David Moyes

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Röhl in cm, agreed make it happen

[Juanito]

7th for attacking XG

15th for defensive XG

The defence needs a shake up.

Keane out, job in, garner right back

Agreed. Keane has been solid but he makes us sit so far back, which isn’t great when we don’t have a natural sitter in front of him.

[AjaxAndy]

We didn't sit back against Spurs though, even at 0-0 we had a super high line with both Tarks and Keane on the halfway line often with one inside their half.

The full back issue is far more of a problem and the fact the ball doesn't stick to the striker the biggest probably of all as means we spend a lot of time conceding possession which immediately pushes us back.

Watching Newcastle Vs Spurs last night I saw Richarlison take a direct pass down in one touch and then spread it out wide and it felt like watching witchcraft compared to Beto.

[Stumpy]

We didn't sit back against Spurs though, even at 0-0 we had a super high line with both Tarks and Keane on the halfway line often with one inside their half.

The full back issue is far more of a problem and the fact the ball doesn't stick to the striker the biggest probably of all as means we spend a lot of time conceding possession which immediately pushes us back.

Watching Newcastle Vs Spurs last night I saw Richarlison take a direct pass down in one touch and then spread it out wide and it felt like watching witchcraft compared to Beto.

That's exactly what i've said on another thread, the two fullbacks and the striker situation is killing us.
Nothing against Job, it's not his fault but he has to be replaced at sunderland on monday, weather it's Coleman or Garner dropping back let's do it.
Mykolenko is not such a straightforward situation to fix, i think we're stuck until January.
Alcaraz has to come in as well, just someone to drive at the opposition.
It needs to be shaken up, because even after just 9 games things are starting to look a little stale already

[TheRam]

Still not getting any major red flags about our set up.

Also, why have they decided to use that badge.

[777Kidnappings]

Still not getting any major red flags about our set up.

Also, why have they decided to use that badge.

I think its purely down to the individuals (our problems)
The issues at fullback and with the lack of pace in the side wasn't tackled at all. The lack of anything upfront is costing us. Plus KDH signing and playing instead of Alcaraz makes us much more predictable in midfield too.

Our problems begin and end with the last transfer window. We made a mess

[sam of the south]

I think its purely down to the individuals (our problems)
The issues at fullback and with the lack of pace in the side wasn't tackled at all. The lack of anything upfront is costing us. Plus KDH signing and playing instead of Alcaraz makes us much more predictable in midfield too.

Our problems begin and end with the last transfer window. We made a mess

Our problems go back to at least 20 transfer windows ago, plus every managerial appointment we’ve made since Moyes version 1.0 left the building

[777Kidnappings]

Our problems go back to at least 20 transfer windows ago, plus every managerial appointment we’ve made since Moyes version 1.0 left the building

Don't disagree with that but we had a chance to fix some of it last summer and instead continued to make a mess.

[AjaxAndy]

Our problems begin and end with the last transfer window. We made a mess

We have a lot of very good players, no team with Grealish, Ndaiye, Gueye, Dibling, Tarks, Pickford, KDH should be struggling.

The transfer window wasn't amazing but it also wasn't the disaster some make it out to be. We're significantly stronger than we were last season but we also have a stubborn pragmatic manager who refuses to change things that are obvious to everyone else.

Stick Ireola or Glasner in charge of this team and we're a very different proposition.

I think Moyes will get it right eventually, it's just frustrating watching him take about 5 games longer than it would other managers to figure things out.

[777Kidnappings]

We have a lot of very good players, no team with Grealish, Ndaiye, Gueye, Dibling, Tarks, Pickford, KDH should be struggling.

The transfer window wasn't amazing but it also wasn't the disaster some make it out to be. We're significantly stronger than we were last season but we also have a stubborn pragmatic manager who refuses to change things that are obvious to everyone else.

Stick Ireola or Glasner in charge of this team and we're a very different proposition.

I think Moyes will get it right eventually, it's just frustrating watching him take about 5 games longer than it would other managers to figure things out.

The problem is we have no team. We've got great wingers and no fullbacks, we've got nothing upfront in terms of holdup play or goals, we've got a very bland central midfield. We've completely failed in terms of team building. We are still waiting for pace and a right back 5 years later

[777Kidnappings]

Don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that it hasn't been a disaster at least in the short term. No pace, no right back, left back cover needs a loan (so not capable of covering) KDH more of the dreary same, alcaraz needs to play but cant get in because we bought and replaced him by buying DH. Dibbling sat behind our 2 best players but our most expensive player. Barry bought to score goals cant displace the worst version of Barry

An absolute short term disaster.

