The Rebuild

[TheRam]

Yeah, I'd be amazed if some of the promoted teams didn't break 30 pts. We've got used to a super low bar of late, albeit I'd be surprised if they significantly break 35 pts or so. You can't keep counting on the teams coming up to be completely useless though.

I'd hope with recruitment we'd still be able to be decently clear of that, but a bad start with a bare bones squad and unfamiliar home ground (although our home form was already kinda poor of late) would still likely make for an unnecessarily uncomfortable season.

That said, not all doom and gloom as I think the blips of Man United and Spurs will be filled by other teams who are also struggling in the transfer market (Brentford maybe, Wolves, West Ham) so I suspect we'd have company if we can't bring in enough good players.

Yeah, it’s mad how people are assuming they’ll be as bad as the previous promoted teams.

Leeds are a big club, who’ll be fully up for it and have focused on signing tall, powerful players from Germany which is a smart way to recruit for a promoted team.

Sunderland have simply spent too much money on good players to be dismissed. Again, like Leeds, they’re a big club who’ll make it difficult for teams when at home.

Not sure on Burnley, but again, been very busy in the market and judging on last season they’re going to try and make it difficult.

Not worried at the moment of relegation, but I feel like we are kind of sleep walking into a very precarious situation if we don’t get a move on.

If the promoted teams are decent then there’s not much room for manoeuvre for a team like us.

[Bluedylan1]

5/6 would leave us pretty short still. Considering we've got 5 loan slots then that should be the bare minimum we achieve by the end of the window. You wonder what those loans will look like as well. If it's Grealish then well worth the wait, if it's Harrison then I wouldn't want to be Everton's social media admin at the start of September.

I suppose we have a half-decent XI to get through the month of August praying to all the imaginary gods that our players stay fit.

Just going off the ''10 players'', and given that we've got 4 in so far, presuming we're looking at another 6 if possible.

I don't mind us having a tight squad, as long as we bring quality in and there's some flexible players who play a couple of different positions.

It'll be super disappointing if we start off with 2/3 pretty rubbish performances, and we don't get going properly til September or October but that's looking like the most likely scenario at the moment.

On the positive side, Moyes is used to getting results with limited resources so maybe those skills are going to be massively needed against Leeds and Brighton.

[AllyBlue14]

The Rebuild thread has become the relegation thread... in July!

[Brownie]

Everton will wait until the final weeks of the transfer window to make a loan offer for Juventus and Brazil midfielder Douglas Luiz, 27. (GiveMesport)

By which time he will be playing for someone else

[Bluebridge]

Everton will wait until the final weeks of the transfer window to make a loan offer for Juventus and Brazil midfielder Douglas Luiz, 27. (GiveMesport)

By which time he will be playing for someone else

Bet he’s here by Tuesday.

[fxceltic]

Last year was the worst group of promoted teams the league has ever seen plus we had man United and spurs having generational poor seasons.

26 points won’t be enough to survive, plus spurs and United will be a lot better next season.

The league is stronger. It’s silly to suggest otherwise, just like it’s silly to suggest our midfield is fine, or that we’re biding our time in the market to sign players of high quality.

Just call it for what it is. We’re in massive trouble as things stand at the moment.

I’m not suggesting we aren’t in difficulty and that we don’t desperately need players, just arguing with stating the league and other teams are stronger as a position of fact, because we don’t know that to be true. Yet.

I actually think it might be true, in that two of three coming up will be better than those going down, but at the same time is very possible Sunderland and Burnley in particular will be shite, and others will be worse than you imagine
Brentford will prob struggle, wolves lost their best player, West Ham are shit (yes I know they just beat us) etc etc

[fxceltic]

Nevin saying of the options available from united we should go for Sancho, I agree with that, still young, good player who has had a shit time at a basket case where he doesn’t fit

Classic Moyes that is, guaranteed winner

[Kerryblueboy]

Nevin saying of the options available from united we should go for Sancho, I agree with that, still young, good player who has had a shit time at a basket case where he doesn’t fit

Classic Moyes that is, guaranteed winner

He is on 350000 a week how do you propose we sort that we need to move away from this type of deal and go for younger players with big potential that we can make money on

[superpull]

Remember everyone taking the piss out of Forest when they came up because they immediately bought 300 players and massively overspent?

It's a gamble that you can gell quick enough to get enough out of them to stay up. But if it works it raises the bar and you can establish yourself. (Don't even think Sunderland will have to worry about points deductions like Forest did as PSR is getting binned soon, surely?)

[Audrey Horne]

Nevin saying of the options available from united we should go for Sancho, I agree with that, still young, good player who has had a shit time at a basket case where he doesn’t fit

Classic Moyes that is, guaranteed winner

Naaa he isn't bothered.

Talented yep but on am absolute wedge and doesn't care enough.

You're naive if you think he will come here and scrap then the going gets tough.

[fxceltic]

Naaa he isn't bothered.

Talented yep but on am absolute wedge and doesn't care enough.

You're naive if you think he will come here and scrap then the going gets tough.

maybe, but its not me, its Pat Nevin, is he naive after a life playing the game at the top level and being a thoughtful, intelligent dude? He might be wrong, which is one thing, but I dont think hes naive

obvs we arent gonna pay 350k a week, but Id take hm as a loan with united paying most of his wage for a season, alongside a dibling signing

[Shogun]

I wouldn't go near Sancho like. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt attitude wise, his game just doesn't seem suited to the Premier League.

[Trowel]

Moyes managed to get a tune out of Lingard at West Ham, so stranger things have happened.

[brap2]

He'd be our best player by a country mile, but I wouldn't touch him with yours personally

[Cereal Killer]

Why even mention him?

He’s looking at Juventus and Dortmund

He’s not going to have any interest in us