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May 14, 2019, 06:25:23 PM
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His opinions can be a bit rogue but he's American so if he's uses American terminology why is that an issue?

Used on its own in isolation, probably wouldn't have brought it up.

When used in a post that is an utter shambles from start to finish, it'd have been amiss for me to not mention it when dissecting the rest of the post.


May 14, 2019, 06:35:00 PM
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Used on its own in isolation, probably wouldn't have brought it up.

When used in a post that is an utter shambles from start to finish, it'd have been amiss for me to not mention it when dissecting the rest of the post.

Give it a rest.

For man who once posted this you don't half get involved in some really petty little arguments on here.

Not to me no but I'm also not sad enough to be arsed what another grown man posts on a forum

May 14, 2019, 06:50:41 PM
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You know, I couldn't care less about the stats.

It feels better under Silva than it did at any point last season so I'm happy with that going into next season.
I'm more trusting of fellas when they have my cock in their mouth


May 14, 2019, 06:50:56 PM
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BlueBeagle


Give it a rest.

For man who once posted this you don't half get involved in some really petty little arguments on here.

I'm responding to direct quotes

May 14, 2019, 06:56:27 PM
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I'm responding to direct quotes

And I'm saying to give it a rest. There's nothing to be gained by dragging it on.

May 14, 2019, 06:57:56 PM
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Toddacelli


Are you on this planet?

Fucking A- lolol

As for Sam getting us relegated... As he's a specialist in avoiding relegation, and absolutely nothing else, I'd say the threat of that was zero had he stayed.

And in 'soccer' it's a squad, not roster.

Absolute heads-gone post on x3 separate counts :titanic:

Btw - it's 'football' not 'soccer'.
    

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May 14, 2019, 07:00:34 PM
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Toddacelli


You know, I couldn't care less about the stats.

It feels better under Silva than it did at any point last season so I'm happy with that going into next season.

True - but we've had a few 'feelgood' periods recently that haven't amounted to much. Tbh - some of them, such as the owner, the ground, the money etc, could well all come together with Silva and Brands, they've been bubbling for a while and it could all come together in something special.

I still think we're at least one or two seasons off seeing a fully realised, genuinely competitive Silva squad.
    

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May 14, 2019, 08:09:34 PM
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This is how I've personally looked at Silva's season.....firstly forget the comparison stats rubbish...it means absolutely nothing...

If I remember correctly in the silva out? thread I stated something like..."for me his game management is poor" (or words o that effect)

Start of the season:
Firstly within the club was there managerial turmoil ? YES did it effect Silva YES...did he turn it around YES
did he inherit an unfamiliar squad both to him and to each other YES....did he manage to turn them into a true squad YES
Did we start the season well YES.....did we falter mid season YES.....did some "refereeing decisions effect the balance of the team YES (ie the sendings off of jags and richarlison eg 6 points lost when we were in the ascendancy) did Silva cope with this sort of loss...initially NO, However, he didn't really have the players at the time in the squad to make the required changes..Did Silva sort this out with transfers etc YES.....
Were we poor defensively?  at the start YES particularly set pieces.....Did he sort it out YES....
did the loan players once all fit adapt, fit into the team and improve the team and performances YES....
Did his game management improve over the course of the season DEFINATE YES....
Did he develop a settled side YES...
Did performances improve overall YES...(2 blips Newcastle and Fulham....)
Did the players look like they wanted to play for him YES
DID we sort out our striker issues...NO

Are signs of improvement for next season positive YES.....

So for me overall i'm happy with Silva...what the summer window brings will be crucial for Silva's (and everton's) success going forward...for me we have to buy a recognised striker to "push us forward" into the top 6....if not Silva will "struggle" to break the mould of we're the best of the rest....and lets face we don't wanna be "just best of the rest....."

May 14, 2019, 09:45:06 PM
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First completed season as a manager in the Premier League

First full season with the same club in the Premier League

54 points

Silva deserves the benefit of the doubt

They always used to say about rock bands that the follow up album is harder to achieve than the acclaimed debut

Second season? Just ask Moyes, Martinez and Koeman! Marco to break the jinx
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May 14, 2019, 09:49:40 PM
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First completed season as a manager in the Premier League

First full season with the same club in the Premier League

54 points

Silva deserves the benefit of the doubt

They always used to say about rock bands that the follow up album is harder to achieve than the acclaimed debut

Second season? Just ask Moyes, Martinez and Koeman! Marco to break the jinx
I think he'll have a good season next season, and better this one - shouldn't be all that hard tbh. No real obvious fault in silvas management, any issues with set pieces or defending were addressed, seems to play in a way Evertonians want to play aswell, so he's probably listened to people aswell.

May 14, 2019, 10:37:33 PM
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I do my best to use correct British footballing vernacular, but of course I will get it wrong sometimes.  I am trying to be a good guest, but internet communication inevitably leaves some things lost in translation.

Anyway, I do apologize for whenever I am being an irritant.  Never my intent.
"If you want a really scary thought, imagine how stupid the average American is.  Then realize...half of 'em are dumber than THAT." - George Carlin

May 14, 2019, 10:58:45 PM
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BlueBeagle


I do my best to use correct British footballing vernacular, but of course I will get it wrong sometimes.  I am trying to be a good guest, but internet communication inevitably leaves some things lost in translation.

Anyway, I do apologize for whenever I am being an irritant.  Never my intent.

No apology necessary, me being a bit of a dick... But if you spell apologise with a Z again I'll hunt you down!

May 15, 2019, 12:42:34 AM
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Mouse


You know, I couldn't care less about the stats.

It feels better under Silva than it did at any point last season so I'm happy with that going into next season.
This.

I don't mind all the stats but I think as a basic fan of Everton it's how you feel about the club that matters most. Last season I felt disillusioned and dislocated. The club I love was drifting away.

This season, notwithstanding the mid-season slump, I feel we are moving back in the right direction. Silva has by a mixture of luck and good judgement (and the odd siren or two) managed to reconnect the team with the fans. It was good to go to games again and bask in a little collective joy rather than wallowing in the collective misery of last year.

I still think Silva has a long way to go. He is a young manager with a young team. Right now I'm content with last season and looking froward to next.

May 15, 2019, 12:51:03 AM
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This.

I don't mind all the stats but I think as a basic fan of Everton it's how you feel about the club that matters most. Last season I felt disillusioned and dislocated. The club I love was drifting away.

This season, notwithstanding the mid-season slump, I feel we are moving back in the right direction. Silva has by a mixture of luck and good judgement (and the odd siren or two) managed to reconnect the team with the fans. It was good to go to games again and bask in a little collective joy rather than wallowing in the collective misery of last year.

I still think Silva has a long way to go. He is a young manager with a young team. Right now I'm content with last season and looking froward to next.

Haha! Is it too late to vote for the siren as Player Of The Season?
    

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May 15, 2019, 01:39:08 AM
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I wonder what the passing stats look like if you drill down into them a bit more with regards to things like forward passes, passes in the final third, passes from midfield to attack etc.

Not sure if that's possible but pass completion and total passes don't tell you that much I'm isolation