player, but I don't think he's irreplaceable


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This is a good point re: the amount he has to tackle, but I think it’s wrong to look at it like how many tackles did he have to make because of his own fault, it’s more like, how many tackles does he have to make because the teams shape and the amount the opposition are allowed into his zone (deep, central) which means he has to work hard and win it back again and again, in a better side he wouldn’t need to.

But at the end of the day, he does have to for us and he is doing it at an extraordinary level according to this article, and masking the side’s deficiencies.
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