The Rebuild

[The Doc]

For me it feels just the same as it has for years in a lot of ways. The only time it hasn't in recent years were those early Moshiri days when we were throwing cash around to force deals over the line early and we had the benefit of a decent reputation at the nicer end of the table.

Most of the time, the thing that moves deals over the line fast is paying over the odds and/or have the player really want to join because we're offering them a significant upgrade in their current playing situation.

The only other thing that moves deals to completion is the window coming to a close and it's where most of our deals get done because we're not offering either of the above a lot of the time.

Chances are we start the season looking fairly similar to what we are now. I wish the PL still had the window close before the season starts as it is another of those things that benefits the bigger teams as most likely they'll do a lot of their business earlier. That said, I do think we'd have been better off keeping Thelwell in for another year or so as we had a lot of transitions going on this season and I think some continuity would've been helpful.

Hard not to be disappointed with the business done so far though with the gaps in the squad, while at the same time not being super surprising.

And this approach absolutely fucked us for the following 8 years, leading to points deductions and relegation battles.

[howard1334]

My worry is that's what we want from Charlie and maybe even Ndiaye. I feel like we're getting linked with lots of players who all want to play in roughly the same spaces.

Although with our squad depth I suppose that's probably necessary.

I have this concern as well. Charly played as the 10 for us several times last season, and I anticipate him doing so more often with a healthy Ndiaye and McNeil. I'd prioritize a RW, RB, LB, and deeper lying midfielder before a 10.

[brap2]

I'd rather we take our time than waste another window chasing Willy Gnonto.

Those are not the two options though frankly

[Bluebridge]

Listen, we’re in tier2, even 3 when it comes to transfers, tier 1 gets the players as and when they want, then it’s a knock on effect tier 1 sort their squads out and then the rest follow. We’re not not not doing business cos we’re being slow, the players we’re after come towards the middle/end of window.
Flappers chill out. Look who’s done the most business so far, tier 1. The rest are like us.
Chill!

[Shogun]

Just think the longer you leave it, the more difficult you make it for any player coming in. Some deals are more than difficult than others but the Grealish you get in September after sitting on his arse all summer isn't going to be near the Grealish you get with a full pre-season behind him.

Players talk all the time about how if you miss pre-season that you always feel like you're catching up as the seasons trots along. Are we really going to bring 3/4 first team players in towards the end of the window and expect them to perform instantly?

[777Kidnappings]

So far the rebuild is disappointing especially when teams like the shite are spending nearly 200 million. I didn't expect signings on the scale of them but Moyes looks like he's going to America with a very threadbare squad. TFG are putting a lot of people in place behind the scenes which is understandable considering how bad Everton have been run over the last 20 years and I'm sure things will happen eventually but its beginning to get a bit frustrating when the highlight of the week is a back up keeper.

Totally agree it's frustrating and it's boring. However we've been entertained by transfer windows before and they've turned out to be a disaster. They aren't really employed to keep us entertained in the off season. We have to just get it right

[777Kidnappings]

Ultimately if we are in for in demand players they don't really want to come here so we have to wait because they want to see if there's a better offer coming.

It is frustrating but we have to see where we are when the window closes

Has anyone we can compete with financially signed anyone we really would have liked. Not sure we've done worse than most so far.

[toffee_scot]

Hoping we can get some more playings in key areas within the next couple of weeks.

Although it’s new ownership, I guess it will take time to build a smooth functioning process for player recruitment. I am a little concerned if Moyes is playing a big role in the recruitment that it will be even slower once he is in the US with the team - this always seemed to be the case the last time he was manager at Everton during our preseason tours.

I don’t know why I feel confident in the club addressing the priority areas in this transfer window, however I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we get the last 2-3 players in the final week of the window.

We still have quite a bit of work to do to convince good quality players to come here even versus other clubs like at the level of Brighton, Fulham and Bournemouth sadly. Despite having a new stadium, I’m not sure that it is necessarily a big incentive for players, especially those from abroad who are less familiar with the history of Everton and the game in England.

[kramer]

Just think the longer you leave it, the more difficult you make it for any player coming in. Some deals are more than difficult than others but the Grealish you get in September after sitting on his arse all summer isn't going to be near the Grealish you get with a full pre-season behind him.

Players talk all the time about how if you miss pre-season that you always feel like you're catching up as the seasons trots along. Are we really going to bring 3/4 first team players in towards the end of the window and expect them to perform instantly?

Doubt we can afford Grealish without City getting sufficiently desperate to offload him.

They won’t be feeling that desperation in July.

[777Kidnappings]

Hoping we can get some more playings in key areas within the next couple of weeks.

Although it’s new ownership, I guess it will take time to build a smooth functioning process for player recruitment. I am a little concerned if Moyes is playing a big role in the recruitment that it will be even slower once he is in the US with the team - this always seemed to be the case the last time he was manager at Everton during our preseason tours.

I don’t know why I feel confident in the club addressing the priority areas in this transfer window, however I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we get the last 2-3 players in the final week of the window.

We still have quite a bit of work to do to convince good quality players to come here even versus other clubs like at the level of Brighton, Fulham and Bournemouth sadly. Despite having a new stadium, I’m not sure that it is necessarily a big incentive for players, especially those from abroad who are less familiar with the history of Everton and the game in England.

Think we are a bigger draw than Fulham and Bournemouth now but nowhere near Brighton with their reputation for developing players and getting them big moves. Wasn't so long ago that we were told that players were picking the likes of ipswich and Southampton over us.

[777Kidnappings]

Doubt we can afford Grealish without City getting sufficiently desperate to offload him.

They won’t be feeling that desperation in July.

Exactly. They are currently talking about 40m permanent deals. Gonna take time before they decide a loan where they pay most of his wages is a good idea

[MayorFarnham]

Grealish will be doing pre-season with City. Players without a club are the ones that won't have a pre-season.

[Shogun]

Doubt we can afford Grealish without City getting sufficiently desperate to offload him.

They won’t be feeling that desperation in July.

Yeah but he was just an example. No reason Douglas Luiz can't be done now. No reason club can't be getting other targets in early doors. The longer we wait, the more disjointed we're going to be.

[kramer]

Yeah but he was just an example. No reason Douglas Luiz can't be done now. No reason club can't be getting other targets in early doors. The longer we wait, the more disjointed we're going to be.

Agreed in principle.

Moyes said he’s looking at 4-6 more additions. I bet we’re trying to negotiate every fee, loan or permanent, down as low as possible because the leftover money can be used to finance additional squad players.

We have to do this at the expense of players getting here in our preferred timeframe simply because this is the hand we’ve been dealt. Too much money spent on players who aren’t good enough over too many years, basically no return for any of them, even the good ones like Doucoure.

Just a hunch but it lines up with some of the players who are below our level of ambition being offered new contracts. Needing this many additions is a tough spot for a budget-conscious club.

I imagine we’d have another notable signing boxed off if Tete had signed. That deal falling through created some pressure on our budget that I assume we were hoping to avoid.

[Gary1878]

I think it depends who is brought in. If they have been with their clubs, then they should have a full pre-season.

You have to judge it at the end of the window, but I get the flapping. I would say that I am now out of first gear in terms of the level of flap that I am feeling.