[AjaxAndy]

Don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that it hasn't been a disaster at least in the short term. No pace, no right back, left back cover needs a loan (so not capable of covering) KDH more of the dreary same, alcaraz needs to play but cant get in because we bought and replaced him by buying DH. Dibbling sat behind our 2 best players but our most expensive player. Barry bought to score goals cant displace the worst version of Barry

An absolute short term disaster.

Short term it's not great sure but also as I've said numerous times people demanded this and said they'd be patient with young players needing time to develop,.then when we did exactly that those same people threw that out the window after a few poor results.

There's plenty we can change to improve things that Moyes is stubbornly refusing to do, play 4-3-3 to get the best out of KDH, or move Grealish in to the 10 in the current system, or just play Alcaraz there... Put Garner at RB as he's shown he's perfectly capable at full back.

The summer wasn't great but we did buy quality, it's on the manager to find a way to get that quality in the team and working well.

Think people are making too many excuses for Moyes and his failings personally, and I'm not saying that from an anti Moyes stance as I genuinely like him and want him to succeed... But our problems at the moment are more his failings than the balance / makeup of the squad (even if that is also partially an issue).

[777Kidnappings]

Short term it's not great sure but also as I've said numerous times people demanded this and said they'd be patient with young players needing time to develop,.then when we did exactly that those same people threw that out the window after a few poor results.

There's plenty we can change to improve things that Moyes is stubbornly refusing to do, play 4-3-3 to get the best out of KDH, or move Grealish in to the 10 in the current system, or just play Alcaraz there... Put Garner at RB as he's shown he's perfectly capable at full back.

The summer wasn't great but we did buy quality, it's on the manager to find a way to get that quality in the team and working well.

Think people are making too many excuses for Moyes and his failings personally, and I'm not saying that from an anti Moyes stance as I genuinely like him and want him to succeed... But our problems at the moment are more his failings than the balance / makeup of the squad (even if that is also partially an issue).

Bournemouth have bought players who are young and can contribute, Brighton consistently do it.

Yes you need to be patient with young players. Theres ups and downs. Ours though there's been downs and not good enoughs to play

We are moving the goalposts now. No one expected them to contribute so little. No one expected us to make no progress at right back or in terms of pace.

Not 1 of our buys has been any kind of success so far. I think our best 2 buys are probably rohl and alcaraz (decent potential and actual fix a problem we have) and they are both stuck behind the bland KDH. Not sure what the rush for dibbling was. Feel like we overpaid, we competed with no one to sign him and yet we bidded against ourselves for another winger without pace who's contract was running out

For me its 2 fold. Completely the wrong players for anything short term and while there's still plenty of time there's very little evidence so far there's any great long term profit in some of these long term either

[777Kidnappings]

Think everyone would have said we needed pace in wide areas..... we bought in 2 relatively slow wide players. Everyone would have said we needed a right back. Almost got tete early than just didnt bother. Everyone would have said we needed genuine cover at left back we signed someone so far off he'll be on loan and we'll be needing cover at left back

We've pissed away the season already. Lost positions and prize money neglecting big problems and signing potential... im not sure the potential we signed is close to being worth another season of struggle

[AjaxAndy]

Think everyone would have said we needed pace in wide areas..... we bought in 2 relatively slow wide players. Everyone would have said we needed a right back. Almost got tete early than just didnt bother. Everyone would have said we needed genuine cover at left back we signed someone so far off he'll be on loan and we'll be needing cover at left back

We've pissed away the season already. Lost positions and prize money neglecting big problems and signing potential... im not sure the potential we signed is close to being worth another season of struggle

You seem to forget we tried and failed to buy FIVE wingers all who would have added that much needed pace. Five who rejected us. I have posted their names before but it's been a while and my memory is crap so I've forgotten most of them now, but if someone can be arsed I'm sure they could dig them up.

We could have bought someone a bit shit who was fast, Dan James or Traore but what's the point in that when long term it just hampers us?

We didn't buy Dibling because we desperately wanted him, he bought him because we were desperate due to out first choice five wingers all with pace took one look at us and rightly were like 'bollocks to that'.

Manager needs to do more, he's got good players at his disposal but continues to flog a dead horse of hoping a strong defence means we'll have a chance of sneaking a win when there's ways and means of setting us up to be more balanced and have a more creative way of opening up teams that doesn't involve hoping Grealish or Ndaiye can beat three men and get a cross in that Beto magically gets a decent touch on.